| dc2696 |
| I was just wondering how hard is it to get an Ae86 here, I've never seen any around on the street (i don't think) but I know a few guys here have em'. And are they worth it, like do they have any serious problems? |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| I see alot of the 85-86 corolla hatch sr5-gts kicking around ..... some that are doneup and driven by younguns and some by their original owners ....are you talking straight out of japan type ....they dont have many there because of polution and age restrictions . depends you can find something nice here and swap a 16v in it |
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| HJr |
they are really cool cars. Usually go for around $3000 for a corolla GTS (AE86 in north america) BUT they are lacking one very important item for the canadain market. NO LSD. But there is a 1.6l 16v engine that revs to the sky.
FYI-the JDM engine is a 20v. or was it, now im questioning myself. oh well. if im wrong somebody will point it out. edit-thanks jeff. thats a late model corolla engine. my bad. |
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| HJr |
| edit-deleted cause i was wrong. appearanly the SR-5 IS an AE86 cause of the suspension and interior. but its still a piece of shit car. |
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| HJr |
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Originally posted by TyPhOOnSliPPerY@Apr 15 2003, 11:33 AM
I see alot of the 85-86 corolla hatch sr5-gts kicking around ..... some that are doneup and driven by younguns and some by their original owners ....are you talking straight out of japan type ....they dont have many there because of polution and age restrictions . depends you can find something nice here and swap a 16v in it
ok, i was reading your post again and im not sure that you know a damn thing about what your talking about...
also- 85 to 87 was the years. |
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| GTS Jeff |
actually ure all incredibly wrong haha.....first off, ae86 is a chassis code for the 84-87 sprinter trueno in japan and the 85-87 corolla sr5 and gts in north america. the sr5 is still called an ae86 even tho its got ae85 suspension and interior....the sr5 has a sohc carbed 1.6L engine that is not found in japan. the corolla gts here uses the 4age, a 16v dohc engine that revs like hell...its called the bluetop and its the exact same engine as in japan, except that the j-spec engines have different ecu (tuned for an extra 20hp) and the jdm bluetops use a map system instead of afm to measure intake charge. the 20V 4age that everyone loves is found in the newer ae92s and is a FWD engine which does not fit easily into an ae86 without modification.
and now that weve set these things straight, ill answer the original post. yes, there are a bunch of ae86 enthusiasts in edmonton; i personally know 6 others. i see them on the streets all the time, but thats cuz once u start driving a car, u notice all the other ones on the road.
as for whether the car is worth it or not...well its cheap initially...cuz u can spend 2 grand and ull have a balanced, rwd pocket rocket that can eat up civic si's, drift easily, and its also THE FUNNEST CAR IVE EVER DRIVEN. however, an ae86 is far from cheap to maintain. dont forget that these cars are close to 20 years old now and tons of shit needs to be worked on....i have personally spent over $2000 on my car in the 5 months that ive owned it, just to keep it going. right now, i have a HUGE list of problems that i still need to fix. for example, right now im running on 3 cylinders and ive been diagnosing that problem for the last few days. bottom line, the car is not cheap to own cuz of all the shit that needs fixing, but if u like the car as much as all the other ae86enthusiasts, its totally worth it. |
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| HJr |
| ohhh geezzzz. well, you heard it from the master. damn me and getting my years and motors mixed up. but at least i wasnt TOTALLY wrong. :P |
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| redbaron303 |
| Damn Jeff... you must own one of those :D :bigthumbup: |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by HJr@Apr 15 2003, 12:04 PM
they are really cool cars.
What's cool about them? |
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| redbaron303 |
| Jason... check out intial D and you'll learn.. .ahhahahahahahahaha :D |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by redbaron303@Apr 15 2003, 04:51 PM
Jason... check out intial D and you'll learn.. .ahhahahahahahahaha :D
Ah... I knew someone would bring that up. I haven't seen it. :P |
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| redbaron303 |
| psssssst.... nudge nudge... download it off kazaa.... I managed to watch most of it w/ chinese subtitles and spoken japanese... so I don't understand the story to well, but it's a cool show :) |
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| GTS Jeff |
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Originally posted by Inzane@Apr 15 2003, 04:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HJr@Apr 15 2003, 12:04 PM
they are really cool cars.
What's cool about them?
read my previous post dammit. |
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| Dr. Lightspeed |
| I know a guy who is selling his wants 2k and it has had the jdm conversion. They are fun if you are really into it there is a ton of aftermarket parts not hard to make 250plus out of them and still NA. Lots of fun to drive. |
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| PraxRX7 |
| LoL I have the whole series, MOVIE NIGHT!!!!!!!! lol |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
yeah i havent watched it for quite a while .....
and yeah corollas are alot to maintain ....but are fu nto drive .. still looking for one |
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| dc2696 |
| exactly how high is the redline? |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| 49000rpm |
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| dc2696 |
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Lightspeed@Apr 15 2003, 09:56 PM
I know a guy who is selling his wants 2k and it has had the jdm conversion. They are fun if you are really into it there is a ton of aftermarket parts not hard to make 250plus out of them and still NA. Lots of fun to drive.
Can u give me a little more info specific to his car cuz dam I want one. thanx for all the info guys :D :bigthumbup: |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Apr 16 2003, 09:46 AM
49000rpm
some reason i don't think so :o :D 8g's right? |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by dc2696@Apr 16 2003, 04:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Apr 16 2003, 09:46 AM
49000rpm
some reason i don't think so :o :D 8g's right?
isnt it a bit higher? :D |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| post some pictures ... no beyond account here |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R@Apr 15 2003, 09:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane@Apr 15 2003, 04:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HJr@Apr 15 2003, 12:04 PM
they are really cool cars.
What's cool about them?
read my previous post dammit.
I DID!! :o
And you haven't said anything that would make me want to trade any of my current cars, or previous ones, to get one of those. :P |
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| takayuki |
| the redline for the 4age is 7450rpms.. the fuel cuts off at 8000rpm... ae86's are definitely fun cars to drive. i've owned one b4. Generally, they are reliable cars. If i had a chance to get another one i will... but gotta concentrate on my current car... if you are looking to run the 1/4 mile in the ae86, its not the car your looking for. its quick, but not very fast. |
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| GTS Jeff |
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Originally posted by Inzane@Apr 16 2003, 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R@Apr 15 2003, 09:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane@Apr 15 2003, 04:42 PM
[quote]Originally posted by HJr@Apr 15 2003, 12:04 PM
[b] they are really cool cars.
What's cool about them?
read my previous post dammit.
I DID!! :o
And you haven't said anything that would make me want to trade any of my current cars, or previous ones, to get one of those. :P [/b][/quote]
well its hard to describe in words, but basically they make u feel like ure going a lot faster tha u actually are...so even going 60 feels like 90, and faster = fun
theyre also predictable in drifts and the sounds of hte 4a-ge is unmatched by any NA 4 banger... |
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| Loose |
I've driven a couple and they were a nice light rwd car. The handle ok, but it all depends on what you are used to. If you are used to your mom's Celeberty, then maybe you think it is the greatest handling car ever. If your used to well set up rwd sports cars, it's nothing special, infact is sucks. They are nimble, but don't have the high speed stability or outright grip that I like. But that is just my opinion.....
Bottom line... :bigthumbup: For the 86, if you are on a really restricted budget, and are willing to get deal with an old car like Jeff explained above.
PS. Initial D is just a cartoon.:wtf:
PPS. Too bad our roads aren't all downhill (AE86 wet dream) :thefinger:
PPPS. Dr Lightspeed, please explain how it is "not hard to make 250plus out of them and still NA". Don't tell me you saw it in cartoon! :gay:
(this is my A-hole post of the month. I feel better now :)) |
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| SeventhKevin |
| yeah, these cars are wicked little cars.. My Friend bought one last year, this old women was selling it down the street from us, 86k's on it too.. wanted 1g, gave her 800 and drove the shit out of it! my friend redlined it like every chance he got and it hauled off the line.. and he was a big guy, hahaha.. that car was pimped. |
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| GTS Jeff |
quote:
Originally posted by Loose@Apr 17 2003, 07:53 AM
I've driven a couple and they were a nice light rwd car. The handle ok, but it all depends on what you are used to. If you are used to your mom's Celeberty, then maybe you think it is the greatest handling car ever. If your used to well set up rwd sports cars, it's nothing special, infact is sucks. They are nimble, but don't have the high speed stability or outright grip that I like. But that is just my opinion.....
Bottom line... :bigthumbup: For the 86, if you are on a really restricted budget, and are willing to get deal with an old car like Jeff explained above.
PS. Initial D is just a cartoon.:wtf:
PPS. Too bad our roads aren't all downhill (AE86 wet dream) :thefinger:
PPPS. Dr Lightspeed, please explain how it is "not hard to make 250plus out of them and still NA". Don't tell me you saw it in cartoon! :gay:
(this is my A-hole post of the month. I feel better now :))
haha yea my car handles liek SHIT...but mainly cuz its old...given som etime ill make it handle well...right now the bushings are old, shocks are busted and chassis is weak as ever....
ahaha and yea i want dr lightspeed to explain how i can get 250hp out of a 4age....the bluetop can barely handle its stock hp (112) as my blown up one has shown... |
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| RallyCivic |
Im not sure, someone told me one
doesnt the firt gen MR2 non supercharged use the same engine as the gt-s tofu driver? :D (corrola) |
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| got_ae86 |
| You're correct. They have the same engine code, 4age, but they are mounted different. The MR2 supercharged engine, 4agze, sits nicely in the engine bay for the Corolla too. |
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| Tsunami |
If you are looking for an ae86 just give me an email... I found about a dozen 86's for my friends and car clubs over the last 18 months. Your on DK as well right?
gts_r@hotmail.com |
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| GTS Jeff |
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Originally posted by RallyCivic@Apr 18 2003, 09:10 AM
Im not sure, someone told me one
doesnt the firt gen MR2 non supercharged use the same engine as the gt-s tofu driver? :D (corrola)
na aw11 and ae86 corolla gts both use the bluetop 4a-ge...112hp...and a fuckin shitty and weak engine at that. |
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| ClubEL (AzNBonD) |
You guys think an AE86 would drive well in terms of AutoXing?
The reason I ask is because I'm planning on taking on a project AE86 (which i can get for really cheap). Only thing is that the oil pan needs to be changes, new hood, and rust detail. (damn AE86's bleed rust) |
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| GTS Jeff |
quote:
Originally posted by ClubEL (AzNBonD)@Apr 19 2003, 01:57 AM
You guys think an AE86 would drive well in terms of AutoXing?
The reason I ask is because I'm planning on taking on a project AE86 (which i can get for really cheap). Only thing is that the oil pan needs to be changes, new hood, and rust detail. (damn AE86's bleed rust)
its the perfect autoX car cuz of the gearing, peaky engine, lightness, rwd, near perfect weight distribution, and communicative chassis. however, a stock 18 year old car with blown shocks and whatnot dont make a good autoX car, so u need to do a bunch of work with the suspension before u can autoX well.. |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R@Apr 19 2003, 08:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ClubEL (AzNBonD)@Apr 19 2003, 01:57 AM
You guys think an AE86 would drive well in terms of AutoXing?
The reason I ask is because I'm planning on taking on a project AE86 (which i can get for really cheap). Only thing is that the oil pan needs to be changes, new hood, and rust detail. (damn AE86's bleed rust)
its the perfect autoX car cuz of the gearing, peaky engine, lightness, rwd, near perfect weight distribution, and communicative chassis. however, a stock 18 year old car with blown shocks and whatnot dont make a good autoX car, so u need to do a bunch of work with the suspension before u can autoX well..
Or city driving even.... :) Twisty roads it likes.... but it can't stay w/ the Turbo II rx7... hahaha :) That was a good cruise... 3 cylinders and the ae86 still moves pretty good considering all things :) If it drives like that on the roads I would really like to see it autox! Should be pretty darn good car :) B) |
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| ClubEL (AzNBonD) |
hmm.....
what's the support for that kinda car? i wouldn't want to spend an awful lot on it considering i need to pay tuition. But i'm willing to get a decent set of springs, kyb agx, strut + sway bars. and a decent set of tires.
What's the bolt pattern on the AE86?
Think an AE86 with a bit of body damage and oil leak is worth paying $400-600 for? maybe more maybe less. |
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| ClubEL (AzNBonD) |
| kool color.... the lower sides need to be painted black and have a strip along the side... then it'll be the initial D trueno!! |
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| GTS Jeff |
quote:
Originally posted by ClubEL (AzNBonD)@Apr 19 2003, 01:14 PM
hmm.....
what's the support for that kinda car? i wouldn't want to spend an awful lot on it considering i need to pay tuition. But i'm willing to get a decent set of springs, kyb agx, strut + sway bars. and a decent set of tires.
What's the bolt pattern on the AE86?
Think an AE86 with a bit of body damage and oil leak is worth paying $400-600 for? maybe more maybe less.
support for the ae86 is sorta sucky. it boils down to two ways to mod a corolla...
1. jdm (super expensive)...theres a HUGE aftermarket following for the car, but its all in japan. pretty much everything cool u want is from japan, and therefore uber expensive.
2. custom (ghetto cheap)...corolla drivers are cheap by nature, so theres a lot of knowledge out there on how to ghetto-mod a corolla...stuff like afm modification, egr removal, using mark2 supra rims, afm plate+cone filter as intake, custom straight pipe exhaust....stuff like that. theres a ton of info on the net on ghetto-modding an ae86.
suspension on the corolla is sorta hard to modify, mac struts on the front and panhard rod suspension on the rear...i actually dont totally understand suspension tuning on the car.
the bolt pattern on corollas is 4x114.3. proper offset is 0. ideal rim size for drifting is 14", autox is 13", and if u wana go big, 15 is as big as practical.....getting ncie rims for the car are REALLY expensive...cuz all the nice rims (watanabe, ssr, etc) are either not in production, in japan, or really rare....and ppl that do own these rims want to hold on to them cuz they are so hard to find.
as for the deal on the car, if all thats wrong with it is minor body damage and oil leak, then yea for sure go for it... |
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| got_ae86 |
Hey Jeff,
I wouldn't say that the aftermarket support for an AE86 isn't there but it's growing. Before I couldn't find anything for my car but now that I know more people and shops it's pretty easy to find something for our cars. If anyone needs help with an 86 let me know. Hhehehehe. |
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| three.eighteen. |
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Originally posted by ClubEL (AzNBonD)@Apr 19 2003, 01:14 PM
Think an AE86 with a bit of body damage and oil leak is worth paying $400-600 for? maybe more maybe less.
yes, if youre willing to put up with body repair, and countless other things that could go wrong, and above all, compression test!!! :P |
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