| need little help adjusting ride's height, Tein Flex, Honda Civic - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| turbocrazydsm |
haha dude that is not the way to adjust the springs lol.. that's just the bracket they sit in...
those two green lock rings that the springs sitt on can be loosened away from each other with the right tools and can be moved up and down the shock... if you don't have the tool for the rings i can lend you mine |
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| Soulfly |
Uhh.. Yeah Don't take that bolt out.. That's what actually Holds your shock/ Strut, IN.
As ^^ stated.. You need two Perch Wrenchs and you loosen the bottem one off then if you want to raise it.. start moving the top one Up more.. that will raise your height.. and lowering will Obviously.. Lower it more..
If you need a Hand.. Give me a call. :p
PM for Number.. :thumbup: |
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| element_2nice |
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Originally posted by Soulfly
Uhh.. Yeah Don't take that bolt out.. That's what actually Holds your shock/ Strut, IN.
As ^^ stated.. You need two Perch Wrenchs and you loosen the bottem one off then if you want to raise it.. start moving the top one Up more.. that will raise your height.. and lowering will Obviously.. Lower it more..
If you need a Hand.. Give me a call. :p
PM for Number.. :thumbup:
ya i do have perch wrenchs....
so jus loosen the bottem one and raise it with the top one?
thats it?
i swear there were few more steps involved
but not sure
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| Soulfly |
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Originally posted by element_2nice
ya i do have perch wrenchs....
so jus loosen the bottem one and raise it with the top one?
thats it?
i swear there were few more steps involved
but not sure
:dunno:
Yeah.. Jack it up.. Maybe take off the wheel to get at it.. But that's pretty much it.. :p
However much you move it up.. that's about how much it will Life your car... :thumbup: |
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| KAOS41 |
First off you need to stop listening to all these fucking retards Starting with soulfly he is the biggest fucking douche
to raise or lower the front:
step 1: do not touch the two rings on top they are for spring preload and have been set according to the owners manual
Step 2: loosen the bolt you are talking about
Step 3: loosen the lower collar with the wrench and turn the bottom part (watch for the mark 3 full turns = 1/4")
Step 4: tighten collar and bolt you are done
To raise lower the Rear
Step 1: Repeat from above
Step 2: on the bottom of the rear strut it makes a U shape Remove the bolt completly and pull the control arm down
Step 3:Repeat from above
Step 4: Repeat from above
Or Bring me 100 bucks and a case of MGD and I will do it for you
Lastly for all you fucking retards who don't know shit about anything stop wasting other peoples time. I know that you need to learn stuff Soulfly but learn it on your own car don't fuck up someones else cause you are to dumb to know that Tein flex is hieght adjustable with out changing the spring rate unlike your cheapass EZMS coil over kits |
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| Soulfly |
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Originally posted by KAOS41
First off you need to stop listening to all these fucking retards Starting with soulfly he is the biggest fucking douche
to raise or lower the front:
step 1: do not touch the two rings on top they are for spring preload and have been set according to the owners manual
Step 2: loosen the bolt you are talking about
Step 3: loosen the lower collar with the wrench and turn the bottom part (watch for the mark 3 full turns = 1/4")
Step 4: tighten collar and bolt you are done
To raise lower the Rear
Step 1: Repeat from above
Step 2: on the bottom of the rear strut it makes a U shape Remove the bolt completly and pull the control arm down
Step 3:Repeat from above
Step 4: Repeat from above
Or Bring me 100 bucks and a case of MGD and I will do it for you
Lastly for all you fucking retards who don't know shit about anything stop wasting other peoples time. I know that you need to learn stuff Soulfly but learn it on your own car don't fuck up someones else cause you are to dumb to know that Tein flex is hieght adjustable with out changing the spring rate unlike your cheapass EZMS coil over kits
Sorry For not Being King Shit and Knowing everything...
That's how every other kit adjust's.. Thought it'd be the same... There was No need for Calling everyone 'Fucking Retards'... It makes YOU look like the fool.
Or are you just mad cause you lost so much money on your car? |
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| KAOS41 |
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Originally posted by Soulfly
Sorry For not Being King Shit and Knowing everything...
That's how every other kit adjust's.. Thought it'd be the same... There was No need for Calling everyone 'Fucking Retards'... It makes YOU look like the fool.
Or are you just mad cause you lost so much money on your car?
I got what I needed out of my car, now if you spent a little more then 50 bucks on suspension you would know that tein flex is adjustable without touching the spring rate....now are you mad cause your a broke ass bitch? |
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| Almost2 |
Only an idiot would listen to the opinions of the guy who installed all the parts on the car.
you should listen to the tard with a Honda Tuning subscription he knows his shit. (ask him about drifting lessons) |
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| Soulfly |
Whoa.. Sorry Ballers..
I din no I hd to tak lik dis to get thru 2 u>?
n e 1 ese wnt sum driffin leson?
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| turbocrazydsm |
kinda cool how the guy who under his name says "Temporary suspension" is talkin trash about us eh soulfly haha geez...
i by the way have the tein super street damper coilovers and adjusting those rings is how the manual that came with it says to do it |
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| katrink |
Sadly your super street coil overs are not preload ajustable like the flex system is. Which is why your way of doing things is incorrect. Will what you guys are explaining ajust the ride hight the car, yes it will. But it will also reduce the ride quality. I belive Scott never actually ajusted the preload its likely set as far up as it will go anyway.
PS. look at me, posting threw a IP ban....
(NIGHTSTALKER!) |
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
quote:
Originally posted by KAOS41
First off you need to stop listening to all these fucking retards Starting with soulfly he is the biggest fucking douche
to raise or lower the front:
step 1: do not touch the two rings on top they are for spring preload and have been set according to the owners manual
Step 2: loosen the bolt you are talking about
Step 3: loosen the lower collar with the wrench and turn the bottom part (watch for the mark 3 full turns = 1/4")
Step 4: tighten collar and bolt you are done
To raise lower the Rear
Step 1: Repeat from above
Step 2: on the bottom of the rear strut it makes a U shape Remove the bolt completly and pull the control arm down
Step 3:Repeat from above
Step 4: Repeat from above
Or Bring me 100 bucks and a case of MGD and I will do it for you
Lastly for all you fucking retards who don't know shit about anything stop wasting other peoples time. I know that you need to learn stuff Soulfly but learn it on your own car don't fuck up someones else cause you are to dumb to know that Tein flex is hieght adjustable with out changing the spring rate unlike your cheapass EZMS coil over kits
wow from reading your post id think you were the douche... howabout before coming on the boards and talking shit to everyone..be a little more helpful and polite and stop calling everyone fucking retards...from an outsider you seem to be the "fucking retard"
and instead of someone learning how to do their suspension, you should probably go and learn some people skills...you stupid fuck:asshole: |
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| Can't_stop_ns |
| well they honestly have no clue what they are talking about. I love how the mods here would rather protect people from getting ther feelings hurt then have some real correct information on the messageboard. |
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| turbocrazydsm |
quote:
Originally posted by katrink
Sadly your super street coil overs are not preload ajustable like the flex system is. Which is why your way of doing things is incorrect. Will what you guys are explaining ajust the ride hight the car, yes it will. But it will also reduce the ride quality. I belive Scott never actually ajusted the preload its likely set as far up as it will go anyway.
PS. look at me, posting threw a IP ban....
(NIGHTSTALKER!)
ok well that's fair enough then... thanks for at least correcting me in a polite way.. i will know that from now on then |
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| 780Tuners |
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Originally posted by KAOS41
First off you need to stop listening to all these fucking retards Starting with soulfly he is the biggest fucking douche
Yadda yadda, yappita
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
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Originally posted by 780Tuners
Yadda yadda, yappita
hmm..zing :rolleyes: |
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
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Originally posted by Can't_stop_ns
well they honestly have no clue what they are talking about. I love how the mods here would rather protect people from getting ther feelings hurt then have some real correct information on the messageboard.
well its possible to have respect for the people you're talking to..is it not? |
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| 180kid |
| ok, to get back on focus, i have the exact same suspension as the first guy, so this helped alot, but to adjust the camber, is there anything else i need to do than adjust the bolts on top of the strut mount? |
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| Soulfly |
Ahh... I understand what KAOS41 is trying to say.. now that I've looked at it,.. and Read his instructions..
But it just didn't make sence to me why you'd have to loosen this bolt: This one
But it all makes sence now.. :thumbup: |
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| Can't_stop_ns |
Um Trevor.. they are trying to ajust the rear supsension.. not the front. ;) what you actually have to do is remove the LCA bolt and then push the LCA down and spin the whole strut assembly.
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| REFLUX |
Be more specific in your thread titles.
Remember to post what car it is in regards to, what mods you're asking about, what problems you're having, and so on. |
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| Can't_stop_ns |
| A huge part of the problem here is that they don't really seem to know what is on the car. They bought it with the parts it has in it and have no experiance with them. Which is why I am attempting to point them in the right direction.. before you guys ban me yet again. |
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| CanadianR |
Allow me to clear up some misinformation will you? I had Flexes on my Integra a few years back - they're the exact same setup - in fact they're probably the itr model if this is an EG Civic. Anyway, first off, everyone quit calling them STRUTS! The older Hondas have double wishbone suspension not f#*#ing struts:mad: .
I'll give you the correct instructions here all in one post so you don't have to search back and forth between correct and incorrect information.
For the fronts: loosen that nut you had circled in red which is for the shock fork, then turn the lower collar on the shock (not the two collars above) if you want to lower the car turn the bottom of the shock body (the green piece with Tein Flex sticker onit) to the right or higher on the shock. If you want to raise the height , do the reverse. I'm not sure about the turns to height change ratio but what was stated (3 full turns= 1/4") sounds reasonable. If you really want to be sure how much you are raising/lowering the car just measure the distance between the lower collar and the bottom of the upper collars before you start and then set the lower collar where it needs to be in relation to the upper collars (ie: if you want to lower 1/2" just turn that lower collar until it's 1/2" closer to the upper collars then turn the shock body until it's snug to the lower collar, then tighten that lower collar against the bottom with your spanner wrench)
The rear: the adjustment is the same but you will have to take the bolt out that goes through the lower control arm and through the bottom of the shock body before you can turn that bracket (green piece with Tein sticker) on the botom of the shock.
OK now to clear up some misinformation that has been previously posted.
First, many coilovers for double wishbone suspension have these brackets on the bottom to allow changes in ride height independant of spring preload. But if they don't, it doesn't mean they are necessarily low quality. For example, the Spoon N1 and Mugen RLZ coilovers (which were used by Spoon and Mugen for N1 endurance racing) do not have this feature.
Second, if you change the height of the upper collars (adjust preload) you WILL NOT affect the spring rate, unless for some reason you had progressive rate springs (which coilovers don't come with). Springs used in coilovers have a linear spring rate meaning they have the same spring rate whether they are compressed 1% or 95%. Should the spring become fully compressed it will then have an infinite spring rate. The only reason why you'd need the bracket to raise/lower ride height independant of preload is to allow alot of lowering without sacrificing suspension travel. If you have coilovers with quite shortened shock bodies this feature is not needed. |
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| element_2nice |
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Originally posted by CanadianR
Allow me to clear up some misinformation will you? I had Flexes on my Integra a few years back - they're the exact same setup - in fact they're probably the itr model if this is an EG Civic. Anyway, first off, everyone quit calling them STRUTS! The older Hondas have double wishbone suspension not f#*#ing struts:mad: .
I'll give you the correct instructions here all in one post so you don't have to search back and forth between correct and incorrect information.
For the fronts: loosen that nut you had circled in red which is for the shock fork, then turn the lower collar on the shock (not the two collars above) if you want to lower the car turn the bottom of the shock body (the green piece with Tein Flex sticker onit) to the right or higher on the shock. If you want to raise the height , do the reverse. I'm not sure about the turns to height change ratio but what was stated (3 full turns= 1/4") sounds reasonable. If you really want to be sure how much you are raising/lowering the car just measure the distance between the lower collar and the bottom of the upper collars before you start and then set the lower collar where it needs to be in relation to the upper collars (ie: if you want to lower 1/2" just turn that lower collar until it's 1/2" closer to the upper collars then turn the shock body until it's snug to the lower collar, then tighten that lower collar against the bottom with your spanner wrench)
The rear: the adjustment is the same but you will have to take the bolt out that goes through the lower control arm and through the bottom of the shock body before you can turn that bracket (green piece with Tein sticker) on the botom of the shock.
OK now to clear up some misinformation that has been previously posted.
First, many coilovers for double wishbone suspension have these brackets on the bottom to allow changes in ride height independant of spring preload. But if they don't, it doesn't mean they are necessarily low quality. For example, the Spoon N1 and Mugen RLZ coilovers (which were used by Spoon and Mugen for N1 endurance racing) do not have this feature.
Second, if you change the height of the upper collars (adjust preload) you WILL NOT affect the spring rate, unless for some reason you had progressive rate springs (which coilovers don't come with). Springs used in coilovers have a linear spring rate meaning they have the same spring rate whether they are compressed 1% or 95%. Should the spring become fully compressed it will then have an infinite spring rate. The only reason why you'd need the bracket to raise/lower ride height independant of preload is to allow alot of lowering without sacrificing suspension travel. If you have coilovers with quite shortened shock bodies this feature is not needed.
Thank u
now that was kinda information i was lookin for
cheers :) |
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| CanadianR |
no problem. If you need any more help just PM me.
I was wondering who would buy coilovers without knowing anything about them, but then saw that you bought the car with them already on it; made sense to me then:) .
BTW: technically if you change ride height you should get a wheel alignment done, but if you're only changing height a bit i wouldn't worry about it, just monitor your tires for even wear. |
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