| ~30oZ~ |
| So how many of the Z32's are now sleeping for the season?...as for me Nissan still has mine,:( I hope I'll get the car back fast enough to try out the new downpipes and before the salt hits the ground:( |
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| MixManMash |
| Take a look outside... It's nasty and I have to try and make it back down to Calgary in one piece tomorrow (Sunday). My Z32 has been tucked away for the last 2 weeks. |
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| Inzane |
Not quite yet for me... The Z made its last trip the gas station already. But I still have to give it a final wash, do an oil change, swap some tires, add fuel stabilizer etc. before I call 'er done.
I'll probably take full coverage off next week sometime. |
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| vorpalz |
The turbo's still in the garage, haven't driven to winter storage yet (or will be able to until we get some snow melt). Got the Blizzaks on the 'vert yesterday morning.
Also, out of curiosity, I phoned the city of Edmonton Transportation Dept. and asked about salt. According to the lady I spoke with, Edmonton doesn't use road salt, but calcium chloride in addition to sand and is also using calcium magnesium acetate as well. The big concern was not only vehicle damage, but concrete erosion and water contamination. Outlying counties such as Leduc and Strathcona use (sodium chloride) salt, however. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
The turbo's still in the garage, haven't driven to winter storage yet (or will be able to until we get some snow melt). Got the Blizzaks on the 'vert yesterday morning.
Also, out of curiosity, I phoned the city of Edmonton Transportation Dept. and asked about salt. According to the lady I spoke with, Edmonton doesn't use road salt, but calcium chloride in addition to sand and is also using calcium magnesium acetate as well. The big concern was not only vehicle damage, but concrete erosion and water contamination. Outlying counties such as Leduc and Strathcona use (sodium chloride) salt, however.
i'm no sure if i get it...i was never that great in chem... :p lol does that mean cars won't rust due to not having the roads coated in salt? |
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| Thegnome |
Not that I drive a z32, but my 31 will be going into my little home made tarp shelter soon so I can pull the engine.
What ever they're using, it still provokes rust. When I got my car is didn't have a spot of rust. After last winter I have little bubbles around my wheel wells and under the door panels. Piss me off.
Just means I have to paint it black now :p |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by Thegnome
Not that I drive a z32, but my 31 will be going into my little home made tarp shelter soon so I can pull the engine.
What ever they're using, it still provokes rust. When I got my car is didn't have a spot of rust. After last winter I have little bubbles around my wheel wells and under the door panels. Piss me off.
Just means I have to paint it black now :p
lol...that a good way at looking at it. So if I don't winter drive my car ever and it has no rust on it to start with does that mean it will never rust to death or does every car rust away sonner or later? |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by ~30oZ~
i'm no sure if i get it...i was never that great in chem... :p lol does that mean cars won't rust due to not having the roads coated in salt?
Nope. First of all, calcium chloride is still a "salt". Secondly, cars can still be suseptable to underdeposit corrosion. All that "harmless" sand and crud that gets caked up in hard to reach (ie. hard to clean) places can trap moisture and promote corrosion, even in the absence of any salt.
Plus with all that sand and rocks on the road your vehicle is also more likely to accumulate rock chips over winter.
Winter is hard on vehicles, and that's just simple a fact we have to live with here in Alberta. :( |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by James_Z32
The engine bay
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/...winter06xr6.jpg
Hmm... I didn't notice before that your car used to be black. I know you repainted the car after you got it, but was it already white when it first landed here? |
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| James_Z32 |
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Originally posted by Inzane
Hmm... I didn't notice before that your car used to be black. I know you repainted the car after you got it, but was it already white when it first landed here?
Ya the car was repainted when I got it. A really crappy job too. Had the car completely stripped down and repainted minus the engine bay. It was cool to see the car get media blasted and confirm there was NO bondo on the car.
The engine bay needs some work though. I had it steam cleaned before I put it away for the winter to get that crud like stuff removed. It did and awesome job however, if you look close there’s a little rust forming by the Right shock, the battery box (typical) and I had an ugly leak from the BMC. Going to have to replace that and repaint the brake booster.
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| Inzane |
| Are you planning to paint your engine bay white over the winter (while the engine's out), or just leave it? |
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| James_Z32 |
| No, I kinda like it being black. Hides more of the imperfections better then white. I will be fixing the rust however and cleaning the rest of the bay up as best a possible. Removing such things as the fender clutch bleed point and relocating some other things. Most of the $$$ this winter will be spent on the engine. |
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| MixManMash |
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Originally posted by James_Z32
Most of the $$$ this winter will be spent on the engine.
Cool. What have you got planned for your motor? |
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| James_Z32 |
Basically a full clean up, lots of powder coating, all new rubber, gaskets, egr removal, PCV bypass, water bypass, clean up the upper and lower plenums, clean the stock injectors and replace with all new rings and insulators. A new flywheel and clutch with new clutch hardware. ect...
It basically started with an oil pump pressure issues, so I will be replacing the oil pump, pan, pick up tube and the accompanying gaskets. I was going to do all this by lowering the cross member but decided removing the engine was even easier and would afford me the opportunity to do various other projects over the long winter months.
I basically want to make to engine solid for 14lbs boost. My turbos look to be in great shape. I have solid compression all the way around (155ish) and all the injectors’ ohm'd out at 12.6. So I should be ok.
I'm sure the project list will grow as I move forward.
Regards James. :thumbup: |
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| vorpalz |
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Nope. First of all, calcium chloride is still a "salt"
True, can't argue that. However, salt damage in Alberta is considerably less than in other provinces. Comparing cars in Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia (relatives live in all three provinces, first hand experience) winter driven Alberta cars are in much better shape.
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Secondly, cars can still be susceptable to underdeposit corrosion. All that "harmless" sand and crud that gets caked up in hard to reach (ie. hard to clean) places can trap moisture and promote corrosion, even in the absence of any salt.
Cars can be susceptible to corrosion at any time. Check where your t-tops rub against the upper pillar where paint has been abraded. Check your lower door jambs. Check your fender wells. Carefully. Even if your car isn't winter driven, corrosion can start.
Seen it on seasonal driven cars as well as winter cars.
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Plus with all that sand and rocks on the road your vehicle is also more likely to accumulate rock chips over winter.
Yes, and no rock chips happen over the summer? :rolleyes: A rock chip will happen, regardless. Got my worst windshield bulletholes over the summer. Guess I should stop highway driving in July.
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Winter is hard on vehicles, and that's just simple a fact we have to live with here in Alberta. :(
Agreed. If you winter drive your car, it better be tough.
Don't mean to refute at length, but given the time I've winter driven Z32's, I've come to realize that they are extremely well built cars. I don't worry about my car rusting away, because when it was re-painted this spring I thoroughly checked it for damage, and there was less than I expected for a car winter driven for several years before I ever got it. Easily repaired before the painting.
**Disclaimer** This post is in no way a blanket endorsement to winter drive your Z32. If you value the car and want to keep it show-worthy, park it. Now.
Otherwise, drive it and have fun.
PS: Snow tires.
Regards, |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
However, salt damage in Alberta is considerably less than in other provinces.
winter driven Alberta cars are in much better shape.
This is a well known fact, and because of two main reasons:
1) we use LESS salt here.
2) we generally have colder temperatures. Salt doesn't *work* below a certain temperature, and with our colder Alberta temperatures, we rely much less on salt and much more on sand. (The same reason salt doesn't work as well on the roads here is the same reason salt doesn't attack our cars as badly here.)
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Cars can be susceptible to corrosion at any time.
Even if your car isn't winter driven, corrosion can start.
Never at any point (in the last couple years this topic comes up) did I argue this with you. My position on the winter driving a Z subject was never about absolutes.
I never said you CAN'T winter drive a Z. Nor did I lay claim that summer driven Z's are perfect. I only have ever stated the obvious... that if you wish to keep your car in the best condition possible for the longest period of time, your *best* chance for that is to not winter drive it. (nothing else implied)
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Don't mean to refute at length,
No problem. I understand you have this need to argue for the sake of arguing.
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**Disclaimer** This post is in no way a blanket endorsement to winter drive your Z32. If you value the car and want to keep it show-worthy, park it. Now.
Hey look... we AGREE. :blink: So why were we having this argument in the first place? |
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| MixManMash |
| I don't think anybody was having an argument. Did I read something wrong? |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by MixManMash
I don't think anybody was having an argument. Did I read something wrong?
I read the words "argue" and "refute" in his post.
But no matter, whether it was an argument or not, we'd be silly to because we're all essentially on the same page (just with some slight differences in bias). |
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| vorpalz |
Hey all,
Sorry if I came on as 'argumentative', but I do speak from experience on this one and prefer to post my findings rather than conjecture. I guess all I was trying to do was reassure Edwin that his car won't corrode away if he has to drive it home from Ericksen in the snow.
Shutting up now. ;) |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
:stickpoke
PS - nice avatar pic. |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by Inzane
PS - nice avatar pic.
thanks, i thought you would like it. and i got tired of bender..
edit: whats with the star wars thing>? |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
edit: whats with the star wars thing>?
I guess it's not working. Its an animated smilie gif (borrowed from NECC's site)... they're supposed to be lightsaber fighting. I guess you can't use the link from another site?? :dunno: |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by Inzane
I guess it's not working. Its an animated smilie gif (borrowed from NECC's site)... they're supposed to be lightsaber fighting. I guess you can't use the link from another site?? :dunno:
no i can see it.. i just didnt get it
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
no i can see it.. i just didnt get it
lol
I can SEE it too... but its not *working* for me (at least not at this workstation). Its just sitting there doing nothing. Is it moving for you? |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by Inzane
I can SEE it too... but its not *working* for me (at least not at this workstation). Its just sitting there doing nothing. Is it moving for you?
yes
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
yes
lol
well, ok then. LOL There's nothing to "get" really... I just threw that duel smilie up there in response to your poke-poke. |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by Inzane
well, ok then. LOL There's nothing to "get" really... I just threw that duel smilie up there in response to your poke-poke.
roots are blonde.. lol
so.. back to business |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
roots are blonde.. lol
Ah... in that case, on to our joke of the day:
Blonde Car Accident
One day, while a blonde was out driving her car, she ran into a truck.
The truck's driver made her pull over into a parking lot and get out of the car.
He took a piece of chalk and drew a circle on the pavement. He told her to stand in the middle and not leave the circle.
Furious, he went over to her car and slashed the tires.
The blonde started laughing.
This made the man angrier so he smashed her windshield.
This time the blonde laughed even harder.
Livid, the man broke all her windows and keyed her car.
The blonde is now laughing hysterically, so the truck driver asks her what's so funny.
The blonde giggles and replies, "When you weren't looking, I stepped out of the circle three times!" |
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| 300zxgal |
:rolleyes: lol been there. seen that 1.
but yeah.. car is parked for the winter :) Got any plans for your z over the winter months Inzane? |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
:rolleyes: lol been there. seen that 1.
but yeah.. car is parked for the winter :) Got any plans for your z over the winter months Inzane?
That depends... :D There are the short term plans, and the long term plans. I may work a little on both in parallel. |
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| ~30oZ~ |
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Originally posted by vorpalz
I guess all I was trying to do was reassure Edwin that his car won't corrode away if he has to drive it home from Ericksen in the snow.
Shutting up now. ;)
lol I know it won't after one drive...but I was thinking about long term...I just don't want to ever have to deal with fixing a rusting fender on my Z...ever!:( |
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