| scooby_dooby |
i'm sure many of you know kevin at ez-motorsports, just wondering about your experiences.
good? bad? |
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| ManHunter |
Bad doesn't even start to describe it.
:thumbsdown:
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| REFLUX |
here we go
I'm surprised you even had to ASK this question..... |
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| Kato |
| Never dealt with them, looks like I won't be. :mellow: |
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| scooby_dooby |
wow, care to share your stories?
he got me some smokin deals on my kit, wondering if i should get him to install/paint it for me |
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| curtis_rak |
Never dealt with them, but have heard numerous horror stories.
All I know for sure is that I have seen their ugly ass cars all over the city. |
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| TheWask |
| Never dealt with them on a personal level. ALl I hear is bad though. |
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| scooby_dooby |
well from the thread i read it seemed like about 8 people bashing on them, and almost everybody was whining about how they walked in and didn;t get any respect, or they can't get a quote or whatever. I don't think I saw any who said they had work done, and weren't satisfied.
I can tell you, he'll pretty much beat any quote in canada, I ordered my AEM CAI and it was here in 5 days! Sure he gives high prices initially, but it's up to you to tell him the price you're looking for. Half the bitching was about prices, and that is just plain wrong, he gives smokin deals.
So please, I'd like to hear some real stories, from people who've actually dealt with them |
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| prophet_ca |
| Go head and deal with him, If you have a good transaction post it up.. I would never go back there, but he has to have some customers who are satisfied if his shop is still open after what he says is about 12 years |
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| scooby_dooby |
| why won't you go back there? |
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| Inzane |
Just watch their 17-second "fastest SOHC Civic in Western Canada" run at the track...
:D |
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| ManHunter |
If you can get good prices there, go for it! Just don't let them touch your car. :)
It costed me about 10000$ to learn that.
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| RallyCivic |
| its a nice ef civic, just has WAY to much rice lights and other crap on it. If they strip all that stuff off, it would be a killer car. |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| their cars are :gay: didn't get much respect.. I think it's a color thing :o |
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| RallyCivic |
what do you mean by color thing?
I hope not skin color!? :o |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by RallyCivic@Apr 18 2003, 09:48 AM
what do you mean by color thing?
I hope not skin color!? :o
No, no, no... I'm sure he's referring to the car's color theme: Black w/ yellow, white & pink (or something like that, I forget exactly). |
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| scooby_dooby |
ya he gave me great prices, i'm just your average white-boy and i get along great with him, so-far. He seems like a pretty good guy.
MH, what did they do your car? |
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| scooby_dooby |
| he saysa there civic is pulling high 15's, that's super weak though, i could pull high 15's with a CAI. |
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| prophet_ca |
That is weak for a 30000 engine. ;)
Yeah if your getting a killer deal, buy it from him and have the work done elsewhere. Or get some sort of written warranty saying that the work is going to be done in a certain amount of time, and will last a certain amount of time..
He is a nice guy, I personally don't hate him I was treated and spoken to nicely when i dealt with him, just that my work got prolonged over 8 weeks (after payment) to install an alarm and put on my rims. So i went somewhere else to install, and to find out the alarm was refurbished kinda piss me off. That is why i would never go back there. Also friends have been charged nearly double on certain items. You could say its there fault for not knowing prices, but i personally don't want to deal with a person who charges one price for one custumer and openly rips off another.
Only shops i would ever go to is Pro-drag and Apex. But thats only in an emergency, Im armed with the internet (for prices), fsm (for installation), and common sense.. That is all i need |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 10:03 AM
he says their civic is pulling high 15's
That requires witnesses for validation. ;) |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by prophet_ca@Apr 18 2003, 10:23 AM
That is weak for a 30000 engine. ;)
Yeah if your getting a killer deal, buy it from him and have the work done elsewhere. Or get some sort of written warranty saying that the work is going to be done in a certain amount of time, and will last a certain amount of time..
He is a nice guy, I personally don't hate him I was treated and spoken to nicely when i dealt with him, just that my work got prolonged over 8 weeks (after payment) to install an alarm and put on my rims. So i went somewhere else to install, and to find out the alarm was refurbished kinda piss me off. That is why i would never go back there. Also friends have been charged nearly double on certain items. You could say its there fault for not knowing prices, but i personally don't want to deal with a person who charges one price for one custumer and openly rips off another.
Only shops i would ever go to is Pro-drag and Apex. But thats only in an emergency, Im armed with the internet (for prices), fsm (for installation), and common sense.. That is all i need
that's the stuff i'm lookin to hear. ya that's weak. i don't know why you'd even build thos gay SOHC, those engines put VTEC to shame.
and man I got my alarm installed, with remote start on a 5speed in about 3 hours at Tec-Auto, so that is very gay.
I think I will take it somewhere else, sameday service is very important to me. |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane@Apr 18 2003, 11:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 10:03 AM
he says their civic is pulling high 15's
That requires witnesses for validation. ;)
his engine stock can pull high 15's in anything under 2200lbs, that's what's so fuct |
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| ManHunter |
They took 3 weeks to install my turbo kit, and charged me for almost 3 weeks of labor... In the process, they dented my hood enough that I had to replace it. And finally, they blew up my engine, which I also had to get Honda to replace. Never received 1 cent from them.
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ManHunter@Apr 18 2003, 11:30 AM
And finally, they blew up my engine, which I also had to get Honda to replace.
Am I reading between the lines correctly? You got Honda Canada to pay for your engine replacement? Or you got a Honda dealership to perform the rest of the work/labor on your car?
Hopefully it was the latter... |
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| scooby_dooby |
| that's rough bro |
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| RezaREX |
| Expensive lesson. |
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| Tsunami |
why come on here to ask about EZ if you already bought off them and are satisfied? Sounds more like your trying to endorse them but the thread kinda failed.
If not, and you are a happy custy... good on ya, glad you got some good deals. Nice to see. |
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| prophet_ca |
quote:
Originally posted by Tsunami@Apr 18 2003, 11:40 AM
why come on here to ask about EZ if you already bought off them and are satisfied? Sounds more like your trying to endorse them but the thread kinda failed.
If not, and you are a happy custy... good on ya, glad you got some good deals. Nice to see.
I don't think he actually bought anything yet, but was just asking before he went through with a transaction.. |
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| Loose |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 10:03 AM
he saysa there civic is pulling high 15's, that's super weak though, i could pull high 15's with a CAI.
You have obviously never been to the track with your car, and have probably never drag raced.
BTW... at every single race I've seen that Civic in, they write 15.0 as a dial in, when they are running low 17's all day. Ask anyone with a good memory. |
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| Tsunami |
Loose, I hear ya on that one....
Prophet, he said he bought some Kit of them and some other parts on page 1 of this thread |
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane@Apr 18 2003, 12:38 PM
Am I reading between the lines correctly? You got Honda Canada to pay for your engine replacement? Or you got a Honda dealership to perform the rest of the work/labor on your car?
No, they wouldn't pay for it. They found one in New Brunswick (3 years ago, H22s were hard to find), and brought it here. I had to pay for it, and pay for them to do the swap.
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| redbaron303 |
Eric couldn't you sue EZ for destruction of property or something...?!
The dealership I used to work for said if they broke something while in their possesion they'd fix it... car wise |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ManHunter@Apr 18 2003, 12:07 PM
No, they wouldn't pay for it.
That's good. I was hoping you weren't telling us you made a fraudulent warranty claim or something, 'cause that wouldn't have been cool.
B) |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by Loose@Apr 18 2003, 12:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 10:03 AM
he saysa there civic is pulling high 15's, that's super weak though, i could pull high 15's with a CAI.
You have obviously never been to the track with your car, and have probably never drag raced.
BTW... at every single race I've seen that Civic in, they write 15.0 as a dial in, when they are running low 17's all day. Ask anyone with a good memory.
no you're right, never been to the track. i've drag raced hundred's of times, never at the track though
All I know is my car just put down 120hp with 116lbs of torque, with just an exhaust, and I also know alot of people who have pulled high 15's with just a CAI, and my car is a little bit of a freak.
I ave a CAI in there now, and I'm an awesome driver so I guess we'll see in about a week? Gotta find me a helmet... |
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| redbaron303 |
Dont forget SD, you're only racing for yourself right now... you dn't have to prove anything to anyone, unless YOU want to! :)
But just a question... where are those cars running 15's?! I presume you're talking about tegs? |
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| scooby_dooby |
so MH this was 3 years ago this happened?
I wonder if they're better nowadays |
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| prophet_ca |
| If he is putting down 17's in a car that is 2200 pounds that means he has like 89 hp in a 30000 dollar engine thats $337/hp... Also scooby, im assuming your car is around 2600pounds to reach 15's you need around 152hp, not taking into consideration altitude |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by redbaron303@Apr 18 2003, 12:24 PM
Dont forget SD, you're only racing for yourself right now... you dn't have to prove anything to anyone, unless YOU want to! :)
But just a question... where are those cars running 15's?! I presume you're talking about tegs?
yes I have to prove that non-VTEC's haul ass!!!
check g2ic for different times, i remember a few runnin 15's in montreal, some down in the states somewhere, the common thread between the high 15 runs seem to be cold days. around +10 celsius seems to be an awesome temp. to do some runs.
we run slower times here cause we're like 2200 ft above sea level though, right? |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by prophet_ca@Apr 18 2003, 12:25 PM
If he is putting down 17's in a car that is 2200 pounds that means he has like 89 hp in a 30000 dollar engine thats $337/hp... Also scooby, im assuming your car is around 2600pounds to reach 15's you need around 152hp, not taking into consideration altitude
well right now, with a 10-15% drivetrain loss I'm at 140-150hp, that's before my CAI, like i said that's a little abnormal, most 90-91 tegs with these mods would be more like 130-140. |
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| redbaron303 |
I'm not sure the height, but ya we run slower here.... :(
Goodluck at the track this year, hopefully you'll hone your skillz really quick for the "real" 1/4 mile... :) :bigthumbup: |
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| prophet_ca |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 12:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by prophet_ca@Apr 18 2003, 12:25 PM
If he is putting down 17's in a car that is 2200 pounds that means he has like 89 hp in a 30000 dollar engine thats $337/hp... Also scooby, im assuming your car is around 2600pounds to reach 15's you need around 152hp, not taking into consideration altitude
well right now, with a 10-15% drivetrain loss I'm at 140-150hp, that's before my CAI.
152 wheel |
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| scooby_dooby |
well i don't know about those number, but I can tell you if an LS puts down 152 to the wheels, he;s gonna be LOW 15's. There's a couple guys running high 14's on team-integra.net, and they're just under 160hp to the wheels. pretty much stock trim too, and these are the newer tegs, which have about 100lbs on me.
How can you take peak HP and say what the 1/4 mile time will be, hat about the whole powerband? Two cars could have the same peak HP and one could absolutely destroy the other because of their different powerbands. |
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| scooby_dooby |
| anyways, back to EZ... |
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| prophet_ca |
| Im just using an approximation.... hp = weight / (ET / 5.825)3 and not factoring 1.0276 which would say you need approximately 152 to run a 15.41.. These are approximations and have no real world values |
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| scooby_dooby |
| man it'll be embarassing if I get out there and run like 16's, whatever, we shall see i guess. i know it's stupid to be saying what you're gonna run, when you've never ran, but hey, my Dyno's got me all stoked... |
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| scooby_dooby |
back to EZ,
He's got these Momo seats sitting there, after we had already chatted it up a few times, and I'd bought some stuff off him, brought one of my firend in he bought about $400 worth of stuff straight up, I was like how much for those seats?
He's like "450-900", kinda like for you $450, for some people $900. so maybe that tells you what kind of range he prices his stuff at, he always has a super high number, but you just have to tell him what you think it's worth, and seems he'll usually give it to you for that price. |
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| redbaron303 |
Back to EZ, I"m sorry, haven't read 100% of the thread!
Doesn't matter where you go, you'll hear bitching about all the shops/places no matter what!
Personally, I have nothing bad to say about the service at any shop I've been into, except EZ! Blaine, Dieter (sp?), guys at JB's, Leno, etc... they've all been good to me!
I told this story once before... My friend and I went there in the Acura TL (99) to check the shop out because he seemed like a nice guy when we met him before, so we go into the shop and he's on the phone and we decide to look around... well they have a $300.00 momo seat sitting there in the corner and it looks like its a "demo" something to try, so we both take a turn and sit in this seat... minute we do that the guy on the phone looks over and puts down the phone and says "don't sit in it if you can't afford it." So my friend and I looked at him, the $300 price tag, and I looked out the door and "unlocked" the TL and started walking to it... he sees the car and all of a sudden changes his tune "wait, I'll give you a really good deal on it" We were like, sorry man, not this time!
So basically, I've found them to have shit service there, and it's unfortunate because they could be better than they are... plus their appearance isn't very good... it looks very sleazy which is unfortunate too... There are plenty of shops in calgary that look awesome and seem to have very quick cars promoting them and "tuned" by them... unfortunatly EZ doesn't fall into that category from what I've seen and experienced, come on it's a $300.00 seat, I sure as hell can afford that (or at least could at the time...)
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: To EZ's customer service! Maybe they'll improve! |
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| scooby_dooby |
well he was probably just kidding. I went in there with a couple of my buddies, and one guy was kinda lookin a little scrub-ish, Kev like "Hey, no loitering!", we all laughed, he was just kidding around. He was probably just jokin around with ya.
he even said I could borrow a corner of his garage to install my CAI, that's pretty cool! |
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 01:24 PM
so MH this was 3 years ago this happened?
I wonder if they're better nowadays
I'll let you try it and let me know.
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| scooby_dooby |
| heh, i dunno, they seem too busy to me, i need it done in like 2days tops. i'll see what kinda price he gives me, and garauntee on time. |
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| redbaron303 |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 01:04 PM
well he was probably just kidding. I went in there with a couple of my buddies, and one guy was kinda lookin a little scrub-ish, Kev like "Hey, no loitering!", we all laughed, he was just kidding around. He was probably just jokin around with ya.
he even said I could borrow a corner of his garage to install my CAI, that's pretty cool!
I'm sorry man, but when it comes to business and getting mine you don't joke around, unless I know you very well! I'm not in the mood to give my business to somebody that thinks I'm a joke, joker, or whatever! When I spend money on my car, whether it's for a new turbo or blue lights I expect that I'm treated like a real person, kind and curtious in the same sitting! As someone aspiring to become a business owner I sure as hell wouldn't treat my customers like they were dumb or like they didn't know anything and couldn't afford anything! I don't think he's built a very good reputation for the company and shit like him telling me I can't afford his stuff is BS!
Again, it's just my opinion, but I seem to think like alot of the other enthusiasts on this board! |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by prophet_ca@Apr 18 2003, 12:40 PM
Im just using an approximation.... hp = weight / (ET / 5.825)3 and not factoring 1.0276 which would say you need approximately 152 to run a 15.41.. These are approximations and have no real world values
ya they rally don't have any real life values.
look at the civic si's/ex's vs, integra, 130hp each, but the ls is like .5-.8 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile on average. I'm talking about the 96-2000 si's which are the same weight as me. They run like high 16's to low 17's, while teg's run around high 15's to low 16's.
I mean a different tranny alone can net like 3 tenths in the 1/4, i wouldn't trust those #'s too much. |
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| little_one_der |
holy shat EZ is getting dumped on! I almost wanted to go in for a look, but now, I shall think twice.
*the first and only shop i've been in so far was Phat* :mellow: |
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| scooby_dooby |
check it out, it's a cool shop. they have a real nice lancer in there.
they get dumped on, but how many of these people have actually had work done and weren't satisfied? 2? Then again, I haven't heard anyone who had work done and WAS satisfied.
Steve from Midas said he farms work out there once in a hwile, and he;s never had a single complaint, so that counts for something. |
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| redbaron303 |
The lancer is from west end mitsubishi... a friends dealership, anyways they said they weren't too happy w/ the service they had from ez!
Yes it looks good, but how hard is it to bolt in seats, body kit (&paint), wheels, and steering wheel! oh and some graphics?! I don't know all the circumstances but they said they weren't happy and are thinking about opening a perf. shop in the dealership! |
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| RezaREX |
| Talkin about the white Riced out EVO wannabe? |
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| redbaron303 |
| That's correct.... base model done up! hahahahahA! |
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| scooby_dooby |
quote:
Originally posted by RezaREX@Apr 18 2003, 02:14 PM
Talkin about the white Riced out EVO wannabe?
dude you ever have any work done there, or you hust trashin them cause it's the cool thing to do.
i'm only looking for real experiences here. |
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| redbaron303 |
You have 5 pages of ppl saying how bad they are... from MH whos had shoody work done there to ppl like me who've been told we can't afford their products which is major BS!!!!!
No one should run a business like that, and it doesn't take having work done their to see what we're talking about!
You know,take a look at their cars... the black civic should speak more than enough about the quality of workmanship that they put through... At least the guys from Zippy's, Titans, Phat, have had cars that run sub 15's and sometimes have invested as much if not more in their projects! Take it to the ppl that have good, fast, cars because they have the right experience! |
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| RezaREX |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 02:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RezaREX@Apr 18 2003, 02:14 PM
Talkin about the white Riced out EVO wannabe?
dude you ever have any work done there, or you hust trashin them cause it's the cool thing to do.
i'm only looking for real experiences here.
I've never had any experience with them whatsoever except I saw their riced out all show no go Lancer at the car show which IMO is NOT a cool car. |
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| scooby_dooby |
oh ya, i TOTALLY wouldn't bring my car there for any performace mods. You ar very right, that civic speaks for itself.
but right now, i'm more concerned with having my hood/fenders intalled and painted. so i'm mainly lookin at the body shop end of things.
again, 5 pages of people, but only 2 who are speaking from their own experiences. some people, like you, feel they got no respect, but like I said i've gotten along great with him, and he has given me the best prices in the city. |
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| redbaron303 |
You know, maybe you've just ended your own debate....
You get what you want from them and have great experiences! I'm glad and I hope it continues that way! I would check out the white crx w/ chrome wheels that they put out.... it doesn't seem like anything was wrong with it and looked okay! Use you're own judgement and hopefully it all turns out! :fingersx: |
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| scooby_dooby |
ya i dunno, i need to hear SOMEONE say thay have had body work done, and it was good.
i mean they do do good work right? i think the main compalint is they're too slow right?
i guess we'll see, the hood and fenders should be early next week, I said I wanted ViS fenders, not some other knock off.
I called Vis, and their fenders are primed yellow, and have a serial no on the inside, so he better not try and pull one over on me. |
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| RezaREX |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 02:38 PM
i mean they do do good work right? i think the main compalint is they're too slow right?
Other than MH's engine blowing up, yeah real good work :wacko: |
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by redbaron303@Apr 18 2003, 01:10 PM
Eric couldn't you sue EZ for destruction of property or something...?!
The dealership I used to work for said if they broke something while in their possesion they'd fix it... car wise
3 years ago, if I would have tried that, they would simply have filed for bankcruptcy and closed the shop. I would have gotten nothing (maybe I would have done a service to the community, though? :))
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 03:04 PM
Steve from Midas said he farms work out there once in a hwile, and he;s never had a single complaint, so that counts for something.
Get your facts straight. :)
Steve from Midas does some work *FOR* EZ sometimes. Not the other way around. Kevin farms out work to Steve.
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 03:38 PM
ya i dunno, i need to hear SOMEONE say thay have had body work done, and it was good.
The only body work they did on my car was to dent my hood beyond repair, while working in the engine bay.
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| curtis_rak |
scooby,
Do you always rely so heavily on other peoples opinions in order to make your own?
Obviously, the consensus here is that most have either;
a.) had some bad luck with EZ or
b.) have heard of others having bad luck.
Now, go to a freakin body shop, get your kit installed, painted, and let it go.
My .02 |
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| prophet_ca |
This thread is going nowhere... do your work there, see what happens if your happy your happy if your not your not.. you already bought stuff and had a good experience, no need to defend kevin from what people think of his store. Its only people opinions if i had not bought from him, my impression would have been that he has a riced 17 second civic with $30000 engine, has a bunch of ezmotorsport stickered cars with annoying rice can mufflers, and more rice assessories than should be on one car, has two certified mechanics with no certification (that i have seen), tries to take advantage of people if they don't know better, has decent cars at the shows, and has connections at crazy horse :bigthumbup: .
If your just getting a fender and hood, anyone with a wrench could put that on. I don't think they are going to mess it up, if they do they are even more worthless than what people already think. |
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| scooby_dooby |
this is what midas guy said:
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Wow. Well in kevins defence I have never personaly bought anything from him as we are both in the automotive customer service feild we have meet and done small jobs for each other a few times. I can say this out of all the people that I have sent to his store not one has been unhappy with his service. Yes I do know some that have been pissed off but only people I meet down the road. We all have ghosts and we can only hope that we please new clients as those we pissed off before we will never see again ( which sucks!) I hope your revamping bring you succses.
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but you're right, i guess this is going nowhere, i don't think i'll be getting it put on at EZ. |
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| ManHunter |
Whoever said "any publicity is good publicity" must be turning in his grave right now. :)
Anyway. I'm done now.
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| All I'm going to say is I was in to look over the Lancer and I REALLY looked over it I am beyond anal when it comes to body perfection on cars and they did a GREAT job on the kit. The paint was not so good b/c of some masking jobs BUT I don't know where it was painted. Also cars may rattle when rolling on the road so I don't know about that. If you want PERFECTION you will pay for it and perfection is called Modern Autobody I have not had any exp. with EZ or M.A other then talking to them |
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| s2oooR |
quote:
Originally posted by ManHunter@Apr 18 2003, 10:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by scooby_dooby@Apr 18 2003, 03:38 PM
ya i dunno, i need to hear SOMEONE say thay have had body work done, and it was good.
The only body work they did on my car was to dent my hood beyond repair, while working in the engine bay.
MH
Did they pay for a new hood for you? |
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T@Apr 18 2003, 06:32 PM
All I'm going to say is I was in to look over the Lancer and I REALLY looked over it I am beyond anal when it comes to body perfection on cars and they did a GREAT job on the kit. The paint was not so good b/c of some masking jobs BUT I don't know where it was painted. Also cars may rattle when rolling on the road so I don't know about that. If you want PERFECTION you will pay for it and perfection is called Modern Autobody I have not had any exp. with EZ or M.A other then talking to them
The Lancer was nicely done on the outside, as far as I remember. I'm not sure molding the body kit sides to the car is a good idea though. It might very will start to crack soon.
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| ManHunter |
quote:
Originally posted by s2oooR@Apr 18 2003, 08:06 PM
Did they pay for a new hood for you?
nope.
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| GTS Jeff |
ive been to ez and talked to kevin. i dont mean to slander him, but seriously i found his knowledge of cars to be laughable. u could tell he was bsing when u asked him stuff. he even tried to sell me a pair of h4 conversions for 400 bucks!!
and i should also mention that their so-called lancer "evo" has NANKANGS on it...
what a joke. the store is just as much a waste of space as all the ricey cars in edmonton with the EZ banners |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by ManHunter@Apr 19 2003, 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by s2oooR@Apr 18 2003, 08:06 PM
Did they pay for a new hood for you?
nope.
MH
thats too bad.......i guess they must have a disclaimer for damaging your vehicle? |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| ok let me take this one. When ANY shop holds a vehicle because there's a bill on it they are liable for it. It is called a bailee for value and the car MUST be returned in the same condition upon delivery. If they were to do Eric's car and let him take it home and put it on some sort of tab they would not be liable. When any shop fixes your vehicle and says come pick it up, it's outside and pay the bill later they are releasing all commitment to liability on their behalf. If Eric's car was to blow up in there for some reason or another EZ would be responsible. This is a fact and don't dispute me I read law books :P Unfortunately it's been over a year since the incident so Eric is s.o.l... too bad I didn't know you before dood or I would've gladly helped prepare your case :D |
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