| deuceswild_2 |
i hear these are the best speakers to get so i would like to try to get some for my ride........
i guss i would be needing a pair of 6.5's in the doors as well as tweeters.....
also i would need 6x9's in the rear...
they must be used...
anyone got any?
thanx.
EDIT: Also interested in MB Quart and Infinit Speakers :thumbup: |
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| Soulfly |
uhh...
MB Quart?
Maybe Infinity?? go listen to some speakers..
Don't Just bais it on what you Hear... you'll end up not liking something... :p
and Maybe come listen to My system on friday or something.. Bring your kind of music..
I'll tell you what kinda stuff I have AFTER you listen.. :lol: |
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| deuceswild_2 |
i have heard infinity but never heard of mb quart...
i have heard lotsa systmes, i have a full alpine system in one of my cars and i love it i just have known that the best that i have heard is Infinity, these Focal's, and Boss...
but ya i'd be interested in anything that is TOP of the line, thanx. |
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| Soulfly |
MB Quarts Sound Pretty fucking devistating...
'Altezza' Will Chime In about it..
They are Pricey, But From what I've Heard from People, And Heard Personally... they sound Killer...
Pornography for the Tympanum!@ :lol:
BTW.. I'm not so.. Keen on Focal, As My mom has a Set in her car... Cost $2,000... way back in the day.. and.. They don't sound anywere NEAR what Mine sound like..
SO.. Untill I hear something Different.. My opinion Will, Infact, Stay the same. |
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| jizzajamers |
focal was a good quality speaker, but they were very pricey like soulfly said..
my friend bought a pair of 6.5's, and they sounded great... but he paid 900 bucks for them.. |
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| deuceswild_2 |
yes, i've heard how much they are and it is wild!
Soulfly, in your own opinion what do you think is the best?
I guess this can go out to everyone else.......
to everyone else: in your own opinion what do you think is the best sounding speaker?
i appreciate your opinion, thanx.
ps: this thread has turned into a WTB: focal, MB, or Infinity speaker thread, haha. |
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| Soulfly |
Since you asked... I'm Running Infinity 2-Way's all for corners. And a Kicker 10" L5. Infinity's are Ampped.. 6.5" fronts 6x9's in the back.
I feel infinity's Sound REALLY Nice, But.. I Was Listening to some Rockfords With the Two Tweaters Per Tweater, and those Sounded NICE and Crisp!
The Next thing I would do, If anything, Would be to add another tweeter up by the A-Pillar
I reccomend Some Of the Higher Brand Infinity's.. :thumbup: |
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| deuceswild_2 |
| awesome thanx...........inbox has been emptied |
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| dogstar |
if you want some good qualty speakers, you might want to give these guys a shout.
SOLEN online
Canadian based, and they sell a LOT of really nice stuff.
seas, scan-speak, vifa... high end european brands.
for a pure recommendation,
Focal is nice, i would definitely demo it before dropping the cash.
MB Quart is great, but also quite pricy.
Alpine Type X comps are GREAT.... visions has some on sale last i saw.
oh damn... lol, the list goes on, just depends how much you wanna spend, and how long you are willing to wait. |
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| Imbroglio |
You won't be looking at anything close to "the best" with the setup you're describing. You can get adequate coaxial speakers for your application without breaking the bank. There's no need to spend more money than you have to in order to achieve the performance you desire. First off, high fidelity sound is about installation more than raw drivers and processing. If you're going to just utilize stock speaker locations and change out OEM drivers for coaxial aftermarket bits then there's no point in buying a high end component set. You can put Focal Utopias in stock locations in your ride and I could make Jenson Walmart speakers sound better with a little bit of work and a grand in my pocket. What you should be asking is (a) How much money do I have to spend? (b) What are my musical preferences? What aspect of the sound is most important? (c) Am I going to upgrade in the future?
There is more misinformation and bullshit flying around in the car audio realm than most anywhere, and it takes research and time to discern who's talking out their ass and who's not.
You want high end speakers? Prepare to pay high end prices. Take a look at Seas Lotus, Scanspeak Revalators, Alpine F1 (which are rebadged Revalators with an impressive passive crossover). Something different? Try Image Dynamics horn loaded compression drivers (peizo tweeters in a horn body - full bodies can go up to 2khz)Off the beaten path, take a look at XBL^2 drivers from Resonant Engineering or Adire Audio. Then comes amplification and processing, not to mention installation costs. You can spend twice as much as you spent on your car on high fidelity audio, be specific in what you want. It'll be easier to help you and you won't have to deal with answers like "my buddies Jimmy pounds, get what he's got" or "my friend went to future shop and said underpowering speakers blows them, so put as much power as you can to your shit" |
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| Ravendarat |
quote:
Originally posted by Imbroglio
You won't be looking at anything close to "the best" with the setup you're describing. You can get adequate coaxial speakers for your application without breaking the bank. There's no need to spend more money than you have to in order to achieve the performance you desire. First off, high fidelity sound is about installation more than raw drivers and processing. If you're going to just utilize stock speaker locations and change out OEM drivers for coaxial aftermarket bits then there's no point in buying a high end component set. You can put Focal Utopias in stock locations in your ride and I could make Jenson Walmart speakers sound better with a little bit of work and a grand in my pocket. What you should be asking is (a) How much money do I have to spend? (b) What are my musical preferences? What aspect of the sound is most important? (c) Am I going to upgrade in the future?
There is more misinformation and bullshit flying around in the car audio realm than most anywhere, and it takes research and time to discern who's talking out their ass and who's not.
You want high end speakers? Prepare to pay high end prices. Take a look at Seas Lotus, Scanspeak Revalators, Alpine F1 (which are rebadged Revalators with an impressive passive crossover). Something different? Try Image Dynamics horn loaded compression drivers (peizo tweeters in a horn body - full bodies can go up to 2khz)Off the beaten path, take a look at XBL^2 drivers from Resonant Engineering or Adire Audio. Then comes amplification and processing, not to mention installation costs. You can spend twice as much as you spent on your car on high fidelity audio, be specific in what you want. It'll be easier to help you and you won't have to deal with answers like "my buddies Jimmy pounds, get what he's got" or "my friend went to future shop and said underpowering speakers blows them, so put as much power as you can to your shit"
So are you saying people from Future Shop doesnt know what they are talking about. As for speakers, I dont have anything left to sell anymore, to bad I didnt see this about a month ago. MB Quart is a 2 stage brand now, you can get the stuff thats still made in Germany and the Stuff from China. The shit from China is just a decent speaker with a higher end badge. The stuff from Germany is really nice but is bright so listen before you buy. Same goes with Infinity. They are a bright speaker but can sound nice with some decent power. Focal is a softer speaker than the other two mentioned, and in most instances is a step up over Infinity. Boston is another company you might wanna look at if you like the sound of Focal. The older Boston Pro 6.5 is a great set of speakers and can be had for not a bad price off of Flee Bay. |
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| Imbroglio |
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Originally posted by Ravendarat
So are you saying people from Future Shop doesnt know what they are talking about. As for speakers, I dont have anything left to sell anymore, to bad I didnt see this about a month ago. MB Quart is a 2 stage brand now, you can get the stuff thats still made in Germany and the Stuff from China. The shit from China is just a decent speaker with a higher end badge. The stuff from Germany is really nice but is bright so listen before you buy. Same goes with Infinity. They are a bright speaker but can sound nice with some decent power. Focal is a softer speaker than the other two mentioned, and in most instances is a step up over Infinity. Boston is another company you might wanna look at if you like the sound of Focal. The older Boston Pro 6.5 is a great set of speakers and can be had for not a bad price off of Flee Bay.
Out of all that was said, you come away with that as a conclusion? There are some installers in Future Shops that have their First class and up MECP, and I'm sure there are some sales people that know something, although to be honest I've yet to experience one. That's not to say that they don't exist, though.
For deuceswild, his best bet would be to simply listen to his favourite music on a very high fidelity home audio system. Take note of how it sounds, then go listen to as many speakers as you can, then decide. In the end they're your ears that are listening. My opinion on high fidelity may differ from yours, just as an IASCA SQ judge's may differ from yours. Take your time and do your research, you'll thank yourself in the end. |
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| SilverZ24 |
| If you are looking for good sq listen to some Diamond Audio speakers. A little bit cheaper than focal and still sound really impressive. Infinity is okay, but it is a lower end speaker for sure. And I did have infinitys before, but the Diamond Audio seperates blow them away. I put the Infinitys into my parents car. Good upgrade over stock, but that is about it. If price is an issue though, DA might be too much, but you do get what you pay for. :thumbup: |
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| Ravendarat |
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Originally posted by Imbroglio
Out of all that was said, you come away with that as a conclusion? There are some installers in Future Shops that have their First class and up MECP, and I'm sure there are some sales people that know something, although to be honest I've yet to experience one. That's not to say that they don't exist, though.
For deuceswild, his best bet would be to simply listen to his favourite music on a very high fidelity home audio system. Take note of how it sounds, then go listen to as many speakers as you can, then decide. In the end they're your ears that are listening. My opinion on high fidelity may differ from yours, just as an IASCA SQ judge's may differ from yours. Take your time and do your research, you'll thank yourself in the end.
Dude it was the last thing in your whole post so it was easy to pick out, plus I was just jabbing at ya a little bit. I do agree with exactly what you said and I have been giving people the exact same advice as what you said for the last 5 years or so. One High end brand you did forget was Rainbow, that shit will blow most people away, However sound is very personal and just because I play you a track on a set of $160,000 ATC speakers powered by a pair of Griffens, if you dont like the way it sounds than it aint worth shit to you. |
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| deuceswild_2 |
price is not the issue at the moment, i just heard that Focal was the best and i wanted to see what everyone else had to say about it thats all...
i honestly would just like to purchase the best sounding speaker out there haha, and up until about a month ago i thought Bose was the best haha...
i know that im definitely not big on rockford or kicker haha. i like my alpine's fine...i just know they aren't the best i could have haha.
i am prepared to wait as long as it takes, i don't need these ASAP...
i want something that doesnt pound and sound cheap, anyone can make sumthing pound, i can take a ride in a cab and be hammered out of my face and still tell that is speakers suck ahha, i want my stereo to be loud and crisp so taht when i roll my windows down people a block down can make out the lyrics to the song that is playing haha.
so waht your saying is for me to change my stock speaker locations Imbroglio?
and yes i have heard of the name Boston, but didn't know of their quality, also i dont just want a speaker that every cheap ass has, sure i dont wanna over pay but i dont wanna underpay and get shit and not get the best...
k so to re-cap...Diamond Audo, Rainbow, and Boston are other brands i should consider as well as take Imbroglio advice and check out Solen online.
and wat is this Alpine F1?? never heard of that, i thouht type-x was the best:dunno: |
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| -the.k.w.c- |
you do not need focals the only reason people buy that stuff is cause the name and the cost they can say they own a 1000$ pair of speakers if u want good speakers and a mid class price go with the alpine type Rs or S,s or the mb Q's you could even go with some jl audio or rockfored power seriese i have the rockford punch components in my 240 i amped them to 70 watts and there the best set of speakers i have owned i used to have type s compenents but moved to the rockfords u will not need anything super high end for anything but competitions if u amp any speaker it will sound 100 times better then a nother guy with high end shit running of a deck and you with save huge coin so u can buy more speakers and blow his shit away lol
oh ya i work at future shop and i know my shit so go with something u can afford man and buy a 4 ch amp to pound those babies
i thing a place called Ma audio down by grant mac sells focals even some used stuff im not sure if that the name of the shop but its something like that |
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| dogstar |
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Originally posted by deuceswild_2
price is not the issue at the moment, i just heard that Focal was the best and i wanted to see what everyone else had to say about it thats all...
i honestly would just like to purchase the best sounding speaker out there haha, and up until about a month ago i thought Bose was the best haha...
i know that im definitely not big on rockford or kicker haha. i like my alpine's fine...i just know they aren't the best i could have haha.
i am prepared to wait as long as it takes, i don't need these ASAP...
i want something that doesnt pound and sound cheap, anyone can make sumthing pound, i can take a ride in a cab and be hammered out of my face and still tell that is speakers suck ahha, i want my stereo to be loud and crisp so taht when i roll my windows down people a block down can make out the lyrics to the song that is playing haha.
so waht your saying is for me to change my stock speaker locations Imbroglio?
and yes i have heard of the name Boston, but didn't know of their quality, also i dont just want a speaker that every cheap ass has, sure i dont wanna over pay but i dont wanna underpay and get shit and not get the best...
k so to re-cap...Diamond Audo, Rainbow, and Boston are other brands i should consider as well as take Imbroglio advice and check out Solen online.
and wat is this Alpine F1?? never heard of that, i thouht type-x was the best:dunno:
F#1 status.... its much money...
http://www.alpinef1status.com/e/pro...s/spx-z18t.html
it also sounds real damn good, very difficult to find as i dont believe there are any F1 status dealers in alberta. (correct me if im wrong)
however, as mentioned above, the alpine F1 status stuff is rebadged scan-speak revelators.
this doesnt by any means, mean that its bad.
if you want the best, your going to have a hard time demoing it in edmonton unless you can find people who own the stuff you want.
most of our local dealers think Type R alpine stuff is "the shiiiiznit!"
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i suggested you check out solen, and i suggest it again...ask them what they recommend, im quite sure they would be happy to sell you some speakers.
http://www.solen.ca/
also check out
http://www.zalytron.com/
http://www.madisound.com/
and last but definitely not least, spend some time on audio forums,
http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/index.php?
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/index.php
http://www.icixsound.com/vb/index.php?
ask people what they would suggest and youll get a thousand opinions, but at least its a place to start.
once you start getting ideas of what people consider "the best" you can filter out the low end stuff like fosgate, jl or infinity.
you sound like your willing to spend what it takes to get what you want, and thats a good start, as youll find that most of the really good gear is very pricy compared to average stuff. for example, a set of alpine type X comps is around $450, a set of F1 is around $2500 last time i saw a price tag. |
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| Ravendarat |
| The closest Alpine F#1 dealer I know of is in Winnipeg. Im guessing there is someone in BC somewhere but I dont know who and I know for sure there is no one in Sask. |
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| -the.k.w.c- |
| any place that sells alpine will be able to order the f1 speakers ie visions |
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| Ravendarat |
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Originally posted by -the.k.w.c-
any place that sells alpine will be able to order the f1 speakers ie visions
Not unless Alpine changed their stance in the last 2 years. It used to be that only Authorized Alpine Status F #1 dealers could order it. Regular Alpine dealers are locked off of the gear as they only want them to be handled by what they feel are the finest shops out their. Visions is not considered elite so they were locked off. And dont take that the wrong way, I have no problem with Visions and most of what I have seen in this City is fairly good work, but they are a chain and in the past Chains were always locked off of this gear. |
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| deuceswild_2 |
thanx guys! i will check out those sites!
where is the Alpine F1 dealer in the peg?! |
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| -the.k.w.c- |
| i have used alpine type s's if u want 6.5 inches 100$;) |
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| blackdragon |
Hey i dont know about used speakers but i can get
you brand new MB QUARTS
Full package will show you pics
for 800.00 brand new in the box Installed!!!!
These are the Specs:
260 WATTS TOTAL RMS (Peak is about 4 time higher than RMS)
130 Watts RMS Each
6.5"
Made in Germany
Tweeter can be mounted in speaker or in car
pair high end Mid-bass drivers
Polypropylene woofer cone
Injection molded magnets
3/4" high end pair of powerful tweeters
2-piece titanium dome tweeter system
Metal housings
Neodymium magnets
ferro-fluid cooling
Flush and surface mounting hardware included
Tweeter diameter: 1.38"
High End Crossover networks
3-level tweeter control through crossover
High current protection ensures the tweeters can not be blown easily
Gold-plated wire terminals
Frequency Response: 38-32,000 Hz
Impedance: 4 ohms
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| deuceswild_2 |
blackdragon, i would have to hear them first.....
the k.w.c., didn't you have a for sale thread a while ago with some alpine stuff for sale? if so please get back to me, and yes i am semi-interested coz i already have an alpine type-s sub and box as well as 6x9 type-r's in the rear so i do need door speakers haha:thumbup: |
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| blackdragon |
Hey sorry they are in the box and if you are interested in type r speaker
components let me know i can get those
and i can also get brand new focal as well thanks!!:thumbup:
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blackdragon, i would have to hear them first.....
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| deuceswild_2 |
| the k.w.c, ill give ya 75 for the speakers:thumbup: |
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| ~30oZ~ |
| -the.k.w.c-: don't you sell MB at Futureshop? is it still the good stuff from MB? |
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| -the.k.w.c- |
| ya man its not there low stuff but its not there super super high stuff the mbs we have at future shop are freaken sweet speakers clean clear and easy on the eyes |
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