| snugs |
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/2006/08/22/1769343.html
A speeding motorcyclist apparently slammed into a police officer who was on foot operating a radar trap along Groat Road last night, sending both men to hospital in serious condition.
"I heard him coming, I always do, they race up this road with no regard for others," said a disgusted Ed Andrus, who's home on 132 Street back onto the northbound lanes of Groat Road, just south of 109A Street.
Andrus said he heard the roaring engine of the street bike shortly before 11 p.m. But rather than fading into the night, the revving sound just suddenly stopped.
"At first I thought 'there goes another wingnut,' but then it just stopped dead," he said.
The next thing Andrus heard was sirens, and shouting.
"I came out and saw one officer consoling another. The wounded officer's right leg was broken, his ankle twisted in. He was trying to move it but couldn't. It was tragic, he was in pure agony."
Others said the motorcyclist appeared to be in his early 20s, and thought he hit the officer while the policeman was standing near or in the right lane of Groat Road.
"I think the cop had just finished pulling over a vehicle and was returning to his radar setup when he got hit," said Sebastien Mielczarek, 27.
The 109A Street intersection is a well-known speed trap.
EMS Supt. Kevin O'Keefe said both patients were taken to the Royal Alexandra Hospital. "The (motorcyclist) was in serious condition with undetermined injuries," he said.
Of the injured officer, EPS Insp. John Visscher said "all I know is the member suffered a compound fracture to one arm." He could not confirm if the officer had broken a leg.
Police blocked off Groat Road from 111 Avenue to 107 Avenue late into the night as investigators interviewed other drivers and catalogued shattered motorcycle parts.
A motorcycle helmet lay on the grass beneath a stop sign.
The bike had skidded about 20 metres north of the Groat and 109A Street intersection, its headlight on and engine running.
Andrus had little good to say about its driver. "Speeding among these young guys on bikes is getting totally ridiculous. I don't even get the impression they care. When I got here the guy was sitting on the corner talking on a cellphone."
Andrus said he'd like to see speed governors made mandatory on racing bikes - not to deter excessive speeding, but to make it altogether impossible.
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If you've got a story about seeing a cop almost get smoked while running radar at night post it up. |
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| Bad Egg |
I have rarely seen radar out at that time of night, but I don't cruise Edmonton at night too often. It would be interesting to see what kind of safety gear he had on, such as a reflective vest.
I almost ran over a RCMP officer trying to set up a check-stop one night years ago when he tried to flag me down on the highway. If he hadn't turned sideways so that I could see the gold pant stripe I would probably have clipped him. Unmarked car, dark night in December, no steetlights, and a guy in dark clothes standing beside the road steps out and expects me to stop on a dime(I was going the limit in a known speed trap area).
In this case last night, even if the officer was wearing a reflective vest, being out on the road in a place where they know people are speeding is obviously a risky undertaking. Couple that with the parade of crotch rockets blasting Groat Road and the accident looks inevitable in hindsight. |
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| snugs |
| I tried to search for the thread I posted a couple of years ago but can't find it. Back in 04 I almost smoked a guy running radar on Sask Drive. It was in December, later in the evening, and in an area with inconsistent lighting. I managed to stop, but was "lucky" enough to witness the officer cause a nice little pile up when he jumped out in front of a bunch of cars and the people in the lead panic breaked to avoid hitting him. |
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| McFly |
i posted a thread in general about this but now i have found this one haha.
anyways i heard it was a hit and run so i dont trust the sun. |
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| Inzane |
quote: Originally posted by snugs
Andrus said he'd like to see speed governors made mandatory on racing bikes - not to deter excessive speeding, but to make it altogether impossible.
LOL... brilliant idea. :rolleyes: That would spell doom to the crotchrocket industry if something ridiculous like that actually happened.
Who would buy a "speed" bike that couldn't go fast??? :dunno: |
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| snugs |
quote: Originally posted by McFly
anyways i heard it was a hit and run so i dont trust the sun.
They had on the radio this morning that when the cop jumped out the guy laid the bike down and the sliding bike smoked the cop... so no hit and run. :dunno: |
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| McFly |
sounded alot different then that but it could have been the affects of a monday night party working on me:)
i still dont believe the sun 90% of the time |
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| Bad Egg |
Sounds like an identical situation to mine. When my RCMP officer tried to chew me out for not slowing sooner, I told him he was just lucky to still be standing there to give me hell. That gold striped pant leg is burned into my memory of close calls, along with the massive moose head I could have slapped out my truck window by Tete Jaune.
They are in a bit of a tough position, they need to be hidden enough so that people don't turn off the road a mile away, but visible enough so that they don't get run over. They certainly aren't going to write many tickets if they park a cruiser with the flashers on beside the road, and that is the only thing that really slows down traffic(not counting bikini car washes, and they are not usually active in the dark). If they are operating a night radar stop it would probably be in response to complaints, because you would think they would typically be busy at night with calls.
Maybe one of our member officers could tell us if radar traps at night are at all common, and what reasons they use for them. Is it a response to specific complaints, or just a quota grab on a slow weeknight? |
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| JustinL |
quote: Originally posted by snugs
I tried to search for the thread I posted a couple of years ago but can't find it.
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...over#post193867
I think the incident should definetly be investigated. I try to be very aware of my surroundings on the bike, but even still if some psycho jumps in front of me from an area not marked as a crosswalk I'd be surprised.
To catch the speeders, the cops try to hide themselves behind bushes and fences, but when they leap out into the speeding traffic they have to understand that they are responsible for not causing an accident.
As for putting a limiter on a bike... LOL! How hard could this be to remove? These are just musings of an angry resident, not a cop, and not a law maker. |
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| Bad Egg |
quote: Originally posted by JustinL
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As for putting a limiter on a bike... LOL! How hard could this be to remove? These are just musings of an angry resident, not a cop, and not a law maker.
That was my first thought. How many of us drive cars with fuel cut off limiters built in for certain speeds or boost levels? The first thing you will see on the enthusiast site for the vehicle is how to defeat these systems. |
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| Lococoin |
quote: Originally posted by Inzane
LOL... brilliant idea. :rolleyes: That would spell doom to the crotchrocket industry if something ridiculous like that actually happened.
Who would buy a "speed" bike that couldn't go fast??? :dunno:
what a great idea! Lets limit the bike so that i can only go 60 kms an hour. Anything faster in the city and it would be speeding. What an assclown that guy is. |
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| snugs |
EDMONTON, ALBERTA / 630 CHED - A member of the EPS Traffic Squad was hit and injured by an out of control motorcycle late last night.
The officer, part of a laser radar team monitoring Groat Road northbound at 109 A Avenue, stepped onto the roadway to flag down a speeding motorcycle.
In a futile atempt to stop in time, the biker laid the bike on its side but it plowed into the policeman's lower leg. Surgeons used pins to put the bones in the lower leg back together again.
The motorcyclist was taken to hospital for treatment of road rash.
http://www.630ched.com/news/news_lo...=news_local.cfm
I sure hope that if they try to tag on additional charges that the rider gets a good lawyer. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
This is just another example of how idiots think.
It's not the equipment that is the problem, it's the mentality of the moron behind the machine... Dumbasses. |
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| snugs |
quote: Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG
It's not the equipment that is the problem, it's the mentality of the moron behind the machine... Dumbasses.
The rider or the laser operator? :dunno: |
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| Inzane |
quote: Originally posted by snugs
The rider or the laser operator? :dunno:
LMAO!!!! :lol: :lol: |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
quote: Originally posted by snugs
The rider or the laser operator? :dunno:
Dare I say both. |
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| Bad Egg |
quote: Originally posted by snugs
The rider or the laser operator? :dunno:
I am with BlueTurboEgg, bikes speeding on Groat Road should hardly have been a surprise to a officer doing a radar job there. You would think that they would know enough to stay well clear of the driving lanes(unless he got nailed by the sliding bike while off to the side in the pull off spot, in which case it would be hard to fault him for not vaulting a motorcycle plowing towards him).
Bike riders are also well known contributors to experiments proving Darwin's theories. |
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| JustinL |
| I don't think there is a pull off in that section of road. That's the straight section with the high red fences north of 107. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Unless the cop was on the grass :confused:
It would've been safer and cheaper to just leave a cruiser mid-way and have a photo radar sign at the begining of Groat. |
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| Cougar_boy |
quote: Originally posted by Bad Egg
I have rarely seen radar out at that time of night, but I don't cruise Edmonton at night too often. It would be interesting to see what kind of safety gear he had on, such as a reflective vest.
Well i was driving home form work on a tuesday moring around 2:30AM. and they have radar set up inthe dark on 170street and 114Ave. and they were not wearing reflective vest. i didn't see them till i passed them. |
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| GQsmooth |
quote: Originally posted by McFly
anyways i heard it was a hit and run so i dont trust the sun.
I don't trust the sun either, they bullshit a lot of their stories, especially when they don't know anything about the whole story. They act like hollywood reporters putting on a front! And their use of words is terrible, seems like monkey's are doing all the writing.
And for the story, why would the cop jump out, in front of a speeding bike? |
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| Casanova |
| the sun also said they think that the cop wasnt trying to stop the biker, he was walking on the side of the road? the sun is stupid |
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| snugs |
quote: Originally posted by Casanova
the sun is stupid
meh, I linked to the 630 CHED report too, it says the cop was trying to flag down the bike.
The only good thing about the Sun was that it had a picture on its site. :p |
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| rythex |
The sun is a trash newspaper.. all it's good for is the bottom of a rabbit cage.
That article read more like a rant session from the old guy than anything else. "oh those whippersnappers on their fancy motor mobiles" |
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| McFly |
| i like there back of the front page cause its odd ball stories and the comics of the sun:D |
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| rexxrally |
I don't blame the cop at all in this incident. It was 100% the biker's fault. Driving is a privilege and a responsibility at the same time. You have to maintain both control of your vehicle and good judgement at all times. It's not a personal racetrack when there's innocent people around.
If this idiot on the bike was doing warp speed such that he couldn't slow down for the cop, then he deserved to destroy his bike, get major road rash and end up in jail with a mandatory court appearance. He's lucky that's all he got.
If it hadn't been a cop on the road in front of him, it might have been another innocent pedestrian, a little kid, or maybe even a car. If it had been a car, this clown on the bike wouldn't have been nearly as lucky as he was.
The cop was not doing anything illegal, and he was trying to protect all the rest of us from a selfish moron who could have done a lot of damage to other people's lives.
Let's put it this way: how would you feel about the biker if, instead of a cop, he hit your mom? |
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| bigmack000 |
quote: Originally posted by rexxrally
Let's put it this way: how would you feel about the biker if, instead of a cop, he hit your mom?
My moms not stupid enougth to stand in a way of a motor bike that can't slow down and off the side of a blind corner at that .
the cop shoudl jsut jump out on the grass and flag point at them and get soem oen eles in a safer area further down to get them . OR! shoot peopel with a paint ball gun hahah if you get hit you need to pull over hahaha |
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| rexxrally |
quote: Originally posted by bigmack000
My moms not stupid enougth to stand in a way of a motor bike that can't slow down and off the side of a blind corner at that .
But your mom doesn't NEED to be that stupid. That one idiot in the Corvette lost control, jumped the curb and killed somebody's mom walking on the sidewalk. It happens sooooooooo fast............ |
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| Tech2 |
I've been thinking about this one for a while now.
Sure it can be a pretty big surprise when some guy jumps out into the street. If the cop wasn't in safety gear, that's a big oops for him, as he should know. If the biker just got surprised and laid it down going like 80, well, shit happens, and it's called an accident.
But if he was going 100 after his exciting cruise up from the river valley he should know both his bike and the roads. For one, he should not be so surprised when unexpected shit happens at speed. Can't handle it? Go slower. And if he didn't expect anything to be there, he's just not smart. There is an intersection there that he should have seen. There is a crosswalk there where pedestrians could be. And finally, it's not the first time radar cops have been there.
So what really happened?
For what it's worth, I always slow down around that little bend. |
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| ChromeDragon |
If the bike was moving fast enough that the guy wouldn't be able to stop then the cop shouldn't have been stepping out in front of him.
Even still, do we know how fast the bike was even going? The Sun has already convicted him as an asshole 20-something with complete disregard for others, but the officer is a hero for walking into traffic? Yes I realize it's something they do, but why not have a better way to get speeding motorists to slow down than putting a cop on foot in the middle of a road where you do not expect to see pedestrians? At 11 p.m. no less? |
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| penance |
quote: "I think the cop had just finished pulling over a vehicle and was returning to his radar setup when he got hit," said Sebastien Mielczarek, 27.
Yeah right, I've seen cops run out into the middle of the road in busy traffic to flag down a speeding vehicle.... I'm not suprised there hasn't been more incidents like this in the past. I wouldn't call the cop a Hero for this.... stupid yes, and equally to blame for walking out into the street near midnight as the biker was for speeding. Heaven forbid you use your brain and attempt to go after the bike in your cruiser.. :rolleyes: |
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| Tech2 |
They should call in Air One!
I've swerved out of the way before when the cop has stepped out to catch some guy. I don't think it's a great system at all.
What a shitty job, I feel for those guys.
And of course, the Sun, what they say, what the people they inteview say is covered in a nice layer of BS. I'd like to hear what the forensic team said. |
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| notaturbotalon |
quote: Originally posted by GQsmooth
...And for the story, why would the cop jump out, in front of a speeding bike?
Because they're idiots and are poorly trained. I've had a cop jump out infront of me while I was going "too fast". And I've had ladies try to grab me as I pass by. Scares the crap out of you, I don't think they realize just how easy it would be to take the biker down. Now flame away self-righteous do-gooders. |
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| TrevorK |
quote: Originally posted by notaturbotalon
B And I've had ladies try to grab me as I pass by.
Do you wear assless chaps or something??? :dunno: |
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| JustinL |
quote: Originally posted by rexxrally
If it hadn't been a cop on the road in front of him, it might have been another innocent pedestrian, a little kid, or maybe even a car. If it had been a car, this clown on the bike wouldn't have been nearly as lucky as he was.
I've ridden down that section of road many times and there are only a couple really obvious things you need to watch out for. The cross walk, merging traffic from 107 and 1 side street. If you're going south, then there's just the cross walk.
My point is, that the cop must have been trying to stay hidden for a rider not to spot him. Even riding at the speed limit down that road (60kph) with guys jumping out from hiding spots is incredibly dangerous.
Then again, maybe he was visible from a great distance and the rider was either oblivious or decided to run the stop. IF that were the case then the blame is square on the rider.
Questions we'll likely never have answers for. |
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| Bad Egg |
quote: Originally posted by rexxrally
I don't blame the cop at all in this incident. It was 100% the biker's fault. Driving is a privilege and a responsibility at the same time. You have to maintain both control of your vehicle and good judgement at all times. It's not a personal racetrack when there's innocent people around.
If this idiot on the bike was doing warp speed such that he couldn't slow down for the cop, then he deserved to destroy his bike, get major road rash and end up in jail with a mandatory court appearance. He's lucky that's all he got.
If it hadn't been a cop on the road in front of him, it might have been another innocent pedestrian, a little kid, or maybe even a car. If it had been a car, this clown on the bike wouldn't have been nearly as lucky as he was.
The cop was not doing anything illegal, and he was trying to protect all the rest of us from a selfish moron who could have done a lot of damage to other people's lives.
Let's put it this way: how would you feel about the biker if, instead of a cop, he hit your mom?
rex, you are 100% right about fault, but being right doesn't give the officer much solace as he nurses his broken bones. Like most safety related issues, you need to make allowances for what complete morons might do. Since nobody on here knows the exact particulars, we are all guessing as to the position of the officer when he was struck. It just seems that operating these kind of radar traps is a risky business, made even more risky by the combination of darkness and the higher speed of traffic in a place like the one under discussion. |
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| snugs |
quote: Originally posted by rexxrally
I don't blame the cop at all in this incident. It was 100% the biker's fault. Driving is a privilege and a responsibility at the same time. You have to maintain both control of your vehicle and good judgement at all times. It's not a personal racetrack when there's innocent people around.
If this idiot on the bike was doing warp speed such that he couldn't slow down for the cop, then he deserved to destroy his bike, get major road rash and end up in jail with a mandatory court appearance. He's lucky that's all he got.
So at what point, in your opinion, does the officer get the privilege of taking some responsibility for his own actions. If you run out in front of a speeding vehicle expecting the laws of physics to suddenly chose that exact moment not to apply... well then tough titties when reality gives you a wake up call in the form of a sudden impact.
The way they run these speed traps at night IS NOT SAFE, and its just a matter of time before an officer gets killed. |
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| POX |
quote: Originally posted by snugs
The way they run these speed traps at night IS NOT SAFE, and its just a matter of time before an officer gets killed.
Yup, there has to be a better way of doin it |
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| ohboyitsme |
Pulled this off a sportbike forum I frequent. This is directly form the guy who hit the cop.
"I laid the bike down after locking up both front and rear brakes. The officer jumped out maybe 30-40m ahead of me. I was going around 100km/hr... clearly not enough time to stop. I have no clue why he did it - especially because they had a motorbike there to chase with incase I did try to run (which I NEVER would). As a last ditch effort to try not hitting him I laid the bike down steering to the left as hard as I could. I hit the ground hard and made it almost as far as the bike did. As soon as I stopped rolling/sliding I laid there for a second in shock, then got up and ran to the officer (not realizing I was hurt) to see if he was alright. I'm missing a large chunk of skin on my left hip and my left knee doesn't have any skin left on it. My right knee is a little peeled up too, but not near as bad. My left palm is burnt and has a nice blister on it. My left ankle is sprained and swollen like an orange, but supposedly not broken. The bottom of my right foot and my right pinky are both bruised pretty good. All things aside, I faired pretty well for the speed. The bike *just* hit the officers right leg as it slid passed (just after I let go of it). He is one crazy guy, but I have a lot of respect for both him and his family. I met his wife in the hospital and talked to her for a while, expressing my empathy, apologies and wishing her husband the best recovery possible. I will hopefully be going to see the officer later today. Luckily my mother works for EPS and was on scene shortly after the accident occured (she is who I called). She spoke to the officers partner who knew right away that I would have never (EVER) meant to hit him.
I have spoken with the ex-chief of police as well who was very courteous and wished me the best with my recovery at the hospital. Again I told him to tell the officers that I was extremely apologetic and regretful.
I will be working with the injured officer and his family to change EPS traffic stop practices in the future. I deserved a very large ticket and fine for what I did, but I feel very strongly that the officer did not deserve a broken leg, nor did I deserve the loss of a $6000 bike and the scars I will have for the rest of my life on my hip and legs. I do however take full responsibility for my actions.
There are no charges pending btw, but there is an investigation ongoing."
Hopefully we will all learn from this incident. The cops will learn ti be a little more careful when pulling over speeders. The speeders will learn to not speed?
If it had been a car the officer would likley be dead. |
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| Soulfly |
So.. Basicly.. The cop shouldn't have jumped out infront of him.. even if he was speeding.. But.. If the bike was going the speed limit.. He would have been able to stop.
Still It's Dumb why the officer jumped out infront of a moving vehicle.. That's Basicly putting himself In Harms way and ALMOST an attempted Suicide. |
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| Tech2 |
| Nice find. Seems to be a pretty reasonable story and a good perspective on what happened. It's also good to see the guy taking responsibility. And good for him to work for a change in the practice of catching speeders. |
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| snugs |
quote: Originally posted by ohboyitsme
I will be working with the injured officer and his family to change EPS traffic stop practices in the future. I deserved a very large ticket and fine for what I did, but I feel very strongly that the officer did not deserve a broken leg, nor did I deserve the loss of a $6000 bike and the scars I will have for the rest of my life on my hip and legs. I do however take full responsibility for my actions.
Cool. :thumbup: |
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| rexxrally |
quote: Originally posted by Soulfly
Still It's Dumb why the officer jumped out infront of a moving vehicle.. That's Basicly putting himself In Harms way and ALMOST an attempted Suicide.
We might consider it dumb, but that's what cops do. "To Serve and Protect" is not just a glorious motto, it's what they do; it's the way they live. Every cop knows every day when they step out their door on their way to work, they may not come home again.
If this cop had not stepped in this bike's way, the bike may have kept going, right into the traffic at 111th Ave. Yes, the cops could then give chase, but now you've got an even more dangerous situation going on: a police chase through town. The cops have no idea if this guy is wanted for murder or some other reason that will make this guy not want to stop in a police chase. On a sport bike, that chase could go a long way, passing a lot of innocent civilians.
The cop knew the guy was being dangerous right then and there, and the cop stepped out in front of him to stop him being dangerous right then and there.
If a cop corners a bandit, and the bandit shoots a gun at a cop, the cop is not going to step out of the way, and let the guy go just because he (the cop) is in a dangerous place. The bandit is being dangerous right then and there, and to let him go by can only possibly make the situation worse. Cops contain the situation in the place where it's happening; they do not let it spread.
The same thing happened here. The cop contained the situation to where it happened. The cop knew he could get hurt each and every time he steps out in front of a speeder. But he's a cop. That's what he's there to do: to serve and protect all of us. |
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| Casanova |
| I suck at physics. Even if dude was going 60 would he have been able to stop when a cop jumped out in front of him 30 m? |
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| Insomniac |
the bike can stop in that distance but the rider would need time to percieve the cop and react.
with the perception/reaction/and braking, the bike would over shoot the cop by about 10m.
i am highly skeptical of the 30m figure, i bet the actual distance is much longer
i know the cop, and he's a very bright guy, i don't think he'd jump out infront a bike that close |
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| midnite |
a friend of mine had an officer jump out front behind a sign with his radar/laser gun to see if she was speeding (she wasn't), but it scared her enough that she swerved into oncoming traffic because she thought he was running onto the road..
she didn't hit anyone, but could have easily collided with someone head on. the officer had an 'oh fuck' look when he realized how much he scared her.
i think they need to rethink the jumping out in front of a car tactic and set it up more like a checkstop, with the guy taking laser a couple blocks ahead. |
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| Tech2 |
I would think the safety of radioing ahead to a waiting cruiser would be worth the extra expense. Just like what the RCMP often does on the highway.
Or go like some place in the states I read about and throw down spike belts. :p |
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| midnite |
i nearly hit an officer on 97th who ran out in front of me to stop the guy to my left. the brakes didn't work as well as he expected in my first car.
the way rcmp do it on the highway is much safer. |
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| rexxrally |
The highway is much easier to contain, so they can do it that way. If they set up the radar gun a couple of blocks ahead, it gives the speeding bike a couple of blocks to stop, climb the curb, scoot across the grass, and disappear down any number of back alleys. A 4X4 could do the same.
Not saying that's particularly applicable in the location where this incident occurred.
One way they could do it in the city (and in this location it would be applicable) is to park the radar gun up on the 107ave overpass and "shoot" the cars as they come out from underneath it on the north side.
The cops do that a lot on the Ellerslie road overpass on the northbound side of Hwy 2, coming into the city. "Welcome To Edmonton, Here's Your Ticket. Enjoy The Rest Of Your Stay". |
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| TrevorK |
quote: Originally posted by rexxrally
The highway is much easier to contain, so they can do it that way. If they set up the radar gun a couple of blocks ahead, it gives the speeding bike a couple of blocks to stop, climb the curb, scoot across the grass, and disappear down any number of back alleys. A 4X4 could do the same.
Isn't the general rule that if the cop flagging you doesn't get your plate, and then you are lost out of his sight, he can not give you a ticket because he can not accurately state that it was you that was speeding?
I would assume that would come into effect if you pulled people over farther down the road out of sight. |
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| lilweiner |
| meh.... ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Wask |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
meh.... ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Classy |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
meh.... ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:thumbdown
When I get a badge, I'll keep this in mind... |
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| lilweiner |
quote: Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
:thumbdown
When I get a badge, I'll keep this in mind...
the only thing you'll be getting is a ride to the hospital via ambulance..... or hurst. It will prolly end up bein' your choice. |
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| lilweiner |
quote: Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
:thumbdown
When I get a badge, I'll keep this in mind...
besides you should be estatic, the more cops that die the better chance you have of passing through the turnstyles and playin that role in life.... that is what you want right??? |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
the only thing you'll be getting is a ride to the hospital via ambulance..... or hurst. It will prolly end up bein' your choice.
I'm done with you.
Un-fucking-believeable. You're the biggest hippocrite I've ever seen on this board. |
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| lilweiner |
quote: Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I'm done with you.
Un-fucking-believeable. You're the biggest hippocrite I've ever seen on this board.
well fuck man, your old lady told me your a shitty shot, i just figured if you got into a gun fight or anything, if you didnt runn like a pussy you'd prolly get gunned down. You better train in cardio hard!!!!!! and get good shoes. you dont want knee problems when you get older. |
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| Blaine B. |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
well fuck man, your old lady told me your a shitty shot, i just figured if you got into a gun fight or anything, if you didnt runn like a pussy you'd prolly get gunned down. You better train in cardio hard!!!!!! and get good shoes. you dont want knee problems when you get older.
Blair,
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| baker_jeff |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
well fuck man, your old lady told me your a shitty shot, i just figured if you got into a gun fight or anything, if you didnt runn like a pussy you'd prolly get gunned down. You better train in cardio hard!!!!!! and get good shoes. you dont want knee problems when you get older.
Shut the fuck up.
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| lilweiner |
| meh nuthing better to do right now, work so boring, this is the r u bored room isnt it. I'm bashing ryan cause he took the bait..... i just like to troll to waste time, makes work go by a lil better, i go out do water tests take some samples come back to the control room and see how pissed some get.... Fuckin love it. Keep up the entertaining me guys!!!! |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
meh nuthing better to do right now, work so boring, this is the r u bored room isnt it. I'm bashing ryan cause he took the bait..... i just like to troll to waste time, makes work go by a lil better, i go out do water tests take some samples come back to the control room and see how pissed some get.... Fuckin love it. Keep up the entertaining me guys!!!!
I took no bait. What you said is tasteless.
I have no doubts about my ability to out-shoot you as well. I'm a very good shot. |
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| lilweiner |
| I wasnt talking about out shooting me, i wouldnt shoot at you. But anywayz yes i am going to take this oppurtunity to appologize to you Ryan, i didnt mean to emotionally put you off, what i said was out of distaste, i agree, and i also apologize to using remarks directly agaist you. Shows a lack of character on my behalf. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
I wasnt talking about out shooting me, i wouldnt shoot at you. But anywayz yes i am going to take this oppurtunity to appologize to you Ryan, i didnt mean to emotionally put you off, what i said was out of distaste, i agree, and i also apologize to using remarks directly agaist you. Shows a lack of character on my behalf.
I wasn't talking about shooting you either. Re-read my comments.
As far as your apologies, both here and in the other thread; well, too bad. Your "lack of character" has cost you your credibility and my respect on this board. |
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| lilweiner |
quote: Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I wasn't talking about shooting you either. Re-read my comments.
As far as your apologies, both here and in the other thread; well, too bad. Your "lack of character" has cost you your credibility and my respect on this board.
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Your just no fun, but i do still think your a little fucking light in the loafers. but no fun at all. Have fun lickin assholes monkey boy. |
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| REFLUX |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Your just no fun, but i do still think your a little fucking light in the loafers. but no fun at all. Have fun lickin assholes monkey boy.
You're pretty damn close to being banned for these kind of comments.
Especially the last bit.
Suspended. |
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| daytonagord |
ok really it is the motorcyclist in the wrong here, but you thing a seasoned officer would know that a bike is likely going much faster then a car would be and from the sound know that the bike is going extreemly fast and not step infront of it.
and stay on the very edge of the lane and not in the center.
so really this is terrible news no matter how much a hate radar, and I do speed, but really An officer should know not to step infront of a viechal speeding.
they are stopping them because speed laws are to keep people safe and leave viechals at a speed in which they can safely manover and stop ect... and if it is operating outside this safe speed of course it's going to take longer to stop ect...
the motorcyclist is the one in the wrong here, and the officer just made a bad judgment. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote: Originally posted by REFLUX
You're pretty damn close to being banned for these kind of comments.
Especially the last bit.
Suspended.
This idiot is such a fuckin tool! If I was you Reflux I would have IP banned his bitch ass!:dunno: |
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| Insomniac |
| yeah, ban that fool |
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| REFLUX |
quote: Originally posted by lilweiner
meh nuthing better to do right now, work so boring, this is the r u bored room isnt it. I'm bashing ryan cause he took the bait..... i just like to troll to waste time, makes work go by a lil better, ........... see how pissed some get.... Fuckin love it. Keep up the entertaining me guys!!!!
I didn't see this above post of his when I suspended him, I'll take your guys' recommendation for the ban.
Banned For Trolling.
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| ~30oZ~ |
quote: Originally posted by REFLUX
I didn't see this above post of his when I suspended him, I'll take your guys' recommendation for the ban.
Banned For Trolling.
:thumbup: :beer: there, thats much better.:) |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote: Originally posted by REFLUX
I didn't see this above post of his when I suspended him, I'll take your guys' recommendation for the ban.
Banned For Trolling.
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Go, Terry! |
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