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aznpryde87
hey just wondering about the tint limit on all the windows, like what it the legal limit. also for photo radar do you have to be going 10 ovre the postd limit for it to catch you? and lastly are aftermarket HIDs legal like on a car that HID it not offered on by the manufacturer?

SilverNeonRacer
Ok,
Any side window behind the driver, to rear door windows or rear triangle windows can be painted black as far as the law is concerend.

your rear winshield, if you have 2 side mirrors on each of the doors, it can be painted black too(aka tinted really friggin dark).
If you only have 1 side mirror and the rear view hanging off your front window you cannot tint the rear window.

Front door windows and windshield(any windows forward of the driver), cannot be tinted at all nor have any sort of film on them. This applies to the front triangle windows older truck have too...

aznpryde87
thanks, but i thought that the front windows were allowed to have a ccertain limit and im just not sure how much. is that true?

SilverNeonRacer
not here... in Onterio 35% on the front sides is legal, here it's 100%(meaning 100% of the light gets through)

SilverNeonRacer
quote:

Window glazing

69(1) A person shall not install, replace or cover the window glazing in a windshield or in a left or right side window of a motor vehicle that is beside or forward of the driver with a transparent, translucent or opaque material.

(2) A person shall not install, replace or cover the rear window glazing in a motor vehicle with a transparent, translucent or opaque material unless the motor vehicle has outside rear view mirrors on both the left and right that comply with section 72(2).

(3) A person shall not install, replace or cover the window glazing in a motor vehicle with a material that reflects the headlamps of approaching vehicles into the eyes of the driver of another vehicle.

(4) A person shall not install, replace or cover the window glazing in a motor vehicle with a material that reflects sunlight into the eyes of the driver of another vehicle.

(5) A person may replace the window glazing installed by the manufacturer of a motor vehicle with the same type of glazing.

(6) A person may apply clear untinted frost shields to a window of a motor vehicle only if they do not impair the view through the window by discolouring, scratching or damaging the glazing.

(7) A person may apply stickers to the window of a motor vehicle only if they do not limit the driver’s field of vision or otherwise impair the safe operation of the motor vehicle.

Glazing standards

70(1) For the purposes of this section, “American National Standard” means the standard adopted under subsection (2).

(2) The American National Standard for Safety Glazing Materials for Glazing Motor Vehicles and Motor Vehicle Equipment Operation on Land Highways ‑ Safety Standard ANSI/SAE Z26.1 is adopted and applies to glazing installed in the windshield or other window of a motor vehicle.

(3) The glazing referred to in subsection (2) must be appropriate to the make and model of the motor vehicle.

(4) A person shall not keep or use window glazing for motor vehicles unless the glazing complies with the specifications and standards set out in the American National Standard.

(5) A windshield must be made of laminated safety glass.

(6) A windshield must not be made of heat treated safety glass.

(7) A window in a motor vehicle, other than a windshield, may be made of laminated safety glass or heat treated safety glass.

(8) A windshield, side window or rear window in a motor vehicle must be made of glass unless another glazing material is prescribed by the American National Standard.

(9) A piece of safety glass manufactured for use in accordance with the American National Standard must be visibly, legibly and permanently marked

(a) with “American Standard” or “AS”,

(b) with the manufacturer’s distinctive designation, trademark or name, and

(c) with the appropriate numeral as set out in section 6 of the American National Standard.

(10) Replacement glazing that is cut from flat sheets and installed in a motor vehicle need not be marked if the glazing supplier certifies in writing that the replacement glazing otherwise complies with this section.

(11) A camper unit must have windows that are glazed in accordance with this section.




95EagleAWD
No tint on fronts. Period.

You should be safe 10 over for photo-radar.

HIDs technically are illegal, but if done right, it shouldn't be a problem.

MX5 Miata Guy
The real trick with after-market HID conversions is two-fold...only install them if your lenses actually have a decent horizontal cut-off (ie: you're not blinding everybody coming at you) and don't choose a colour that is either on the yellow or blue end of the spectrum (ie: stay around the 4000-5000k temp range).

aznpryde87
thanks a lot guys, you were a lot of help. saved me from some tickets lol

shawley
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
No tint on fronts. Period.

You should be safe 10 over for photo-radar.

HIDs technically are illegal, but if done right, it shouldn't be a problem.



my HID's are more legal than my yellow headlights that came in the car

95EagleAWD
quote:
Originally posted by shawley
my HID's are more legal than my yellow headlights that came in the car


Yeah, I bet they are. Skyline's have projectors as stock though, so it's not attracting retarded attention to yourself because the glare isn't bad.

Brettzo
Will they make you rip it off if you get caught? How strict are they with this measure? I'm looking into tint and it seems like a good majority of modded cars out there have driver/passenger window tint.

95EagleAWD
quote:
Originally posted by Brettzo
Will they make you rip it off if you get caught? How strict are they with this measure? I'm looking into tint and it seems like a good majority of modded cars out there have driver/passenger window tint.


They have every right to pull your tint. If you bitch about it, they can tow and impound your car.

Your choice.

MPZoom
I have my front windows tinted 35%. Its somewhat dark but as long as you don't drive like an asshole...I passed by a bunch of cruisers and they didn't seem to notice. Maybe its because I drive a 4door sedan :dunno:

95EagleAWD
quote:
Originally posted by MPZoom
I have my front windows tinted 35%. Its somewhat dark but as long as you don't drive like an asshole...I passed by a bunch of cruisers and they didn't seem to notice. Maybe its because I drive a 4door sedan :dunno:


Could very well be. My fronts are tinted as well, but I try not to drive like a moron and have not been hassled at all.

RWD
i have 25 percent on my car lol

turbomike
gmc crew cab 20% tint stock on the front 2 no problems ever!

SilverNeonRacer
quote:
Originally posted by turbomike
gmc crew cab 20% tint stock on the front 2 no problems ever!


If it comes from factory that way, and wasn't a dealer option or aftermarket, it's fine, but if you get stopped they might look to see if it's actual tinted glass or a glazing film, if it's a film you get a ticket.

dtjohnst
Should this not be part of an out-of-province inspection? Mine came in from Ontario, has very week tint on windscreen and front side windows, was a factory option. I think it's somewhere around 94% on the windscreen and 88% on the sides. I've got the documentation from the factory on the exact specs. It reezed through the inspection fine. Shouldn't the inspection ensure the vehicle is legal?

stybscelica
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
Should this not be part of an out-of-province inspection? Mine came in from Ontario, has very week tint on windscreen and front side windows, was a factory option. I think it's somewhere around 94% on the windscreen and 88% on the sides. I've got the documentation from the factory on the exact specs. It reezed through the inspection fine. Shouldn't the inspection ensure the vehicle is legal?


You would think it would be, However I spent some time with EPS Traffic enforcement and we actully attended a Car Dealership after hours. and inspected many brand new vehicles to ensure they complied with the Vehicle Equipment Regulations. Many of the vehicles had obvious equipment violations and many are from dealership PDI deficiencies. For example if you were sold a vehicle without mud flaps it is a violation under the equipmet regulations. Many dealership are adding Lifts to trucks, however if you modify truck hight and change the hieght of the bumper you guessed it. That will land you another coupon. By no means am i saying you will get a ticket, but every vehicle on the road weather new or old has some sort of Equipment violation. The vehicle regulations cover a wide spectrum and it is up to police and judical descretion on how it is applied.

Cheers

Now for tint, the VER states you must not apply or have tinted film on front drivers or passenger windows. As for factory smoked glass well your in the safe zone because it is not a film.

Godzilla
with front tint you got to be carefull of where you drive too. in Small hick towns where the cops are bored you'll get pulled over for anything that they think is illegal (i was pulled over in Gainford for having blue lights inside my car and i had to tell the cop that they were legal) but in the citys the cops have better things to worry about.

stybscelica
quote:
Originally posted by Godzilla
with front tint you got to be carefull of where you drive too. in Small hick towns where the cops are bored you'll get pulled over for anything that they think is illegal (i was pulled over in Gainford for having blue lights inside my car and i had to tell the cop that they were legal) but in the citys the cops have better things to worry about.


You got off lucky any colored light visible to the exterior of the vehicle is contrary to the VER.

Godzilla
actually the cop asked me if they were legal, then he started asking me all kinds of other stupid questions thinking I had crack in the car (the tercel, honistly). But yeah from my own experience and others you can get away with more illegal mods in bigger citys than small towns.

dtjohnst
quote:
Originally posted by stybscelica
You got off lucky any colored light visible to the exterior of the vehicle is contrary to the VER.


I partly disagree with that. Insofar as the letter of the law is concerned, I agree with you. But my old sunfire had the bright red instrument lighting, clearly visible from the outside. My headunit has REALLY bright blue lights. In either case, I'm pretty sure I'm legal. The key would be why is the light there, and is it distracting either to the driver of that vehicle or to other drivers.

If the cop asked you if they were legal, I'm wondering if he maybe shouldn't go back to police school. Would he really expect people to say "No, actually. They're illegal."? It's up to him to enforce those laws he knows, not pull people over to ask about them.

stybscelica
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
I partly disagree with that. Insofar as the letter of the law is concerned, I agree with you. But my old sunfire had the bright red instrument lighting, clearly visible from the outside. My headunit has REALLY bright blue lights. In either case, I'm pretty sure I'm legal.

We'll I agree with you but again as to the letter of the law you wouldn't be if the Head unit was not factory installed

The key would be why is the light there, and is it distracting either to the driver of that vehicle or to other drivers. totally agree

If the cop asked you if they were legal, I'm wondering if he maybe shouldn't go back to police school. Would he really expect people to say "No, actually. They're illegal."? It's up to him to enforce those laws he knows, not pull people over to ask about them. This must have been a rookie




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