| Engine Swap - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| REFLUX |
does anyone have/know people who have done engine swaps?
cuz i would like to hear from people who have experiences in swapping engines or done any major engine work
eg. the stuff to look out for, hardships, tips etc
thnx |
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| Luong98 |
| What do you need help in? I know ppl who has and are doing engine swaps. |
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| REFLUX |
it's not that i need help
one of my future goals is to do an engine swap (either a SR20DET into 240sx or B18C5 into Civic Hatch)
but i'd just like to hear from the people who have experience in it
like...where did they get the engine, where the swap is done, any common swapping problems to look out for...stuff like that |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
| becareful of the hidden cost of engine swaps. If you choose to go with a readily available engine then it won;t be too bad but imagine ordering in an SR20DET for your car and then if something goes wrong. What are you gonna do then? Have fun ordering parts from Japan. Simple things like thermostats and gaskets are gonna be fun to replace. I was orignally gonna drop an SR20 into my 200 but I decided against it because of those factors. |
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| Talented |
| Ya, also there are many "after" costs you have to look at also.. Like upgrading your clutch to handle the faster engine etc.. |
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| REFLUX |
oh i c
well i was readin it somewhere that if ur gonna swap engines, have around 5g extra for stuff that u mite have overlooked
would that be a good buffer? |
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| EG6 SiRII |
| i think it really depends what mods you've done to your car before the swap, can those parts handle or perform well with the new engine??<p>make a goal for yourself as in how far you'd want to go with this little project.<p>i got a swap in my 93 Civic HB last year, i'm still in the process of upgrading all my parts. |
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| REFLUX |
oh ok
well this is wat i have in mind for the project (cuz it's common...sorta)
a 5th or 6th gen civic hatchback, with a swapped in GSR or Type R engine (b18c1/c5)
i'm thinkin i'd need in terms of extra mods:
-new clutch
-exhaust
-maybe suspension
i know this is like..bare bones kind of shit but i'm assuming that gear ratios & shit r done along w/ tach adjustment etc etc |
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| Luong98 |
| You have to make sure that your car can handle that extra power. Your stock car was made to handle stock power. Lots of ppl ignore the fact that you have to upgrade your suspension and braking power. There's no use to have all that power and not being able to control it. |
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| REFLUX |
speakin of braking
wen u upgrade ur brakes
u gotta do brake alignment correct?
to make sure that one brake doesn't stop before the other
so what places would do that?
oh & also about stock cars handling stock power
how bout the chasis or a stock 5th/6th gen civic, w/ the extra power would anything need 2 b done there?
strut bars, anti-roll.... |
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| CRXguy |
| Any shops in Edmonton that are capable of doing a swap? I can prolly get an engine for a good price, it's just finding the RIGHT person to do it.<p>I suggest working on the suspension first. Springs, shocks, front/rear strut bars, etc. What's the point of having all that power, and not being able to use it properly.<p>When you swap, remember to change timing belt, water pump and such. Have all your parts ready so that it can be installed, so that you don't have to rip apart the engine after. Save alot of money. |
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| MugenBoy |
I don't recommend a GSR/Type R engine swap into a Civ.
Where I got my swap the previous car did one and he paid around 8g just for labor and additional parts on top of the purchase of the engine. But yeah as previously mentioned when u get a swap ther's a lot of shit u have to get too. Once u swap u can't stop coz there'll be constant need to upgrade/maintain the potential. Right now, i got the minimum requirements ... i got lots more to build on ... but gotta wait for the inflows<p>Just look around for a shop ... I got mine at TopTech and I got all my parts b4 bringing my car in ... trust me there's a crap load of parts u need especially if u have a gen4 like mine...<p>haha, i got no suspension or brake upgrades. I gonna be a unstable bomb on the street now...hahha |
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| CRXguy |
| Definately! But it is possible to find a GOOD engine for a GOOD price. Just do a compression test before you buy. I'll be buying an engine through a friend of a friend, so I think I'll be safe. |
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| seven |
| have you guys considered doing work to your stock motor (porting your stock head and getting a custom cam, etc.) instead of an engine swap?<p>just curious about what other ways you can go to make power. _I bet the engine work would cost a lot less. _anyone looked into that? |
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| Luong98 |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from seven on 2:11 pm on Aug. 14, 2001
have you guys considered doing work to your stock motor (porting your stock head and getting a custom cam, etc.) instead of an engine swap?<p>just curious about what other ways you can go to make power. _I bet the engine work would cost a lot less. _anyone looked into that?[/b][/quote]<p>I'm not too familar with 4th and 5th gen Civic/CRX, but I know enough that to do head work on a stock Si engine is not worth it. It's way too under power to justify that amount of money. |
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| CRXguy |
| I could slap on a Jackson Racing supercharger for about 񙇈....and get maybe close to 160hp at the crank. But I'd rather do a swap and have 160hp to start off with. |
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| Luong98 |
| I really want to do a S13 SR20DET swap. |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from Luong98 on 3:46 pm on Aug. 14, 2001
I really want to do a S13 SR20DET swap. [/b][/quote]<p>There's a guy in Calgary with a 97 or 98 240SX, and he's got that swap!!! It's fucking sweet.....that Blow off valve!!! OH MY!!! |
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| GirlRacer P1 |
That S13 SR20DET swap will be done. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.asianet.ca/images/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
I think I am gong to go for that after all the convincing. |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from GirlRacer P1 on 3:59 pm on Aug. 14, 2001
That S13 SR20DET swap will be done. _<!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.asianet.ca/images/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
I think I am gong to go for that after all the convincing.[/b][/quote]<p>I'll buy the Del Sol!!<!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.asianet.ca/images/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> |
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| GirlRacer P1 |
| Go ahead. I think there are some for sale in Calgary. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.asianet.ca/images/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> |
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| REFLUX |
a SR20DET swap is one thing i would LOVE to see
####..anyone know of some SR20DET's in E-town? |
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| TurboBlueNX |
| No DET's that I know of, The calgary 240's don't have DET's eiher (ie. the black one that was for sale with GTR brakes) he has a Turbo'd KA motor in it.<p>If there was, I would've snapped it up... |
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| REFLUX |
####...not a single one?
shiet |
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| CRXguy |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from TurboBlueNX on 11:14 am on Aug. 15, 2001
No DET's that I know of, The calgary 240's don't have DET's eiher (ie. the black one that was for sale with GTR brakes) he has a Turbo'd KA motor in it.<p>If there was, I would've snapped it up...
[/b][/quote]<p>Uhhhhhhhh.....I know that black one still has the 2.4 in it, but turbo'd. But the white one with Sask. plates has the SR20DET. |
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| Luong98 |
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quote: from TurboBlueNX on 11:14 am on Aug. 15, 2001
No DET's that I know of, The calgary 240's don't have DET's eiher (ie. the black one that was for sale with GTR brakes) he has a Turbo'd KA motor in it.<p>If there was, I would've snapped it up...
[/b][/quote]<p>There is actually 2 in Calgary that is DET and one in Edmonton. I talked to the guy from Edmonton last month at the autocross. <p>That black one that you are referring to is a KA turbocharged. Hey, it's for sale if anyone is interested. ฮk. |
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| CRXguy |
| Some guy by my friend's house is gonna buy the black 240. I personally wouldn't buy it. Why buy someone else's work? |
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| darkman |
| I plan to do an engine swap for my car too sometime. What I'm worried about too is if it is going to last or even work. Then you got the huge cost of labour. Anyone know how much jsut the labour is for something like that? |
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| CRXguy |
| On average, it should be around 񘈨. |
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| Unsure |
| I know of at least one DET in the city. The guy spend a mad amount of cash on it. His Wife drives it more than he does.. hahaha<p>As for Brake alignments... <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.asianet.ca/images/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> What you are looking for is a proportioning valve. If you get a Honda B series swap, the stock brakes will be ok if you get some rotors/aggressive pads. If you want bigger brakes (ie, TypeR) you might want to consider getting the calipers, Master cylinder and Proportioning valve so you can achieve the same brake feel as the type R. If you go with aftermarket (like Baer or willwood ) you may need an adj prop valve. I know of a guy with 4 pot calipers that didn't switch prop valves and he has no problems with them... and yes he drives his car hard. |
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| mrprecidia |
| wow it's kind of cool reading a post that is 12 years in the future |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by mrprecidia@Dec 27 2002, 06:09 PM
wow it's kind of cool reading a post that is 12 years in the future
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| redbaron303 |
| SRBURG13's car has a turbo SR20 in it, with bov and the works... from what I understand :) |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Oh yeah, it works, the smile on his face alone will tell you all...
I really want to start another project car... I know exactly what I'd do... <ahem><cough>RB26DETT in a 240SX<cough><cough> |
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| dogstar |
for my two cents, ill post the reference material ive been studying...
http://www.celicasupra.com/7mgte/ -excellent write up, with a great amount of info on other concerns (braking, suspension, small items)
http://www.supras.com/~riemer/gte/reg.html -second gen supra god and his car.
both these guys are paranoid, but for good reason.
theres literally thousands of pages about honda engine swaps, and sport compact car mag has done a few with walkthroughs.
google for info and youll be amazed at how much there is |
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| mrprecidia |
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Originally posted by REFLUX@Dec 28 2002, 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by mrprecidia@Dec 27 2002, 06:09 PM
wow it's kind of cool reading a post that is 12 years in the future
???
if you look at your post above cflude it says you posted in 2014 |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| LOCK THIS THREAD AND DELETE IT!!!!!!!!!! it's ALWAYS here when I logon and many other members have complained about it... it's getting to be quite :gay: to go to page 2 hoping to see some new threads and you see this one which hasn't even been friggin posted in since Jan 14.. :angry: |
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| mrprecidia |
| it won't be deleted untill 2014 |
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| 2000silverimpreza |
sr20det/240 swap gets pretty costly if you factor in labour, engine/drivetrain, and car itself. if i had the money i think i'd do this swap. i know there is atleast 4 or 5 240's with the swap here in calgary.
friend of mine drives this one
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| import_3000 |
i got an idea to shake things up, put a sr20det in a civic!!
:lol: |
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| impulser |
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Originally posted by REFLUX@Aug 11 2001, 11:02 PM
does anyone have/know people who have done engine swaps?
cuz i would like to hear from people who have experiences in swapping engines or done any major engine work
eg. the stuff to look out for, hardships, tips etc
thnx
There is this little thing called a "SEARCH" button. Try using it! :asshole: :blast: :kill: |
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| '02SiR |
| k i think this post is going to far, someone delete it |
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| mrprecidia |
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Originally posted by '02SiR@Apr 27 2003, 02:08 AM
k i think this post is going to far, someone delete it
whats wrong with it ;) |
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| THEONE |
| Its the same post as last week, and the week before that, and the week before that! :wtf: |
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| 1mns13 |
| SR20DET in a civic has already been done. It is a cheap swap for a 240SX. Many places to buy from. Trust the customers of the sellers. |
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| djshortys |
umm.....this isnt a new post? :blink:
andy! |
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| ereid |
| i am currently working on a sr20 into my s14 240. i am using an s13 engine so the wiring needs a little bit of work. I am just about done and i haven't had any problems yet. go with the 240 you can't beat rwd!!! |
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| Spike7ss |
| I want to swap a 454 into my truck , its a bolt and plug in :bigthumbup: |
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| Nightstalker |
quote:
Originally posted by MugenBoy
I don't recommend a GSR/Type R engine swap into a Civ.
Where I got my swap the previous car did one and he paid around 8g just for labor and additional parts on top of the purchase of the engine. _But yeah as previously mentioned when u get a swap ther's a lot of shit u have to get too. _Once u swap u can't stop coz there'll be constant need to upgrade/maintain the potential. _Right now, i got the minimum requirements ... i got lots more to build on ... but gotta wait for the inflows<p>Just look around for a shop ... I got mine at TopTech and I got all my parts b4 bringing my car in ... trust me there's a crap load of parts u need especially if u have a gen4 like mine...<p>haha, i got no suspension or brake upgrades. _I gonna be a unstable bomb on the street now...hahha
You got ripped off.. bigtime |
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| driving a lemon |
quote:
Originally posted by Nightstalker
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Originally posted by MugenBoy
I don't recommend a GSR/Type R engine swap into a Civ.
Where I got my swap the previous car did one and he paid around 8g just for labor and additional parts on top of the purchase of the engine. But yeah as previously mentioned when u get a swap ther's a lot of shit u have to get too. Once u swap u can't stop coz there'll be constant need to upgrade/maintain the potential. Right now, i got the minimum requirements ... i got lots more to build on ... but gotta wait for the inflows<p>Just look around for a shop ... I got mine at TopTech and I got all my parts b4 bringing my car in ... trust me there's a crap load of parts u need especially if u have a gen4 like mine...<p>haha, i got no suspension or brake upgrades. I gonna be a unstable bomb on the street now...hahha
You got ripped off.. bigtime
:) :) |
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| Spike7ss |
| :angry: Its not cool to be ripped off and screwed around with |
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