| 180sxforthewin |
| School is coming to an end soon and I will start making money again. I am considering turboing my accord exr. Just wondering details like price, difficulty, etc. I know Chu77 had done it to his. Is it really worth it? |
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| chu77 |
Well.....I didn't install it cuz I sold the kit, planning on selling the accord.
Price- I can make a kit for about 1k including tuning cost etc
Install- Not hard, I can get you a diy with pics. It's about a weekend worth of work.
Worth it?
Yes, stock=120 whp, turbo= 200-220 whp. Faster than a h22 and saves more gas than stock.
Remember h22= 175 whp
If you want me to make a kit for you let me know, or I'll give you some pointers.
GOOD LUCK!!:beer:
-Henry
EDIT: By the way, make sure your accord's engine is ready for turbo, fix any small probelms etc. |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by chu77
Yes, stock=120 whp, turbo= 200-220 whp. Faster than a h22 and saves more gas than stock.
Remember h22= 175 whp
ever seen an H22 on 7PSI? its not really fair to compare a highly modified engine to a stock one. you would have been better off saying you pretty much double the whp by going turbo |
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| 180sxforthewin |
saves more gas than stock??
Really?
I will get into contact with you during the summer then about setting up a kit. Thanks for the help. |
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| chu77 |
quote: Originally posted by newaccorddriver
ever seen an H22 on 7PSI? its not really fair to compare a highly modified engine to a stock one. you would have been better off saying you pretty much double the whp by going turbo
For a h22 to get on 7 psi= $3000 for the swap, $3000 for turbo and to make the engine boostable, meaning interals, rods, etc.
Overall, I like to compare the prices.
quote: Originally posted by 180sxforthewin
saves more gas than stock??
Really?
I will get into contact with you during the summer then about setting up a kit. Thanks for the help.
Yes, because of the chipped ecu that I use, it tunes the car better than stock. THUS, if you STAY OUT OF boost, it will give you better mpg. However if you keep getting into boost 24/7 then you'll get maybe 10 mpg. |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by chu77
For a h22 to get on 7 psi= $3000 for the swap, $3000 for turbo and to make the engine boostable, meaning interals, rods, etc.
who ever said anything about the swap? you compared an F22 to H22 without saying what car it was in.
also saying $3000 to turbo an H22 is kinda high and not really accurate. your junkyard setup could work for an H22 as well. just gotta use piggyback fuel controllers instead of stand alone. and there you have it, still costing the same as the F22 setup would have. maybe a bit more though considering you cant use a DSM manifold, but H22 manifolds arent that expensive anyways. there are people that are currently running 7psi without any internal mods, so you save a bunch of money there as well. |
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| chu77 |
quote: Originally posted by newaccorddriver
who ever said anything about the swap? you compared an F22 to H22 without saying what car it was in.
also saying $3000 to turbo an H22 is kinda high and not really accurate. your junkyard setup could work for an H22 as well. just gotta use piggyback fuel controllers instead of stand alone. and there you have it, still costing the same as the F22 setup would have. maybe a bit more though considering you cant use a DSM manifold, but H22 manifolds arent that expensive anyways. there are people that are currently running 7psi without any internal mods, so you save a bunch of money there as well.
He has an accord now, how will he get a h22a without swaping the engine in.???:confused:
Remember that f22 and h23 engines are better for boost because of the low compression. Without any internal mods and 7 psi on a h22 = another dead h22.
H22 manifold would cost about $300
Sure you can be a cheap ass and save money but it will cost you in the long run.
BTW: When you buy the turbo check the shaft, seals (oil leaks) and cond etc. I paid $200 for my 14b that I sold.
Heres a quick list
Turbo = $100-300
Manifold, O2 housing = $100
FMIC= $200
ECU, chipped with uberdata= $200
Injectors= $80-100
Piping system= $100
Oil line kit= $100
Dyno time= $100-300 |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by chu77
Without any internal mods and 7 psi on a h22 = another dead h22.
my friends planning on boosting his H22 by the end of summer at 7PSI. theres many people who did that without internal mods. going any higher your taking a risk, but 7PSI is nothing. even my A20 can handle 12PSI easily without internals |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by chu77
He has an accord now, how will he get a h22a without swaping the engine in.???:confused:
read my first line again and tell me you dont get it. you simply compared engines rather then cars with specific engines. either way, he can boost an F22 easily with some pretty decent power gains. he would be much better off getting an H23 and boosting that instead H22 isnt worth the work unless he actually wants to run low amounts of boost. |
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| Praylewd powr |
aaarrrgghh.....why do people say "it can handle 7psi on a stock motor", when they should say......it can handle xxxwhp on a stock motor.
And remember, the H22 needs to be sleeved if rebuilt, so add 1k for that.
But you can run 300whp on a stock healthy H22, but for how long? Eventually, the ringlands will go or the frm liners will start to crack. |
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| dc2696 |
quote: Originally posted by Praylewd powr
aaarrrgghh.....why do people say "it can handle 7psi on a stock motor", when they should say......it can handle xxxwhp on a stock motor.
You could argue why ppl say x.xxpsi. 10psi on a T25 isn't as much as 10psi on a T78:p |
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| Praylewd powr |
that is exactly my point!
aaarrrrgggghhhhh
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| chu77 |
quote: Originally posted by newaccorddriver
read my first line again and tell me you dont get it. you simply compared engines rather then cars with specific engines. either way, he can boost an F22 easily with some pretty decent power gains. he would be much better off getting an H23 and boosting that instead H22 isnt worth the work unless he actually wants to run low amounts of boost.
Well, I was comparing the type of engine he can get with the amount of $$ he is willing to put in.
If you want to compare stock engines thats easy: put a V12 into a honda.
Hence I'm just saying what I think is the best bang for the buck.
H23- yes I would boost that instead, thats why I got a prelude.:cool: |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by chu77
If you want to compare stock engines thats easy: put a V12 into a honda.
that just became my new signature |
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| chu77 |
quote: Originally posted by newaccorddriver
that just became my new signature
Is that a good thing or a bad thing??:drama: |
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| WeDgE |
| There was someone on H-T.com with a 560+whp boosted H22...stock internals. Was still going strong last time I checked (~8 months ago). It's all in the tune. |
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| 180sxforthewin |
| With mine I would have to overhaul the engine it has almost 300000 kms on it. |
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