| cbourbs |
| i have an 05 sti, i bought it from the states. so when i got here it had to pass provincial and federal inspections to pass. but i got pulled over just over a month ago for a tinting ticket. i honestly though that it was legal because it passed all the fedral and provincial inspection regultions? |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by cbourbs
i have an 05 sti, i bought it from the states. so when i got here it had to pass provincial and federal inspections to pass. but i got pulled over just over a month ago for a tinting ticket. i honestly though that it was legal because it passed all the fedral and provincial inspection regultions?
Those regulations ensure it meets safety standards, not laws. There's no federal law on tint, Alberta law says you can't have film on any window beside or in front of the driver.
Your argument will be ignorance of the law, which usually doesn't work. You might be ok if you remove the tint and bring proof it's been removed to court. |
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| cbourbs |
| ok thank you very much!!!!:) |
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| Don_vito |
| just roll the windows down when u see 5.0 make sure ur not blazing tho |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
just roll the windows down when u see 5.0 make sure ur not blazing tho
And the windshield? Or if they ask you to roll them back up? |
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| Don_vito |
| windshield shouldnt be tinted(girls cant see u) , as for the windows as long as ur cruising and u see cops before they see u roll down ur and the pass. window, shouldnt have any reason to pull u over...just smile |
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| jzz30tt |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
windshield shouldnt be tinted(girls cant see u) , as for the windows as long as ur cruising and u see cops before they see u roll down ur and the pass. window, shouldnt have any reason to pull u over...just smile
Hrm what if it's -40. Might seem a little odd.:lol: |
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| Don_vito |
| ^^say ur claustrophobic |
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| 180sxforthewin |
| Maybe abiding by the law and not tinting your windows is the best answer:dunno:. |
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| Don_vito |
| doesnt make sencse tho, when i got a ticket for it i asked him what was wrong with tinting... and they told me it was for if it breaks it wont shatter all over the place so i thought to myself...wouldnt the tinting adheisive film hold all the pieces together better? didnt wanna start arguing with a cop and pull a rodney king |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
doesnt make sencse tho, when i got a ticket for it i asked him what was wrong with tinting... and they told me it was for if it breaks it wont shatter all over the place so i thought to myself...wouldnt the tinting adheisive film hold all the pieces together better? didnt wanna start arguing with a cop and pull a rodney king
Exactly. With tint it WON'T shatter, as it's supposed to. Is that safer or not? Who knows. Alberta Government has decided it's not. Complain to your MLA. |
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| Don_vito |
| meh thats alright paying the ticket is cheaper than getting retinted:beer: |
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| 180sxforthewin |
| If it shatters you can see through, Cracked glass against dark film would be difficult to see through. |
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| Don_vito |
| if it shatters u wouldnt have a window so ya they cann see u thru, with tint u still have a window till u get it fixed:thumbup: |
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| 180sxforthewin |
| Good luck seeing through a millions cracks, That would piss you off after a minute of driving |
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| Don_vito |
| oh ya it would piss me off just for 1 day cause thats all it'd take me to go get it fixed but i'd piss me off more having no window in this weather |
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| dtjohnst |
Let's be honest here folks, if an impact is going to shatter your windshield, your car isn't going anywhere. The concern isn't being able to see through it. Windows are designed to shatter as a safety feature, so they say. I think the idea being a small, 2 cm glass sliver in the neck is better than a 3 foot glass harpoon through the throat. The argument against that is that the window won't come through and kill you, it'll be held together by the tint. Like I said, the AB gov't decided otherwise.
But there's other factors. An emergency worker arrives on scene to your car accident and your window is intact, no shatters no cracks nothing. No one is around to be seen but the damage to your car is extensive. Perhaps it's on fire. So they break out the center puch, your window only half-shaters but remains in place because of the tint. Now the jaws of life need to be used or crowbars, or whatever to try and break through.
Then let's say they break through.....it turns out you had already left and walked to the nearest gas station, the fire hits the gas tank, car explodes, 4 workers die trying to save nobody, because you wanted tinted glass and they couldn't see inside.
There's lots of reasons why tint is a bad idea. If you're going to do it, don't do it too dark and people will leave you alone. But be aware of the consequences of doing so. Please don't be a selfish nat like the people who practice drifting in traffic and then whine about how it's no big deal. Understand that there is a chance, though remote, that you endanger people with your choice, and weigh that against "looking cool." |
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| Don_vito |
| Winshield should not be tinted as for that already has some shatter proof film on it(cant see it but its there) found that out on the highway when a truck kicked a rock @130 totally spiderwebbing it and not getting a single piece on me, as for tinting hazards if the paramedics really wanna break ur window they will, it may not shatter in a million pieces but the glass would be all soft and twisty they can just rip it off and theres more to tinting besides looking cool I.E: keeping ur car cooler on the inside in summer, keeping cars from glaring u thru the back window into the mirrors and privacy. |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
Winshield should not be tinted as for that already has some shatter proof film on it(cant see it but its there) found that out on the highway when a truck kicked a rock @130 totally spiderwebbing it and not getting a single piece on me, as for tinting hazards if the paramedics really wanna break ur window they will, it may not shatter in a million pieces but the glass would be all soft and twisty they can just rip it off and theres more to tinting besides looking cool I.E: keeping ur car cooler on the inside in summer, keeping cars from glaring u thru the back window into the mirrors and privacy.
Yes, they can get in, I never said they couldn't, but it takes more time. And if there's some risk involved in being around your car, ie it's on fire, they might be spending extra time for nothing, risking their lives so you can look cool.
Tint won't keep your car cool. Maybe a degree or two, which is nothing. I don't understand what "keeping cars from glaring u thru the back window" means. And privacy, like I said, not important. People need to be able to see the driver, your privacy doesn't matter. |
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| cbourbs |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
Yes, they can get in, I never said they couldn't, but it takes more time. And if there's some risk involved in being around your car, ie it's on fire, they might be spending extra time for nothing, risking their lives so you can look cool.
Tint won't keep your car cool. Maybe a degree or two, which is nothing. I don't understand what "keeping cars from glaring u thru the back window" means. And privacy, like I said, not important. People need to be able to see the driver, your privacy doesn't matter.
spoken like a true police officer!!:p just kidding lol!!
i ended up turtling and paying my ticket. to tell you the truth it's cheaper to pay the ticket then to get my tint taken off and fight it!! i don't think that's the right attitude, but what you gonna do and i'm still keep my tint on and probably get another ticket!! but i don't think the police are real sticklers about it are they?. i was caught in a check people mufflers and seatbelts and tinting trap!again what you gonna do? |
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| Don_vito |
| looking cool would be last on my list if my cars on fire, which would most likely blow up before somebody even gets there in the first place, and by reducing glare i mean having ur back window tinted would lessen asshole's in suv's or trucks headlight beams behind you which then reflects onto ur rearview mirrors which the reflecs to ur face , i say this because my winter beater accord isnt tinted and im constantly getting blinded by ppl behind me even with low beam halogens, and privacy...noone needs to be staring at at u thru there window sisde to side to be a better driver all u need to see is the car and light signals...but hey i got my way of looking at this u got urs |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
all u need to see is the car and light signals...
WRONG!!
I hope never to have to share the road with you. |
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| Don_vito |
| yeah me neither, i wouldnt like to exchange handsignals or winks maybe even blow kisses if ur gf is with you:dunno: |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
looking cool would be last on my list if my cars on fire, which would most likely blow up before somebody even gets there in the first place, and by reducing glare i mean having ur back window tinted would lessen asshole's in suv's or trucks headlight beams behind you which then reflects onto ur rearview mirrors which the reflecs to ur face , i say this because my winter beater accord isnt tinted and im constantly getting blinded by ppl behind me even with low beam halogens, and privacy...noone needs to be staring at at u thru there window sisde to side to be a better driver all u need to see is the car and light signals...but hey i got my way of looking at this u got urs
What about people who want to see if you see them before moving? They can't.
And incidently, you can tint the back window, so there goes your other arguments. |
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| Don_vito |
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by dtjohnst
What about people who want to see if you see them before moving? They can't.
And incidently, you can tint the back window, so there goes your other arguments.
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the poeple who wanna see me can which makes no difference if i move or not unless there blind and cant see road work or what have you up ahead to see why im not moving ahead, plus i never said i had limo tinto all around my car
and as for the comment:And incidently, you can tint the back window, so there goes your other arguments.
so if i can get the back window tintdoesnt that mean my arguement is right? i dunno i didnt really get that |
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| dtjohnst |
What I'm saying is that there's no need to argue about the back window because you can tint it all you want. You're argument isn't "wrong", it's just "invalidated" by the fact that it's not required. I apologize for the confusion.
I delivered pizza for awhile, and my side windows are tinted. Trust me, I have nowhere near limo tint, and I couldn't see fuck all compared to the windows down, and seeing out is always easier. So if someone wants to make eye contact or see what you're up to at night, even with light tint, they can't, and that makes it more dangerous.
Like I said, my windows are tinted too, I'm not saying you're an asshole for doing it, I'm just explaining the reasons in response to the question on WHY they're illegal. I'm giving the opinion of the courts, not mine. |
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| Don_vito |
| I know that what ur saying is the point of view of the court , what im wondering is if ur getting a comission for backing them up, what really bothers me is that im not allowed to have tint on my windows while RHD is legal...just the hypocracy of democracyis something i cant agree on. |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
I know that what ur saying is the point of view of the court , what im wondering is if ur getting a comission for backing them up, what really bothers me is that im not allowed to have tint on my windows while RHD is legal...just the hypocracy of democracyis something i cant agree on.
Why would I get a comission for backing them up? I'm explaining the courts logic so people can make an informed decision, I'm not "backing up" anything. If you don't want to know why the courts feel the way they do, stop making arguments against it. Lots of people come here asking about tint. LOTS. way too many. So me arguing the courts side isn't purely for your benefit.
And wtf does RHD have to with tint? They are 2 wholly different issues, so I don't see how that's hypocracy. |
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| Don_vito |
If someone is to talk on the courts behalf it should be a judge not some guy on a forums, im just posting how i feel about how that law is stupid to the sti kid that started this thread...when the LOTS of people ask about a car mod they wanna do to their car as an enthusiast im gonna be all for it even if its ''illegal''(not meaning strapping ak 47's on the roof),people should be encouraged to personalize there cars for whom they are,without the opinions of concerned citizens.
As for my rhd comment i meant that driving a rhd on lhd road is more dangerous than having some film on ur windows.
oh and what does EBP mean on ur lude? |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
If someone is to talk on the courts behalf it should be a judge not some guy on a forums, im just posting how i feel about how that law is stupid to the sti kid that started this thread...when the LOTS of people ask about a car mod they wanna do to their car as an enthusiast im gonna be all for it even if its ''illegal''(not meaning strapping ak 47's on the roof),people should be encouraged to personalize there cars for whom they are,without the opinions of concerned citizens.
As for my rhd comment i meant that driving a rhd on lhd road is more dangerous than having some film on ur windows.
oh and what does EBP mean on ur lude?
Oh yeah, because a judge is available to come here and answer the question every 4 days when someone asks about tint.
C'mon man, I'm not giving interpretations, I'm explaining why the courts feel tint is dangerous enough to be illegal, don't be such a stick in the mud. As I've said, MY WINDOWS ARE TINTED. I'm not saying "don't do it", I'm saying "this is why it's illegal, make your own decisions." So give it up already.
I don't think RHD cars are dangerous. :dunno: You got some figures that back up how dangerous they are compared to non?
EBP is the colour. Electron Blue Pearl. |
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| Don_vito |
Thats why forums arent the proper place to discuss law matters...if someone has an inquiry about laws or tickets they should talk to a judge, ppl on forums are just gonna tell them w/e they want just like some 15 year old kid told me he wanted a silvia to give girls rides home and burn rubber.
I find left turns if anovice driver on RHD a little dangerous, yeah and drive thrus but thats not on the danger side , glaring other drivers head on(jdm headlights are tilted a little more the other way to help see road signs) and thats preety much all i could think off right now.
hmm so i guess that makes mine a NBP ...interesting |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Don_vito
Thats why forums arent the proper place to discuss law matters...if someone has an inquiry about laws or tickets they should talk to a judge, ppl on forums are just gonna tell them w/e they want just like some 15 year old kid told me he wanted a silvia to give girls rides home and burn rubber.
I find left turns if anovice driver on RHD a little dangerous, yeah and drive thrus but thats not on the danger side , glaring other drivers head on(jdm headlights are tilted a little more the other way to help see road signs) and thats preety much all i could think off right now.
hmm so i guess that makes mine a NBP ...interesting
People don't come here with injuries. They come to ask what they can and can't do before they tint. Like I said, give it up. I will continue to answer questions. |
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| Don_vito |
Read carefully it doesnt say injury it says INQUIRY look that up if u dont know what it means.
and if im not mistaken ppl come here AFTER they tinted not just before ...kinda like the sti guy.
And im not giving anything up till ppl think a little bit for themselves before posting. |
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| dtjohnst |
| I've seen multiple threads on here about people wanting to know about tint before they do it. :dunno: |
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| Nis13 |
| my windows are tinted and i got a ticket form them. the cop made me roll my window up. Then he gave me the ticket basicly just assumed my front ones were tinted becasue of my back 3. So it all depends on how much of an asshole the cop is. I payed the first one and ill pay the second. Or do what some people say and remove the tint and get reciptes and pictures and try and get out of the third:confused: |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Nis13
my windows are tinted and i got a ticket form them. the cop made me roll my window up. Then he gave me the ticket basicly just assumed my front ones were tinted becasue of my back 3. So it all depends on how much of an asshole the cop is. I payed the first one and ill pay the second. Or do what some people say and remove the tint and get reciptes and pictures and try and get out of the third:confused:
I'm pretty sure that won't work on the 3rd. The logic is to plead ignorance, which isn't a defence, but then back it up by having it all removed. The 3rd time a judge will probably laugh and ask you why you didn't remove it after the 1st 2 times. |
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| Nis13 |
| ^ yeah.. that makes sense. I like my tint though. And i think. its worth the fine until it starts getting ridiculous which I thought might of been justified the 3rd time around..:p |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Nis13
^ yeah.. that makes sense. I like my tint though. And i think. its worth the fine until it starts getting ridiculous which I thought might of been justified the 3rd time around..:p
Ditto. :thumbup: Love my tint. Luckily I haven't been ticketed yet. |
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| DaffyDuck |
| How big is the fine? |
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| DaffyDuck |
Sorry, didn't notice a sticky.
Thanks for the answer. |
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