| jib_freak |
Okay so heres my situation.
My license was suspended in effect oct. 16th - nov. 16th. I was aware of the fact, and was planning on not driving in that time at all. A friend of mine crashed on his motorbike though, ended up in a coma, and passed away on the 13th. I was caught up with that and the funeral and everything and the suspension completely slipped my mind.
I bought a new car on oct. 15th and was driving it home from a friends house on the 17th and a cop pulled me over because i hadn't registered it yet and he thought it was stolen. Of course, because he ran my plates etc etc he found out about my suspension and everything.
He took my license and towed my car. Car is in the impound until november 23rd and i have a courtdate then also.
My question is this, because i got caught driving while suspended, will my license be suspended for longer? Even if i've payed for my fine and with the story, which is 100% legit??
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
Okay so heres my situation.
My license was suspended in effect oct. 16th - nov. 16th. I was aware of the fact, and was planning on not driving in that time at all. A friend of mine crashed on his motorbike though, ended up in a coma, and passed away on the 13th. I was caught up with that and the funeral and everything and the suspension completely slipped my mind.
I bought a new car on oct. 15th and was driving it home from a friends house on the 17th and a cop pulled me over because i hadn't registered it yet and he thought it was stolen. Of course, because he ran my plates etc etc he found out about my suspension and everything.
He took my license and towed my car. Car is in the impound until november 23rd and i have a courtdate then also.
My question is this, because i got caught driving while suspended, will my license be suspended for longer? Even if i've payed for my fine and with the story, which is 100% legit??
What should i plead in court on the 23rd also??
So you think you're 100% legit story that you "forgot" your license was suspended will get you out of trouble? :S Something tells me that'll rank right up there with "my dog ate my mail so I didn't know" as worst excuse ever.
As for the punishment....you won't like it. Basically, you violated article 94(a) of the Traffic Safety Act of Alberta.
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Prohibition re driving while unauthorized
94(1) For the purposes of this section, a person is an unauthorized driver if
(a) that person’s operator’s licence is suspended or cancelled under this Act,
(2) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle on a highway at any time during which that person is an unauthorized driver.
The penalty for wish is listed under section 95.
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95(1) A person who is guilty of contravening section 94 is liable
(a) for a first offence to a fine of not more than $2000 and in default of payment to a term of imprisonment of not less than 14 days nor more than 6 months, and
(b) for each subsequent offence committed within one year after the commission of the offence referred to in clause (a), to imprisonment for a term of not less than 14 days nor more than 6 months.
(2) Subject to section 98, a person who is guilty of contravening section 94 is disqualified from driving a motor vehicle in Alberta for a period of 6 months from the day of the finding of guilt.
So, you fine will be not more than $2000. If you don't pay it, you go to jail for no less than 14 days. That's optional. $0 is less than $2000, so the judge may be leniant and not give you a fine. However, subpart 2 is not optional and the judge could only chose not to assign that punishment for pretty big extenuating circumstances. So if found guilty, which seems more than likely, you're looking at a 6 month suspension, subject to section 98.
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98 Where
(a) a person is disqualified from driving a motor vehicle in Alberta, and
(b) during the period of disqualification referred to in clause (a), that person is disqualified from driving a motor vehicle in Alberta under section 94 or anywhere in Canada under section 259 of the Criminal Code (Canada),
that 2nd mentioned disqualification referred to in clause (b) shall run consecutively to any previous disqualification that is still in effect or waiting to go into effect, as the case may be.
So, it won't be 6 months from now, it'll be either 6 months from the day you're found guilty, or 6 more months from the day your current suspension ends, whichever comes last. So, from Nov 23rd.
My advice would be to lawyer up, and get all your driving desires done between 17 Nov and 23 Nov, because after that, you should probably plan on not being able to operate a motor vehicle until 23 May 2007 unless you hit a miracle.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound cruel and heartless that your friend died, that really sucks and I'm sorry it happened. Nonetheless, "forgetting" isn't a reason I can see as actually getting you out of anything. I could see perhaps not getting a fine, but I'd be willing to bet you get that 6 month suspension regardless.
And whatever you do, don't forget a second time. As listed above, any subsequent offence will net you time in the big house. And this isn't a criminal offence, so don't think if you're a young offender you're safe. You'd go to juvie hall instead of real jail, but you'd still be going away. |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
Hope you like paying on your new car for six months while you can't drive it. And your insurance premiums will be astronomically high thereafter. Best bet would simply be to sell the car now and start afresh in May.
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Makes sense that you're from Calgary though... :D |
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| jib_freak |
are you accusing me of using a fucking fake story man?? go look it up in the obituaries...his name was Milovan Knezevic
im not saying i forgot...although it does sure as hell seem that way from my first post right? im saying that with all the shit i had to deal with between the 13th and 17th made this slip my mind...now to you guys who are apparently superior to anybody to calgary i know that sounds damn near impossible!
i was given a fine by the officer when i got pulled over the night the car got impounded...its was for $345 which i've payed already. i've also paid off my overdue tickets so my license is clear in that sense.
the officer also told me that i should be able to get my license back when said and my car back on the 23rd which is true afteri checked that out. but he said absolutely nothing about it being suspended for longer. all he said was to show up for the court date and everything would be taken care of and i'd be good to go.
but from what im getting from you...i'll get a fine (which i already got and payed for), and if im totally unlucky a suspension for 6 months correct?
now i've also been told that showing up all clean n respectable, especially with my parents, who are refusing not to come, the judge will see that as a good thing and might be a bit more leniant...is that true? |
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| STiPWR |
Your fucked man... possible jail time.. license suspension, fines etc.
Jib_freak.... Nice name... You referring to meth? |
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| jib_freak |
possible jail time if i get caught again or don't pay my fine...payed the fine already...and i don't exactly plan on doing it again...
and no, i'm not refering to meth you idiot, im refering to my job...i coach freestyle skiing...jib, or jibbing is what sliding rails on skis is called buddy...but good one!!
can somebody that actually has a bit of common sense and moral please post in here?? |
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| STiPWR |
Im the idiot when your the one who gets his license suspended and then goes out and drives while suspended? lol
And your asking for common sense replys? rofl
Then you try use a friends death to your benefit? kinda shallow hey? and really shows your morals and values well.
Having Mommy and Daddy show up in court isnt going to help you out... welcome to the real world...You fucked up, you deal with the consequences. And with your prick attitude I hope you fry in court. |
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| STiPWR |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
are you accusing me of using a fucking fake story man?? go look it up in the obituaries...his name was Milovan Knezevic
At what point did I say I didn't believe your story? "I forgot" is an excuse, no matter what fancy game you want to play with words, you're saying you feel it's ok to be forgiven driving with a suspended licence because you "forgot". That's not something I've personally seen sit well with a court the few times I've heard it used.
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im not saying i forgot...although it does sure as hell seem that way from my first post right? im saying that with all the shit i had to deal with between the 13th and 17th made this slip my mind...now to you guys who are apparently superior to anybody to calgary i know that sounds damn near impossible!
So, slipped your mind and forgot are different how? :dunno: "Sorry babe. I didn't forget we had a date, it just slipped my mind. That's soooo much different."
Us guys? One person made a comment about you being from Calgary, but way to lump everyone into a group like he did. In my books, that makes you a hypocrite. When my mom passed away, I didn't "forget" I had exams to write, a work schedule to keep, chores to do, etc. Oh sorry, what I mean is they didn't slip my mind. :dunno:
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i was given a fine by the officer when i got pulled over the night the car got impounded...its was for $345 which i've payed already. i've also paid off my overdue tickets so my license is clear in that sense.
That fine shouldn't have been for driving with a suspended licence. A police officer can't assess that fine, only a court can, and it's an offence for which a court date is mandatory, ie skipping court isn't an automatic guilty conviction, it means a warrant for arrest is issued. Check out http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INF...splquickref.pdf You'll notice for TSA 51(i) there's no number, so a cop can't issue you some made up number, only a judge or magistrate can. There's a bunch of registration and document violations that are $345 though. If you check the ticket you paid and tell us what you were charged under (TSA 51(i) as an example), we'll be able to tell you what that was for.
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the officer also told me that i should be able to get my license back when said and my car back on the 23rd which is true afteri checked that out. but he said absolutely nothing about it being suspended for longer. all he said was to show up for the court date and everything would be taken care of and i'd be good to go.
Yeah, and if a guy joined in on a group-rape the cops will let him go if he tells them who his buddies are too. :lol: Everything will be taken care of...and you'll be good to go.......on a bus. TO be fair, maybe he wasn't making stuff up, maybe he honestly was thinking of something else.
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but from what im getting from you...i'll get a fine (which i already got and payed for), and if im totally unlucky a suspension for 6 months correct?
Actually, what I'm saying is you WILL get your licenced suspended for another 6 months barring a miracle, and if you're totally unlucky you'll get another fine. Like I said, the suspension isn't optional, the fine is.
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now i've also been told that showing up all clean n respectable, especially with my parents, who are refusing not to come, the judge will see that as a good thing and might be a bit more leniant...is that true?
Don't show up looking like a punk. I don't think parents make a big difference. Just don't walk in looking like a gangster and acting tough, that's what pisses the court off. People show up in their jeans with their bright red hat on half sideways, and the judge has to ask them to remove their hat, they go on about how the cop was just hasseling him 'cause he was young, blah blah. Everyone says they'd never act like that, but I saw it alot in traffic court while waiting to testify.
People forget that the police officer, the legal system, and the laws aren't the ones on trial. You are. And bashing or blaming other things doesn't help your case, it just makes you look like a punk. But wear a nice suit, have a shave or at least make sure you look well groomed if you wanna keep your facial hair, and use lots of "sirs" and "ma'ams". If asked to describe what happened it's always "the officer did" and "the officer said", never "the fucken pigs" or "the cop". The more respect you show everyone, the more respect they'll show you, and that means the better chance you have of catching a break.
But seriously, I'd bet my entire next paycheck you'll be kissing your licence goodbye for another 6 months. |
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| jib_freak |
guy i really don't understand how people like you function daily...seriously, why the fuck would i use my friends passing away as an excuse?! im sorry he was a close friend and i had to deal with a lot of shit...
and yea, my license got suspended and i intentionally said fuck that im gonna drive anyways!!
get a life :asshole: |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
guy i really don't understand how people like you function daily...seriously, why the fuck would i use my friends passing away as an excuse?! im sorry he was a close friend and i had to deal with a lot of shit...
and yea, my license got suspended and i intentionally said fuck that im gonna drive anyways!!
get a life :asshole:
He's in the army. Being blunt and hard isn't an option. Maybe someday he'll soften up after he gets out and becomes a normal civilian again, but for now, you have to accept that if you fuck up, STiPWR is gonna shit down your throat and ask if you want dessert. You can either accept that, or fight with him. But you won't win.
EDITED because apparently I don't know how to spell dessert, and I highly doubt you'll be offered a desert, though I hear PPCLI is heading back to Afghan in 07 (or is it 08?) but for Force Protection this time. What a yawn, you clowns are going to be so bored compared to last time. |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
guy i really don't understand how people like you function daily...seriously, why the fuck would i use my friends passing away as an excuse?! im sorry he was a close friend and i had to deal with a lot of shit...
and yea, my license got suspended and i intentionally said fuck that im gonna drive anyways!!
get a life :asshole:
Well you did use him as an excuse re-read what you typed.
And yes you intentionally drove... You got the ticket to prove it... |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
He's in the army. Being blunt and hard isn't an option. Maybe someday he'll soften up after he gets out and becomes a normal civilian again, but for now, you have to accept that if you fuck up, STiPWR is gonna shit down your throat and ask if you want desert. You can either accept that, or fight with him. But you won't win.
haha:thumbup:
Dtjohnst +1 in my books:D |
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| jib_freak |
dtjohnst...thanks for your info on this man, seriously...as shitty as the situation might be, its definately good knowing what is most likely going to happen
i'm looking at the fine/ticket the officer gave me and its under section 51(1)
now i don't know what that exactly means so if you (dtjohnst) can fill me in a bit more that would be appreciated
and the sarcasm and stupid remarks from everyone can stop too...not needed here...all im asking for is the right information |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
dtjohnst...thanks for your info on this man, seriously...as shitty as the situation might be, its definately good knowing what is most likely going to happen
i'm looking at the fine/ticket the officer gave me and its under section 51(1)
now i don't know what that exactly means so if you (dtjohnst) can fill me in a bit more that would be appreciated
and the sarcasm and stupid remarks from everyone can stop too...not needed here...all im asking for is the right information
There is no 51(1). 51 only has one subpart, but several paras. It could be 51(i) I suppose, but like I said, a cop can't issue a fine for that. Is there a letter anywhere there? 51(1)(b) or something? Everything in 51 is lettered, not numbered, though I supposed saying 51(1)(x) is technically correct, it's just redundant to include the (1).
I assume you have a separate document for your court date, what does it say?
EDIT: Are you sure it's not 52(1)(b)? That'd be driving a vehicle knowing it's unregistered, which is why you said the cop initially stopped you. That's $345. In 51, the only things that are $345 are (j) through (s). Maybe it was 51(L)....A lowercase L looks like a 1, that's $345, and that's for posessing a licence that's suspended. Your court date will be for driving with a suspended licence in all likelihood, which is a subtle difference, but a difference all the same. |
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| jib_freak |
stipwr you can go shove your fuckin army issued forks and knives up your arrogant fucking ass if you think im lieing about my story.
and yes, the fucking thing did "slip my mind"...or "i forgot"...i don't give a shit who believes or doesn't believe that fact, its true. think whatever the hell you want to stipwr...im sorry im not in the army and don't instantly get over peoples fucking deaths, especially when they're friends...for regular people who feel regular emotions and regular pain it hits differently...and for me it hit hard...and yes, i "forgot" or W/E about my suspension, i wasn't at work for a day or so, didn't talk to anybody...take it how you want buddy...you don't know me and don't mean jack shit to me you heartless piece of shit |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
stipwr you can go shove your fuckin army issued forks and knives up your arrogant fucking ass if you think im lieing about my story.
and yes, the fucking thing did "slip my mind"...or "i forgot"...i don't give a shit who believes or doesn't believe that fact, its true. think whatever the hell you want to stipwr...im sorry im not in the army and don't instantly get over peoples fucking deaths, especially when they're friends...for regular people who feel regular emotions and regular pain it hits differently...and for me it hit hard...and yes, i "forgot" or W/E about my suspension, i wasn't at work for a day or so, didn't talk to anybody...take it how you want buddy...you don't know me and don't mean jack shit to me you heartless piece of shit
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| jib_freak |
ok i have two tickets/write ups here...one yellow, one pink
what the yellow ticket says is 51(1) posssess operators license not subsisting...under traffic safety act for $345
what the pink ones says is 94(2) drive while unauthorized...both of them have november 23rd court dates on them...but the yellow one is an offense notice and the pink is a summons notice
i got pulled over because the officer ran my plates randomly, found out first off that the car wasn't registered in my name yet because id only had it for a couple days, but also found out about the suspended license and pulled me over |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
ok i have two tickets/write ups here...one yellow, one pink
what the yellow ticket says is 51(1) posssess operators license not subsisting...under traffic safety act for $345
what the pink ones says is 94(2) drive while unauthorized...both of them have november 23rd court dates on them...but the yellow one is an offense notice and the pink is a summons notice
i got pulled over because the officer ran my plates randomly, found out first off that the car wasn't registered in my name yet because id only had it for a couple days, but also found out about the suspended license and pulled me over
Ok, that answers the questions. It is 51(L) then, not 51(1). That's possess an operators licence not subsisting and is a $345 fine.
94(2) is what I mentioned in my first post, except I lumped it all up as 94. 94(1) just defines what makes someone unauthorized. The punishment for that is a court appearance, automatic 6 month suspension from date of conviction (so 23 Nov), and a fine up to $2000 with jail time for non-payment or for a 2nd offence.
I wouldn't have paid the 51(l) fine yet. The judge might've chucked that one since you were getting charged under 94(2) anyways, but it's too late now. I'd still recommend you lawyer up. It isn't that I think 6 months is too harsh a punishment or that you'll get a big fine, it's the record you'll have. Your insurance will be through the roof for a long time. And if there's any chance at all that a lawyer can help reduce things, it'd be worth it. |
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| jib_freak |
yeaaaa i made a mistake above...all i've paid for so far was an overdue ticket i had from a little while ago...still have the $345 to pay, but by the sound of it should hold on that until my court date, is that what you're telling me?
now heres a question you can bash on all you want...i still want to know if it will hold any validity in court or anything. does me having taken drivers ed and the defensive driving course (two things my parents made me take before i got my own car) carry any effect on the situation when i get into court or not? and also...im a good old gdl driver...missed the old style licensing by 2 days!! is that going to make things better or worse?? |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
yeaaaa i made a mistake above...all i've paid for so far was an overdue ticket i had from a little while ago...still have the $345 to pay, but by the sound of it should hold on that until my court date, is that what you're telling me?
now heres a question you can bash on all you want...i still want to know if it will hold any validity in court or anything. does me having taken drivers ed and the defensive driving course (two things my parents made me take before i got my own car) carry any effect on the situation when i get into court or not? and also...im a good old gdl driver...missed the old style licensing by 2 days!! is that going to make things better or worse??
Neither one will have any effect in terms of leniancy from the court. If you were in court trying to decide who was at fault for an accident in a lawsuit, it might. But how good a driver or how much experience you have has no bearing on driving while suspended.
If you're still on GDL, your timer gets reset. Once you get your licence back, you will have 3 demerits, and you will have to wait a year before taking the test for the real deal. Which sucks for you.
Ok, it makes sense you didn't pay the first one. I didn't think you could until on or after the court date. But yeah, hang on to it, and the judge will probably just keep that in mind during sentencing and issue you an appropriate fine for both. If you're unlucky, he might find you guilty of both separately, but my experience is that if you aren't an ass in court, the judge will drop the posessing a suspended licence charge and just add the fine on. So if he was gonna fine you $800 for 94(2), he'd assess you $1145 instead and drop the 51(l). The demerits are irrelevant since all GDL have 3 demerits after a suspension regardless of what they had before. |
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| jib_freak |
i was told by the ama that i have 5 demerits when i get my license reinstated...and he knew i was gdl...
and as far as the time clock on the gdl going back, yes, i know that part...and because of that it will take me 2 years until i can take the actual road test, not one...i have to have one year completely free of any traffic violations or anything...this is something i know for a fact
and no offense to you man...but what you just told me along those lines kidn of makes me wonder if the rest of the stuff you've told me has any truth in it??
can i ask where you go your information from?? |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
i was told by the ama that i have 5 demerits when i get my license reinstated...and he knew i was gdl...
and as far as the time clock on the gdl going back, yes, i know that part...and because of that it will take me 2 years until i can take the actual road test, not one...i have to have one year completely free of any traffic violations or anything...this is something i know for a fact
and no offense to you man...but what you just told me along those lines kidn of makes me wonder if the rest of the stuff you've told me has any truth in it??
can i ask where you go your information from??
I'm from MB, there it's only 1 year to go from Novice to Full. As for 3 demerits....
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From http://www.saferoads.com/drivers/drivers_gdl_qa.html
Note: If a novice driver’s licence is suspended with 8 or more demerit points, the licence will be reinstated following the suspension with 3 demerit points.
Maybe it's different if it's suspended for an offence.
Don't believe me? I don't care, I'm not the one asking for help. But I've given you quotes and references to everything. Feel free to look it up yourself. Or pay your fines and think you'll keep your licence. It's your call. I have nothing invested in this, I get to drive either way. |
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| jib_freak |
i think our gdl systems are apparently different from province to province haha! no offense meant towards you man, just this whole bit of news all at once is a bit overwhelming and like every other person who gets fucked over, i want to know for sure the facts you know?
i honestly appreciate you helping me out with the information though man
one more question for you though...this is my first offense...do you think a judge will take that into consideration at all in court or no?
either way...ive been told it could be suspended an extra month by the police station phone lady person haha, and now 6 months by you and by some saying i could get reeeeeally fucking lucky and get it back on the 23rd...who knows though right??
if anything, it gets suspended longer...take the insurance off it, or keep it on...w/e...just gives me time to save up and work on my car and somewhere warm to smoke in the winter hahaha |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
i think our gdl systems are apparently different from province to province haha! no offense meant towards you man, just this whole bit of news all at once is a bit overwhelming and like every other person who gets fucked over, i want to know for sure the facts you know?
i honestly appreciate you helping me out with the information though man
one more question for you though...this is my first offense...do you think a judge will take that into consideration at all in court or no?
either way...ive been told it could be suspended an extra month by the police station phone lady person haha, and now 6 months by you and by some saying i could get reeeeeally fucking lucky and get it back on the 23rd...who knows though right??
if anything, it gets suspended longer...take the insurance off it, or keep it on...w/e...just gives me time to save up and work on my car and somewhere warm to smoke in the winter hahaha
It is different from province to province, I just thought AB was also a year. I never had to deal with GDL here.
You will likely get leniancy, yes. I don't know how much, but some.
I'll post it again since apparently you didn't read it:
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Punishment re driving while disqualified
95(1) A person who is guilty of contravening section 94 is liable
(a) for a first offence to a fine of not more than $2000 and in default of payment to a term of imprisonment of not less than 14 days nor more than 6 months, and
(b) for each subsequent offence committed within one year after the commission of the offence referred to in clause (a), to imprisonment for a term of not less than 14 days nor more than 6 months.
(2) Subject to section 98, a person who is guilty of contravening section 94 is disqualified from driving a motor vehicle in Alberta for a period of 6 months from the day of the finding of guilt
Notice how it says "not more than $2000"? That means anything less than $2000 can be issued as the court sees fit.
Why didn't they say "for a period of up to 6 months" if it could be less? Because it can't. A judge CAN issue something less or more than what the law says under special circumstances, but these aren't special. Like I said, I've given you references. Believe what some lady on the phone says if you want, but the law is the law. Look it up.
http://www.qp.gov.ab.ca/documents/A...isbn=0779715136 |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
stipwr you can go shove your fuckin army issued forks and knives up your arrogant fucking ass if you think im lieing about my story.
and yes, the fucking thing did "slip my mind"...or "i forgot"...i don't give a shit who believes or doesn't believe that fact, its true. think whatever the hell you want to stipwr...im sorry im not in the army and don't instantly get over peoples fucking deaths, especially when they're friends...for regular people who feel regular emotions and regular pain it hits differently...and for me it hit hard...and yes, i "forgot" or W/E about my suspension, i wasn't at work for a day or so, didn't talk to anybody...take it how you want buddy...you don't know me and don't mean jack shit to me you heartless piece of shit
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| glad you got a kick out of that 300zgal...but again, i would appreciate if anyone without something worthwhile to say would stay out of this thread...thanks! |
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| STiPWR |
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| MX5 Miata Guy |
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Originally posted by joker
If you have nothing constructive to contribute to the thread then beat it.
Then that would apply to the original poster too...as he's been repeatedly told that it's an AUTOMATIC (ie: no descretion) SIX MONTH suspension...but all he does is keep whining. If he wants a real opinion...go to PoinTTS or get another lawyer.
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| joker |
That was a blanket statement for everyone.
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Originally posted by MX5 Miata Guy
Then that would apply to the original poster too...as he's been repeatedly told that it's an AUTOMATIC (ie: no descretion) SIX MONTH suspension...but all he does is keep whining. If he wants a real opinion...go to PoinTTS or get another lawyer.
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| jib_freak |
i'm sorry i tried to clarify everyones points in this situation...i just wanted to make sure everyone was saying the same thing to make sure i really am getting fucked that bad on this which i am so chill out...i was only asking because i need to figure out rides now because i coach skiing and work at a shop all winter...kind of hard without a license or car and stop acting like you wouldn't do the same thing if you were in the same position
thanks for your help guys and huge enthusiasm guys |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
i'm sorry i tried to clarify everyones points in this situation...i just wanted to make sure everyone was saying the same thing to make sure i really am getting fucked that bad on this which i am so chill out...i was only asking because i need to figure out rides now because i coach skiing and work at a shop all winter...kind of hard without a license or car and stop acting like you wouldn't do the same thing if you were in the same position
thanks for your help guys and huge enthusiasm guys
Actually, if someone gave me a reference and a link in their first reply that said something, then no. I wouldn't do the same thing. I'd check the reference, verify it's current, then go cry in a corner that I'm losing my shit after I bought a new car........the day my licence was suspended......if I ever bought a new car on the day I lose my priviledges...or....ever lose my privelidges. |
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| 95EagleAWD |
As useful as users like dtjohnst and the other cops we have on the board are... if you really want to know how badly you're gonna get fucked..
Talk to a lawyer in real life!!!
Might save you some trouble.
And Aaron: :lol: |
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| stybscelica |
| Jib Freak check your PM |
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| Nis13 |
dtjohnst are you a cop?
And for the record how do you forget your license has been suspended no matter who died? I don't get it how can you get in your car turn it on and drive somewhere forgetting your license is suspened.
Ok sure maybe you did? But i doubt thats gonna fly with anyone.. |
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| jib_freak |
you guys can all say w/e you want...have w/e opinion you prefer...my story was not bullshit in any way...not proud of it by any means either and i regret doing it but it happened and i dealt with it...
i took everyones advice and lawyered up. he actually got the charge changed...6 month suspension dropped...only paying a $230 fine...and no demerits taken, although its obviously going on my abstract.
to anyone who is ever in a bind. call Pointts, they are life savers and worth every penny and minute you have.
thanks for your guys' help/abuse/criticism...some of it helped
erik |
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| Nis13 |
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Originally posted by jib_freak
you guys can all say w/e you want...have w/e opinion you prefer...my story was not bullshit in any way...not proud of it by any means either and i regret doing it but it happened and i dealt with it...
i took everyones advice and lawyered up. he actually got the charge changed...6 month suspension dropped...only paying a $230 fine...and no demerits taken, although its obviously going on my abstract.
to anyone who is ever in a bind. call Pointts, they are life savers and worth every penny and minute you have.
thanks for your guys' help/abuse/criticism...some of it helped
erik
nice will keep that in mind
PS: your a lucky bastard :D |
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| dtjohnst |
Nobody called your story bullshit, we just said that's the worst excuse in history.
No, not a cop anymore. I used to carry a badge and a gun with the military police. As much as people think we aren't real cops, we are, there's just certain acts we can't enforce off-base without an order in privy council or a request for aid to the civil power. But we need to know it all. My problem is I'm shaky on Alberta acts and regulations. I only worked here for 2 months and it was back in 98. Most of my experience was with MB law so that's what I keep falling back on when I get confused by something.
stybscelica is still a peace officer I believe, just not with an actual police force. I think he's a wildlife conservation officer, which again, is a real cop just certain acts they can't enforce though likely know a lot about. They helped us at work nab a car theif we suspected was a poacher. Too bad RCMP showed up at the last minute after telling us they wouldn't come out and snagged the arrest for their file despite the fact that Conservation did a ton more than they did and was actively involved in the showdown.
I recall someone else here saying they had used to be a cop too, but I don't remember who they were. Anyways, Stybs is more current on AB law, I just used to have more time to do research, which I don't anymore. So best to differ to him on dicey issues.
PS. Pointts are lawyers now? I thought they were all just retired cops./ |
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