| Is it worth it to Install a turbo system on a base rsx? - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Mikeman |
So opinions?
Is it worth it to Install a turbo system on a base rsx?
I was wondering if there was a huge difference from the type-s. |
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| dweeb |
| of course its worth it... :cool: |
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| flatboy |
| Boost - the replacement for displacement:thumbup: |
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| 70newport |
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Originally posted by flatboy
Boost - the replacement for displacement:thumbup:
hold up there im a fan of turbos too but a replacement for displacement. Not going to happen lol :lol:
but yea i think it could be worth it if ur willing to spend the money. |
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| flatboy |
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Originally posted by 70newport
hold up there im a fan of turbos too but a replacement for displacement. Not going to happen lol :lol:
but yea i think it could be worth it if ur willing to spend the money.
Its kinda like a blanket statement.
But in a round about way here is a good example, not to be taken as concrete as there is always exceptions.
My brother has a 83 s-10 with a warmed 350. Our trucks run door to door, but if I diddn't have a turbo I wouldn't stand a chance. His engine is 350 cubic inch and my engine is something like 145 cubic inch. Hence the replacement for displacement, plus it sounds kinda cool and it picks at the old muscle cars guys. kinda like you j/k |
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| Fazda |
| ya it would be worth it imo. boost is the only replacement for displacement. lol and NOS! |
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| 70newport |
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Originally posted by flatboy
Its kinda like a blanket statement.
But in a round about way here is a good example, not to be taken as concrete as there is always exceptions.
My brother has a 83 s-10 with a warmed 350. Our trucks run door to door, but if I diddn't have a turbo I wouldn't stand a chance. His engine is 350 cubic inch and my engine is something like 145 cubic inch. Hence the replacement for displacement, plus it sounds kinda cool and it picks at the old muscle cars guys. kinda like you j/k
those old chevy 350 small blocks were amazing. almost as good as the 383's im running in both my newports lol. if only they still made good reliable engines like that today :P
and yea same with my laser without the turbo on that thing it would be no better than a cavalier lol haha |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by Mikeman
So opinions?
Is it worth it to Install a turbo system on a base rsx?
I was wondering if there was a huge difference from the type-s.
Please do some more research before asking such questions. I can recommend Honda-tech as well as others.
Jamie |
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| digitalvinyl |
Jamie is right, Honda-Tech is your friend, and just read, read, read, read.
You'll get flamed if you post, I can guarantee it. :D |
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| Mikeman |
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Please do some more research before asking such questions. I can recommend Honda-tech as well as others.
Ok so i have been researching but all i seem to find is info on type-s.
This honda-tech you speack of, is it a website, person or book?
Sorry iam not caught up. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Its a website and user forum. Just do lots of reading and all your questions will be answered.
http://www.honda-tech.com/
Good luck,
Jamie |
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| Thegnome |
Also, go on google and when you search for stuff type "site:homemadeturbo.com" behind it.
That site has tons of good information (But the search function doesn't work, hense the google thing).
Just dont post noob questions on the board. They're kind of twatty to say the least.
And yeah, a turbo is definitely worth it! Just do it right the first time.
Edit- The book called "maximum boost" by corky bell is supposed to be the boost bible. So, maybe order that from chapters if you get serious too. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Thegnome - Good suggestion :thumbup: maximum boost is a very good book that is filled with everything you would ever need to know about turbo's.
Jamie |
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| onedayaway |
Go with a k24a1 out of a crv.
They're quite cheap and far superior. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by onedayaway
Go with a k24a1 out of a crv.
They're quite cheap and far superior.
So you think he should pull out his K20A3 and spend money on a K24A1 and pay for a swap instead of boosting his already good motor?
Wow....you're drunk.
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| Mikeman |
I would much rather not swap,
At this point anyways. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by Mikeman
I would much rather not swap,
At this point anyways.
You don't need to swap by any means. The K20 can handle boost nicely. Just do your research first :thumbup:
Jamie |
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| onedayaway |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
You don't need to swap by any means. The K20 can handle boost nicely. Just do your research first :thumbup:
Jamie
If he does any he'll soon find out the a3 is total garbage.
So yeah I would suggest pulling his engine.
A turbo set up is not something to cheap out on and anything near 300hp will rip the a3 apart.
The k24 is much stronger, will take more abuse and be much more forgiving. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by onedayaway
If he does any he'll soon find out the a3 is total garbage.
So yeah I would suggest pulling his engine.
A turbo set up is not something to cheap out on and anything near 300hp will rip the a3 apart.
The k24 is much stronger, will take more abuse and be much more forgiving.
I will agree that the k24a is a stronger motor, but, for what he is looking for...his motor will do fine. RevHard offers a turbo kit for the K20A3 that increases the output considerably and does so while keeping the motor in stock form.
If someone is looking for a 600HP K-series monster, then yes, I would suggest a swap. But honestly, 95% of the users on this forum couldn't handle 250+WHP anyways.
Jamie |
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| Mikeman |
| Thanks again for input everyone. |
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| EK9Hatch |
No problem.
Jamie |
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| onedayaway |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
I will agree that the k24a is a stronger motor, but, for what he is looking for...his motor will do fine. RevHard offers a turbo kit for the K20A3 that increases the output considerably and does so while keeping the motor in stock form.
If someone is looking for a 600HP K-series monster, then yes, I would suggest a swap. But honestly, 95% of the users on this forum couldn't handle 250+WHP anyways.
Jamie
Yeah, that's probably a good point. I just figure if you're going to drop 5k+, whats $1000 on an engine?
I would say his best bet would be to pick up a rev hard mani and build his own from there. Sure it's a log style and doesn't flow THAT great, but it'll get the job done and I've yet to hear of a single person complaining that it cracked. Put a little sc34 and a fresh pair of underwear.... or splurge, get a k24a1 strap on a gt35 or sc61 and prepare to constanly be pulling your balls out of your throat.
In all seriousness though, to the threat creator, you should look into a JRSC-R. Just make sure you pick up the race kit. It's more a set it forget type deal, far less than a turbo anyways. You'll lose some top end compared to a turbo, but the instant torque will kick ass for just ripping around the city... not to mention you'll be able to have some money left in your pocket when it's all said and done. |
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| midnite |
another great place to research is http://forums.clubrsx.com
lots of people have done it and documented everything there |
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| SilviaDrifter |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
But honestly, 95% of the users on this forum couldn't handle 250+WHP anyways.
Jamie
i beg to differ man......tons of ppl on this forum are running higher than 250 whp and can handle it perfectly including myself |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
i beg to differ man......tons of ppl on this forum are running higher than 250 whp and can handle it perfectly including myself
How many users does 780tuners have? I guarantee that less than 5% of the total users on here have and or could handle more than 250 WHP.
Anyways, I'm not here to argue. And btw, I like bagels.
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| SilviaDrifter |
| meh i dont care i have over 250 whp and my sig speaks for it self so its all good |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
and my sig speaks for it self so its all good
All I see in your sig is "SilviaDrifter" and a pic of FC with a knocked over piolon. :dunno:
Jamie |
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| SilviaDrifter |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
All I see in your sig is "SilviaDrifter" and a pic of FC with a knocked over piolon. :dunno:
Jamie
i see u havent autocrossed before......the pylon isnt "knocked down"........its a directional pylon telling you which way to go around the pylon thats standing up.......and when i sai my sig speaks for itself i meant that i autocross my car and am fully capable of handling it |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
i see u havent autocrossed before......the pylon isnt "knocked down"........its a directional pylon telling you which way to go around the pylon thats standing up.......and when i sai my sig speaks for itself i meant that i autocross my car and am fully capable of handling it
Oh ok! :thumbup:
Jamie |
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| JD Racing |
whit the k 20 you should be able to make 300 to 350 whp safely
and be able to drive it daily whit a good turbo set up |
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| kornsined |
I have a k20a3 rsx engine with a Greddy kit in my civic and i'm told I'm pushing 208wtq 197whp on Subracings dyno (haven't seen official dyno graph).
Boost is great. Keep up your maintenance and you'll love the boost. |
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| kornsined |
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Originally posted by onedayaway
In all seriousness though, to the threat creator, you should look into a JRSC-R. Just make sure you pick up the race kit. It's more a set it forget type deal, far less than a turbo anyways. You'll lose some top end compared to a turbo, but the instant torque will kick ass for just ripping around the city... not to mention you'll be able to have some money left in your pocket when it's all said and done.
Not an option as of yet. Redshift Motorsports is going to be the first company to make a SC for the RSX k20a3. Comptech and JR had one in development but never realeased it. Only for the SIR hatch a3 and the a2. Some people have complained of constantly breaking pulley's. That can be attributed to poor installs.
Best sites for his particular engine are ephatch.com and clubrsx.com. Try k20a.org and k-series.com as well. Oh and the local boys dc5ab.com.
The rsx a3's downfall is the plastic IM. Depending on the turbo size and psi, the manifold will crack. A member on ephatch fit a RBC IM (06+ SI) and type-s TB with a modified cybernation turbo kit. He's over 300 on a stock a3.
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showth...p;highlight=RBC
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| onedayaway |
Yeah I also sent him in the direction of ephatch.
it's an awesome site with tons of a3 info.
The red shift kit looked promising, however from the price tag I've seen.... A custom turbo kit would be a far better option.
One day I want to check out that k20a3 greddy car of yours.
I thought from what I heard most maxed out around 250ish?
There's a guy here in Canada selling his and I was considering picking it up, however the manifold is somewhat limited due to the flange. Therefore I started looking at the rev hard kit or piecing my own together from the rev hard mani.
At the end I'd like to see a sc61 or gt35rr on a built k24a1 with somewhere around 600whp. |
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| onedayaway |
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Originally posted by kornsined
Not an option as of yet. Redshift Motorsports is going to be the first company to make a SC for the RSX k20a3. Comptech and JR had one in development but never realeased it. Only for the SIR hatch a3 and the a2. Some people have complained of constantly breaking pulley's. That can be attributed to poor installs.
Best sites for his particular engine are ephatch.com and clubrsx.com. Try k20a.org and k-series.com as well. Oh and the local boys dc5ab.com.
The rsx a3's downfall is the plastic IM. Depending on the turbo size and psi, the manifold will crack. A member on ephatch fit a RBC IM (06+ SI) and type-s TB with a modified cybernation turbo kit. He's over 300 on a stock a3.
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showth...p;highlight=RBC
Edit: Link added^^
From what I was told the rsx supercharger will work with any engine.
I know the jrsc for the k20a3 ep3 willl work on a k20a3, k20a2, jdm k20a, and any k24a so long as it's in a ep3. |
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| kornsined |
Not the case apparently. The ep3 uses electric power steering and the base a3 uses a power steering pump. From what I read it's enough to make the SC not fit or work appropriately.
At the same time you would think the a2 SC would work but that's a no go from my research as well. It could be the case that no one has tried it. The only one I read about was the JRSC prototype. Comptech's was just a rumor that it was in development.
The Redshift is pricey. If the claimed potential is there and puts serious numbers down, it may be worth the money. |
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| onedayaway |
Well I know for a fact a ep3 sc won't work on a rsx.
Apparently they had to design them differently due to the room that had within the different engine bays. Although I don't see why an rsx sc wouldn't work on a base... hmm that would be something to ask the k20a.org guys.
I agree redshift may have something there, however at the end of the day for the price they are asking a turbo would make far more power than even the numbers they're putting down. Although I guess to each their own, I know there's some sc crazy guys out there. Just like the boost fed junkies. |
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| n0c7 |
| Factor in installation and maintenance. Turboing a NA car isn't as simple as bolting on a few parts in most cases. |
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