| Honda_Civic_25 |
| Hey guys I always liked turbo cars, well for the fact that they are boosted lol I ended up not buying one. But now I have decided to buy one at the end on summer, but the problem is I dont have that much money mabye like 5000 max. Now with only 5 grand I was thinking of getting a 1990-1991 Talon Tsi. Do you think I could get a talon tsi for 5 grand? Also what are some other turbo cars in my price range, thanks guys. |
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| Charles_00civic |
| JDM 300zx... Toyota soarer... even a gt-s T |
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| Thegnome |
What did you buy for starters?
I only ask because my car is an NA as well, but I will be turbo charging it sometime durring the summer.
This will cost maybe 2000$ give or take if I dont completely skimp out on parts. |
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| fugumerkur |
Or a merkur! 1500 easy gets you one, do some paint work and engine and you will still have 3000 left for mods!!
and its rear wheel drive, heated seats turbo, takes alot of Fox body mustang parts.! |
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| midnite |
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Originally posted by Charles_00civic
JDM 300zx... Toyota soarer... even a gt-s T
you may have to spend a bit over 5000 to get one of these, unless it's a lower condition one. |
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| EK9Hatch |
| Buy a cheap EF or EG Civic and Turbo that! :p A talon would probably be a good choice. |
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| mikeylikesit |
+1 for the merkur! :bowdown: haha
maybe look at an early 90's mazda mx6 gt..
but a talon wouldnt be a bad choice.. lots of aftermarket support and theres quite a few around so it shouldnt be too hard to get parts for. |
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| fugumerkur |
| "BUMP" cough cough, ahem, merkur xr4ti just look em up on cardomain! even good for the winters, rallycross, autocross, drag racing, streetracing, flying, use as a boat and you can rice it your hearts content. sorry, got excited. |
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| Honda_Civic_25 |
| well i bought a 1995 Cavalier Z24 and I dont see a point in turboing it, so i was thinking selling it and starting over, how hard is it to turbo a car anyhow, like could i do it my self with some help and how much would it cost, only 2000? |
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| fugumerkur |
| 1) There will not be any posts promoting street racing and/or any related topics. |
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| fugumerkur |
ITs not as easy as you think, you have to think of fuel and air management, gaskets, cooling, running oil lines to it, boost pressure relative to your air capacities in your manifolds and so on, you can't just slap a turbo on a car, well you can, but will it last a pass down the strip!
buy a turbo'd car already done!
(Hint, rx-7's will take a 2.3 L ford turbo motor, and you can get 300 horse out of the bottom end without swapping pistons, crank or cam) |
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| boarderfatty |
| talons are alway fun car, as long as they are maintained properly they can be great platforms to build from and make a fast car for the street or track |
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| Honda_Civic_25 |
| I am thinking about buying that talon in the Cars for sale forum the one with rebuilt engine and tranny jsut needs to be put in, its non turbo, but I am still thinking about it, but how hard is it to put a tranny and engine in? |
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| boarderfatty |
| depends, on my 2nd gen talon turbo there is no room to wiggle, but the non turb 420a engine is comlpletely different so i dont know, im guessing its still no going to be very easy though, unless you have experience at it |
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| Honda_Civic_25 |
| eff lol I was hopeing for a "Oh it is a snap to do" yea i have no experience at it but I was thinking this could be a learning experience. lol:dunno: |
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| boarderfatty |
| as long as ou have a hoist, a couple experienced freinds, and double check everything is connected it would be a good experience, just make sure you have time to do it properly, its gonna take more than a couple hours to do it right |
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| Honda_Civic_25 |
| well if I did decided to do it, I would probally spend a week or so, working on it for hours at end everynight. How long do engine installs take? |
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| boarderfatty |
| If you are doing it with a couple experienced friends,and all the wiring is properly organized so all you have to do is make connections attack hoses and install axels you can probably do it in 30-40 hours |
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| Wolfdio |
I'd love to say get a merkur and that would be my vote if you can find one (cheap rwd turbo).
otherwise late '80s early '90s mazdas had turbos for 323s, 626s, mx6's and you can pick them up for cheap. |
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| GT34 |
89-92 probes and early mx6's. If you don't have the money to turbo a NA car properly, I would get something already turbo'd. A lot of the early 90's late 80's cars had them. Shelby daytona, tsi's, and you can get them for under 5g's. Plus there's already lots of people that have modded their turbos and have tips and can help you out to get more power outta them.
Check this out. http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1701192566
It doesn't take much to get the f2t's close to 300ftq, and the stock drivetrain can take it too. Just be ready to deal with the torque steer. |
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| Honda_Civic_25 |
| well i have found some cars cars that have caught my eye, first is 1985 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 Turbo, what do you guys think about that kind of car? second is a '85 AE86 Coupe w/ Red-Top 4AGE Turbo, what anout this car? now i dont like the fact that these cars are 1985's. I think I would really like a 1990-1991 eagle talon tsi fwd or awd, but then an 89 ford probe gt would also be nice, oh man i dont know which car to pick. |
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| REFLUX |
You would be a fool to rush into purchasing a turbocharged car.
It is better to save a bit more and buy a near mint condition boosted vehicle than to rush your purchase and buy something that looks "ok" but in the long run, will cost you more due to repairs and much needed maintenance.
Go ahead and ask bigmack000 on this forum, he bought a 1g talon with loads of mods and recent maintenance, it was a good price but just had a minor coolant leak.
Now it turns out to be something major and the car he just bought is just sitting there doing nothing.
I repeat:
Save up some more and buy a REALLY good condition car. You will save yourself a lot of headache, hassle, and wasted money in the long run.
Hopefully you aren't like every other person on this forum that can't keep his turbo-boner in check who goes out and buys the first good looking fast car they can wave a cheque at. |
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| chico_kj_23 |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
You would be a fool to rush into purchasing a turbocharged car.
It is better to save a bit more and buy a near mint condition boosted vehicle than to rush your purchase and buy something that looks "ok" but in the long run, will cost you more due to repairs and much needed maintenance.
Go ahead and ask bigmack000 on this forum, he bought a 1g talon with loads of mods and recent maintenance, it was a good price but just had a minor coolant leak.
Now it turns out to be something major and the car he just bought is just sitting there doing nothing.
I repeat:
Save up some more and buy a REALLY good condition car. You will save yourself a lot of headache, hassle, and wasted money in the long run.
Hopefully you aren't like every other person on this forum that can't keep his turbo-boner in check who goes out and buys the first good looking fast car they can wave a cheque at.
+1
I had a similar experience with my talon, got it for a good price but ended up dumping a large ammount of cash at it to keep it running.
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| fugumerkur |
| I agree with Reflux, if you are not really into how the engines work and what maintenance would be straight up for a turbo car, you could really hurt yourself in the end, or even straight up in the beginning! Do as posted and put some money away and get a great condition turbo car. Look for maintenance recently done, new or recently rebuilt turbo (you don't need one that would blow up on you) Tranny, bearings, brakes, leaks and so on, really get under any car you look at and see everything even things you wouldn't think about , just spend an hour looking at any car you get, grill the owner get receipts and if anything is wrong that you know you can fix, make em sell it for less, but the less wrong with a car that you buy now means easier sailing later.. Merkurs are not for the faint of heart though, then again alot of the older cars arn't either! Make your choices well! |
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| superspeed |
| if you even wana consider a tt z you better have an extra 2-3g on the side. Maintaince is not cheap on a z, open the hood of a z32 and you will see why =) |
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| GT34 |
| Yeah for sure, make sure you do your homework first. But then again, it all really depends on your budget. You can have something cheap and fast, but not reliable. Or drive something reliable and cheap, but not fast. So it's really up to you which route you wanna go and how much of a chance you're gonna take. |
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| Wolfdio |
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Originally posted by GT34
Yeah for sure, make sure you do your homework first. But then again, it all really depends on your budget. You can have something cheap and fast, but not reliable. Or drive something reliable and cheap, but not fast. So it's really up to you which route you wanna go and how much of a chance you're gonna take.
could also have something reliable and fast, but it wont be cheap |
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| Fish_e_o |
get a car that hasn't been bagged.. soo basically a new car... calibers srt-4 aren't that much, they look like ass though...
you could get a newer neon srt-4 that hasn't been bagged you can usaully tell...
i wouldn't get a talon tsi the peole who have them drive the crap out of them and they're basically all crap...
eclipses are generally bagged too and are slow/heavy...
honestly i would say the best buy out there today is an rsx type s
hot cars too :dunno: *edit* but not turbo....
so basically no turbo cars that will do you any good are in your price range including matenance.... |
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| crazy240sx |
if you've got deep pockets to keep talons maintained, they're great, all my buddies drive these cars, one bought a '92 off of a 40 year old man, original owner, car was mint and still runs wicked, another bought a '92 as well from a late 20's guy and its been nothing but problem after problem, so we just took EVERYTHING apart and completely rebuilt it from scratch, motorwise :thumbup:
but.....if you get a good running one in good condition, very good platforms to work from, just don't rush it because it looks cool, look around, engines cost a lot in those cars
:beer:
g'luck with your buy |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Turbo2 RX7's are exceptionally cheap on the Japanese market and they are reliable. I know that Chad hasn't had a single problem with his and its fairly modified as well as being swapped from automatic to 5 speed (we did the swap). I personally think they are a steal for how well they perform at the price they go for. |
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| Honda_Civic_25 |
well if I am going to do 1 of 4 options here are the options I have:
1. Buy a 1992 Eagle Talon TSI
- Has a JDM engine with 95,XXX on it
- 180,XXX - 190,XXX on body
- new head gasket
- New balance shafts
- Some other new little parts
- New clutch
- New head gasket
- New timing Belt
- New intake valves, keepers, springs, and lower spring shims
- New passenger side wheel bearing and CV shaft
- New Goodyear eagle ultra grip ice tires
- New (used) ECU
- New (used) injectors
2. Buy a 1988 Celica Alltrac
- JDM ST185 3sgte with 80,000kms
- new starter
- new alternator
- new clutch: exeddy
- new battery
- new timing belt
- new water pump
- new ngk iridium spark plugs
- new ignition wires
- new axel- tranny seals
- new cone filter for the short ram intake
3. Buy a 1990 Mazda RX-7 GXL
- 80% Life left on the brake pads (Hawk HPS series)
- New Master Cylinder Spring of 05
- AAS (Auto Adjusting Susp) To this day not 100% sure if it still works or not, but switching between sport and stock i seem to notice a little stiffer susp around corners.
- Power Sunroof and windows.
- Interior i would rate 9/10. No stains or rips anywhere.. All black cloth which is pretty rare on any FC RX-7.
- New engine put in by RX-7 Specialties around ~40,000KM's ago. Runs strong, never floods, no hesitation, etc...
- Car is straight piped and has 2 older Borla Mufflers with tips.
4. Keep my Cavalier |
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| REFLUX |
I'd get the Toyota IF it is in good condition.
Get it inspected and also see if there are any AllTrac enthusiasts on this forum that can come w/ you to check it out.
Those models are rust prone too right? |
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| Fish_e_o |
quote:
Originally posted by Honda_Civic_25
well if I am going to do 1 of 4 options here are the options I have:
1. Buy a 1992 Eagle Talon TSI
- Has a JDM engine with 95,XXX on it
- 180,XXX - 190,XXX on body
- new head gasket
- New balance shafts
- Some other new little parts
- New clutch
- New head gasket
- New timing Belt
- New intake valves, keepers, springs, and lower spring shims
- New passenger side wheel bearing and CV shaft
- New Goodyear eagle ultra grip ice tires
- New (used) ECU
- New (used) injectors
2. Buy a 1988 Celica Alltrac
- JDM ST185 3sgte with 80,000kms
- new starter
- new alternator
- new clutch: exeddy
- new battery
- new timing belt
- new water pump
- new ngk iridium spark plugs
- new ignition wires
- new axel- tranny seals
- new cone filter for the short ram intake
3. Buy a 1990 Mazda RX-7 GXL
- 80% Life left on the brake pads (Hawk HPS series)
- New Master Cylinder Spring of 05
- AAS (Auto Adjusting Susp) To this day not 100% sure if it still works or not, but switching between sport and stock i seem to notice a little stiffer susp around corners.
- Power Sunroof and windows.
- Interior i would rate 9/10. No stains or rips anywhere.. All black cloth which is pretty rare on any FC RX-7.
- New engine put in by RX-7 Specialties around ~40,000KM's ago. Runs strong, never floods, no hesitation, etc...
- Car is straight piped and has 2 older Borla Mufflers with tips.
4. Keep my Cavalier
talon is beat to hell...
celica is old and falling apart i would assume...(if not it might be good)
rx-7 will break down and unless you can work on it isn't the car for you...
and the cavalier... i hate to say it but it looks like the best option. if it's running well and looking decent, stick with it for a few more years, find out what you want to buy and save for it so you can get it then make it your own (aka fast) or there's some chick who has a green supercharged cavalier thats pretty quick... (supercargers sound cooler than a turbo , or the ones i've heard...) |
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| Wolfdio |
| I'd go with option 3 :thumbup: |
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| boarderfatty |
| Option 3 would seem like it could be the most fun of the 4 options. The only thing that I would have against it would be the fact I know nothing about rotary engines and it can be hard to find a shop in town that does work properly without leaving you pennyless once they are done |
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| REFLUX |
If you want a turbo car, do NOT bother buying an normally aspirated one and boosting it.
ESPECIALLY an RX-7.
Talk to Z3r0 on this forum about it, he boosted his NA RX-7 and hasn't driven it in the past 3 years. |
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