| What is the best performance bang for the buck? Mazdaspeed 6 - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Kami |
I'm running a 2006 Mazda6 with the V6. Decided not to go with the Speed6 because I wanted the versatility of the hatch.
I want to squeeze out as much performance as I can for as little cash as I can (I'm thinking no more that $1000 to start ... limiting I know).
What would you guys recommend? How much of a boost would I get with a K&N air filter? Lighter wheelset? Exhaust?
Also, of course this is way over budget, but is there an aftermarket turbo available for the V6? How much would it cost and is it worth it? Would the stock parts handle the extra power?
Thanks guys... |
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| BigTrucker |
Mazda trannies suck IMO. A ton of guys who are running turbos on their 3's are blowing trannies left and right.
The best bang for your buck would be a Cold air intake and/or cat-back exhaust. It would free up extra hp and improve your gas mileage. |
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| rythex |
Should have went with the mazdaspeed 6,
factory turbo > aftermarket modding |
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by rythex
Should have went with the mazdaspeed 6,
factory turbo > aftermarket modding
x2. |
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| Kami |
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Originally posted by Kami
Decided not to go with the Speed6 because I wanted the versatility of the hatch.
The car needs to be functional for every day use before I can turn it into a toy. I don't regret my decision. |
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| Kami |
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Originally posted by BigTrucker
Check out the Edmonton Mazda Club when you get some free time. www.edm-mazdaclub.com
I've checked them out a couple times, but every time I swing by the park on a Friday night for the meet, I don't see anyone. Maybe I'll post over on that site and see what's up. :) |
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| BigTrucker |
Ya, you gotta post and let ppl know that your going.
Your guaranteed to meet tons of ppl at the Wednesday meets at Red Robins. |
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| rythex |
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Originally posted by Kami
The car needs to be functional for every day use before I can turn it into a toy. I don't regret my decision.
Then I'd leave your car stock. ;) |
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| Thegnome |
| Hey mark, definitely do intake and exhaust first. It will make a small performance increase, but more importantly it opens doors for furture mods. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| They are sticking the turbo engine in the Mazda 3 for 2007. Should be a saucy piece of kit.:thumbup: |
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| crazyrx7 |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
They are sticking the turbo engine in the Mazda 3 for 2007. Should be a saucy piece of kit.:thumbup:
Thats for sure. I believe the dicks on the srt-4 guys just got a bit smaller. That Mazdaspeed 3 should be quicker than the neon and a lot better looking imho.
R.K. |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
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Originally posted by crazyrx7
Thats for sure. I believe the dicks on the srt-4 guys just got a bit smaller. That Mazdaspeed 3 should be quicker than the neon and a lot better looking imho.
R.K.
*looks down* nope, my dick is still the same size.
Don't forget, Mazda is known from time to time to over rate their engines. *cough*RX-8*cough* |
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| 95EagleAWD |
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Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
*looks down* nope, my dick is still the same size.
Don't forget, Mazda is known from time to time to over rate their engines. *cough*RX-8*cough*
We'll see.
It is better looking though. :lol: |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
*looks down* nope, my dick is still the same size.
Don't forget, Mazda is known from time to time to over rate their engines. *cough*RX-8*cough*
Well this engine is already out in production and making plenty of power in the 6.
Why does it always have to be a battle though? In the end it means more kick-ass performance cars for all.:thumbup: |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Well this engine is already out in production and making plenty of power in the 6.
Why does it always have to be a battle though? In the end it means more kick-ass performance cars for all.:thumbup:
because some of you guys are on this site get worked up so easily :lol:
not saying you're one of them... but there are some :thumbup:
and I agree with the more performance cars, the better |
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| No-Pistons |
| from what ive heard its the same motor as in the mazdaspeed 6 that is going to be in the speed 3 so 280 hp and 280 tq should be pretty quick |
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| Kami |
| Who changed the title of this thread? I think we've already determined that I'm not asking about the speed6, why does it say speed6? |
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| SilverZ24 |
| Nazi mods are at it again. And obviously don't read properly first... |
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| Wolfdio |
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Originally posted by No-Pistons
from what ive heard its the same motor as in the mazdaspeed 6 that is going to be in the speed 3 so 280 hp and 280 tq should be pretty quick
It's a detuned version of the engine pumpin out 263 hp and 280ft.lbs or something.
As for the actual question on what can be done to a regular mazda 6, if you go to the parts department at webermotors they have mazdaspeed accessory catalogues on cd that they give out and it should help give you some ideas..
Personally, unless the pipes look small or winding just get an air filter and muffler. The intake pipe wont yeild much bang for buck, but a nice set of headers will. :thumbup: |
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| GT34 |
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Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
Don't forget, Mazda is known from time to time to over rate their engines. *cough*RX-8*cough*
The engine isn't by any means overrated. 159ft//tq doesn't work too well with a 3000lb car. And the 236hp you don't get until 8500rpm. The engines just aren't made for that size of car and that's why the performance feels so lame.
As for the speed 6 I would have gone with it because of the AWD and turbo. You can pick up a speed 6 cheaper than a 6 hatch right now, and the 6 will have better potential for modding. And like everyone else said intake and exaust will turn into supporting mods in the future and can pick up performance without sacraficing reliability.:thumbup: |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by Wolfdio
It's a detuned version of the engine pumpin out 263 hp and 280ft.lbs or something.
As for the actual question on what can be done to a regular mazda 6, if you go to the parts department at webermotors they have mazdaspeed accessory catalogues on cd that they give out and it should help give you some ideas..
Personally, unless the pipes look small or winding just get an air filter and muffler. The intake pipe wont yeild much bang for buck, but a nice set of headers will. :thumbup:
I wouldn't really say de-tuned, more tuned in a different manner. No it doesn't make as much peak power (people will quickly change that) but it has a nice linear powerband that works better for the FWD setup. I've read a couple of articles in the past few days and it's supposed to be damn impressive. |
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| Wolfdio |
| I can see it being tuned differently, but it has a nasty torque management system that wont let you see full torque until 3rd gear... better than not having any traction though, lol |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
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Originally posted by Wolfdio
I can see it being tuned differently, but it has a nasty torque management system that wont let you see full torque until 3rd gear... better than not having any traction though, lol
traction is overrated :lol: |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by Wolfdio
I can see it being tuned differently, but it has a nasty torque management system that wont let you see full torque until 3rd gear... better than not having any traction though, lol
It's just a different kind of traction control system. Apparently it's supposed to work very well. |
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| BigTrucker |
| Your not going to see that many Speed3's around town. Mazda is only releasing 500 Canada-wide in the first production year. I think all of the ones in Alberta are already spoken for too. |
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| Wolfdio |
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Originally posted by BigTrucker
Your not going to see that many Speed3's around town. Mazda is only releasing 500 Canada-wide in the first production year. I think all of the ones in Alberta are already spoken for too.
I heard that from the weber motors dealership, maybe the speed 6 wasnt much of a seller |
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| Kami |
Well, considering this thread has already been improperly re-named, and hijacked, I might as well ask another question. $10 says a mod will decide this is inappropriate, move it into a different forum, and rename it to "where to pick up emo chicks?"
I've decided to take the advice above and look into a new CAI and exhuast. Where is the best place to get these parts in Edmonton? What brands should I be looking at? And considering I'm a newbie to the whole car world (been driving forever, rarely ever wrenched), how difficult would it be to install myself?
Also, someone else suggested looking into a multi-spark distributor. How much of a gain would I get out of one of these bad boys? Worth it?
Thanks again. |
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| No-Pistons |
| www.corksport.com has alot of parts for the mazda6 i would just order from them |
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| GT34 |
| I think if your reliability for the car is high, then sticking with a good old cold air intake and exaust. I can't find any headers for the v6 on the internet, but if you google them often you should find something. Plus check in with the dealership for stuff like that and make sure it complies with your warranty. Otherwise the 6's and 3's already have awesome suspensions so they will take well to suspension upgrades. With mods like that it won't effect reliability and if anything will improve fuel economy and up the zoom zoom. |
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| No-Pistons |
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Originally posted by GT34
I think if your reliability for the car is high, then sticking with a good old cold air intake and exaust. I can't find any headers for the v6 on the internet, but if you google them often you should find something. Plus check in with the dealership for stuff like that and make sure it complies with your warranty. Otherwise the 6's and 3's already have awesome suspensions so they will take well to suspension upgrades. With mods like that it won't effect reliability and if anything will improve fuel economy and up the zoom zoom.
corksport sells headers for the v6 |
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| GT34 |
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Originally posted by No-Pistons
corksport sells headers for the v6
Nope, not for the 6 v6. Only for the 4cyl. Unless the headers from the mx6 will fit. There's a chip on there for the 6 that should do well with those supporting mods.:thumbup:
If only that speed3 was awd and not a hatchback. I'd be there with my diposit. But still, it's the fastest fwd import on the market with nothing to contend with. |
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| No-Pistons |
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Originally posted by GT34
Nope, not for the 6 v6. Only for the 4cyl. Unless the headers from the mx6 will fit. There's a chip on there for the 6 that should do well with those supporting mods.:thumbup:
If only that speed3 was awd and not a hatchback. I'd be there with my diposit. But still, it's the fastest fwd import on the market with nothing to contend with.
thats realy werid i sware they used to have them for the v6 not the i4 |
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| BigTrucker |
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Originally posted by GT34
If only that speed3 was awd and not a hatchback. I'd be there with my diposit. But still, it's the fastest fwd import on the market with nothing to contend with. [/B]
I can hardly wait to see some Speed3 and SRT4 grudge matches down at Castrol. |
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| SilviaDrifter |
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Originally posted by GT34
The engine isn't by any means overrated. 159ft//tq doesn't work too well with a 3000lb car. And the 236hp you don't get until 8500rpm. The engines just aren't made for that size of car and that's why the performance feels so lame.
As for the speed 6 I would have gone with it because of the AWD and turbo. You can pick up a speed 6 cheaper than a 6 hatch right now, and the 6 will have better potential for modding. And like everyone else said intake and exaust will turn into supporting mods in the future and can pick up performance without sacraficing reliability.:thumbup:
the rx-8 engine did not come with 236 hp and 159 torque from factory or else it would be putting down 182 hp to the wheels in a dynojet....and yes it was over rated from factory |
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| GT34 |
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Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
the rx-8 engine did not come with 236 hp and 159 torque from factory or else it would be putting down 182 hp to the wheels in a dynojet....and yes it was over rated from factory
Hey genius, try searching before you open your big mouth. http://www.mazda.ca/root.asp and click on the rx8.
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| Soulfly |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GT34
[B]Hey genius, try searching before you open your big mouth. http://www.mazda.ca/root.asp and click on the rx8.
uhh.. Respect the post count.. :P
anyway.. It was 232... for all who don't wanna Click the link.. and BTW.. It's not even 232..
It says: "UP TO 232HP @ 8500RPM"
And I quoted that.
So.. There you have it.. :p |
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| GT34 |
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Originally posted by Soulfly
uhh.. Respect the post count[/B]
No.
It's been said that the renisis engine is overrated. I'm saying that it's not. Others may disagree. Mazda claims it comes with 232 at the flywheel and you're saying...
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Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
the rx-8 engine did not come with 236 hp and 159 torque from factory or else it would be putting down 182 hp to the wheels in a dynojet....and yes it was over rated from factory
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So if about 20% of hp is lost through the driveline, then isn't 80% of 232bhp, 186hp? And in the graph in that link, it says the renisis is putting out 182hp. So then it's not overrated, and I don't see what the problem is.
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Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
u shut the fuck up before u talk and try owning a rotary before u even talk about them
I don't see what that has to do with anything.
On a side note I guess I was a little harsh with my posts.
Sorry dude you can have your thread back now. |
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