| 300zxgal |
Alright guys.. i need to rant.
Why is it that in normal conditions, a significant percentage of large truck owners/drivers feel the need to drive along with their fog lights on. Because they sure as hell arent going to help you during periods of normal visibility. Instead, they ride your compact cars ass and blind you with these fog lights and wonder why you slow down. WELL IDIOTS ITS BECAUSE WITH YOUR FUCKING FOG LIGHTS IN ALL OUR MIRRORS WE CANT SEE THE FUCKING ROAD
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| little_one_der |
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Originally posted by Supra_devil
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| c.f.169 |
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Originally posted by little_one_der
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| Britain |
| Get rear facing for lights.. One of the guys i know has 4 8" pella's mounted in his front grill (between oem foglights).. That thing was awesome.. He had HID'S and when we drove on the highway (normal lights) we'd wait for people to flash us cause they thought our brights were on and hed flick on the foglights.. Honestly.. its like a cloud of light in front of the car.. Its crazy. I thought it was cool! |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by Britain
Get rear facing for lights.. One of the guys i know has 4 8" pella's mounted in his front grill (between oem foglights).. That thing was awesome.. He had HID'S and when we drove on the highway (normal lights) we'd wait for people to flash us cause they thought our brights were on and hed flick on the foglights.. Honestly.. its like a cloud of light in front of the car.. Its crazy. I thought it was cool!
It's people like you who should be given an idiot screening when applying for your drivers license.
what a stupid idea. yeah its funny blinding someone so they can't see where they are going. and if you have HIDS, you should know enough about cars so that you can position them as to NOT blind anyone within a half mile radius. |
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| shorti |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
It's people like you who should be given an idiot screening when applying for your drivers license.
Ding ding ding ding ding!!!
we have a winner |
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| TheNeonEdge |
Fog lights arn't as bad as when the yare 1 foot off your rear bumper with their headlights beaming directly into your eyes!
Even with tinted windows it sure is a bitch |
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| Orzel_pl |
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Originally posted by c.f.169
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| RacerGirl |
| I get that a lot, especially on cloverbar south of Wye. I hate those idiots that have their fog lights on right behind me, and then you pass another truck with them on as well so I am blinded in both directions. |
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| Murph |
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Originally posted by Britain
Get rear facing for lights.. One of the guys i know has 4 8" pella's mounted in his front grill (between oem foglights).. That thing was awesome.. He had HID'S and when we drove on the highway (normal lights) we'd wait for people to flash us cause they thought our brights were on and hed flick on the foglights.. Honestly.. its like a cloud of light in front of the car.. Its crazy. I thought it was cool!
I saw a truck awhile ago in my shop that had Aircraft landing lights on it. |
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| little_one_der |
IDEA: Mount one of those 15 million candle watt uber lights behind your rear window... lights in your eyes, flick on the night time sun!
EAT IT!!!
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| newtuner |
| I myself don't have fog lights on my truck, so I don't really blind people. I will say this is you see just as many cars driving with fog lights on aswell. So that throws the whole practical issue out the window. Just as many car drivers are guilty as truck drivers are of this. The only differance is the height between the two. If we had go carts on the road, they would be bitching about cars fog lights too. On a side note if your going to flash people for thier brights being on, don't wait until your 10 feet apart and blind them. This should be done a good distance away to make it easy on everybody.:dunno: |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Here's the issue, "fog" lights are 100% legal to run in combination with low beams. properly aimed fog lights should not "blind" other drivers.
The problem is when the fog lights aren't aimed properly or they are using driving lights as fogs. Now legally you can run up to 2 pair of driving lights, but only in combination with hi-beams.
Also a good number of newer vehicles use Fog's as drls(which is technically illegal, but not, if ya know what I mean.
Me on my wife's car I run the fog's at night all the time cause 90% of the time I'm on a highway and they help light up the ditch better.
My car, I can't find a fog that actualy does anything noticable so I have fogs, but I never turn them on.
As far as the rear light goes, I have a dual bulb 55W spot and 55W flood work light mounted to my hitch(on my car) it's primary role is an aux reverse light, or hooking up the trailer, etc, etc.. I think I've used it once or twice to let the guy behind me know he's running hi's.
On the HID I have HID's 6000K(I wanted 5000K) and they're in Hella ECE housings. Now I'm nice enough to have them reversed. Outter pair are standard Sylvania Xtravision bulbs(halogen), inner pair is a H1 Halogen/HID combo - HID's go on when no other cars are around, if cars are coming head on, but still far enough I can use hi's I switch to halogen hi's.
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| saladonthebeach |
As far as city driving with fog lights goes, it's simply ridiculous to flare them up on a clear night . No, fog light driving does not make your vehicle look better or go faster. In fact, I dare to say it's a somewhat of a hazard. Most fog lights are generally brighter than the actual headlights... being that said, adding brighter lights than typically normal... into someone's side and rear view mirrors can potentially cause problems. Especially, for people that have light sensitivity issues. They can also cause glare issues for some kinds of tempered glass.
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Dodge vehicles really piss me off at the moment, because it seems like all their focken cars and trucks come standard with huge fog lights that don't seem to have an override switch. The worse is getting some cock knocker, nightly, somewhere behind you at red lights who position their driver's side head and fog lights right into your side mirror, so you're pretty much blinded trying to watch for the green light. Fuck, I hate that, especially from big ass trucks. If they edged more over to the left, they'd be up on the fucking meridian. It seems like they intentionally position their vehicle to the left of yours, so they can spot lamp the gawddamn side mirror. So much for common courtesy, as if I believed E-town drivers had any left in the first place. Yeah, everyone is out for themselves. Got to watch out for the wayward wildlife running across avenues(rolls eyes). For anyone thinking I'm talking out of my ass.... one night, have a friend go behind your car and flash a spot light into your side mirror and see how many times you are able to blink before you don't see a black hole any longer. Maybe extreme, but you get the point, if your not oblivious that is. Yes, I'm aware that some vehicles are wider than others. Also, I know not everyone distinctly pays attention to try mating up side to side with other vehicles at red lights. Meh, not saying any of you are to blame... I just had to pop the top off of the steamer before I smashed my keyboard to bits. lolz
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I've got a Z24 with factory(small) fog lights, the car is also equipped with the activation switch, I have never once used them for city driving. There are of no use, even for nightly driving... that's why the city has focken street lights!!! Sure, I'll use them on the highway, but I'll also turn them off for approaching vehicles on single highways. Just a courtesy issue that I have, I guess. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by saladonthebeach
Dodge vehicles really piss me off at the moment, because it seems like all their focken cars and trucks come standard with huge fog lights that don't seem to have an override switch.
Last time i checked my fog lights have an override switch.
But I harley ever use them because they don't do fuck all. I haven't seen a set of factory fog/driving llights that do anything but lighten up the first 4 feet in front of your vehicle.
Now my 8" Lightforce lights are a different story. But then again I only turn them on when I am a) on a bush road or b) on the hiway where i can not see another pair of lights coming towards me. The instant I see another set of lights coming towards me I turn my 8" lights off. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by mwdguy
Last time i checked my fog lights have an override switch.
But I harley ever use them because they don't do fuck all. I haven't seen a set of factory fog/driving llights that do anything but lighten up the first 4 feet in front of your vehicle.
Now my 8" Lightforce lights are a different story. But then again I only turn them on when I am a) on a bush road or b) on the hiway where i can not see another pair of lights coming towards me. The instant I see another set of lights coming towards me I turn my 8" lights off.
here here. You pretty much do what I do, cept inthe wife's car, like I said when I'm being blinded by on coming cars the fogs do help light up the ditch better. And in her car, the head lights are way way brighter than the fogs. And in the fog they do help enough that they are worth using.
As far as the dodge hate on goes, every dodge I've seen the headlights are brighter than the fog's, it's the damn Ford trucks that suck, their headlights are dim, fogs are bright and angles way up |
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| fugumerkur |
Its not just the fog lamps, Low cars get the driving lights from SUV"s right in your face. WHen their highbeams are on though its ridiculous and dangerous, Foglamps and driving lights in mirrors in my opinion while driving in traffic is just a way to show your bling, useless and stupid..
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by fugumerkur
Its not just the fog lamps, Low cars get the driving lights from SUV"s right in your face. WHen their highbeams are on though its ridiculous and dangerous, Foglamps and driving lights in mirrors in my opinion while driving in traffic is just a way to show your bling, useless and stupid..
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I don't drive with my fog lights on but if I did they surely wouldn't blind you, oem fog lights are a joke, like mwdguy said they light up about 3-4 feet infront of the truck and are basiclly pointed right at the ground.
If your driving a lowered vehicle and they hit your mirrors now tough shit I guess..:dunno: But they aren't that bright at all so I don't see why everyone is complaining??
I have a harder time dealing with ppl who leave there brights than fog lights.
Now if they're aftermarket bulbs then I could see it being an issue but oem bulbs are that bright at all.. |
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| saladonthebeach |
I'm not exactly sure, but I think Dodge uses H3 bulbs for their fog/driving lights. If I knew the exact brand, I could find out the general output. However, whatever they use... I'm sure they flare up a little brighter than a household flashlight. Odd that if you look at the actual fog/driving lights, they appear flush with the bumper fascia facing directly ahead. If they were actually pointed down, the whole housing would need to be rotated as such. That's neither here nor there. The case at hand... coming around a corner at night, I appreciate only being temporarily blinded by two lights and not four on the front of one vehicle. lolz
Yeah, concerning pointing the finger at Dodge vehicles, it was unfair generalizing at best. That wasn't exactly fair, I apologize. There are plenty of other vehicles with the same blinding capabilities out there. Now that I know that most vehicles have an override switch, I can blame only the actual vehicle operator.
It's good to know that the majority of peeps here refrain from firing up the extra lights within city limits. Good to see that common sense and respect for other drivers prevails... at least with this bunch. Well, maybe that doesn't necessarily apply to the ones that use illegal headlight bulbs. :p |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by saladonthebeach
I'm not exactly sure, but I think Dodge uses H3 bulbs for their fog/driving lights. Odd that if you look at the actual fog/driving lights, they appear flush with the bumper fascia facing directly ahead.
Ummm mine are not flush, they are recessed. |
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| WorkInProgress |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
Alright guys.. i need to rant.
Why is it that in normal conditions, a significant percentage of large truck owners/drivers feel the need to drive along with their fog lights on. Because they sure as hell arent going to help you during periods of normal visibility. Instead, they ride your compact cars ass and blind you with these fog lights and wonder why you slow down. WELL IDIOTS ITS BECAUSE WITH YOUR FUCKING FOG LIGHTS IN ALL OUR MIRRORS WE CANT SEE THE FUCKING ROAD
/rant
Why?
Because the more lights we have on, the better we can see, and therefore it's safer because we have some warning when your little ricer asses think that the streets of Edmonton are part of the set for the "Fast and the Furious!"
Weaving in and out of traffic and cutting off our large trucks because you think we're all too slow, and that your tiny car can fit into the smallest of openings in traffic.
Now, obviously I don't think that every import owner in the city drives that way, not even a "large percentage" drive that way. I think your rash generalization and "rant" has nothing to do with the majority of truck drivers in Edmonton, and stems from the fact that you have road rage.
You might not be a poor driver, heck you might be a GREAT driver, but you let things get to you and affect your judgement.
Personally, my vehicle has the fog lights wired so that even when high-beams are activated, the fogs stay on. I do lots of highway travel, and if you've ever been up to Tumbler Ridge, BC or anywhere similar, you realize what pitch-black roads are really like.
I take offense to your little hissy-fit because I give other drivers the courtesy of NOT shining my lights in their mirrors, not all drivers are assholes when it comes to choice of headlights/foglights or any combination of the two.
Just the same way that not every import owner runs out and immediately puts blue/purple/red/green/yellow headlights+turn signals into their vehicles.
Lastly, if you're driving forwards, why would you use your mirrors to see the road? Rear-view and side-view mirrors are used for... Oh my god, seeing the road behind and to the side of you, I never would have guessed with names like "rear-view" and "side-view" it seems to me, that if someone pulled up behind you with extremely bright lights, you would want to get away from those beams as quickly as possible. So the most sensible thing to do, would be flip down your mirror, move over into the next lan, or speed up to get away from the offending lights.
Slowing down purposely is just a fucking tactic you use to piss off the driver behind you, who you think is using their lights just to annoy you. Did you ever stop to think that the world doesn't revolve around you or your car, and that some people just enjoy driving with the street lit will in front of them?
Now, I know there are assholes with lights WAYYY too goddamn bright out there, but they're not confined to the category of "large truck owners." |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Weaving in and out of traffic and cutting off our large trucks because you think we're all too slow, and that your tiny car can fit into the smallest of openings in traffic.
a 300zx is not a tiny car
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Now, obviously I don't think that every import owner in the city drives that way, not even a "large percentage" drive that way. I think your rash generalization and "rant" has nothing to do with the majority of truck drivers in Edmonton, and stems from the fact that you have road rage.
Road rage? obviously a few other people on this forum feel the same way. Rage has nothing to do with the fact that because of fog lights in my mirrors, or in my direct line of vision -i have problems seeing the road. Like when someone shines a pocket LED light in your eyes.. you can't see anything else
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Personally, my vehicle has the fog lights wired so that even when high-beams are activated, the fogs stay on. I do lots of highway travel, and if you've ever been up to Tumbler Ridge, BC or anywhere similar, you realize what pitch-black roads are really like.
There is a HUGE difference between some back road in Tumbler Ridge, BC, then Range road 231/232 between the whitmud and wye road. or the yellowhead. or the whitmud. or the anthony henday.
Huge Difference. And i think it's awesome that you have shown complete disregard for any other person driving in the city by having your "fog lights wired so that even when high-beams are activated, the fogs stay on"
I carefully worded my rant to state that I dont have a problem if there's.. say FOG on the road, or if the guy is in butt-fuck nowhere and needs to see if hes about to hit a tree. I Stated my problem was the use of them in NORMAL CITY DRIVING CONDITIONS.
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
I take offense to your little hissy-fit because I give other drivers the courtesy of NOT shining my lights in their mirrors, not all drivers are assholes when it comes to choice of headlights/foglights or any combination of the two.
you take offence to what someone you never met before said on the internet? Talk about a Hissy-fit
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Lastly, if you're driving forwards, why would you use your mirrors to see the road? Rear-view and side-view mirrors are used for... Oh my god, seeing the road behind and to the side of you, I never would have guessed with names like "rear-view" and "side-view" it seems to me, that if someone pulled up behind you with extremely bright lights, you would want to get away from those beams as quickly as possible. So the most sensible thing to do, would be flip down your mirror, move over into the next lan, or speed up to get away from the offending lights.
Alright.. small lesson in physics. When someone with fog lights ina large truck (typical to rig pigs) are behind a small compact car, the lights reflect off of the mirrors, into the drivers eyes. To which I again compare this too someone shining a pocket LED light into your eyes. Or reflected off of a mirror into ones eyes. Either way, this temporarily blinds the driver, making it impossible to see the road. Which brings me to my second point
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Slowing down purposely is just a fucking tactic you use to piss off the driver behind you, who you think is using their lights just to annoy you.
So if you cannot see the road, you should slow down, so that you can attempt to see where the road ends, and the ditch begins. Not as you suggest, speed up to get away. Great logic there.. lets accelerate our vehicle while my vision is temporarily blinded by fog lights.
I'm really happy you view common sense as a "fucking tactic you (I) use to piss off the driver behind you" (asshole in truck with unnecessary foglights).
I don't belive he is using the lights to annoy me. I think he is completely ignorant of the potentially dangerous situation he is putting other drivers in.
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Did you ever stop to think that the world doesn't revolve around you or your car, and that some people just enjoy driving with the street lit will in front of them?
The street lit well in front of them, now that is about as ignorant of a statement as you can get. So according to your position in the argument; it should be fine to drive around with your high-beams(fog lights) on so that the street is well lit in front of you, and screw anyone else if they don't like it.
Right?
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
Now, I know there are assholes with lights WAYYY too goddamn bright out there, but they're not confined to the category of "large truck owners."
ever consider you might be one of the assholes with lights WAYYY too goddamn bright.."
did you even read the replying posts? or did your rage just kick in when you read my rant?
Research is the key to validity. Never once did I suggest any statistics as fact that would cause the reader to perceive that I thought every single large truck owner was an asshole -However you are not helping the stereotype with you're useless whining drivel. GTFO or STFU until you can present a reasonable argument as to why it is necessary to have your fog lights wired so that they are on at all times. |
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| RacerGirl |
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
[B]Why?
Because the more lights we have on, the better we can see, and therefore it's safer because we have some warning when your little ricer asses think that the streets of Edmonton are part of the set for the "Fast and the Furious!"
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My car definatly is not on of those little "ricer" cars that you seem to dislike so much. Dude, I drive a Kia, which is completly stock, and gets me and my son from point A to B. You cannot blame the other drivers for slowing down when they are blinded by lights in both their rearview mirrors and side mirrors when they are driving on a secondary road. That is my first instinct as well, to slow down a little and try and see where the ditch is, especially in ice and snowy conditions. I am not going to speed up, or pull over when I have my son in the car with me when I cannot see where the road even is.
Sure, you need the bright lights on pitch black roads, but I do not consider 231/232 and 628 back roads at all. When I am driving on those roads, I don't have my high beams on if there is a car even remotely close to me. I can see well without having to blind other drivers. If there is nobody else around, of course I will use my high beams, but why risk another driver's safety if it is completly unnecessary? |
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| JeepGirl |
OMG!!!!! :bowdown: :bowdown:
thank you so very much for taking the time to explain how wrong it is to these thick headed people 300zxgal.
i drive really small bone stock 3G civic thats painted bright enough to be seen from space. why in gods name do you need to hit me with your highbeams and ride my ass and manouver yourself so that when we pull up to a red light your fucking beams are right in my mirrors?
my car isnt even lowered, its their jacked up trucks with a bajillion candle power and some stupid douchenozzle behind the wheel with more money than brains getting his kicks.
my car has poor lighting from the factory and there isnt much on the market to improve that, but do i drive around downtown at night with my highbeams on? uh... no, number one) i have no reason to be out late at night ..... number two) uh hello... ITS FUCKING RUDE!!
the only time i use my highbeams in the city is when i see someone driving with no lights at night, warning other drivers of a speed trap/obstruction, to signal another driver to take the right of way.
P.S. if someone knows of a sure fire way to improve my headlights lighting ability legaly i'd be interested... mine suck:mad: |
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| omniman69 |
i drive a trail rig, not a rig pig truck. Most of the people who go to uc and timmies see it. I have 2 100w OFF-ROAD lights mounted on the front push bar and they only come on when i hit the highbeams for, u guess it, times of highly reduced visibility(wired directly to high-side of headlights), or back-trail bashing, or when some jag-off rig pig decides to have his fogs and highs on and penis out the window.
my lights may be abit high, and might shine into the rear mirror of some cars, and i apologize for that, but not when i am driving 2 telephone-poll lengths behind someone, it will happen at a stop light.
the front of my truck currently has 2 h-4 replacement housings, 2 9003 sivlerstar bulbs, with the aforementioned OFF-ROAD lights wired in
jag-offs that run with their fogs and normal lights on should die in a fire. I wear glasses and the effect is multilied when a lifted truck pulls up behind and has the night lite up worse than vegas.
just my oinion-"i'm an asshole and i approve this message"
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| SilverNeonRacer |
In regards to WorkInProgress.
1. I may not drive in northern BC, but I do live in somewhat northern Alberta... and some nights, it gets pitch black out here, like you get out of your car to take a piss, or stretch your legs, you better leave atleast your markers on, cause you ain't finding your car again til day break.
2. Fogs on while Hi-beams on. A thats illegal. B it defeats the intended role of "Fog" lights.
3. I myself, as I have stated, Have said really friggin bright lights on my car, but I don't use them unless 1. They are needed, 2. is safe to do so.
4. Just cause it's legal to run fog's any time you want in combination with your low beams doesn't mean you should.
5. People who roll behind be with bright lights, fogs/driving/hi-beams learn about it real fast, I have equally as bright lights on the back of my car as I do the front. But they are there for a purpose, I do a lot of rural driving and I do haul a trailer alot, and having that light makes it possible to back up or turn around. And I try not to use them unless I really need to with other cars around.
it's all about courtiousy... now say 118th ave between 97st and 82st, is/was kinda dark, running fog's there to watch for drunks walking off the side walk, I could see, but alot of other roads it's not required. |
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| jberger |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
Alright guys.. i need to rant.
Why is it that in normal conditions, a significant percentage of large truck owners/drivers feel the need to drive along with their fog lights on. Because they sure as hell arent going to help you during periods of normal visibility. Instead, they ride your compact cars ass and blind you with these fog lights and wonder why you slow down. WELL IDIOTS ITS BECAUSE WITH YOUR FUCKING FOG LIGHTS IN ALL OUR MIRRORS WE CANT SEE THE FUCKING ROAD
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move your mirrors |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by jberger
move your mirrors
Ummm NO, my mirrors are setup perfectly I can see both lanes on either side of me, with minor movements of my head paralle park, and I can park my trailer and watch the front end of my car.
In other words, my mirrors are perfect for how I drive and need them, why should I adjust them just cause some guy wants to sit off set to my car. My car is wide enough and my mirrors small enough that you would have to try to blind me using them.
I've had semi's follow me on the highway running full out brights and air plane landing lights, and with the rear tint and flipping the mirror up it doesn't bother me... |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
5. People who roll behind be with bright lights, fogs/driving/hi-beams learn about it real fast, I have equally as bright lights on the back of my car as I do the front.
If someone had lights like yours on the back of a car flashed them at me they wouldnt work after i kicked them in. Turning lights on like that is extremely uncalled for. |
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| JeepGirl |
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Originally posted by omniman69
I wear glasses and the effect is multilied when a lifted truck pulls up behind and has the night lite up worse than vegas. mike
i to am a glasses wearer...... and i to can relate to the whole "Bright Lights in Vegas" trip... i even have that special anti-glare crap...
and to the jerk that suggested people "move their mirrors".... why dont you... drive with normal lights on city streets at night?
i have three mirrors on my car, you honestly expect me to move them manually every time some jerk-off with a bajillion candle power pulls right up behind me and rides my ass, even though there is an entirely empty lane(s) beside us.. all the while being blinded?
nope... i just nail my brakes, if just for a second or i just left my foot off the gas or i downshift:lol: he gets the fine for following to close and i get a new parts car. i dont know about you but when i get those highbeams flashing like a fucking disco ball in my mirrors i tend to lose sight of the road and sometimes its even looked like someone stepping off the sidewalk in front of me:dunno: what can ya do right?:thumbup:
i can guarantee you, your bosses/dads truck and insurance is worth a whole hell of alot more then my 20+ year old civic. maybe if that happens more these people will figure out that harassing the shit out of someone with your lights/truck isnt worth the hassle:lol: |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by JeepGirl
i to am a glasses wearer...... and i to can relate to the whole "Bright Lights in Vegas" trip... i even have that special anti-glare crap...
and to the jerk that suggested people "move their mirrors".... why dont you... drive with normal lights on city streets at night?
i have three mirrors on my car, you honestly expect me to move them manually every time some jerk-off with a bajillion candle power pulls right up behind me and rides my ass, even though there is an entirely empty lane(s) beside us.. all the while being blinded?
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Hi JeepGirl,
I am one of thoes jerks that adjusts their mirrors to reflect into the eyes of the driver behind me. Now granted this is while at a stop light and they are in a really big vehicle and or less than 2 feet from my rear bumper. Granted my mirrors are power. I would be less inclined if they are manual. The odd time I flip it into reverse just to put the lights on and watch them freak out and back up or honk their horn. :D
If in traffic, I slow down if they are tailing me. If that does not get them off my arse, then I put two wheels in a dirty surface or edge, pin it and spray them with all sorts of road debris untill they back off.
I have driven on dark roads in and out of the city with OEM lights. I have no issues with them. Sure brighter is better, but if you are following the posted limits then OEM is really all you need.
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by mwdguy
If someone had lights like yours on the back of a car flashed them at me they wouldnt work after i kicked them in. Turning lights on like that is extremely uncalled for.
As so is tailgating somebody with hi-beams on.
Ok, I forgot to mention, I flash my brake lights 3 times, if they don't get the hint I flash them(brake lights) again, and if they still don't get the hint... then they get the farmer backup lights.
At a stop I flash my oem reverse lights if I feel they're too close to me. |
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| nismokutz |
| whinners. i am one who leaves there fog lights on while driving on the highway. it does help u drive under normal driving conditions at night. i've passed thousands of other ford trucks that leave them on and they do not bother me one bit. suck it up its part of driving. stop whinning. i get flashed everytime i drive at nite even when i just have my low beams on, ihate the fuckers who wait to flash u at the last second when i have my low beams on. so i just leave my fogs on so i can see better. if they wanna still flash they can feel the wrath of my high beams, low beams and fogs all at once. |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by nismokutz
whinners. i am one who leaves there fog lights on while driving on the highway. it does help u drive under normal driving conditions at night. i've passed thousands of other ford trucks that leave them on and they do not bother me one bit. suck it up its part of driving. stop whinning. i get flashed everytime i drive at nite even when i just have my low beams on, ihate the fuckers who wait to flash u at the last second when i have my low beams on. so i just leave my fogs on so i can see better. if they wanna still flash they can feel the wrath of my high beams, low beams and fogs all at once.
Hi nismokutz,
I agree 100%. My beef is with the tool who tailgates me and lights up my car brighter than a world series baseball game.
If someone flashes me who is oncoming because they think my lights are bright, I will ignore it once. Twice, then they get the high beams to show them what bright really means.
If it is multiple flashes in a short period, I will apply alot of pressue to the brakes as it normally means speed trap ahead! :D
Afterall we have the option to not "look directly into the headlights" of oncoming traffic. Look away or to the side if they are bright to reduce temporary blindness.
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| lowryder |
| 300zxgal Havn't you been followed home like 900 times by drivers telling you that you drive like a dink? haha....you sure it's the other drivers out there that are the idiots? :p |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by lowryder
300zxgal Havn't you been followed home like 900 times by drivers telling you that you drive like a dink? haha....you sure it's the other drivers out there that are the idiots? :p
900 times. Yep
Most of the time I am minding my own business. I don't know exactly where you are from, but sherwood park people have this 'I'm better than you" complex. Again a generalization, however i have a few situations that back it up. Having driven with many different people in different vehicles and different situations i've come to a few general conclusions.
In sherwood park, if you are driving an SUV, nobodys going to bother you no matter what you do
If you are driving a shitbox car, everyone thinks they are better than you and tells you as such (follows you home because you can drive your shitbox better than they can drive their BMW SUV)
If you are driving a sportscar (expecially one with exhaust), the soccermoms and dads think you are up to no good (follows you home in the dodge caravan because you are obeying the law, but you MIGHT not next time) My brother has had problems with his integra.. and my brother is the most least controversial person i have ever met.
If you are driving a truck, they don't even notice if you're speeding/driving like a jackass.
Edmonton is different. I hardly have a problem with edmonton drivers unless they are obviously drunk or cant figure out what a merge lane or freeflow lane is (highlevel is a good example), or slwoer traffic keeps right.
Ive never had an edmonton resident say anything negative to me about my car or my driving. I had one guy even roll down his window and say 'nice move' with the thumbs up after avoiding an accident someone else would have caused. |
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| mwdguy |
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Originally posted by 300zxgal
. I had one guy even roll down his window and say 'nice move' with the thumbs up after avoiding an accident someone else would have caused.
He was saying "Nice Boobs" lol |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by mwdguy
He was saying "Nice Boobs" lol
lol OH! well then that changes things a little bit:lol: |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Kinda off topic, but I saw a ricer almost sideswipe a minivan in front of me near WEM, Ricer was turning right from an intersection, but the van was already there, I laid on my horn, the van swirved quite nicely without taking out any other cars, so me and the van pinned the ricer in and kept him at 20km/h for well quite a while, then as luck would have it me and the van where going to the same spot, so I told him good job with the ricer, we're talking full on stereotypical ricer, prelude, body kit, underglow, huge wing, tint all around, wheels from hell, hat on 270 degrees wrong, etc, oh and to quote the Dukes movie No Balls!
But umm yeah... |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
Kinda off topic, but I saw a ricer almost sideswipe a minivan in front of me near WEM, Ricer was turning right from an intersection, but the van was already there, I laid on my horn, the van swirved quite nicely without taking out any other cars, so me and the van pinned the ricer in and kept him at 20km/h for well quite a while, then as luck would have it me and the van where going to the same spot, so I told him good job with the ricer, we're talking full on stereotypical ricer, prelude, body kit, underglow, huge wing, tint all around, wheels from hell, hat on 270 degrees wrong, etc, oh and to quote the Dukes movie No Balls!
But umm yeah...
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by nismokutz
whinners. i am one who leaves there fog lights on while driving on the highway. it does help u drive under normal driving conditions at night. i've passed thousands of other ford trucks that leave them on and they do not bother me one bit. suck it up its part of driving. stop whinning. i get flashed everytime i drive at nite even when i just have my low beams on, ihate the fuckers who wait to flash u at the last second when i have my low beams on. so i just leave my fogs on so i can see better. if they wanna still flash they can feel the wrath of my high beams, low beams and fogs all at once.
Let me get this straight, you drive a truck, and the lights from other trucks don't bother you, so people who are sitting 3 or 4 feet lower than you in a car are obviously just whining since it shouldn't bother them either? I think you need to compare the two. Better yet, hop in a car now and then and see how it is and then tell me it's "whining".
The problem isn't that your lights "annoy" other drivers, though they do. The problem is that they are distracting. Now, while I will agree with you that fogs light up the road even during normal driving, they aren't "needed", at all. You can get by just fine without them.
SO the conclusion is that either your a selfish prick who doesn't care about other drivers so long as your lights benefit you, or you're just an asshole who's gonna do what you want because you don't care.
Someone mentioned lights getting kicked in when people in cars flash them at trucks that are blinding them and following too close. Perhaps we should start applying that logic to you guys in trucks. If you blind us, maybe you start finding your lights kicked in until you stop.
And to the other guy (I'm not grabbing names), 2 telephone pole lengths is not very much. Unless you're talking WAY out there rural where it's like 30 yards between poles. Here in the city that's what, 4 seconds back, maybe 5? If I can take my ultrabright Stinger flashlight (from security/police work), shine it out my back window and blind you, you're too close, and I've done that more than once and watched the guy behind slam on his brakes because he's been blinded.
In fact, I love my stinger. I recommend everyone in a compact car goes and buys one. MilArm sells them, $139 a pop last I was there. Pricey, but I never get blinded by more than a few seconds with that baby. And if the guy in the truck (and this happens very often) is a complete selfish prick, he pulls up besides me and bitches, swears, gives me the finger, honks......so I just wave and show him what he did to me be sliding in behind him and giving him the stinger in the rear-view. If he flips up the rear-view I give him the stinger in the side mirrors.
Works wonders. The moral of the story is, to you truck drivers who blind people(and clowns in non-trucks with ultra-bright headlights that blind people), bewarned. If you tailgate me, you're getting the brightest flashlight available on the market right in the eyes. I know some will laugh at that, but there's a warning in the box not to point it directly in someone's eyes, it's THAT bright, and your night vision will take several minutes to come back.
And I realize doing it is dangerous and unsafe, you could swerve or be momentarily blinded and hit a pedestrian...but I can't see when I'm blinded and I'd rather you do it then me, especially since you're the one being the selfish prick. You've been forewarned. |
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| 300zxgal |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
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| TheNeonEdge |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
Let me get this straight, you drive a truck, and the lights from other trucks don't bother you, so people who are sitting 3 or 4 feet lower than you in a car are obviously just whining since it shouldn't bother them either? I think you need to compare the two. Better yet, hop in a car now and then and see how it is and then tell me it's "whining".
The problem isn't that your lights "annoy" other drivers, though they do. The problem is that they are distracting. Now, while I will agree with you that fogs light up the road even during normal driving, they aren't "needed", at all. You can get by just fine without them.
SO the conclusion is that either your a selfish prick who doesn't care about other drivers so long as your lights benefit you, or you're just an asshole who's gonna do what you want because you don't care.
Someone mentioned lights getting kicked in when people in cars flash them at trucks that are blinding them and following too close. Perhaps we should start applying that logic to you guys in trucks. If you blind us, maybe you start finding your lights kicked in until you stop.
And to the other guy (I'm not grabbing names), 2 telephone pole lengths is not very much. Unless you're talking WAY out there rural where it's like 30 yards between poles. Here in the city that's what, 4 seconds back, maybe 5? If I can take my ultrabright Stinger flashlight (from security/police work), shine it out my back window and blind you, you're too close, and I've done that more than once and watched the guy behind slam on his brakes because he's been blinded.
In fact, I love my stinger. I recommend everyone in a compact car goes and buys one. MilArm sells them, $139 a pop last I was there. Pricey, but I never get blinded by more than a few seconds with that baby. And if the guy in the truck (and this happens very often) is a complete selfish prick, he pulls up besides me and bitches, swears, gives me the finger, honks......so I just wave and show him what he did to me be sliding in behind him and giving him the stinger in the rear-view. If he flips up the rear-view I give him the stinger in the side mirrors.
Works wonders. The moral of the story is, to you truck drivers who blind people(and clowns in non-trucks with ultra-bright headlights that blind people), bewarned. If you tailgate me, you're getting the brightest flashlight available on the market right in the eyes. I know some will laugh at that, but there's a warning in the box not to point it directly in someone's eyes, it's THAT bright, and your night vision will take several minutes to come back.
And I realize doing it is dangerous and unsafe, you could swerve or be momentarily blinded and hit a pedestrian...but I can't see when I'm blinded and I'd rather you do it then me, especially since you're the one being the selfish prick. You've been forewarned.
Haha thats awesome
Is that flashlight super bright LED's by chance? Or is it the kind of light like the contractor grade lights for drywall? |
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| omniman69 |
by telephone poll i do mean the country route ones, and i got a 750000candle power flashlght i am goin to keep in the truck from now on(thnx for the idea), cause i get the tailgaters as well for some dumb reason. Tailgate me all u want, those that have seen my truck know that i am not worried one bit bout my paintjob, beauty is only a rattle-can away, and i am not affraid to use my hitchball as a first defense.
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| WorkInProgress |
First, in response to 300zxgal, a 300zx is a tiny car compared to a 1-Ton Dually Mega Cab 4x4 with 6" Lift and 37" tires that all the "rig pigs" seem to drive.
Just because a group of people band together due to beliefs does not make those beliefs correct and/or acceptable. Just because all the Nazi's believed that they had the right to commit genocide, did not make it so.
I know that is an extreme case, but I have read quite a number of your posts, and you seem to ALWAYS argue rather than comprimise.
I'm not going to make the generalization that you're just a bitch who is used to getting her own way, because of your looks and your attitude and the company you keep, that would be unfair of me.
You've obviously been around this group of people much longer than I, and you have earned a great deal of respect from them, so I am only to assume you're a (more often than not) great person.
I don't want to start any rediculous online fight, I see the points you made and I acknowledge that some people in our (fine) city are complete assholes;
I'm just asking you to admit that not *ALL* drivers are that way.
I was simply trying to express my disconcertment for your rant. I apology for refering to it as a "hissy-fit" and I genuinely hope you realize that I'm not trying to press your buttons.
On to my next point, you say that there is no need to use fog lamps under normal city-driving conditions, I presume your arguing that point because there should be enough street-lamps and such around the city of Edmonton to negate the usage of fogs?
Well then, on that same note I would like to mention that when driving around the city amongst all the well-lit streets, there is SO much light coming from the city of Edmonton that it would immersurably dull the beams from my fog lamps.
If I were in a small(er) car driving TOWARDS a truck with fog lamps turned on, it would bother me MUCH more on a very dark stretch of highway, than it would in the city.
Also, I said that I had my fog lamps wired to stay on with my high-beams. You claim that as disregarding other drivers in the city. I DON'T DRIVE AROUND E-TOWN WITH MY HIGHS ON. Think about it, if you *ARE* out in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere in a large truck, and you flip your high beams on, it's going to illuminate far up ahead. Having the fog lamps wired to stay on along with the high beams, allows you to light up the area immediately in front of you to avoid dangers situations. Take into account most "large" trucks do go OFF-ROAD as well.
On to my last point, in your original post you said, and I quote;
"a significant percentage of large truck owners/drivers feel the need to drive along with their fog lights on"
Then in your last post you said;
"Never once did I suggest any statistics as fact that would cause the reader to perceive that I thought every single large truck owner was an asshole"
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| LeadSled |
Fog lights are meant to go pretty much parallel to the road, so its more a problem of a truck being tall than anything. My sister's SRT-4 has the foglights as DRL's but I'm sure it bothers no one because they are inches off the ground. I drive with my fog lights on in the city too because my headlights have been, uhhh, modified... and my truck is lowered so no one seems to have a problem with it, plus I aimed my fogs slightly down from the factory setting.
When I drive one of my old man's crew trucks like the '06 2500 Ram it sits way higher, and I can definately tell the difference. I'd never use them in the city, but on the highway I do because it really improves vision in front of the truck. As long as I dim them when following a car I think its fine.
And you guys and your passive aggressive rear facing foggers crack me up because I'm the same way. People seem to forget more often to dim their lights when following semi's, so I flip on the 8 rear facing clearance lights and freak the hell out of them. And they are BRIGHT. |
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| WorkInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by JeepGirl
nope... i just nail my brakes, if just for a second or i just left my foot off the gas or i downshift:lol: he gets the fine for following to close and i get a new parts car. i dont know about you but when i get those highbeams flashing like a fucking disco ball in my mirrors i tend to lose sight of the road and sometimes its even looked like someone stepping off the sidewalk in front of me:dunno: what can ya do right?:thumbup:
That's a REALLY great attitude to have JeepGirl, you just admitted to PURPOSELY attempting to cause an accident. Just because you feel someone else is driving like an asshole, does not give you the right, nor the power to "teach them a lesson" just because the law is on your side.
ANY sensible driver would simply pull into the empty lane and let the big truck go by. NOT try to cause an accident because you're unhappy with your car and want a new one. I can't believe I just read that. |
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| WorkInProgress |
One more quick (and funny) post, I do NOT advocate tailgating smaller cars, HOWEVER, if a gentleman in a big truck tailgates you close enough his fog lamps would no longer be shining through in your mirrors!
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by LeadSled
Fog lights are meant to go pretty much parallel to the road, so its more a problem of a truck being tall than anything. My sister's SRT-4 has the foglights as DRL's but I'm sure it bothers no one
My wife's 02 Neon has the signals as drl's, but we made a 400+ km trip with her on my ass for Christmas, I was in front cause well.. my car is bigger, when I kick on the HID's my hi beams are much brighter.. but her headlights are really bright even on low beam, but they didn't bother me at all, I just noticed how much brighter they appear from other cars on the road. we had FRS, and I told her to switch to hi-beams... almost no difference in my mirrors, and fog's, could barely tell they where on my mirrors(we're talking side mirrors here.)
I drove her car on the highway one night, I was running fog's cause when I didn't people flashed me like I was on brights, they flashed me less when I had the fogs on. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by WorkInProgress
One more quick (and funny) post, I do NOT advocate tailgating smaller cars, HOWEVER, if a gentleman in a big truck tailgates you close enough his fog lamps would no longer be shining through in your mirrors!
:D :D :D :D :D
Yeah, it would be more to this affect(but with a truck and lights on of course) and yes thats going downt he highway at 80km/h
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| RacerGirl |
WIP: There is not always room to pull over, or change lanes. 300zxgal was mentioning roads in Strathcona county, and along these roads, there is nowhere to pull over safely when you are being blinded from behind.
I am not on to slow down just to be an ass, I usually have my kid in the car, and I am not risking his life. When I do have bright lights shining into my car though, I do tend to slow a little to try and focus on the road. The anti reflective on my glasses only works so well and while i have good night vision, having my interior of my car flooded with light screws with my eyes.
I have personally had larger, higher trucks come up to me with fog lights on, ride my bumper for a bit, and then finally back off once they realize I am not jumping out of their way. I just continue to drive as well as I can given the bright lights right behind me. I do flip my mirrors, but that only helps a little. They also have the option of passing me when they find it safe to do so. It's not like I am driving slow either.
I have also had the same type of vehicals come up close enough behind me, and turn off their fogs, which I do appreciate. |
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| WorkInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by RacerGirl
WIP: There is not always room to pull over, or change lanes. 300zxgal was mentioning roads in Strathcona county, and along these roads, there is nowhere to pull over safely when you are being blinded from behind.
I am not on to slow down just to be an ass, I usually have my kid in the car, and I am not risking his life. When I do have bright lights shining into my car though, I do tend to slow a little to try and focus on the road. The anti reflective on my glasses only works so well and while i have good night vision, having my interior of my car flooded with light screws with my eyes.
I have personally had larger, higher trucks come up to me with fog lights on, ride my bumper for a bit, and then finally back off once they realize I am not jumping out of their way. I just continue to drive as well as I can given the bright lights right behind me. I do flip my mirrors, but that only helps a little. They also have the option of passing me when they find it safe to do so. It's not like I am driving slow either.
I have also had the same type of vehicals come up close enough behind me, and turn off their fogs, which I do appreciate.
Awesome post, and thank you for pointing out that you were talking about rural roads where there is no room to pull over, I was speaking strictly city streets, and missed that part... Under rural conditions, I totally agree with your concern for the safety of you and your son, and some people tailgate light no tomorrow and flash their high beams on purpose because they feel you're moving to slowly! Not *EVERYONE* has a big truck that is capable of being driven 80km/h in an 80km/h zone when the roads are shit. |
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| ae1969 |
OK OK OK OK
Stop arguing ITS ME. I DO IT. I really do. Not sure why but I do...... I am sorry. :(
So if you see a big ass black ford newer style 4x4 crewcab with a big ass push bar.......with his driving lights on.
ITS ME. Feel free to flip me the bird. But its really not my fault....the light switch makes it so easy to turn them on. I dont even think about it.
I am sorry 300zxgal.
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| Fish_e_o |
quote:
Originally posted by ae1969
OK OK OK OK
Stop arguing ITS ME. I DO IT. I really do. Not sure why but I do...... I am sorry. :(
So if you see a big ass black ford newer style 4x4 crewcab with a big ass push bar.......with his driving lights on.
ITS ME. Feel free to flip me the bird. But its really not my fault....the light switch makes it so easy to turn them on. I dont even think about it.
I am sorry 300zxgal.
:(
i admit to it too...
in a subaru it just looks cooler, more sporty. it's important when you drive a forester:rolleyes: |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by ae1969
OK OK OK OK
Stop arguing ITS ME. I DO IT. I really do. Not sure why but I do...... I am sorry. :(
So if you see a big ass black ford newer style 4x4 crewcab with a big ass push bar.......with his driving lights on.
ITS ME. Feel free to flip me the bird. But its really not my fault....the light switch makes it so easy to turn them on. I dont even think about it.
I am sorry 300zxgal.
:(
i dont give people the finger.. i throw whatever happens to be in my hand
past notables:
-open slurpee cups
-coffee
-cigarettes
-hot dog
-pens
-ju jubes (the black ones)
-jelly beans
-milk
even better if the recipients window is open |
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| WorkInProgress |
Ewww, you smoke?
:D :D :D |
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| JeepGirl |
quote:
Originally posted by WorkInProgress
That's a REALLY great attitude to have JeepGirl, you just admitted to PURPOSELY attempting to cause an accident. Just because you feel someone else is driving like an asshole, does not give you the right, nor the power to "teach them a lesson" just because the law is on your side.
ANY sensible driver would simply pull into the empty lane and let the big truck go by. NOT try to cause an accident because you're unhappy with your car and want a new one. I can't believe I just read that.
who the hell said i was unhappy with my car? i didnt... it suits me just fine, cheap on gas and fits most small parking spaces, cheap on parts and i can do the work it needs myself.... so no I :HEART: My Honda.
hey, when i am minding my own in traffic everyday after work and some nut makes it his job to ride my ass and be a fool he will get a surprise.
oh and i wasnt just talking about fog lights, i was just talking about those losers that take it upon themselves to ride the ass of every little car on the road because it makes them feel tough.
i had a guy do this shit to me after dropping my hubby off at work at 730AM. i'm driving back home on the yellowhead and i see some goof in a huge truck doing at least 120k, now with 2 other lanes open to my right and my speedo reading 70kph this guy pulls up behind me, hits his highbeams while not more than 2 feet off my bumper, starts honking and flashing then pulls into the other lane to pass, tromps on the gas and promptly loses control and spins out IN FRONT OF ME hitting the bridge supports for the st albert trail overpass then spinning to a stop in the slow lane. he did all this last week, ON FUCKING ICE! did i stop to help him? HELL NO!!! that stupid bastard deserved whatever he got.
this is the kind of nonsense i'm talking about. this is why i slow the hell down when i cant see whats going on in front of me due to some jerkoff menacing me with his big ol pickemup truck. and i have seen it happen lots, not just to me, also happens to other people that i've seen on my travels.
the only reason you should have your HIGHBEAMS (notice i never said fog lights) on in the city at night is if there is a black out.
maybe the next time some tool in a pigrig pulls up behind my car at a set of lights and the proceeds to turn on their highs i should just pull over to the side of the road and let him by.....:thumbup: give your friggin head a shake...:lol:
i wont even get started on about the tailgaters in this town:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
tail gaiters be warned, unless you like higher insurance rates stay the hell off my bumper!
maybe its my paint work that keeps attracting them, like moths to a flame, i know when light hits my paint it acts like a giant reflector...... |
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| SilverZ24 |
quote:
Originally posted by 300zxgal
i dont give people the finger.. i throw whatever happens to be in my hand
past notables:
-open slurpee cups
-coffee
-cigarettes
-hot dog
-pens
-ju jubes (the black ones)
-jelly beans
-milk
even better if the recipients window is open
Now you sound every bit as ignorant (actually even more so) as the people who tailgate you. Way to lower yourself to someone elses level. :thumbup: :stickpoke |
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| eurotrailertras |
| and we all wonder where road rage comes from. doing assclown things to other asshats on the road only emphisizes stupid driving. you guys need to take your phantom penis size competitions somewhere else, you're a danger to the rest of us on the road. having light sensitivity and poor night vision i am constantly blinded by those people. when a self-centered driver regardless of what hes driving pulls up behind me with his dragonball blast headlights and/or foglight combo, i dont hit my brakes, i just stop pressing on the gas. soon enough you see them rip by you. as for highway oncoming laser beams, i look at the far right line on the road. |
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| WorkInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by eurotrailertras
and we all wonder where road rage comes from. doing assclown things to other asshats on the road only emphisizes stupid driving. you guys need to take your phantom penis size competitions somewhere else, you're a danger to the rest of us on the road. having light sensitivity and poor night vision i am constantly blinded by those people. when a self-centered driver regardless of what hes driving pulls up behind me with his dragonball blast headlights and/or foglight combo, i dont hit my brakes, i just stop pressing on the gas. soon enough you see them rip by you. as for highway oncoming laser beams, i look at the far right line on the road.
I learned that from my father, it's something they should teach in driving school! |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverZ24
Now you sound every bit as ignorant (actually even more so) as the people who tailgate you. Way to lower yourself to someone elses level. :thumbup: :stickpoke
i was kindove joking
except for the slurpee |
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| ae1969 |
quote:
Originally posted by 300zxgal
i was kindove joking
except for the slurpee
Although the thought of getting smacked on the side of the head with a hot dog made me think twice about doing it again. :blink: |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by ae1969
Although the thought of getting smacked on the side of the head with a hot dog made me think twice about doing it again. :blink:
lol. those hot dogs can be nasty |
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| WorkInProgress |
I love hotdogs!
Pig anus rules! |
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| Spoon |
| i just speed up and get way ahead of them they wont catch up |
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| STiPWR |
quote:
Originally posted by JeepGirl
i wont even get started on about the tailgaters in this town:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
tail gaiters be warned, unless you like higher insurance rates stay the hell off my bumper!
I tailgate when people on the road piss me off, and I'll follow you right home.
You best not be stopping. |
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| omniman69 |
he'll do it too, he phsyco ;)
mike |
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| dc2696 |
quote:
Originally posted by 300zxgal
i dont give people the finger.. i throw whatever happens to be in my hand
past notables:
-open slurpee cups
-coffee
-cigarettes
-hot dog
-pens
-ju jubes (the black ones)
-jelly beans
-milk
even better if the recipients window is open
I hope your kdding. |
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| ehos |
| Hick town, hick rules. |
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| 300zxgal |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
Hick town, hick rules.
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