| supeg |
I have a bad feeling we are going to miss the playoffs by 1 point.
This trash goalie is a sift. He is going to be our demise.
Hope if they dont make it they get rid of Mact, Huddy, Simpson and even that chump lowe.
This is unacceptable with the cap now in place...
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| dc2696 |
| shut up. Unnacepptable...fuck that, roloson isnb't the best but what the fuck do u want hasek??? He's better than what we had/have(still) so quit ur whining. Sound like a bandwagon jumpers.:thefinger GO OIL GO!!!!!! |
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| supeg |
Hahaha your saying he was better then Morrison?
Hahahahhahaha
Look at the goals he lets in, he is terrible.
Sounds like your are the bandwagon jumper, thinking any player they get is a superstar, im a Oilers fan for life and 10 year season ticket holder, I want them to win.... |
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| GQsmooth |
| too bad we don't have kiprosoff, otherwise we'd be in the exact same positon as the flames. |
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| jdmtalon |
| there wasn't many good goalies available at trade deadline. i think we did the best we could picking up roloson. hes not a superstar but hes not as bad as our other goalies. i think lowe did make some good trades this year picking up pronger, samsonov, spacek, etc. |
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| SupraTTBlitz |
| I ithink he played pretty good but he lets in the easy goals. The problem has to be in coaching, how do you not get your team pumped up for this man, they didn't even try. Plus the powerplay was terrible, we had better chances shorthanded. |
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| boarderfatty |
| I love how Edmonton crushes the moral of all our goalies. Markkanen and Conklin are both world class goalies, but when they have an average game or there is weak defence we automatically rag on the goalies we break their moral beyond repair, then move onto another goalie |
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| Mekanik22 |
Oilers couldn't win/hit the playoffs no matter what goalie they had....
Go Detroit! :beer: |
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| Ravendarat |
| GO RIDERS!!!!!!! Wait, sorry bout that, wrong sport. I think Edmonton has put out a team this year that should have been better than the numbers show. The goltending is definatly a week point, but I think Pronger has also had a lot less impact than what was expected. I think Lowe has done a good job and the team he put on the Ice should have been far better than what it has been. One thing to look forward to is that if Edmonton does make the playoffs, at least they wont be playing Vancouver or Dallas. |
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| supeg |
quote: Originally posted by GQsmooth
too bad we don't have kiprosoff, otherwise we'd be in the exact same positon as the flames.
I think top of the division maybe conference for sure with kip... |
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| supeg |
quote: Originally posted by jdmtalon
there wasn't many good goalies available at trade deadline. i think we did the best we could picking up roloson. hes not a superstar but hes not as bad as our other goalies. i think lowe did make some good trades this year picking up pronger, samsonov, spacek, etc.
True, but the thing is there wasnt many goalies available to trade for trash players or draft pics, if we were to offer good players most anyone is available.
Thing is Lowe didnt wanna mess with the lines, thats good and all but everyone knows that anyteam needs goaltending to do good in the playoff's did lowe think that is was good enough to just make the playoffs and try to get a goalie next year? Yah I think so, but now we might not even make them at all.
The trades were good, but anyone with a brain could have signed pronger... We had so much money to work with it was insane.
And what about his crappy moves like Peca, and not getting Robby this year....
At the very least if we dont make the playoffs, Mact should resign, no more money excuses... Problem with that is then we got huddy or simpson two morons ready to be the next coach.
I say get rid of Mact keep lowe, and get the younger sutter brother as coach. |
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| phat240 |
shremp was to stay down and mature and not be the next comrie. rolli has played how many straight games now???:dunno:
from being a back up to a starter i think he might be a little tired now, and how many 2 on 1 give aways do we have to give up for him to save our asses. this isnt 1984 where we could hang our goalie out to dry cuz we score 5 goals a game. i think the problem is how the fuck do u not score on the blues. a 2-1 loss to the blue is terrible. there like the team in any league u go up agianst and fucking kill them and laught about over beers. i hope they do fire mac t but i think lowe has done really good beng the gm. we got pronger didnt we?
btw well make it and lose to dallas first round. and sign samsonv and rolli next year. |
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| POX |
Rolli did what need to be done.. he gives us a chance... it the rest of the team that been a whole lota suck
p.s.
GO OILERS GO :blue: |
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| silverTEG |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
Hahaha your saying he was better then Morrison?
Hahahahhahaha
Look at the goals he lets in, he is terrible.
just think where the oil would be without Roloson , behind LA?.... and yes he is better than Mo.... who had his chance, no goalie stepped up, 3/4 of the season and not one goalie stepped up, easy to say Mo was good, but every game he seemed to go downhill... he got his wins and GAA win the oil were hot, plain and simple.
he has let in bad goals, yes, but there have been many huge saves too.
easy to scapegoat the goalie, but where did the defensive game go that was there before the olympic break?
i think roloson is the best goalie we've had since CuJo, tommy salo was ok, but that what we are used to, just "ok", its time they played like a team, that helps the goalie look good too.
Changes need to be made behind the bench though.... not upstairs. |
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| tegGSR |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
I say get rid of Mact keep lowe, and get the younger sutter brother as coach.
are you kidding? so he can turn us into the fuckin trap hockey? F THAT. Peca is picking it up and will be gone next year and roloson will pick it up. dont get me wrong i get really pissed when he lets in fuckin softy's but i think he'll pick it up
once we have the cap room from peca i think we''ll be able to resign samsonov as well. |
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| onestepback |
quote: Changes need to be made behind the bench though.... not upstairs.
I agree with this 100%. We have more emphasis on who is going to be coaching than who will be scoring our goals. My vote would be to dump MacT and replace his with someone who has never played on teh Oilers before. |
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| darkjedi |
let's hope we can still make the playoffs.. the oilers seem to be turning over the puck a lot lately.. right when we need to be solid our turn overs have gone through the roof..
all we can do now is win as often as we can and hope vancouver loses..
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
Sounds like your are the bandwagon jumper, thinking any player they get is a superstar, im a Oilers fan for life and 10 year season ticket holder, I want them to win....
Me a bandwagon jumper hahahaha, I bet money on every oilers game...every single one. I'm die hard bitch. I didn't say roloson was a superstar...but I'll be dammed if he isn't better than fucking conklin and morrison. |
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| supeg |
quote: Originally posted by dc2696
Me a bandwagon jumper hahahaha, I bet money on every oilers game...every single one. I'm die hard bitch. I didn't say roloson was a superstar...but I'll be dammed if he isn't better than fucking conklin and morrison.
Well then looks like you have lost a lot of money in the last 10 years :lol: |
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
Well then looks like you have lost a lot of money in the last 10 years :lol:
haha touche my friend touche.:thumbup: |
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| supeg |
Ah well. I just cant stand to see them in this spot.
If they miss the playoffs ill just curl in a ball and cry like a girl. |
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
Ah well. I just cant stand to see them in this spot.
If they miss the playoffs ill just curl in a ball and cry like a girl.
hmm good plan.:cool: |
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| the_fornicator |
horrible fucking coaching on mac T's part. you're playing the fucking 2nd worst team in the league and you play your starting goalie???? especially considering out next 3 games?
put fucking markannen in and give the guy a fucking break.
tool. |
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by the_fornicator
horrible fucking coaching on mac T's part. you're playing the fucking 2nd worst team in the league and you play your starting goalie???? especially considering out next 3 games?
put fucking markannen in and give the guy a fucking break.
tool.
think of it this way; we couldn't afford to lose that game. put them in and u risk conks or jussi blowing it for us and we don't make the post season because of those points (not that it matters now anyway since we lost) |
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| the_fornicator |
quote: Originally posted by dc2696
think of it this way; we couldn't afford to lose that game. put them in and u risk conks or jussi blowing it for us and we don't make the post season because of those points (not that it matters now anyway since we lost)
the way I look at it: it's tired goalie vs hungry goalie. |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote: Originally posted by tegGSR
once we have the cap room from peca i think we''ll be able to resign samsonov as well.
if they miss the playoffs that's gonna put a dent in any plans for signing Sammy I think... |
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| tegGSR |
quote: Originally posted by scooby_dooby
if they miss the playoffs that's gonna put a dent in any plans for signing Sammy I think...
i 100% agree with that, when they traded for him, i knew that re-signing him was going to depend on the oilers distance into the playoffs. After their performance against detroit i am in shock. i can honestly say that was the worst game i have seen all season, there was NO effort. it was like we were playing the wild, the wings just SHUT DOWN the oilers. oilers will make the playoffs but theyll do it the dishonorable way by sneaking in the backdoor.
i love the oilers, but i dont even know what to think of them right now:mad: |
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by tegGSR
i love the oilers, but i dont even know what to think of them right now:mad:
I am in disbelief after yesterdays game...I can't believe they let that one slide....oh well hopefully they'll take out the ducks, GO OIL GO! |
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| scooby_dooby |
| Of all fuckin times in the year to underperform, PLAY LIKE YOU CAN, fuck, loads of talent on that team and they can't get 3 or 4 fuckin goals? |
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| un|BROKEN |
| ROLOSON was a horrible pick up by the oilers! they had young goalies that were good they just didnt get the chance to build upo some confidence. you have to show your goalies that you have trust in them. you cant keep switching them in and out every couple of games, it doesnt give them the chance to gain the confidence to keep playing excellent. its tough to get into a good groove when you dont get to play all the time. |
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| DeathBy240 |
quote: Originally posted by Mekanik22
Oilers couldn't win/hit the playoffs no matter what goalie they had....
Go Detroit! :beer:
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| Buddyworm |
Hemskey is a beautiful, beautiful human being.
B-Wurm :D |
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| darkjedi |
| i guess the guy who started this thread is officially OWNED |
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| mattEG |
quote: Originally posted by darkjedi
i guess the guy who started this thread is officially OWNED
ZING! |
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| dc2696 |
| I <3 Ro-lo-son:thumbup: |
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| supeg |
Haha, Ill be the first to admit it that I was wrong.
Who possesed Roly for the playoffs? Seriously, he is playing better then any goalie in the playoffs right now.
He was average up untill the playoffs, but right when they hit wow .935 save percentage or whatever, what a stud. |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
He was average up untill the playoffs,
You man except for the last 6 games of the season where he posted like a 930? |
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| silverTEG |
its spelt ROLI !
and a nice thread bump! FTMFW :thumbup: |
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| SketchifisT |
lol i love the bandwagon hoppers and people that dont understand hockey. Its nice that the guy who started the thread admitted his mistake.
The thing most people missed was roloson was coming into a new enviornment and has to learn a whole new system and then start to settle down into a team. He had some rough outings but it looked like the oilers were just not really helping.
Roloson has turned it on in the playoffs but so have the oilers they are a very good hustling team and remind me a lot of the Anahiem Mighty Ducks back in 2002 except with a bit more depth then the ducks. All i can say is gluck to the oilers they are a solid team . Hopefully Roloson can keep it up in the next series and the oilers should be fine |
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by SketchifisT
lol i love the bandwagon hoppers and people that dont understand hockey.
Can I get a woot for the bandwagon jumpers?! lol :stickpoke |
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| EK9Hatch |
quote: Originally posted by Buddyworm
Hemskey is a beautiful, beautiful human being.
B-Wurm :D
Thats kinda weird...:limpwrist
As for Roli..yes he sure did come up with some good saves...but did you see some of them? :lol: I think he might be the worse positioned goalie in the league...he is always scrambling and on his back or upside down or something. haha But hey, whatever works eh? :p
~Jamie~ |
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| 3gEdmonton |
quote: Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Thats kinda weird...:limpwrist
As for Roli..yes he sure did come up with some good saves...but did you see some of them? :lol: I think he might be the worse positioned goalie in the league...he is always scrambling and on his back or upside down or something. haha But hey, whatever works eh? :p
~Jamie~
If he was the worst positional goalie then he wouldnt have 2.49 GAA and a .929 Save %. You're talking out of your ass again. A goalie who sucks at playing in net positionally would have let 50% of the outside shots go in. 85% of Detroits shots were from the outside in the series. |
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| Bad Egg |
The team changed to protect Roloson, more than Roloson got better. He was always a good goaltender, but the Oil modified their play to force Detroit outside. Roli told MacT that he was more used to facing shots from the sides in Minny - I think that may have helped click a light on for MacT.
With the Oil going into the press/trap, how many shots did Roli face from the slot, compared to the wing? The saves mentioned where he looks akward were the ones where the puck got past him and he was battling to keep it out. I counted a good 3 or 4 saves in this last series where he did that.
oh, yeah...congrats on that NW division banner, Flames...:lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| scooby_dooby |
| No I think roloson certainly got better, and if you look at the number's it's clear as day. |
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| Bad Egg |
Roloson's play (& save %) has improved constantly since we got him. The last few games of the regular season he was very good. He has even improved in the playoffs.
After agreeing that Roloson is better now than when he arrived, you also have to look at how our style of play has changed. The Oil used to be forechecking fools that almost always outshot the oppostion, but still struggled to win. When the Oilers went to a trapping style they allowed a lot more shots, but a lot less good chances.
Those adjustments, along with Roli's improved play, helped push up the save %. I would give MacT some credit for adjusting the team's style against Detroit. |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote: Originally posted by Bad Egg
Roloson's play (& save %) has improved constantly since we got him. The last few games of the regular season he was very good. He has even improved in the playoffs.
After agreeing that Roloson is better now than when he arrived, you also have to look at how our style of play has changed. The Oil used to be forechecking fools that almost always outshot the oppostion, but still struggled to win. When the Oilers went to a trapping style they allowed a lot more shots, but a lot less good chances.
Those adjustments, along with Roli's improved play, helped push up the save %. I would give MacT some credit for adjusting the team's style against Detroit.
Ya I agree with that. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
I have a bad feeling we are going to miss the playoffs by 1 point.
This trash goalie is a sift. He is going to be our demise.
Hope if they dont make it they get rid of Mact, Huddy, Simpson and even that chump lowe.
This is unacceptable with the cap now in place...
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Bump for Bwahahaha :thumbup: Roloson rules! :D |
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| ozzmodan |
quote: Originally posted by silverTEG
Changes need to be made behind the bench though.... not upstairs.
I agree in this case, but this town should look harder at what the team executive does from time to time. I remember back in the day when Slats could do absolutely no wrong, because he was there during the dynasty era. When nearly anyone probably could have done the same job with that team. As a result there was definately a dark Oiler's era since there was no real direction.
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| Driven |
| Wow the thread maker got fucking told. :owned: |
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| supeg |
Yep told by bandwagon jumpers :rolleyes:
If you read the thread I said I was wrong about him.
When we got him he did play like trash for us for a while and played like trash all year with the Wild. Jesus these bandwagon jumpers that know nothing about hockey make me sick.
You do realise that we almost didnt make the playoffs right? And that Vancouver pretty much gave us the spot....
Like I (along with everyone else that knows anything about hockey has said) the Oilers have a cup contending team with a good tender.
Rolly has been a different goalie in the playoffs, doesnt give up the monster rebounds like before, plays the puck well without giving it up like before, and most importantly, does not let in any soft weak goals.
I suppose all of you loved peca the whole regular season right?
Or did you know that he is a playoff player and was going to be awsome in the playoffs if we made it, like I did. No playoff grinder is worth 4 million though and he was expected to put up some good numbers in reg season which he did not.
The only serious concern I had was that the Oilers were built pretty much just for the playoffs. Which means nothing if we missed it, and thought lowe would make a move for a really good proven goaltender in the regular season even giving away core talent, when he made the move for roly who was awsome in the playoffs, but has a terrible record leading up to the trade.
Just like MacT and co, if we didnt make the playoffs they would be gone, if the trap didnt work against the wings they would be gone, now everyone loves them and forgets about the regular season.
But anyways, on to round 3 and watching the Bandwagon jumpers increase another 10 fold. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
Yep told by bandwagon jumpers :rolleyes:
I seriously love people who say this. Who cares, it's a reason to party and to see some
I've been a fan since the 80's and I supported them when noone else would, the only difference now is, it's not so embarassing :)
By calling everyone bandwagon jumpers, you're jumping on a bandwagon yourself.
So get off the wagon, come on down and have a fuckin' beer mate! :beer:
Go Oilers Go! |
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| Driven |
quote: Originally posted by supeg
Yep told by bandwagon jumpers :rolleyes:
If you read the thread I said I was wrong about him.
When we got him he did play like trash for us for a while and played like trash all year with the Wild. Jesus these bandwagon jumpers that know nothing about hockey make me sick.
You do realise that we almost didnt make the playoffs right? And that Vancouver pretty much gave us the spot....
Like I (along with everyone else that knows anything about hockey has said) the Oilers have a cup contending team with a good tender.
Rolly has been a different goalie in the playoffs, doesnt give up the monster rebounds like before, plays the puck well without giving it up like before, and most importantly, does not let in any soft weak goals.
I suppose all of you loved peca the whole regular season right?
Or did you know that he is a playoff player and was going to be awsome in the playoffs if we made it, like I did. No playoff grinder is worth 4 million though and he was expected to put up some good numbers in reg season which he did not.
The only serious concern I had was that the Oilers were built pretty much just for the playoffs. Which means nothing if we missed it, and thought lowe would make a move for a really good proven goaltender in the regular season even giving away core talent, when he made the move for roly who was awsome in the playoffs, but has a terrible record leading up to the trade.
Just like MacT and co, if we didnt make the playoffs they would be gone, if the trap didnt work against the wings they would be gone, now everyone loves them and forgets about the regular season.
But anyways, on to round 3 and watching the Bandwagon jumpers increase another 10 fold.
I've been watching hockey since 94 when vancouver lost to the rangers in the final. So yes i know Edmonton almost didn't make the playoffs... and vancouver did hand it to them pretty much by losing most of their games. Regardless.. let's see how good the oilers do against the ducks.. they did sweep colorado in 4. |
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