| kanoppesi |
| whats ur opinion on the best tuner car under 35 000, i considering gettin a cobalt ss/sc but whos got opinions on others out there |
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| Fazda |
| my last choice would be the colbalt ss.. if u are gonna tune something for cheap and under 35,000 personally i would go srt-4, very easy to mode. efficent and effective. damn neons. hate them but u gotta love them at the same time.:lol: |
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| BigTrucker |
New or Used?
If you wanted a new car I would probably lean more toward the Civic as there is always a huge following of companies and people toward that car giving it a huge list of aftermarket parts. You could also try to grab a Mazdaspeed3 since it already has a turbo and boost the hell out of it.
If you want a good used tuner car you could pick almost any Honda or try and find yourself a decent condition older Supra or RX-7. You could also get a SRT-4 (ugly but fast) and join one of the huge threads about bashing them. |
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| Inzane |
If you're talking NEW, I'd go with a Mazdaspeed3. :thumbup:
If a Mazdaspeed6 squeaks under that budget limit I'd suggest it too. |
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| wes_4 |
| If you are talking used, my 35K would probably be on a 350Z...great platform and TONS of aftermarket support...an 03 or 04 should squeak in around the price. |
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| Fazda |
| i think mazdaspeed6 is in around 40,000 maybe with a good hook up your could pull it off.. mazdaspeed3 would be nice.. anything with a turbo!! BOOOOOST:thumbup: |
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| B18C5R |
hands down honda civic
for 35k you could make it into a gtr |
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| flatboy |
| hmmm a Toyota Tacoma. 2.4L turbo! |
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| Britain |
| For 35000 Its between a 350z and the s2000.. A pre 2004 i think s2000 woukd be nice. Get all 9000Rpm lol! |
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| ChromeDragon |
| The 3 is a pretty damn nice car, and I can only imagine the Mazdaspeed version is just that much better. |
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| fartcannon |
| i dont even have to think about that three fifty takes the cake |
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| Rich_A |
| 03 350z + 10k in mods |
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| AnimusNovo |
| Mazdaspeed3 is pretty much out of the question. All the red ones in canada are sold out, next years models are white and there's already a waiting list that requires $1000 deposit. |
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| impact |
used 04/05 sti
i just picked one up in that area. and its fuckin wicked. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by impact
used 04/05 sti
i just picked one up in that area. and its fuckin wicked.
What?? :blink: A ~$50k car, and a Subaru at that, has depreciated to <$35k in that short a time? :confused: |
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| impact |
| you just have to shop around.. got mine with 14k mile. clean history. and some mild mods. |
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| impact |
| canadain black book value is low 28 high 31 |
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| Fazda |
| ya i would agree with the s2000 or possible s4. but as im learning u need some cash to do upgrades to the s4. sure ain't cheap. |
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| kanoppesi |
| ha awesome, ya i cant wait i so pumped about gettin a new car! |
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| Fazda |
| its definetly nice! i was so stoked when i first got my audi.. enough performance it's got tons of luxury. and its a great daily driver. goood luck in whatever you buy.. |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
| if you got $35K, you might be able to import a nice MKIV supra TT from the states. Not exactly practical or easy but imo, best bang for your buck performance and looks... or srt4 for just performance. haha |
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| ehos |
FD
There's nothing that will come close to touching it in looks, handling, power. And you'll have money left over if you are a coward and think the rotary is unreliable.
Or for 30K you can get LS1 FD's that will blow apart Vettes. |
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| Fazda |
| ya u gotta love tha 7's |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
FD
There's nothing that will come close to touching it in looks, handling, power. And you'll have money left over if you are a coward and think the rotary is unreliable.
Or for 30K you can get LS1 FD's that will blow apart Vettes.
No bias there...
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| No-Pistons |
| you can buy my fd :thumbup: |
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| Fazda |
| what do u want for your fd? |
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| ehos |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
No bias there...
:lol:
Only the facts maam, only the facts.
It's the lightest of the big 4-5 super cars, it's the best looking, best handling, it's the cheapest. The ooonly knock is the so called 'unreliability' of the rotary.
They only last 80K miles. (Who has driven their cars 80K miles?)
Yup, no bias here. :) And for less than 35K? No brainer. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
Yup, no bias here.
Yeah, and I have a bias too. But I'm not going to tell everyone I think the 300ZXTT is the best of the '90s Japanese supercars, because that would be just MY opinion.
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Only the facts maam, only the facts.
It's the lightest of the big 4-5 super cars, it's the best looking, best handling, it's the cheapest. The ooonly knock is the so called 'unreliability' of the rotary.
You want facts...?
First of all, looks.... that is entirely subjective, and you know it.
[I picked the one that appealed to me most. I'd NEVER give the styling nod to the FD or MKIV over the Z32, but thats just me. That's not to say I don't like the FD styling.. (I do actually). But everyone has their personal favorites. Heck some even prefer the Stealth/3000GT as their fav.]
Second... How many awards/accolades did the FD collect during its production run? Now compare that to what the Z32 earned. (hmm... I seem to remember the Z was on C&D 10 Best all seven years sold in America, and won several "car of the year" awards).
Third... handling. Ok I'll give you that one (stock vs. stock). Of all its peers the FD was the most racecar-like out of the box, made for the track. Some might argue it was almost too much racecar out of the box which might've hurt its mass market appeal, which leads into my next point...
Forth... Cheapest. Yessir. For MSRP on all the cars in its segment it certainly was the most affordable. But strangely that wasn't enough to keep it selling well in North America. Compared to Zs its sales were dismal, and its production run significantly shorter, unfortunately.
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(Who has driven their cars 80K miles?)
~78k miles here. :dunno: |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
and what are the 4 or 5 "super cars" you're comparing it to?
FD
Z32
MKIV Supra
Stealth/3000GT
and
C4 vette (not incl. ZR-1)
968
(and the NSX sorta fits in there too, but was kind of on its own due to pricing difference).
Context people... context. Keeping in the context of cars of a given period/market/category. |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
| why not a C5 vette? It's faster out of the box then any of the other cars listed. Not to mention, it looks the best :lol: imo. It also fits into the price range... |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
why not a C5 vette? It's faster out of the box then any of the other cars listed. Not to mention, it looks the best :lol: imo. It also fits into the price range...
Production year 97+.
None of those vehicles overlap with the C5 except the 3000GT (not Stealth) and the Supra. Well, and the NSX if you want to go there, but by 97+ it was a $140k CDN car (and the MKIV Supra TT was ~$80k CDN in its last couple years 97-98).
Re-read my point about "context". None of those Japanese cars were designed with the C5 in mind because it didn't even EXIST at the time. I can't speak for Toyota and Mazda lore, but for Nissan for example the 300ZXTT was aimed squarely at the C4 and 944T, its main competition back in '89/90. |
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| ehos |
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Originally posted by Inzane
FD
Z32
MKIV Supra
Stealth/3000GT
C4 vette
968
(and the NSX sorta fits in there too, but was kind of on its own due to pricing difference).
Context people... context. Keeping in the context of cars of a given period/market/category.
You missed all my smileys! I hate to get into the whole car vs car debate. It's 100% subjective, it will always come down to personal opinion and how you 'feel when you buy.' Everyone knows that. As long as everyone states their own case without getting too 'aggressive', it's all good. It get stupid when people go attacking other cars. I'm a huge fan of all the big 5.
I was just stating my bias. :)
The 'supercars', I meant the JDM 90's powerhouses.
FD
Supra
NSX
Skyline
MR2
300Z
I agree with context/subjective.
Also, I'm a huge fan of Touge. Modified cars, driven in a scary, real world setting. And who's the champ? :)
(See, subjective. Supra fans will crow about their drag numbers, Skyline drivers their AWD goodness, MR2 guys their midshipmanship etc).
BTW, I've owned every car in that line up except a MKIV Supra/NSX. And one day, when prices go down, I'll own one of those as well (who knows, maybe they will appeal more to me than the FD).
In my biased opinion, nothing touches a FD for less than 20K. For 35K you're looking at stupid FD's like Lupe's 2200lb, 530HP monstrosity! (Street!) |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
You missed all my smileys!
It's 100% subjective, it will always come down to personal opinion Everyone knows that.
I'm a huge fan of all the big 5.
I was just stating my bias. :)
Ok, cool. :thumbup:
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The 'supercars', I meant the JDM 90's powerhouses.
FD
Supra
NSX
Skyline
MR2
300Z
I agree with context/subjective.
Sounds like we're on the same wavelength. ;)
(sidenote: I tend to forget/leave-out the Skyline because it was never relevant to the North American market, at the time, though its becoming so now that they're imported).
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(See, subjective. Supra fans will crow about their drag numbers, Skyline drivers their AWD goodness, MR2 guys their midshipmanship etc).
Agreed. :beer:
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BTW, I've owned every car in that line up except a MKIV Supra/NSX.
Cool. I never knew that.
But tell me, did you have a BAD ownership experience with a 300ZX, for you not to mention them much? (details...) |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Production year 97+.
None of those vehicles overlap with the C5 except the 3000GT (not Stealth) and the Supra. Well, and the NSX if you want to go there, but by 97+ it was a $140k CDN car (and the MKIV Supra TT was ~$80k CDN in its last couple years 97-98).
Re-read my point about "context". None of those Japanese cars were designed with the C5 in mind because it didn't even EXIST at the time. I can't speak for Toyota and Mazda lore, but for Nissan for example the 300ZXTT was aimed squarely at the C4 and 944T, its main competition back in '89/90.
I was just going by the price ceiling of 35k... imo it's the best sports car for that kinda money... |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
I was just going by the price ceiling of 35k... imo it's the best sports car for that kinda money...
Fair enough. If you start talking used cars of ANY era, lots of possibilities open up. I was just enjoying a sidebar thread hijack there on the 90s Japanese car subject. :p |
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| ehos |
To continue the hijack...
I've had 2 300Z's. One was a 86-88? White Shiro (drool), which I thought was the most gorgeous car of all time (long ago). It was gorgeous, but it was also very broken inside. I was too young to figure out what was wrong with it...
The second was a 91 NA (yeah, I wanted a TT, who doesn't, but the NA was still nice..), which I got for a steal at a time when they were just horribly overpriced. Everyone said it was too fat and I would break everything in it. But, it was a super solid car, took ALOT of abuse (that V6 rocks). Sold it because I started to work on my own cars and it was just TOO hard to work on (for me). The engine bay is just too packed, and it looked daunting. Plus I got a crazy offer so I took it :)
I would still grab a TT, but now it's down on the list of 'must' haves. S2000, Elise (I'm buying one I don't care how much they are, LIGHT cars rule), 350Z (I like the G so..), NSX (one day), MKIV (next year JDM!), etc etc.
That's pretty impressive you've driven your car 78K, 40K more and you'd be at the rebuild stage on the rotary :) |
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| No-Pistons |
quote:
Originally posted by Fazda
what do u want for your fd?
24k |
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| mazda3 fanatic |
Definitely the Mazdaspeed3... Wish I waited to get that instead of my regular Mazda3...
Oh well... :cool: |
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
| agreed. go with something from the top 5...preferrably rx-7 supra or 300Z...you'll be happy with any one of those, with alot of money left over to mod the hell out of it |
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| crzyone |
Seems the Skyline gets no love on this board.
$20k GTR with $15k in mods, not much out there that will touch it.
I am a little biased, but I did consider all cars when I bought my GTR. One of the most fun cars I've ever owned. It makes you a much better driver than you really are with the awd system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydGa...earch=R32%20GTR |
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| tokes |
| Have your parents buy you a C5, end of story. |
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| Therin |
to answer this question you need to ask yourself another. What is the purpose of my car?
If your gonna have a tuner car, then buy what appeals to you the most when you go to put money down on a vehicle. But if you want teh sex, then its either a FD, C5, or 350Z. some might add the supra, but its not sexy enough for your average girl. Skylines only make guys drool and some chicks who know what they are.
I know they make me drool..... . . . .. . . . |
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| tokes |
| You don't think Supras are sexy enough for your average girl? Maybe a MKIII, but 35K will be getting him into a MKIV, and that car definitely will pull some bitches. |
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| crzyone |
Since when are tuner cars rated on the chicks they can pick up? :lol:
Since when are C5 vettes tuner cars? |
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| Therin |
| vettes have always been a tuner car, just not one the majority of can afford. |
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| crzyone |
I guess a vette can be considered a tuner car, but I've always considered a tuner car to be a Japanese performance car with a lot of aftermarket support.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=tuner+car
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Wow, that Tuner Car (tuned) Skyline sounds and looks and goes a lot better than the ricer silvia I just saw.
Tuners > Ricers
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
lets not open that can of worms again hah..
for 35g and new cars, your best bet is the 350z or g35 coupe. If your into mazdas, the RX-8 but ive personally never been a fan of them. My next choice would be something lexus but im sure anything worth buying is over 35g in the lexus lineup. |
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| Fazda |
| i would agree.. when i hear tuner car i think rice.. and when i think rice i think civic.. i personally would never buy a honda.. but they have the major tuner support for cheap.. i mean if u like starting out at 115 hp. lol |
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| kanoppesi |
| ha yah, 350Z are wicked arnt they a bit more pricey than 35 000 though |
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| Therin |
| i forgot about lexus. You can get a good IS300 for that price and go from there. In my opinion you can't buy a better sedan on the north american market. Just gotta get rid of the Altezza lights. |
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| kanoppesi |
| what does everyone think about trucks though, they just as sweet i think, dodge 2500 anyone? |
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| Fazda |
| ya trucks are sweet. my dad just baught a brand new 3500 turbo deisel.. sweet truck.. and they can be very quick |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
| Yeah IMO i'd consider a Vette a Modern Muscle Car before a Tuner.:dunno: |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
quote:
Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
Yeah IMO i'd consider a Vette a Modern Muscle Car before a Tuner.:dunno:
maybe, but I'd also buy a vette before any tuner car. |
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| kanoppesi |
| ya my parents also just got a mega cab, pretty sweet and sein as that i dont live in a city and going into industrial work i definatley needing a truck at first |
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| wes_4 |
| I agree about the diesels...My 05 is so practical, I get compliment everywhere and i will waste most "fast cars"...and you can get a good, decently low km 4x4 for around 30-35K...the only problem is going to be having anyfun with handling because it is non-existant...i dont mind though since we have very limited twisty roads around here anyway. |
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| tokes |
I don't know why you guys think a stock diesel or even one with a few mods is fast, or even quick. 6000 pounds plus driver plus fluids and 300-500 horsepower is far from fast, maybe bordering on quick if you have tons of mods. You're talking about a power to weight ratio similar to your typical grandmothers buick regal.
If I wanted something decently quick but practical I'd go pickup a few year old Chevy/GMC 1500 ECSB. A little over 4000 pounds with a V8 in it. Do a cheap rear mounted turbo on the stock motor and you can make 450-500 RWHP. |
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| kanoppesi |
| ya but than u got an older vehicle and and after puttin all that into it will probably give u a big headache and a dent in the wallet. atleast this way u got a beefy off the lot vehicle with warranty at that |
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| tokes |
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Originally posted by kanoppesi
ya but than u got an older vehicle and and after puttin all that into it will probably give u a big headache and a dent in the wallet. atleast this way u got a beefy off the lot vehicle with warranty at that
For 35K you're going to be picking up an older truck if you get a diesel anyways :rolleyes:
20-25K will buy you a 2003 or even a 2004 Silverado 1500 without a ton of miles on them. |
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| Can't Stop Spin |
| Or just buy the new tundra for a little over 40k if you keep the options down and kick every other trucks ass in acceleration :dunno: |
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| LeadSled |
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Originally posted by tokes
I don't know why you guys think a stock diesel or even one with a few mods is fast, or even quick. 6000 pounds plus driver plus fluids and 300-500 horsepower is far from fast, maybe bordering on quick if you have tons of mods. You're talking about a power to weight ratio similar to your typical grandmothers buick regal.
If I wanted something decently quick but practical I'd go pickup a few year old Chevy/GMC 1500 ECSB. A little over 4000 pounds with a V8 in it. Do a cheap rear mounted turbo on the stock motor and you can make 450-500 RWHP.
A ton of mods? I've seen a 06 Ram Cummins pull a 13.9 with just a programmer, exhaust and intake for power mods. A little faster than a Buick Regal, and faster than probably 90% of the cars on this site.
The Dmaxs are even quicker. Plus the new 6.7L Cummins is making almost 1000 lb/ft with just a Bullydog on the middle setting, where the old 5.9L would only be making 850 lb/ft. And its also got a 6 speed auto now instead of the old 4 speed.
I've got a 12 second gas powered truck right now and I want to sell it and get a diesel. Better mileage, better for towing and easily modded. Plus you can have more truck and still run quick, mine is a RCSB 2x4 and I would get a Megacab 4x4 if I got a diesel. The downside is cost, his $35k won't go very far buying a diesel truck because they hold their value better than the gas jobs. |
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| LeadSled |
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Originally posted by Can't Stop Spin
Or just buy the new tundra for a little over 40k if you keep the options down and kick every other trucks ass in acceleration :dunno:
The new Tundra is quick stock, but they cost a lot for what you get and that engine is going to be just like the old UV 4.7L for modding... parts will cost a fortune and be few and far between. He'd be better off with a GM or Dodge if he wants to make it a performance vehicle, $1000 puts a 5.7L Ram in the 13s and would kill the Tundra. |
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| kanoppesi |
| ya. well with a truck its a diff story on the price range b/c is a write off for when i get into the business so thats not really an issue, always kinda considered myself a car guy but a big dodge is now way more tempting, specially with some 22's:) |
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| kanoppesi |
| hola thats a nice mega cab. i outa tell my parents to do that. |
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