| Inzane |
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Originally posted by ~30oZ~
LOL:lol: If my parts come in for the Z then I may...But I don't think so, I don't want to look super stupid infront a million people...
What "parts"? So what if you're stock... You've got a strong clutch in the car now. Go for it.
Its been a couple years since I've ran at the SCC but I always looked at it as a great opportunity for practice, if nothing else. 10-12 runs for ~$40-50, which is plenty, as opposed to getting only 4-5 runs for $25 at your typical street legal night. There aren't really any other drag racing venues where you can pretty much get your fill (and then some) of as many runs as you want/need.
Its a lot of fun.
If you're NOT planning to "participate" (in anything, whether drag racing, autox or show) at SCC, then you know where you should be that day Edwin. ;)
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when does the Show and shine start and end?
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| MixManMash |
| Edwin. Don't go drag racing your car now. You need to make that motor last a little longer. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by MixManMash
Edwin. Don't go drag racing your car now. You need to make that motor last a little longer.
D'oh! Forgot about that little issue. "To Obi-Wan you listen... Save you it can!" |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| I drive the car like I'm at the drag strip everyday...everyday it gets a spirited run of 3-10 strong pulls lol if you know what I mean...so i may drag it. I do have the flywheel...and the strong clutch...ahh what the hell I think i'll race it.:thumbup: |
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| MixManMash |
| Don't come crying back when you have lost all compression on that cylinder... |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by MixManMash
Don't come crying back when you have lost all compression on that cylinder...
:lol: :p you're right thou.
BTW:
The code that Jay pulled up was
*Engine coolant temp. sensor circuit*
-The Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor circuit is open or shorted (abnormally high or low voltage is registered).
you guys remember my post from a little while back about my messed up thermostat? Could this be the cause and would this cause my car to run ,essed up and ...well just really bad?
P.S There is no could 5, or 15....so Jay what was the 5? |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by ~30oZ~
[BP.S There is no could 5, or 15....so Jay what was the 5? [/B]
Now that I think about it, the '5' probably meant Code 13 was thrown 5 times since the last time your codes had been cleared. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| So is my code 13 a code I should fix right away?..does it effect the car alot in terms of daily driving, *performance*, possible damages, etc.?:dunno: |
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| vorpalz |
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Originally posted by ~30oZ~
So is my code 13 a code I should fix right away?..does it effect the car alot in terms of daily driving, *performance*, possible damages, etc.?:dunno:
That isn't a safety boost code, so your performance shouldn't be affected. Have you pulled and cleaned your temp. sensor connecter? Little yellow one right on top of the upper water pipe. Worked when I was throwing a code 13. Don't lose the wire clip retainer!
Regards, |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by ~30oZ~
So is my code 13 a code I should fix right away?..does it effect the car alot in terms of daily driving, *performance*, possible damages, etc.?:dunno:
Problems with your temp sensor can effect fuel economy and idle quality for starters.
There are a lot of parameters the ECU adjusts based on engine coolant temperature. If there is a problem with the reading such that the actual temperature differs from what the ECU *thinks* it is, there could be trouble. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| hmmm, ok thanks for the tip guys! |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
That isn't a safety boost code, so your performance shouldn't be affected. Have you pulled and cleaned your temp. sensor connecter? Little yellow one right on top of the upper water pipe. Worked when I was throwing a code 13. Don't lose the wire clip retainer!
Regards,
ok well today my car won't boost past "0" on the boost guage. and I ran codes and it gave me code 13 again, like before...I could not get a different code but 13, to clear the code do I only need to exit diagnostic mode and it will clear itself? I did that and it just gave me 13 again.:dunno: but this isn't a safety boost code right?
:help:
:mad: %@#$^%:mad: $%%^^:mad: *&^%$##:mad: :banghead: |
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| vorpalz |
| Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, we cleaned your temp sensor on Thursday, odd that it is throwing code 13 again. When you switch off the ignition it should clear out the most immediate code and give you a code 55, at least until you re-start the engine. As for not boosting past 0, something else is up. Is there a second code that follows the 13? |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, we cleaned your temp sensor on Thursday, odd that it is throwing code 13 again. When you switch off the ignition it should clear out the most immediate code and give you a code 55, at least until you re-start the engine. As for not boosting past 0, something else is up. Is there a second code that follows the 13?
nope....:( I think I'll try to run codes again.
And guess what, today when I went to start the car first thing in the morning the car started and then stalled out!:mad: |
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| vorpalz |
| Did it start again after the stalling? |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
Did it start again after the stalling?
yup. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| my car is still stuck in safety boost!!! :mad: man is the car ever super slow!...any ideas before I let the Nissan dealer rape my wallet yet again? |
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| MixManMash |
| Safety boost? 7 psi only? Or is it not getting above 0 (which means a massive boost leak / vacuum leak - which can also affect the idle). I think that there may be a few problems and not one simple one. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by MixManMash
Safety boost? 7 psi only? Or is it not getting above 0 (which means a massive boost leak / vacuum leak - which can also affect the idle). I think that there may be a few problems and not one simple one.
:eek: oh? it's not going past 0...I thought that was safety boost. The idle does sound weired, kinda like an RX-7.:dunno: and a weired noise from under the hood, kinda like an exhaust leak. (fluttering noise) |
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| MixManMash |
You are not in safety boost if it's only hitting 0. 7 psi is safety boost.
You have a huge boost leak and I wouldn't be surprised that it is affecting your idle. The fluttering noise / stalling symptom is because of the leak. The leak is probably significant enough that it is noticeable when the car is in vacuum (i.e. idle).
You need to do a boost leak test and find the leak. Chances are, if you have played with one of the four rubber hoses (turbo outlet to intercooler, intercooler out to throttle body), there is a leak somewhere there because it isn't seated properly. |
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| vorpalz |
| also check the POP charger, I tightened it after the install, but can't hurt to re-check it. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
also check the POP charger, I tightened it after the install, but can't hurt to re-check it.
It won't be that. You should be able to boost just fine without any intake filter installed at all.
But it would be worthwhile to check the MAF harness connector. If the MAF connector isn't seated properly your ECU could be in "limp mode" (not the same as safety boost).
Edwin, as a check, how high are you able to rev right now? If you can rev all the way up, and not be limited to just 2500-3000rpm then it'll be something else, not the MAF. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by Inzane
It won't be that. You should be able to boost just fine without any intake filter installed at all.
But it would be worthwhile to check the MAF harness connector. If the MAF connector isn't seated properly your ECU could be in "limp mode" (not the same as safety boost).
Edwin, as a check, how high are you able to rev right now? If you can rev all the way up, and not be limited to just 2500-3000rpm then it'll be something else, not the MAF.
there is not limit on the rev, but the first thing I noticed was the stock gague wouldn't go all the way to 7 or under boost it wouldn't go to +7 so I'm guessing it has something to do wit that...Rob and I did the boost leak test when installing the pop charger and found a very small leak from far back into the motor...I think it may have something to do with the EGR system...I may have the leak from there.:dunno: |
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| Inzane |
| First of all, you sir need an aftermarket boost gauge! :p |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by Inzane
First of all, you sir need an aftermarket boost gauge! :p
hehe.:D :p |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| ya...so I called Nissan and got them to book my car in...it goes in to the shop October 16th...:eek: :banghead: that's the longest I've ever had to wait for help from Ron. I hope snow doesn't hit.:( |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| Well, Ron was kind enough to take some time off from his work and look at my car to figure out what my car is doing so he can fix it on the 16th of october. I have a SUPER boost leak. That means the nuts holding the right side turbo to the exhaust manifold are missing and the turbo no longer has a tight seal against the manifold...causing the super boost leak. something tells me i'm going to be low on cash when I get the car back, the question is how much is it going to set me back? I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY BOOST BACK!:D :thumbup: |
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| MixManMash |
That's not a boost leak, that's a huge exhaust leak. Thank the god's that it's not a cracked manifold.
It shouldn't cost too much - but that depends on how you attack the problem. You can get at the manifold bolts with the motor in the car, painfully. It's tough but still possible. Somethings need to come out of the way though; like the battery and pre-cat. Not sure how Ron would attack this problem. |
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| vorpalz |
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Originally posted by MixManMash
You can get at the manifold bolts with the motor in the car, painfully. It's tough but still possible.
2nd on painful! However, with the precat out of the way the turbo bolts are somewhat accessible, unlike the manifold/block bolts hidden behind the turbo. I guess those miserable locking plates serve a purpose after all. Shouldn't take more than a couple of hours...:fingersx:
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| ~30oZ~ |
| LOL, Ron went on with this story about how much trouble Rob had lol, he was like "this is why I tighten them very well!" lol I'm so happy it isn't the manifold! lol and I remember Rob telling me the story too. haha:D |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| :mad: well, Ron discovered that the gasket for the turbo to the manifold has a hole in it, so he says it's not worth fixing anymore, it would cost me like $3000:eek: to pull the motor so he can get to the turbos to replace the gaskets...so I'm not paying $3000 for that, and Ron doesn't know how he would be able to do this without the motor out.:dunno: SO I'm screwed...I won't have any boost till I drop in a new motor next year...which I don't think i'll have money for next year either...well I may but I don't think so...so I have one Turbo Z32 that drives as slow as a Kia spectra...he still has the car and is going to keep it for this week incase he thinks of something. Anyone have any other Ideas for Ron?...:( |
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| MixManMash |
| If it's the passenger side turbo, then I would suggest pulling the pre-cat, remove the oil lines and drop the turbo. Should be able to drop it just enough to feed a new gasket through. I've seen it done. Not the easiest, but possible. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by MixManMash
If it's the passenger side turbo, then I would suggest pulling the pre-cat, remove the oil lines and drop the turbo. Should be able to drop it just enough to feed a new gasket through. I've seen it done. Not the easiest, but possible.
I'll let Ron know about that, I hope he doesn't object...:( any other ideas? He was thinking of taking the tranny out again and maybe go from there... |
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| MixManMash |
| Don't even need to drop the tranny to get that passenger side turbo out. |
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| Inzane |
Crappy. Because its in such an extremely high temperature zone no form of gasket maker (as a patch) would likely hold...
BTW, was the original problem of the missing bolts on one side or both sides Edwin? |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by Inzane
Crappy. Because its in such an extremely high temperature zone no form of gasket maker (as a patch) would likely hold...
BTW, was the original problem of the missing bolts on one side or both sides Edwin?
just the one side. It was the passenger side. and that's the side the gasket is shot. |
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| vorpalz |
Are you getting some downpipes? If so, pulling the pre-cats will be the first step to getting to the turbo. Re-installing with downpipes would be a much better option. Probably be an all-day affair, but with some help, it's doable. The gasket isn't expensive, either. If you were installing downpipes, I would volunteer to help you out at my place, I just don't want to have to re-install a factory pre-cat.
Well, Mash, are we up to another turbo pull? Passenger side was easier. :p
Later, |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
Are you getting some downpipes? If so, pulling the pre-cats will be the first step to getting to the turbo. Re-installing with downpipes would be a much better option. Probably be an all-day affair, but with some help, it's doable. The gasket isn't expensive, either. If you were installing downpipes, I would volunteer to help you out at my place, I just don't want to have to re-install a factory pre-cat.
Well, Mash, are we up to another turbo pull? Passenger side was easier. :p
Later,
sweet Rob! That would be great if you could help me out...Yup I would try and track down some 4 bolt downpipes...If you can help me out that would be great!
how much would I owe you?:) Why won't Ron just do it like this...he has a hoist I'm sure it would be easier for him to do it...but If he doesn't figure it out, then I would appreciate it very much if you could give me a hand...well I guess it would be me giving you a hand lol:p :D |
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| James_Z32 |
Hey Edwin. I have a set of used 4 bolt down pipes laying around. Let me now if your interested. James. :beer:
Good luck with the car. Do you have a beater car for the winter or are you planning on driving the z. Pulling the motor doesn’t take that long and I could give you a hand if you wanted. I just pulled my motor this past Sunday. Total time with 2 guys was like 5hrs to get it out and on the stand. However, I'm not sure if you have a second veh to get yourself around for the winter.
Regards James. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by James_Z32
Hey Edwin. I have a set of used 4 bolt down pipes laying around. Let me now if your interested. James. :beer:
Good luck with the car. Do you have a beater car for the winter or are you planning on driving the z. Pulling the motor doesn’t take that long and I could give you a hand if you wanted. I just pulled my motor this past Sunday. Total time with 2 guys was like 5hrs to get it out and on the stand. However, I'm not sure if you have a second veh to get yourself around for the winter.
Regards James.
Hey James, yup i have another car for winter. what kind of downpipes (brand) are they? are they off of a JDM car? I think I would rather leave the motor in the car and do the gasket install like Rob and Mahesh installed the turbos on Rob's Z. I'm very interested in the downpipes. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| I don't have a garage to work out off, that's why Rob has offered his place to me.:) |
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| MixManMash |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
Well, Mash, are we up to another turbo pull? Passenger side was easier. :p
Later,
You can count me in on it. I'll be back up on this Friday and next Friday. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
Well I got the Super Splits today! they look like they are made with great quality! I can't wait to get them on the car and have boost again!:D I wonder what the car will sound like now, I should be able to feel the change in power, no? Also I got two gaskets with them, don't I need four in total? I'm guessing the other two gaskets are really easy to come by and should be in stock at Nissan?
:thumbup: mmm boost:D
BTW: For those that haven't used Specialty Z for parts yet, They kick ass!:thumbup: Sabastian and Greg are great to deal with.:thumbup: |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by ~30oZ~
Also I got two gaskets with them, don't I need four in total?
Because you're staying with 4-bolt for now, you can re-use the gasket that sits between the turbo and downpipe. Its solid metal and doesn't need to be replaced (unless its damaged, but that's unlikely).
The gaskets you received would be the gasket that goes at the bottom of the downpipe, between the downpipe and testpipe/main-cat. |
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| MixManMash |
| Greg only sends the downpipe to cat section gasket because you can re-use the turbo to downpipe gasket. |
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