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Ls/vtec engine - Click HERE for Original Thread

chu77
So my Ls/vtec engine is almost done. (b18c1 head/b18b block) The old B18c1 block is still in the GSR, I'm looking for someone to take out the old block from the engine bay and put in the new engine. It should be a direct drop in, just unbolt and rebolt. You can leave the wirings to me if you like.

The only problem is that you need to bring your tools and engine houst to my house to work on it.

Who wants to make some extra cash?

jberger
pm jasonturbo
he does a lot of them

AnTi_RiCeR
bump...

yeah PM jasonturbo, or call him at 240-3947. He has a thing for swaps! he should have it done in less then a day! He did my car for me... I have nothing but great things to say about the swap.:thumbup:

chu77
Thanks guys, I'll give him a call.

reklatsthgiN
quote:
Originally posted by AnTi_RiCeR
bump...

yeah PM jasonturbo, or call him at 240-3947. He has a thing for swaps! he should have it done in less then a day! He did my car for me... I have nothing but great things to say about the swap.:thumbup:



I don't think you should be posting up people's phone number on a public forum. If your going to just give out a guys cell phone number do it threw PMs.

blitz
you should om japish he has done alot of this stuff dose good work

EK9Hatch
jason wont go to his place. he'll have to bring the car to jason.

chu77
Bump, I've got a garage, you just need to bring the tools and engine houst. Btw: You don't need to take out the tranny, just the block and put in the new long block. Pics coming later.

jasonturbo
Hey bro, sorry I never replied to your pm, but for the money you offered to pay... it wasnt even worth my time to reply.

1- I charge 1000$ for b series swaps.

2- I do all my work at my shop for a reason, cause I have all my tools there, all my supplies there, my engine hoist there, my air compressor, torch, welder... etc....

3- You fail to realize that the concept or just dropping out the motor and leaving the tranny in the car would actually create more work, and take longer and be a big pain in the ass. The best way is just to pull out the assy. and break the tranny off the motor on the ground.

4- If you want me to do it, you will have to come up with a lot more money. Sorry man, just the way things are. Especially if you expect me to do it at your house.


There's your options.

I am a good guy to deal with, but you low balled so bad.

Pm me if you still need me to do it, and are ready to make a better proposal.

kornsined
people always want something for nothing. :dunno:

95IntegraRS
How much was he offering? I might be interested.

chu77
Well, I've found someone already....

95IntegraRS you got pmed

jasonturbo
150$.....

Honestly

element_2nice
hey chu77 i could help u out, gimme a shout
i m more then willin to help
havent done swap before, but u could
always use an extra hand or sumthin
ofcourse i'll help for free
cheers :thumbup:

chu77
quote:
Originally posted by jasonturbo
150$.....

Honestly



No, I'm offering $250 now, but school is starting soon and I'm still waiting on my scholarship money.

And the swap is very very easy, shouldn't take more than a day or two...

Hyon11
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
No, I'm offering $250 now, but school is starting soon and I'm still waiting on my scholarship money.

And the swap is very very easy, shouldn't take more than a day or two...



so for $250 you expect someone to bring all their tools and hoist and work in your garage for 1-2 days?

katrink
The swap should actually take less then 8 hours to do. But I wouldn't do it for less then a grand eather. (nightstalker)

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by katrink
The swap should actually take less then 8 hours to do. But I wouldn't do it for less then a grand eather. (nightstalker)


if that was the case, then if acura took 8 hours to do it, they would probably under 1k to do it. and its not so much of a B series swap and its just a change of an engine

TylerH
$125/hour, wow thats quite the rate you guys are asking to help this guy.

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by TylerH
$125/hour, wow thats quite the rate you guys are asking to help this guy.


i believe thats well over shop rate, and comes with no warrenty in the event they did something wrong or forgot to do something. then again, these guys are dealing with the performance aspect which i see none in simply taking out a motor and putting another one of the same kind in

chu77
newaccorddriver, TylerH

Thanks for the support guys!

If I can't find anyone by next week then I'll do it myself. Not like you need to go to med school to do this kind of work, it's just I don't got the right tools.

newaccorddriver
all you really need is a hoist, the only tool you might need is a pickle fork or a 32mm socket for the axle nuts. everything else is just nuts and bolts and wires

jasonturbo
have fun, fuck off with the acura would only charge 8 hours bs.

it would be like 25 proabably.

I can drop a honda engine faster than anybody at acura.

And yeah the swap would take a day.

125$/hour is what you pay if you want jasonturbo quality.

Ask around, there is none better.

When your shit blows up, call me.

Call any shop in town and get a quote. I garuntee they wont come to your house, and I also garuntee it will cost 1000$

And you dont need a pickle fork (aka ball joint tool) you just need a hammer... amateur.

Seriously though, good luck which ever way you go.

FYI I charge double my usual rate if somebody else worked on it first.

Don_the_dragon
Wow, what car is the engine form? What car is the engine going into? Good luck, it's not rocket science, but from what Ive seen, you dont even look like you can change brake pads, dont you still live with mommy? how old are you? 250? I do it myself and it costs me 250 just for pizza and beer with my buddies when I did the Mazda 323. Oh and you know what? you're right you dont need med school, just the right tools, a shop manuals, and the knowledge. Or just get a Mechanic's license. Good luck to ya, and i hope the engine doesn't fall on you because I sure hope it doesn't because we need azn kids who live with mommy and daddy till they're 30 yrs old.

element_2nice
quote:
Originally posted by Don_the_dragon
Wow, what car is the engine form? What car is the engine going into? Good luck, it's not rocket science, but from what Ive seen, you dont even look like you can change brake pads, dont you still live with mommy? how old are you? 250? I do it myself and it costs me 250 just for pizza and beer with my buddies when I did the Mazda 323. Oh and you know what? you're right you dont need med school, just the right tools, a shop manuals, and the knowledge. Or just get a Mechanic's license. Good luck to ya, and i hope the engine doesn't fall on you because I sure hope it doesn't because we need azn kids who live with mommy and daddy till they're 30 yrs old.


man cmon...why u r gettin all personal n shit
the guy is jus lookin for help
wat it has to do livin with parents n all???

EK9Hatch
Haha, as for the comment about Acura doing it in 8 hours and the bitching about $125/hr....Call and ask them how much they charge to do it AT your house. Let me know what they say...:lol:

Jamie

chu77
Ok guys, you don't need to do it at my house, jezz. I can always tow it to your place or whatever.

Anyways I'm only 18 and still learning. Of course I live with my mommy, I've got to go to school for another 8 years.:eek:

Different people choices different paths, each to their own.

BTW: The engine is basicly the SAME engine that was in the car, just the block is different. Therefore this is not even considered a swap. Should be the easiest swap you'll ever do.

Hummmm........I didn't ask for shop rate prices did I? If I'm paying that I'll just go to Acura and even have warranty on their job.



Lol, $125/hr, thats almost the same as a doctor's pay.

katrink
If you don't like the price. Do it your self. Its honestly not that hard. But its the same price pretty much anyone would charge.

Superbeast2
Wow.
When did backyard mechanics get so greedy?

You guys should all be ashamed of yourselves. Nothing personal to jasonturbo. I'm sure your work is mint and far better than my own... but I think this guy is looking for a fellow enthusiast to help.

The whole point of these forums are for car ENTHUSIASTS to meet each other and help each other out.

Bascially, he's looking to meet some people who know more than him to help them out, and is willing to pay them for it. $250 isn't too bad for a day of drinking and working on cars. I've done a lot more for a lot less.

In my club... we do this for a flat of beer for a decent guy, becuase we all enjoy working on cars on a weekend and hanging out with other like-minded individuals, but then again it's not a career for us, it's a hobby.

Anyway, something for you all to think about. $250 for 12 hours is still $20/hour tax-free. Not bad for drinking beer.

katrink
I am pretty sure that Jason has swapped more cars then all of cevo combined. If you take out all the stuff done by people @ heatscore then I assure you that he has. I am trying to think of people that have running swaps as a result of Cevo.. I am thinking with the clubs 1031 members.. there are maybe 10 or so cars with engine swaps done by club members. Ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Lisa civic
Domo, I am not sure if he actually did that swap though
Prelude power
Drastik has that CRX, but I don't know if it runs
Superbeast
Brent

Thats all I can think of right now. Jason has done pretty much every honda swap you can think of, aswell as a lot of work on nissan stuff. I think he is the only person I know of to do a rb25 swap in a skyline so far. (nightstalker)

Soulfly
I Could lend a hand.. :dunno:

chu77
quote:
Originally posted by katrink
I am pretty sure that Jason has swapped more cars then all of cevo combined. If you take out all the stuff done by people @ heatscore then I assure you that he has. I am trying to think of people that have running swaps as a result of Cevo.. I am thinking with the clubs 1031 members.. there are maybe 10 or so cars with engine swaps done by club members. Ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Lisa civic
Domo, I am not sure if he actually did that swap though
Prelude power
Drastik has that CRX, but I don't know if it runs
Superbeast
Brent

Thats all I can think of right now. Jason has done pretty much every honda swap you can think of, aswell as a lot of work on nissan stuff. I think he is the only person I know of to do a rb25 swap in a skyline so far. (nightstalker)



However this swap I'm talking about isthe easiest swap you can do, just basicly an engine replacement. I'm not trying to put a k20 into a civic...........

Ludex
Shit didnt know that ppl were so fucking bitchy about doin a swap
i've dropped alot of engines from cars put one or two back in
there not that hard man if you wanna know like how to drop it if you dont have a hoist i know how
you can alsso put hte engine back in from the bottom its just easier if you lift but yea man gimmie a shout if you are going to do it yourself and i will give you some pointers
i dont know if you want me to work on your car tho im only 16 but yeah i dunno i work at a junkyard and all we do is drop engines and stuff so pm me if you want my help

Superbeast2
quote:
Originally posted by katrink
I am pretty sure that Jason has swapped more cars then all of cevo combined. (nightstalker)


Thanks for coming out Mike.
You've turned my post into something it was never intended to be. Maybe instead of your post I should have quoted my own where I said "No offence to jasonturbo, I'm sure his work is mint and far better than my own".

I mean... it wasn't a flame post... I pointed out that the kid was looking for a friendly ENTHUSIAST... not an expert charging a grand a day. The guy isn't looking for an RB25... he's looking to BOLT IN a b-series... and do some wiring.

I can't really talk numbers for other CEVO guys... but if there are only 10 swaps done in cevo... I can name 7 of them off the top of my head that I've done... so I'm guessing the actual number is somewhere NORTH of there. You don't see me commenting on how few running swaps you're done... becuase I really don't know. I do know however... that you ALWAYS have to borrow a pickle fork from ME to do it. I think the fact that you don't even have the proper tools for a swap will speak volumes by itself.

So instead of taking every opportunity to bitterly condemn a club you don't even belong to, try and reflect on the fact that you are one of the more notorious jackstand racers around.

Enough said... don't flame me again when I'm not even talking to you. Hell... I wasn't even flaming ANYONE, so you really have no reason to act like an ass.


*EDIT* And by the way... to put this more on topic. chu77, drop me a PM, I may be on days off pretty soon here and I wouldn't mind stopping by for a couple hours to help out. (for beer of course. :) )

chu77
Ludex - Hum..... swaping from the bottom? Sounds cool.

Can you give us a more detailed instruction on how you do it?

Here's a more detailed list for this job :btw why is my valve cover red? JDM?

1)Need to swap the timing belt/waterpump/crankpulley from the old block to the ls/vtec (easy when the motor is out)

2)The tranny, don't know if you want to pull the thing out too or just unbolt it and rebolt it to the ls/vtec in the engine bay.

3) Theres still some assc. on the old block (alter./a/c /starter etc.) I need you to swap it on the Ls/vtec

4) Swap old flywheel on to Ls/vtec

5) Swap in the new ls/vtec and hook everything up






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Ludex
first all you do is disconnect everything up top
this being wires tubes shiit like thtat hte power steering and shit
then support the car with jackstands of course
then get underneith and take out that brace for your subframe that runs along the bottom of the engine
remove the rear engine mount bolt if its easier from down there
unbolt hte tranny mounts and remove the exhaust headers so there outta the way
if you want you can also remove the rediator just to give yourself more clearance
take out the axels
then support the engine on the top with some rope and a piece of 2x4 that streches out across your car
then take off the three mounts the two on the side and the one on the front and the rear if your didnt do it already( there all 17 mm's)
jack the car up and take out the jack stands shove a tired under where the engine is comming down adn lower the car till the engine hits the tire
then release the rope and jack the body back up and get a buddy to help you pull the tire out from underneithe the car
and to put it back in get the other one on a tire shove it under
then lower the car line up the mounts and bolt it in then you can jack it up all together
and put all the shit back on that you took off underneith and shit
and then wire it up
thats the ghetto way but shit if you dont have a hoist man its the best i can suggest unless you have super man to help you lift that shit out lol
:asshole:

element_2nice
quote:

thats the ghetto way but shit if you dont have a hoist man its the best i can suggest unless you have super man to help you lift that shit out lol
:asshole: [/B]

lmfao...

chu77 try to arrange a hoist or somethin....
it will really help
cant u rent hoist or sumthin?

newaccorddriver
i have a hoist, but my cousins borrow it. when he returns it, hopefully this weekend, then i have no problem lending it out to you.

Mobius
Does Part Source rent them?

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by Mobius
Does Part Source rent them?


not that i know of. the only place that i know that sells it is princess auto and house of tools. canadian tire lists them on their website, but i havent seen it in the store yet

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by jasonturbo
have fun, fuck off with the acura would only charge 8 hours bs.

it would be like 25 proabably

And yeah the swap would take a day.

And you dont need a pickle fork (aka ball joint tool) you just need a hammer... amateur.



i highly doubt they would charge 25 hours worth of work for a job like that. ive dropped my engine in only 2 hours, that included labelling everything neatly, so if acura cant do it in 2 hours, then they must really suck. to put it in might take a bit longer, but theres no chance in hell it would take a day to do the swap. and at no point did i call myself a pro, this is my hobby, not my profession

chu77
I think I found a hoist for $80, I don't know if it works or not.....I'll see soon.

I make a thread on my progess guys! Thanks for your support!

-Henry

Don_the_dragon
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
Ok guys, you don't need to do it at my house, jezz. I can always tow it to your place or whatever.

Anyways I'm only 18 and still learning. Of course I live with my mommy, I've got to go to school for another 8 years.:eek:

Different people choices different paths, each to their own.

BTW: The engine is basicly the SAME engine that was in the car, just the block is different. Therefore this is not even considered a swap. Should be the easiest swap you'll ever do.

Hummmm........I didn't ask for shop rate prices did I? If I'm paying that I'll just go to Acura and even have warranty on their job.



Lol, $125/hr, thats almost the same as a doctor's pay.


ya you're right, you're only 18 I just turned 19 and I've been living on my own since I was 15 the reason I hate kids under over 18 still living with mommy and daddy is because they either act all gangster or drive a nice ass car and spend daddy and mommy's money, or all of the above, and it makes us chinks look bad. So what if you're going to school so am I? and just get a shop manual, and a hoist and you're good to go.

chu77
quote:
Originally posted by Don_the_dragon
ya you're right, you're only 18 I just turned 19 and I've been living on my own since I was 15 the reason I hate kids under over 18 still living with mommy and daddy is because they either act all gangster or drive a nice ass car and spend daddy and mommy's money, or all of the above, and it makes us chinks look bad. So what if you're going to school so am I? and just get a shop manual, and a hoist and you're good to go.


Well, I've not spend a cent of my parent's money on my cars or clothing etc. They just feed me and give me a roof which I will do in return when they get older.

I agree about those azn making the rest of us look bad. What happen to the azn who work hard?

Anyways, I wanted to finish this car tunning game before school starts, I don't want it to interfer with my studys. (need a 3.7 avg for med school) So I just want to get this done as soon as possible, but I guess I've got to do this now: do it fast, right and hope for the best.



How long do you guys think it'll take me? 3-4 days?
(the headgasket on the prelude took me 1 week....i didn't have the right tools)

Btw: How did you guys know I'm azn? Is it my lazy grammar? Or just cuz I'm cheap lol

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by Don_the_dragon
ya you're right, you're only 18 I just turned 19 and I've been living on my own since I was 15 the reason I hate kids under over 18 still living with mommy and daddy is because they either act all gangster or drive a nice ass car and spend daddy and mommy's money, or all of the above, and it makes us chinks look bad. So what if you're going to school so am I? and just get a shop manual, and a hoist and you're good to go.


this post doesnt really have anything to do with the topic, but it makes no difference if your living under your parents roof. its not like everybody can go out at 15 and live on their own. so what if i drive a nice car, its not like my parents bought that thing for me. i saved up my own money for it and thats what i have to show. so what makes it so asians have such a bad image? the fact that pretty much all of us like going to school and getting high paying professions? the fact that we all like driving nice cars? the fact that we dont really support ourselves until we are truly ready? if its none of the above, then id truly like to know, cause if your 15 and your really ready to live on your own, you gotta have a pretty damn good job for that to happen, cause it wont happen if your flipping burgers

element_2nice
quote:
Originally posted by newaccorddriver
this post doesnt really have anything to do with the topic, but it makes no difference if your living under your parents roof. its not like everybody can go out at 15 and live on their own. so what if i drive a nice car, its not like my parents bought that thing for me. i saved up my own money for it and thats what i have to show. so what makes it so asians have such a bad image? the fact that pretty much all of us like going to school and getting high paying professions? the fact that we all like driving nice cars? the fact that we dont really support ourselves until we are truly ready? if its none of the above, then id truly like to know, cause if your 15 and your really ready to live on your own, you gotta have a pretty damn good job for that to happen, cause it wont happen if your flipping burgers


werd


btw i think we should just stop talkin abt this now...
no point takin the thread off topic
lets jus stay on topic guys...

cant wait to see some progress
gl chu

:)

chu77
Yes!!! 50% done with taking out the engine. Going to drop it from the bottom. I've got only the engine mounts to take out, which I will do tommorow.


I'm going to keep posting on this thread for updates.


After taking out the engine I'll need newaccorddriver's engine hoist.

Thanks for hearing me out guys!
-Henry

element_2nice
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
Yes!!! 50% done with taking out the engine. Going to drop it from the bottom. I've got only the engine mounts to take out, which I will do tommorow.


I'm going to keep posting on this thread for updates.


After taking out the engine I'll need newaccorddriver's engine hoist.

Thanks for hearing me out guys!
-Henry


post pics?
:dunno:

newaccorddriver
umm, you either have to tow your car to my place, or pick it up when i get it back. it doesnt fit in my car as a whole...

jasonturbo
you have to understand I am a mechanic... if you dont charge money like that you end up doing nothing but favors all the time. I dont mind favors once in a while, but I have spent every day of the last couple years in my time off, working on imports.

I have just gotten to the point that if you can drop 5 g's on an r swap, then you can afford the 1g in labor.

either way, as I said good luck.

just cause your poor doesnt mean I dont like you though.

seriously, good luck.

peace

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by jasonturbo
just cause your poor doesnt mean I dont like you though.



He's poor because he doesn't want to pay someone off the internet $1000 to swap an engine?

That's one of the most ignorant comments I've heard yet in this thread.

jasonturbo
maybe it was a joke..???

Hey on a side note, i will rent you my engine hoist at 125$/hour.

He cant be poor if he has an ls vtec and he is 18...!!!!!!

Maybe you should relax..??? Are you poor?? I didnt mean to offend the poor people of 780.

Seriously though it was just jokes, i run a business, why would I harsch on and scare away potential customers.

FYI even though I charge a 1000$ for b swaps, that usually involves me throwing in 200$ or more in parts/ hoses/ belts/ mounts/ fluids/ throttle cables etc..., never mind that I do the cleanest swaps, and would always warranty any of my screw ups. And I usually am stuck putting on intakes/ sway bars/ susp. strut bars etc at the time of install just as bonus.

Even though I have never screwed up

I was made for swapping engines on imports... common man, my friggin intials are JDM.

Sorry I called you poor.

Superbeast2
Right on. Glad to see some people still have a sense of humour.
gl with the swap chu.
And like I said, drop me a pm if you need a hand.

chu77
I'm going to U of A , into med school = I'm a poor student.

Will be posting pics tonight. After I: take out the header, axle, engine mounts and drop it like it's hot.


I'll also post pics on the "hole", I looked at it and I was like "wtf, is the other owner retarded?"

jasonturbo- Sorry I didn't know you were running a bussiness on swaps. All the new parts, belts, hose would cost a lot. I guess for that high quality of work, 1g would be worth it. However I'm just looking for someone who wants to do a swap on the side for a bit of extra cash. Again no offence to you, nor taken by me.


The problem is I've also got 2 units in physic correspondent that I have to finish up before school starts.:lol: I was too busy with my gf all summer.:cool:

mazdaspeed_03
hahaha this thread is getting so cluttered with jasonturbo bashing....i think its time to start a whole new thread were we can bash him....we could call it "BASH THE PRO"

whada u all say...whos with me!!!! hahaha ;)

just kidding jays the sh*t

chu77
Hummm.......if I leave the tranny in there I'll need to unbolt the flywheel from the clutch right?

Can you guys give me detail instrutions on how to take out the axle? The manual just said: "Take out the axle..." Like that helps at all.


newaccorddriver- can you lend me the tools to take the axle out. "pickle fork" and the 32mm? Also the engine hoist when you could. Thanks

jasonturbo
just use a floor jack to drop the engine out, then drop it off the jack while it's still under the car, and slide the motor out.

As for the ball joints, do not use the tool.

Just take off the 17mm ball joing nut like half way and loosen the 17mm shock bolt on the bottom of the stut till the nut is off, turn the spindle to one side and hit the lower control arm right on top of where the ball joint nut goes on, but hit it sideways not up and down. The ball joint will just break free, and the take the nut off and lift the spindle out of the lower ball joint. Then drive the shock bolt out with a punch or use a 17mm open end wrench and hit it with a hammer behind the washer part of the bolt.

Where the axle goes into the tranny, take a rather large flat screw driver and gently drive it in between the axle/tranny case until the axle pops out like a half an inch, and the just pry it out. watch for the oil that will follow. The driver side needs only motivation from a small hammer to drive it off the intermidiate shaft. Swing from the inside of the car toward the outside. This axle has a female end, not a male end, so make sure you are hitting the right spot, it should come off in a few light taps.

There is some infinite wisdom for you...


that will be 80$, it didnt quite take me an hour to write that, so i cut you a break. (wink wink)

peace

BTW you need to hit the LCA rather hard with the hammer.

chu77
Thanks jasonturbo! I'll get right to it!

humm... this is getting fun, I love learning new things!

Thanks again!
-Henry

chu77
ummm... can't get the ball joint off.....


Tell if I'm doing this right.

Red X= where I'm hitting
Green= Removed
Yellow= Loosen bolts




Also where is the intermidiate shaft?
Where should I tap from?

jasonturbo
hit the lower control arm, but leave the shock bolt in (so put it back in , in the pic it is out) hit right on top of the low yellow circle that is on the ball joint nut, so remove the ball joint nut until it is half off.

the arm that the shock bolt goes through is the lower control arm, hit the very end, just on to of the nut, like where the nut contacts when it is tightened down all the way.

hit the side of it, like toward the front or rear of the car, hit just between the ball joint grease jacket (rubber) and the ball joint nut.

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
ummm... can't get the ball joint off.....



If you can't get your ball joint off with the hammer, there is the option of using an actual press-tool to pop it out. The hammer typically works if you can swing hard enough in the right spot.

I'm not sure if CT / etc.... would have it as a rental, however the option is there if for some reason the hammer doesn't work.

newaccorddriver
i have that ball joint press tool, and it tore one of my tie rod end boots apart, thats why i switched to the fork. its my preference cause it hasnt ripped anything apart on my yet, and its sometimes hammering away at a 20 year old ball joint just wont do.

jdmguy
just use the fork, works well and most CT have it for rent, not sure if we have it there right now but i can check

TrevorK
quote:
Originally posted by jdmguy
just use the fork, works well and most CT have it for rent, not sure if we have it there right now but i can check


http://www.google.com/search?source...t+fork+rip+boot

The pickle fork is not a recommended tool.

newaccorddriver
even though its not recommended and it does rip boots often. i havent ripped a single one of them yet with it. the other tool i had was made to separate ball joints, and it ripped a boot the first time i tried using it

chu77
Do I have to do this to both sides? I'm going to try that pickle fork from newaccorddriver.

AnTi_RiCeR
ok, here is a peice of advice. those over priced press tools are JUNK! Pickle forks are okay. Use a damn hammer. dont hit it down, hit it to the side. dont hit the bolt (the top bolt sticking out with threads) either or u'll fuck shit up. just hit the side of the thing (not up, not down) but on the side. and hit it where it connects. A few decent swings with the wheels off the ground will pop this thing right out.

:thumbup:

Just my $0.02 though. Take it for what it is worth.

chu77
Yes! Thanks newaccorddriver! Your pickle fork really helped! The one on the pass. side came apart in 3 secs, the one on ethe driver side needed 2 swings with the hammer and one try with the pickle fork. The driveshafts are now out, no damage.

Now I'm going to wait for newaccorddriver's hoist, JDMguy is going to help me transport it with his truck. The hoist should be ready by the end of this weekend.


I'll keep you guys updated.

Thanks
-Henry

AnTi_RiCeR
good to see that people are interested in helping people out for the sake of learning. :thumbup:

chu77
quote:
Originally posted by AnTi_RiCeR
good to see that people are interested in helping people out for the sake of learning. :thumbup:


yeah, the people on this site can be really great!:thumbup:

chu77
UPDATE: Got the hoist from newaccorddriver, thanks man!

But stuck on removing the shift rod: How do you remove the spring pin?

Do you hit it out from the bottom? What tools do I use?


After that, the engine mounts are going to come out.

AnTi_RiCeR
we have re-named that pin the "bitch-pin" for this very reason. In my experience, get yourself somthing small enough to tap it out with. usually you get a special tool to contract the pin together and pull it out, but it is never that easy. lol. just take a hammer, and somthing that will fit into the hole, and push the pin out. Buy another pin from napa or honda for cheap. or even try to re-use the old one you push out. And yes, this COULD very well take you a while pissing around with the "bitch-pin"

*Post editied due to my lack of proper grammar and spelling mistakes.. lol*

Superbeast2
The thing about the bitch pin is this. If you use a cylindrical punch that is smaller than the inner diameter of the pin (actually called a roll pin I believe), it will slip inside and end up expanding the pin wider instead of pushing it out.

Here's a secret ghetto-tool I've found work well when you don't have the proper punch lying around.

Find a #2 robertson screwdriver, not with the handle, but the kind you would use in a drill... just the actual bit.
90% of them have the actual robertson head that fits inside the bitch pin as a guide, and then the flared part that will perfectly flange on the edge of the pin, without being too big.

Grab a set of vice-grips and put the bit in as hard as you can. Line it up, and hammer away. I've never had a bitch pin take more than 3 swings with this method... it actually works as good or better than having the correct punch.

Hopefully that helps.

chu77
The bitch pin was a bitch.


Took half a day, hammer + phlips screw bit. I even put a jack under that thing and it lifted the car by itself. But after that and 1/2 hr of hammering it got out. Tip for whoever is going to do this next: take a drill bit and drill the insides first, lots of rust there.



4/5 mounts are out, engine should be out tommrow morning.

AnTi_RiCeR
post some pictures. It is a great learning event for everyone. Maybee this will encourage more people to do their own swaps and take some initiative into putting there cars together.

chu77
quote:
Originally posted by AnTi_RiCeR
post some pictures. It is a great learning event for everyone. Maybee this will encourage more people to do their own swaps and take some initiative into putting there cars together.


lol, I'll show you all how thin I am. 6 foot and 135 pounds

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
lol, I'll show you all how thin I am. 6 foot and 135 pounds


damn, im like 5'11 and 280lbs. then again, im not like every other asian you see, i dont want a high paying job or fancy cars:rolleyes:

jasonturbo
here's the trick with the bitch pin...

it's a 1 minute job and I always re use the pin.

you need a 10mm fender bolt (one with the big washer and tappered end where the threads start.) that is about 1 1/2'' long. you gently tap it in with a small hammer to get the bolt jammed in the pin, then you get out a larger hammer and a couple good whacks later, it's out.

I never understand why people have trouble with this pin?

Any way, there's another 80$ on your bill.

Can't_stop_ns
Robertson screwdriver = Best bitch pin tool EVER.

That or air tools.. then it takes about 3 seconds.

chu77
1:00pm, today (Aug 29,2006) I've took the engine out! Took a while but it was a fun learning experience. Heres the pics. (That was my bed-head hair style, and yeah: Look at that hole!)

EDIT: I'd like to thank all of you including:newaccorddriver, jdmguy, jasonturbo and everyone who's reading/replying to this thread. Thanks for all of your support!







edmCRX
props man good work.
that rod took a nice bite out of the block ;)

newaccorddriver
you can thank me by combing your hair before you get your picture taken next time...:p

good work on the progress though. taking it out is insanely easy most of the time, its putting it back in that is the fun part. have fun with all the lines and hoses that have to be put back in place;)

midnite
props to you for doing this on your own. :thumbup:

bet you can't wait to have the new engine in

integraboi_00
good job man have fun puttin it back in such a bitch... neways good luck with tha rest

element_2nice
gj man...
:thumbup:

chu77
Ok guys: hohw do I take out the pressure plate? What and where can I get that tool (clutch aligment shaft?).

And why is the pressure plate bolt shaped like a star?

Also: newaccorddriver: how do you use that flywheel holder thing?




"sigh" Seems like I've still got a lot to learn from you guys!

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
Ok guys: hohw do I take out the pressure plate? What and where can I get that tool (clutch aligment shaft?).

And why is the pressure plate bolt shaped like a star?

Also: newaccorddriver: how do you use that flywheel holder thing?




"sigh" Seems like I've still got a lot to learn from you guys!



the flywheel wrench should be pretty straight forward, you need to hold it and use it in such a way that it will either stop it from turning, or turn it. its something which is alot easier to show, then to explain. maybe theres an online guide on how to use it?


ive got those 12 point sockets for the flywheel and pressure plate if you need to borrow them. im pretty sure i still have my old clutch alignment tool, but even if i did, im not sure if it would work for your integra as it was made for my accord clutch. if it doesnt work, then canadian tire should rent them out.

chu77
I'm going to see if princessauto has the 12 point tool, (size 10mm? or 12mm...I'll find out)

I think the clutch tool thing may work for all hondas? What time are you home? If I can't find one I'll give you a call and drop by.

Flywheel: looked all over the net, no good pics. I'll try again.

chu77
Update: Got the presssure plate off: Used a 14mm deep socket and a 5mm think pin as the aiginment tool. Used the end of a combination wrench for the star shaped bolts. Got the pressure plate off.


Now for the crank pulley bolt (super bitch bolt). Any tips? Going to hold it using newaccorddriver's flywheel holder (yes I figured out how to use it: it holds on to the teeth in both ends) and using a 17mm socket with a 2 foot long wrench. I need to make it longger somehow.......


If not I'm going to drill the dam bolt out and get a new one from napa.

Engine should be ready to be installed tomorrow.

jizzajamers
dude.. take your hood off... that's just in the way

integraboi_00
dude use a impact gun that crank bolt will spin rite out no prob..

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by integraboi_00
dude use a impact gun that crank bolt will spin rite out no prob..


that never worked on the crank pulley bolt on my car, the impact i had could easily get axle nuts off, but it couldnt get my crank pulley bolt out

newaccorddriver
quote:
Originally posted by chu77
I'm going to see if princessauto has the 12 point tool, (size 10mm? or 12mm...I'll find out)

I think the clutch tool thing may work for all hondas? What time are you home? If I can't find one I'll give you a call and drop by.

Flywheel: looked all over the net, no good pics. I'll try again.



im home right now, so you can give me a call any time. the clutch alignment tool is usually universal, but why spend $30 on it when a cheap plastic one that usually comes with the clutch already has one. i wouldnt be surprised if they are pretty much universal though.

for the 12 point sockets, youll be needing a 10mm for the pressure plate bolts, and a 17mm for the flywheel. i have both if you need them

newaccorddriver
i just looked at the posting times of alot of posts, and i can honestly say that alot of people need a day job:rolleyes:

Don_the_dragon
quote:
Originally posted by newaccorddriver
this post doesnt really have anything to do with the topic, but it makes no difference if your living under your parents roof. its not like everybody can go out at 15 and live on their own. so what if i drive a nice car, its not like my parents bought that thing for me. i saved up my own money for it and thats what i have to show. so what makes it so asians have such a bad image? the fact that pretty much all of us like going to school and getting high paying professions? the fact that we all like driving nice cars? the fact that we dont really support ourselves until we are truly ready? if its none of the above, then id truly like to know, cause if your 15 and your really ready to live on your own, you gotta have a pretty damn good job for that to happen, cause it wont happen if your flipping burgers

You're right nothing is bad about living uder your parent's roof, but it's those asians that cant speak english or chinese, hang out in groups of 10, driving around in slow cars that look fast, that I hate. Also, yeah going to school and getting a high paying profession is great, Im in Mechanical Engineer, I know. I just happen to have taken up trades and gone to school since I was 15 because I know it would help me out in life. Im a 2nd yr plumber, and heavy duty mechanic, Im also a 3rd yr welder. You can support yourself at anytime, Im just talking about the people who can and dont try. Or make themselves look ridiculously rich and dont have the money to back it up. I used to work on the rig as a DerrickHand, I know what white people have as the image of the asian race. There is such a large amount of disgraceful asians out there that it gives all of us a bad image, Im just trying to have less of that.

chu77
quote:
Originally posted by Don_the_dragon
There is such a large amount of disgraceful asians out there that it gives all of us a bad image, Im just trying to have less of that.


Yeah, I know what you mean. I also hate those asians that seem to "stick" the white people if you know what I mean. Almost like they downgraded themselves. It's sad watching them do that.


In a trade since 15? I wish I could start learning how to be a doctor at that age. Thats why I took up the hobbie of tunning/fixing up cars, so i could learn a different trade.

chu77
Went to EC today and they got the crank pulley off in 5 mins. Didn't even charge me anything.

The engine should be ready to be dropped sometime tomorrow

McFly
for future reference cnd tire rents balancer pullers;)

for free too

chu77
Hummmm....engine is almost ready to be in the car. The guy who sold me the block said I have to tq the two side pieces. Anyone know what he is talking about?

chu77
Also he said he tq the crankshaft to 45lb. What does that mean? I can't turn the crank by hand.......


I should of checked the block before hand.


Will be putting in engine tonight maybe or in the morning.




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