| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| Im looking to get into riding this year. Ive done some searching and noticed bikes are considerably cheaper down there, what are canadas policies on importing these? In particular im looking at importing a Hayabusa. I know not a perfect starting bike by any means but ill get used to it. anyone have any information for me? |
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| 95EagleAWD |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
Im looking to get into riding this year. Ive done some searching and noticed bikes are considerably cheaper down there, what are canadas policies on importing these? In particular im looking at importing a Hayabusa. I know not a perfect starting bike by any means but ill get used to it. anyone have any information for me?
Umm, if you've never ridden before; DO NOT GET A BUSA!
start on a 600 and go from there. 600s aren't slow. |
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| CanuckDave |
quote: Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Umm, if you've never ridden before; DO NOT GET A BUSA!
start on a 600 and go from there. 600s aren't slow.
+1
I missed the "looking to get into riding" part.
A new 600 will run a low 10 second 1/4 with a pro rider, they're very quick bikes, but much lighter and easier to handle than litre bikes.
Its a matter of how much self restraint you have really, it is possible to start out on a litre bike, but you'd never hear me or anybody else recommend it, its just not a good idea.
You'll learn better riding technique starting on something smaller since you can actually push it a bit without scaring yourself shitless with a quick twist of the throttle.
A lot of people recommend a 500cc as a start bike, but anybody who's driven reasonably powerful cars probably has some respect for that power, and can handle a 600, I know I'd have been bored very quickly if I got anything less.
You need to realize that the 'busa is easily capable of lifting the front wheel off the ground if you get on the throttle quickly, and with an inexperienced rider that'll most likely end up with them looping the bike, or not setting it down straight, going into a tankslapper and crashing hard.
I've seen the results of a highspeed crash right in front of me and its not pretty. |
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| mwdguy |
If you are looking for a bike i got one for ya lol
86FZ 750, needs a little TLC hasn't ran in a couple years. And I don't have the time for it. Plus I am getting too old for a sport bike, I will be picking up a cruiser in the spring.
Get it running, ride it for a year then get rid of it when ya get something newer and more powerful. Plus you won't feel bad when you drop it ( you will, everyone drops a bike once or twice)
edit: Have a look http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=54591 |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| i knew the thread would turn into this which is why i put my disclaimer in there lol. i know how to ride a motorbike. ive got countless hours on a dirtbike. i know not the same but i got the basics of how to control a bike. im not too worried about the power of a busa. i can restrain myself until i am fully aware of the bikes attitude. Im looking for a used busa around 2002-05. if i cant find one my alternative is an R1. I do plan on taking riding school too, get familiar with riding on street. anyone have any suggestions for good schools? |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
anyone have any suggestions for good schools?
id have to either say nait, or alberta safety counsil |
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| newaccorddriver |
quote: Originally posted by mwdguy
If you are looking for a bike i got one for ya lol
86FZ 750, needs a little TLC hasn't ran in a couple years. And I don't have the time for it. Plus I am getting too old for a sport bike, I will be picking up a cruiser in the spring.
Get it running, ride it for a year then get rid of it when ya get something newer and more powerful. Plus you won't feel bad when you drop it ( you will, everyone drops a bike once or twice)
edit: Have a look http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=54591
what kinda TLC are we talking about here, just a new chain, or is there something we should know? |
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| mwdguy |
quote: Originally posted by newaccorddriver
what kinda TLC are we talking about here, just a new chain, or is there something we should know?
New chain, I jave it apart because i pulled the carbs off of it to clean them. I have a new petcock and battery ready to go as well.
as far as courses go I would strongly recommend the Alberta Safety Council course. |
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| CanuckDave |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
I do plan on taking riding school too, get familiar with riding on street. anyone have any suggestions for good schools?
NAIT is excellent, they've got some of the best instructors in the city. After taking the course, most insurance companies will classify you as a 3rd year rider so it'll help with rates.
If you want more opinions about the other schools around, start reading here:
http://www.edmontonsportriderz.com/...read.php?t=2828 |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote: Originally posted by CanuckDave
NAIT is excellent, they've got some of the best instructors in the city. After taking the course, most insurance companies will classify you as a 3rd year rider so it'll help with rates.
If you want more opinions about the other schools around, start reading here:
http://www.edmontonsportriderz.com/...read.php?t=2828
thanks man that was the site i was looking for i knew there was something more local. thanks, your story about the front wheels coming up at a flick of the throttle has kinda set me off of a busa now though. even though i think i could handle it i really wouldnt need something that rediculous lol. im thinking ill stick to my second choice in an R1 1000CC |
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| mwdguy |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
thanks man that was the site i was looking for i knew there was something more local. thanks, your story about the front wheels coming up at a flick of the throttle has kinda set me off of a busa now though. even though i think i could handle it i really wouldnt need something that rediculous lol. im thinking ill stick to my second choice in an R1 1000CC
an R1 will do the same |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote: Originally posted by mwdguy
an R1 will do the same
it will but not quite as violent. i know i will get bored of a 600 quickly. |
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| CanuckDave |
quote: Originally posted by mwdguy
an R1 will do the same
Precisely, the R1 may have a little less power, but its lighter than the 'busa, so it has a similar power to weight ratio. ANY litre bike is going to be this way, people don't tell newbies not to buy them without reason, its because we've seen too many people with little experience hop on a big bike (even a 600), grab a fistfull of throttle and end up looping the bike etc.
On most 600s the powerband is all top end, so it gives you a little more room for error. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| well if i find im uncapable, i can sell it and downgrade, im confidant i can handle it though.. im not looking to hop on one and go buck wild on it my first day aha. i just dont want to buy a bike, learn to ride and 2 months later sell to rebuy.. ill buy what i want and get familiar with it before i endulge |
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| mwdguy |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
well if i find im uncapable, i can sell it and downgrade, im confidant i can handle it though.. im not looking to hop on one and go buck wild on it my first day aha. i just dont want to buy a bike, learn to ride and 2 months later sell to rebuy.. ill buy what i want and get familiar with it before i endulge
Get your licence, then ride the bikes you are thinking of riding on a demo day BEFORE you buy one.
You would be surprised how quick a new 600 is. |
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| newaccorddriver |
| hey ben, out of curiosity, did you by any chance go to the motorcycle show this weekend?:thumbup: |
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| kouki240 |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
In particular im looking at importing a Hayabusa. I know not a perfect starting bike by any means but ill get used to it.
:lol: I don't even know what to say here... I'll keep my eyes out for you in the obituary.
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
it will but not quite as violent. i know i will get bored of a 600 quickly.
:rolleyes:
You are the definition of a squid, and don't compare dirt bikes to sport bikes plzkthnx |
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| 95EagleAWD |
I ride dirtbikes all summer; 125s and 250s.
I'd would never consider anything over an R6 as my first road bike, and it would be at least 3-4 years old.
Consider your first bike:
You'll drop it. (Yes, you will. Everyone drops a bike)
And you won't have restraint (don't bullshit me, I know)
If you want to die, get a Busa. They'll do the job neatly and quickly.
Otherwise, find a 600 that's a few years old and ride it for a summer or for most of the summer. Get comfortable in traffic, on shitty roads, moving around potholes, etc. Then move along to something bigger. |
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| sk8jas |
| my gf went from a 250 dirtbike to a 750 street bike. Rode it for a year and she never dropped it, crashed it or anything... but that said, chicks have a different set of restraints than guys do.... |
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| ohboyitsme |
| I'm not sure why you would want a 'bus aif you want soemthing fats. They are great in a straight line but do not corner very well. A 600 is the best bike to buy. They are stupid fast (around 240km/hr top end) and better to ride on the track for track days. The best thing to do is get one that is a year or two older and has been scratched up a bit. |
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| mwdguy |
quote: Originally posted by ohboyitsme
I'm not sure why you would want a 'bus aif you want soemthing fats. They are great in a straight line but do not corner very well. A 600 is the best bike to buy. They are stupid fast (around 240km/hr top end) and better to ride on the track for track days. The best thing to do is get one that is a year or two older and has been scratched up a bit.
Exactly, there are very very few people in Edmonton that can ride a 600 to it's fullest extent, and there is no way you can do that on the street. |
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| DoubleDown |
quote: Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
it will but not quite as violent. i know i will get bored of a 600 quickly.
I've owned a Busa and an '05 R1, and the R1 is way more violent, heh. It's nearly the same power but with half the weight and a smaller wheelbase. Busa's are highway bikes, they're boring.
Just take everyone's advice and get a 600. If you're riding on the street, you'll get bored of it after a year or two. If you ride it on the track, you'll quickly figure out that you don't have a clue how to ride it to its full potential. The saying goes "It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow".
- Mike |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
thanks to those who read my first question and piss off to those who have no english skills to figure out i wasnt asking if a busa was a good starting bike lol. i never compared a dirtbike to a sport bike i simply said i know the basics to riding a bike because the basics are exactly the same. the difference comes in when you put more power to a paved road. i have many friends who ride 600s and they all say the same thing i have, and that they bore quickly. i dont plan to ride as a daily way to get from A to B. my riding will be on my spare time for fun. i just dont think a 600 will be enough for me. as i said before if i cant handle a litre bike ill downgrade, not that its anyone elses business i simply asked about importation laws.
i know they are highway bikes, which is why i want one. i will rarely ride and when i do it will most likely be highway or trips to BC and Jasper.
doubledown: this wasnt directed at you. appreciate the experienced advice! rather then from someone who has never ridden a bike and thinks they know everything about them. |
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| stybscelica |
Not sure that it is all that difficult, My dad is heading down to cali to bring back a couple trailers worth of Goldwings, From what he's telling me they can make 3-4k each by bringing them up here. That's about all i know about bringing them back. As for registering them in Canada you'll have to phone the registries office, They'll have way more info.
Not much help but it answers your post question, and not flaming your bike choice.
cheers
My two cents, i almost baught a Suzuki 650 s, untill i ended up picking up a kid and his brains from an accident. Not his fault but he died anyway.
Doesn't matter how good your skill's are on any bike someone else will surely finish the job. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote: Originally posted by stybscelica
Not sure that it is all that difficult, My dad is heading down to cali to bring back a couple trailers worth of Goldwings, From what he's telling me they can make 3-4k each by bringing them up here. That's about all i know about bringing them back. As for registering them in Canada you'll have to phone the registries office, They'll have way more info.
Not much help but it answers your post question, and not flaming your bike choice.
cheers
My two cents, i almost baught a Suzuki 650 s, untill i ended up picking up a kid and his brains from an accident. Not his fault but he died anyway.
Doesn't matter how good your skill's are on any bike someone else will surely finish the job.
if i get smoked by someone it aint gunna matter what bike im on.. but as i said im looking for weekend fun for road trips and such. maybe the occasional trip to the strip. if i cant manage to find a good r1 ill probly end up on something smaller anyways. i would just prefer something with more juice. thanks for the info tho this thread is done =D |
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