| JustinL |
| In your demographic, how would you rate yourself as a driver? |
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| baker_jeff |
I'm 20, am a very cautious driver, but have gotten into 2 accidents. I can't explain either situation, I don't know how I let them happen.
I always signal, come to complete stops, shoulder check, etc.
I think i just have bad luck! |
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| TrevorK |
For a younger person (25) I think I would be in the top 5% because I not only obey the rules of the road but I am a considerate driver. If someone is trying to merge, I won't speed up and cut them off. If I'm stopped in front of a store's exit waiting for the light to change, I'll let a car exit the parking lot as it's the only chance he'll get.
I've even gone as far as to miss a turn because I couldn't get into a lane without cutting someone off. It doesn't matter to me, a couple minutes here, a couple minutes there. What matters is treating drivers the way you want to be treated. |
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| Therin |
| ^^ yeah i agree, but tell that to the rest of edmonton |
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| JustinL |
I thought it would be interesting to see where people put themselves.
There are only actually 5% of people who are in the top 5% (strangely). Right now we've got 31% of 780tuners that think they are in this group.
10% of people should be between 15% and 5%, we've got 23%.... |
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| JeepGirl |
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Originally posted by Therin
^^ yeah i agree, but tell that to the rest of edmonton
X 2!!
ever notice how the majority of drivers out there act like they are wearing neck braces? they don't shoulder check either because they are lazy or because they have a fucking cellphone pinned between their head and their shoulder :mad:
makes me want a spudgun mounted behind my grill for when they cut me off because they can't bother to look....
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| integraboi_00 |
| hahaha thats to funny |
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| TrevorK |
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
I thought it would be interesting to see where people put themselves.
There are only actually 5% of people who are in the top 5% (strangely). Right now we've got 31% of 780tuners that think they are in this group.
10% of people should be between 15% and 5%, we've got 23%....
I would assume the statistics are going to be off because you are targetting a group of people who, in general, care about how they drive and feel they are "superior" to the average driver. |
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| JustinL |
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Originally posted by TrevorK
I would assume the statistics are going to be off because you are targetting a group of people who, in general, care about how they drive and feel they are "superior" to the average driver.
Absolutely. I should have asked compared to 780tuners how do you rate. Then you introduce some other biases.
I think the main point is still valid though. |
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| LeadSled |
| Where's the button to choose "THE best driver in all of Edmonton, past, present and future included" ? |
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| Fazda |
| i'd say im in the top 15% im 21, never in an accident never had a speeding ticket.. but i have driven too fast, and the odd little race from time to time.. but i am very cautious of what is going on around me... i'd say the majority of edmonton drivers are in the bottom 50% because no one knows how to fuckin drive in this city! |
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| Ravendarat |
| I was honest, I figure that I am in the top 50% but dont know where I rate from there up. I mean fuck, I screw up like everyone else. I have never ran a stop sign on purpose, but there have been times where I flat out wasnt paying attention. There have been times where i lane changed without signaling, not cutting someone off, but non the less it wasnt right. I have never caused an accident involving someone else but I have been in a single vehicle accident. I mean shit, if we actually had as many people in the top 5 as what they think they are then these roads would be much safer. |
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| LeadSled |
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Originally posted by Fazda
i'd say the majority of edmonton drivers are in the bottom 50% because no one knows how to fuckin drive in this city!
Lol, I agree with you 115%.
I have my class 1 and drive semi when I'm not at school, IMO it takes about 10X the skill compared to driving a car. You get a far better appreciation for what your vehicle is doing and how it's effecting other cars on the road. I'd like to think I'm in the top 5% of other 21yr olds in Edmonton because all my friends are pretty shitty drivers, yet still better than the insanely poor driving majority. |
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| ae1969 |
Considering the number of hammer heads that post on the legal part of this forum. I am sure we have the best drivers in the city!
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| Inzane |
^^^^ take that poll graph up above and flip it upside down and you might have something resembling the truth.
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by baker_jeff
I'm 20, am a very cautious driver, but have gotten into 2 accidents. I can't explain either situation, I don't know how I let them happen.
I always signal, come to complete stops, shoulder check, etc.
I think i just have bad luck!
2 accidents? asides from the one where you took down a camry, what other one as there?
on a side note, some driver on a learners decided to take me down in the 325xi... |
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| Biznatcher |
| Ive been in 28 crashes and hit 3 pedestrians but I think Im in the top 5% still |
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| Talon_66 |
quote:
Originally posted by TrevorK
For a younger person (25) I think I would be in the top 5% because I not only obey the rules of the road but I am a considerate driver. If someone is trying to merge, I won't speed up and cut them off. If I'm stopped in front of a store's exit waiting for the light to change, I'll let a car exit the parking lot as it's the only chance he'll get.
I've even gone as far as to miss a turn because I couldn't get into a lane without cutting someone off. It doesn't matter to me, a couple minutes here, a couple minutes there. What matters is treating drivers the way you want to be treated.
This is how I feel, and how I drive most of the time. |
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| omniman69 |
i consider my self in the lower 50%, "the best defence is a good offence" and thats how i drive, if i am ahead of someone, they can't cut me off. :D
mike |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by LeadSled
Where's the button to choose "THE best driver in all of Edmonton, past, present and future included" ?
:lol:
Jamie |
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| Ethanol |
Top 5% for my age group. 18, class 5 for 2 years now, class 7 right when I turned 14. Going to take the advance road test soon. Daily driver, no accidents, no tickets. always signal, shoulder check, etc. I cut someone off once by accident when I was 14 in the drivers ed course (my bad). If they signal I always let them in. Never raced. never sped. never stunted. If i miss a turn i take other routes to where i have to go. Compared to other cars I've been in as a passenger, I would say my driving is quite smooth, as well as the comments I have received.
Thats right, treat other drivers as you would want to be treated. Unfortunately.. most drivers don't do that... |
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| Biznatcher |
quote:
never sped
Wow, I had no idea that was possible:bowdown: |
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| Ethanol |
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Originally posted by Biznatcher
Wow, I had no idea that was possible:bowdown:
ok, never purposely sped, lack of paying attention to speed by keeping up with traffic, ok. I stay in the far right lane though so.. if people wanna pass when i'm going the speed limit, they can. |
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| ehos |
| EVERYONE is an above average driver. And they think everyone else is a below average driver. |
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| dance_of_curse |
| im 18 never been in an accident...never even hit anything except once i backed into a concrete barrier and my exhuast hit it a lil bit. no tickets.im not a full law abiding citizen. i speed a lil...everywhere. andim all around a good enough driver enough for that when i drove down to seattle this past summer i only had my learners and my friend trustedmy skills enough to sleep 80% of the time. i know car control and what to do when shit goes bad...so i ranked myself up in the top 5% |
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| 91laserrs |
| First I would like to say great job coming up with this poll, I think it is awsome. Second I think that it would have been cool to allow a chioce of top 1% just to see how many people actually chose it. |
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| midnite |
funny how so many people use their number of (or lack of) tickets and accidents to determine how good of driver they are.. isn't that how they determine who wins in champ car too? no wait.. the best driver wins because he has the best lap times and ends up in front.
on that note i'd like to say that i'm definitely in the top .1% of best drivers in edmonton.. and by edmonton i mean the world. |
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| Mobius |
I'm a shitty driver. I'm 20, what do you expect. Wait, no, I must be a good driver because I've never been in an accident, or near an accident for that matter. I received one speeding ticket the day after I passed my drivers exam. No, I was right the first time, I am a shitty driver.
At least I let people go first, merge, pass me while not talking on my phone, drinking coffee and/or catching up on the daily Sunshine girl.
If I get not less than 6 friendly waves per day while I'm driving, with no birds, then I feel I've done ok. |
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| JustinL |
quote:
Originally posted by 91laserrs
First I would like to say great job coming up with this poll, I think it is awsome. Second I think that it would have been cool to allow a chioce of top 1% just to see how many people actually chose it.
Haha Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment.
It's always interesting to see the discrepancy between peoples perceptions and reality. Unless of course, being a member of 780tuners makes you one of Edmonton's elite drivers ;) |
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| Playa |
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Originally posted by JustinL
In your demographic, how would you rate yourself as a driver?
Interesting poll.
Not to shit on your thread but the info in the poll is useless.
There are too many demographics here. Ie) SWF Aged 25-30 no tickets? Top 5 % SWM Aged 25 - 30 2 speeding tickets no accidents top 5%? See where I am going. One could be married, different race, age, tickets, no tickets, accidents etc. How can you compare it to demographics if you do not have any fixed controls in place?
Good idea though |
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| Eclipser |
Do I think I am a good driver? Hell No.
Am I better than some of the people out there? Definately.
The fact that I saw some guy in a new escalade go around the off ramp from yellowhead to highway 14 at about 80 and go into the ditch this morning, makes me feel that much more smart.
The cop behind him probally made him feel that much dumber. |
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| JustinL |
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Originally posted by Playa
Interesting poll.
Not to shit on your thread but the info in the poll is useless.
There are too many demographics here. Ie) SWF Aged 25-30 no tickets? Top 5 % SWM Aged 25 - 30 2 speeding tickets no accidents top 5%? See where I am going. One could be married, different race, age, tickets, no tickets, accidents etc. How can you compare it to demographics if you do not have any fixed controls in place?
Good idea though
I know exactly what you are trying to get at. There are an infinite number of variables that could predict how good a driver is. I picked one criteria: age because that includes most people on the forum in the same general group. Given the age range of the people in this forum, it's a pretty limited population and the comparisons will be in the male 16-30 range of people interested in cars.
As I said before, there truth lies somewhere between 780tuners being the best drivers in Edmonton
:lol: and people thinking they are a whole lot better than they are. |
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| JustinL |
I don't think I explained myself well in that last post...
Let's say you are 20. If you took every 20 year old in Edmonton and ranked their driving ability objectively and put them in a room 5% of them would be in the top 5%. Then if you asked them to answer this poll you would get a set of results that would likely look a lot like this one. The biggest problem that this poll has is that I'm asking car enthusiasts like TrevorK pointed out.
I think what Playa is asking about is that I'm not just getting one group, but instead asking randomly from all age groups. In the aggregate though it will be a wash because each person compares to their own peers. I.e., a mixed group of all 20 and 21 year olds will still have 5% in the top 5%... and a mixed group of all random ages will still only have 5% unless there is a bias (like asking only a specific group). |
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| Wolfdio |
I thought I was a good driver but i got hit and that changed my perspective. A lot of people think that being "good" is just not driving into something but half the battle is avoiding accidents caused by someone else... I obviously failed and I think that classifies me at around 50% :dunno:
I'm also sure luck plays a fair share of making a good driver :beer: |
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| SilverZ24 |
I have seen many cars from this site and 60+% of the members are definitely NOT in the top 15% category. lol
But then, who would want to admit they are not an above average driver? Plus most bad drivers are clueless as to how bad they really are - general public and this site obviously...
I would say the majority of the general pubic doesn't speed excessively or stunt on a regular basis, both of which are common at meets. Just because you think you can drift doesn't mean you are in the top 5% of drivers... :dunno: |
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| SilverZ24 |
Actually, after looking at the first post again, I think the question is too vague. Some people are comparing themselves safety wise (ie have no accidents, therefore must be the best) and others are obviously thinking "I can drift mad tyte and the average public can not so I am the best".
So the results are obvious lol |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by midnite
funny how so many people use their number of (or lack of) tickets and accidents to determine how good of driver they are.. isn't that how they determine who wins in champ car too? no wait.. the best driver wins because he has the best lap times and ends up in front.
on that note i'd like to say that i'm definitely in the top .1% of best drivers in edmonton.. and by edmonton i mean the world.
One thing though Chris. The commute to work isn't a race.:thumbup:
I wouldn't rate myself in the top 5 per cent, mostly because I tend to drive over the limit a fair bit of the time. Not much over, 5-10km/h, but it's still technically breaking the law. I do find myself to be very attentive and courteous though. I get aggravated when people do stupid shit like passing on shoulders and in turning lanes, but I'll still let them in because it's not worth causing a collision. |
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| WorkInProgress |
There's a difference between Driving Ability, and Driving Record, just because someone has made some shitty choices in the past - or been given fines etc doesn't necessarily make that person a bad driver.
Let me use a stupid sports analogy, most people would consider Tiger Woods one of the best golfers in the world, correct? It doesn't mean that he golfs PERFECTLY 100% of the time, he misses greens, he loses matches etc...
There are a lot of variables to consider when posing a question like this, and some people are looking at the question in the wrong light, that's all. |
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| Orzel_pl |
I can't see how anyone can try to rank themselves in top 5%. How is that even calculated. Unless your on the F1 circuit, I dont see how you can qualify yourself as a top 5% driver.
Fuck, a hundred times a day I see people ignore using a turn signal, speeding from red light to red light, tailgating , and somehow 30 some percent of the people voting here are in the top 5%?
If you were top 5% what does that entail? Never going over a posted speed limit, never trying to run a yellow light, and always handing out muffin baskets to the other drivers on the road? bullshit. |
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| midnite |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
One thing though Chris. The commute to work isn't a race.:thumbup:
I wouldn't rate myself in the top 5 per cent, mostly because I tend to drive over the limit a fair bit of the time. Not much over, 5-10km/h, but it's still technically breaking the law. I do find myself to be very attentive and courteous though. I get aggravated when people do stupid shit like passing on shoulders and in turning lanes, but I'll still let them in because it's not worth causing a collision.
Must have missed that office memo. :lol:
I know I am a good driver, but I also know that I can always improve so I make an effort to continuously learn as I drive.
As for driving to work, I am quite cautious, always signal, and usually don't speed too much.
If it counts for anything, I passed my drivers test with 0 demerits and never caused an accident. :thumbup: |
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| Godzilla |
| we need to conclude on what constitues a good driver. (yes i just used big words and yes it makes me feel special). Personally I don't think im the greatest driver ever but i don't feel im under 50% either. I am young and only have four years of driving experience. I've passed my class 5 GDL and advanced road tests without demerits or drivers training (wich I got at a later date for insurance purposes) I am curtious to other drivers (except maybe 95intergraRS) and usually obey the laws of the road. On the other hand I am comfortable bending said laws and can handle driving in conditions that go beyond others comfort levels. I can also analyze road conditions and drive accordingly. you won't find me hunched over my steering whell wide eyed and white knuckled. that said i'd say im around the top 35%ish. |
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| Playa |
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
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I think what Playa is asking about is that I'm not just getting one group, but instead asking randomly from all age groups. In the aggregate though it will be a wash because each person compares to their own peers. I.e., a mixed group of all 20 and 21 year olds will still have 5% in the top 5%... and a mixed group of all random ages will still only have 5% unless there is a bias (like asking only a specific group).
Yes,
That is it exactly.
I am not sure what you are tabulating this data for or how you will tabulate it.
Unless you are trying to find out how many people regardless of age, race, sex, think that they are in the top 5% of drivers. However when you said "in your demographic" that that threw a big wrench in the works as there are many dempgraphics one can select. |
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| JustinL |
quote:
Originally posted by Playa
Yes,
That is it exactly.
I am not sure what you are tabulating this data for or how you will tabulate it.
Unless you are trying to find out how many people regardless of age, race, sex, think that they are in the top 5% of drivers. However when you said "in your demographic" that that threw a big wrench in the works as there are many dempgraphics one can select.
Haha I'm not tabulating it for anything. Just thought it would be interesting to see what people thought of themselves.
I asked people to compare to their age group because I wanted to eliminate the 'old person' factor that might bias some of the answers. (oops there's my bias)
Any randomly selected population should have 5% of drivers fall exactly into the top 5% category. The only reason for this not to be true is if there is some reason why a group would have consistently better drivers. If 780tuners truly was a random population, which it's not, then only 5% should be in the top 5%.
I know the question is vague because I didn't specify any criteria, though that wasn't my point :) |
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