| Bad Egg |
I must admit I am not the most patient person in the world, I would rather go home than have to wait in a line-up for just about anything. One of my pet peeves reared up again this weekend when I did a bit of travelling and listened to the flight attendants do their standard spiel about no-smoking/seatbelts use/oxygen masks/blah freaking blah. They may just be killing time until take-off, but why do I need to listen to it?
No-smoking? When has there been a smoking flight in the last decade in Canada?
Seatbelts?
That one really pisses me off. Is there anyone alive who really needs instruction in the use of a lap seatbelt? If so, how did they manage to find the airport, get through security, find their flight, board their flight, and find their seat if they are that freaking stupid.
OK, I feel better for having done my bitching.
Is it just me, or is anyone else tired of that bit? |
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| onestepback |
| Its an illusion of safety. :dunno: Fight Club has a good little speech about it. Check it out sometime. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
| Probably a liability thing. |
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| Vive le Quebec |
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Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Probably a liability thing.
werd...a CYA thing. |
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| ehos |
Well, if they didn't have that little spiel to memorize, then EVERYONE would want to be stewardess (oops, I mean Airline hostess).
It's the airlines way of keeping the really ditzy bimbos off the airplanes I guess... |
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| NightmareMX6 |
| I don't pay attention to what they are saying. I just see if they are hot, then go back to reading my magazine, until I can use my ipod |
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| REFLUX |
I suppose just like exhibiting some self control & not posting in forum topics that people don't find interesting.....people could also just ignore the flight attendant demonstration.
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| Bad Egg |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
I suppose just like exhibiting some self control & not posting in forum topics that people don't find interesting.....people could also just ignore the flight attendant demonstration.
:dunno:
Wow, thanks for that vague little tidbit on self control...I personally ignore the spiels myself, but when they are doing the seat belt demo six inches from your face, you tend to notice it anyway.
Seinfeld made a career out of this kind of observation, but if I am reading your post correctly it seems that my doing it indicates I am lacking character. I could be misinterperting you, so my question for you is, are you referring to your own lack of self control, or someone else's? I think you may want to take your own advice if you are referring to others.
What is the point of an OT section if we can't post random, harmless bits in it? |
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| sparkycivic |
| I'd probably listen more intently if the hostESS were wearing a swimsuit(or less) at the time |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by sparkycivic
I'd probably listen more intently if the hostESS were wearing a swimsuit(or less) at the time
I haven't flown a non-Canadian flight in a while but is it true that airlines like Korean Air, Singapore Air & others only hire good looking stewards/stewardesses?
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| ozzmodan |
That safety spiel is mandated by the Canadian Air Regulations. Nobody has any real reason to want to change it, so it doesn't change.
Kyle |
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| Bad Egg |
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Originally posted by ozzmodan
That safety spiel is mandated by the Canadian Air Regulations. Nobody has any real reason to want to change it, so it doesn't change.
Kyle
If that is true, it is pretty much what I expected. I did hear the airlines have been trying to get the rules changed about the number of attendants on flights. There is a certain ratio based on seats on a flight that is mandated, and the airlines want to adjust that ratio to drop some of them. The unions were arguing against it saying they were needed for safety, but who knows how that will go.
I like most of the airline staff I have met, especially at WestJet compared to Air Canada, but if I save a few bucks on a ticket I can live without my juice box/pretzel mix/headphones being delivered to my seat... |
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| Vive le Quebec |
| I like the sense of humor that WestJet flight attendants have...I find it pretty entertaining. |
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| tokes |
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Egg
That one really pisses me off. Is there anyone alive who really needs instruction in the use of a lap seatbelt? If so, how did they manage to find the airport, get through security, find their flight, board their flight, and find their seat if they are that freaking stupid.
On my Ryanair flight from Barcelona to Rome, there was a blonde chick sitting next to me who couldn't figure it out. had the two ends of the seat belt that have the latch on them, and was trying to mash them together, not even kidding! :lol: |
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| Casanova |
| I think you give mankind too much credit. |
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| Vive le Quebec |
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Originally posted by tokes
On my Ryanair flight from Barcelona to Rome, there was a blonde chick sitting next to me who couldn't figure it out. had the two ends of the seat belt that have the latch on them, and was trying to mash them together, not even kidding! :lol:
Did you help her out? |
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| dtjohnst |
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From Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) Subpart 2
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/R.../602.htm#602_89
602.89 (1) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall ensure that all of the passengers on board the aircraft are briefed before take-off with respect to the following, where applicable:
(a) the location and means of operation of emergency and normal exits;
(b) the location and means of operation of safety belts, shoulder harnesses and restraint devices;
(c) the positioning of seats and the securing of seat backs and chair tables;
(d) the stowage of carry-on baggage;
(e) where the aircraft is unpressurized and it is possible that the flight will require the use of oxygen by the passengers, the location and means of operation of oxygen equipment; and
(f) any prohibition against smoking.
(2) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall ensure that all of the passengers on board the aircraft are briefed
(a) in the case of an over-water flight where the carriage of life preservers, individual flotation devices or personal flotation devices is required pursuant to section 602.62, before commencement of the over-water portion of the flight, with respect to the location and use of those items; and
(b) in the case of a pressurized aircraft that is to be operated at an altitude above FL 250, before the aircraft reaches FL 250, with respect to the location and means of operation of oxygen equipment.
(3) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall, before take-off, ensure that all of the passengers on board the aircraft are provided with information respecting the location and use of
(a) first aid kits and survival equipment;
(b) where the aircraft is a helicopter or a small aircraft that is an aeroplane, any ELT that is required to be carried on board pursuant to section 605.38; and
(c) any life raft that is required to be carried on board pursuant to section 602.63.
Anyone out there who's got any form of pilot's licence, from a recreational all the way up to an Airline Transport Pilot's Licence is familiar with this section of CARs. It's like the Traffic Safety Act for planes. The breifings are required by law and are required to contain information on stuff like how to use seatbelts, don't smoke, etc.
It causes no delay to you, during that time the pilots have work to do. All outdoor hatches are sealed, all control surfaces are rechecked for proper working, fuel loads are recalculated, the grounding wire is disconnected, electronics are fired up and checked, the computers are rechecked to confirm the proper flight plans are entered, communications are checked, backup systems are checked, flight systems are calibrated, and so on. It takes a LONG time to get an airliner ready to go. A small plane can be ready in 5 mins tops if the pilot has a lot of experience, but there's very little that needs to be checked.
Just do what I do, read a magazine or something. There's no law that says you HAVE to listen, merely that they HAVE to do the briefing. I only ever pay attention if the stew is hot, but that seems to be less and less frequent now. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
Haha.. I never even thought of that.
I always give a speil to my passengers before flying. Tell them they can kick the windscreen out, where the ELT is, etc...
Guess it's the same thing. |
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| dtjohnst |
I use the old "If anything happens, don't touch anything and shut the fuck up."
And if things do happen, I break out the old 2-step checklist. "Turn Shit Off, Get The Fuck Out."
On my multi-IFR check ride I was asked "What would you do if the engine caught on fire during start up?" My response was "TSO-GTFO". Examiner said "Good enough."
What ratings you got 95EagleAWD? You do it at EFC?
I'm amazed they didn't teach you a briefing was mandatory and required by law. Should be part of ground school, like ARROWILLI. |
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| tokes |
quote:
Originally posted by Vive le Quebec
Did you help her out?
Mainly just laughed, I wasn't going to reach over my girlfriends lap to help that girl do up her belt :D |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
I use the old "If anything happens, don't touch anything and shut the fuck up."
And if things do happen, I break out the old 2-step checklist. "Turn Shit Off, Get The Fuck Out."
On my multi-IFR check ride I was asked "What would you do if the engine caught on fire during start up?" My response was "TSO-GTFO". Examiner said "Good enough."
What ratings you got 95EagleAWD? You do it at EFC?
I'm amazed they didn't teach you a briefing was mandatory and required by law. Should be part of ground school, like ARROWILLI.
Oh they did teach me. I just forgot. My license isn't current and my medical's expired... :lol: I flew with NFC out of CZVL.
If shit happened in the air, I used the "Tuck head between legs and kiss your ass good-bye."
I remember doing forced landings one day and my instructor noticed I was picking fields with livestock around... he asked me why and I told him if I'm gonna stick this plane in the dirt, I want some goddamned food when I'm down there... |
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| ozzmodan |
| Dtjohnst, when did you get your training done at EFC? |
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| dtjohnst |
| I didn't. I did my training in MB, at the now bankrupt (for good reason) Flying Colors, and did my Multi-IFR at Perimeter Airlines. |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I remember doing forced landings one day and my instructor noticed I was picking fields with livestock around... he asked me why and I told him if I'm gonna stick this plane in the dirt, I want some goddamned food when I'm down there...
ROFL! Shit, that's one of the funniest things I've read in a LONG long time!
(I dunno why, but it's fucking cracking me up...) |
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