| Does anyone here use Clen or Albuterol? - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| jzz30tt |
| Hi, i was just wondering if anyone here is using or has used Clenbuterol or Albuterol(salbutamol) for body fat loss. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
| I tried Clen, but it made my muscles cramp too much so I stopped. It helped my workouts and Cardio, but I didn't take it long enough to see any results for fat loss. |
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| jzz30tt |
Yeah, i've heard that Clen is a bit harsher but i've heard really good things about Albuterol as well.
Do you know of a good place to buy Clen or Albuterol/Salbutamol?
I don't trust most of the advertised places. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
| That depends if you're a cop.:lol: |
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| jzz30tt |
| HAHAHAHA!!! Clen isn't actually illegal is it? |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
| No, but selling prescription drugs without a prescription is.:thumbdown |
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| ae1969 |
Curious to what you are hoping salbutamol will do for you? Beta-2 agonists have numerous effects.......
....curious to what you are hoping to achieve? ....and what dosing was suggested? |
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| jzz30tt |
As in the first post it's mostly for body fat loss.
looking at about a 4 x 4mg dosing for effect but apparently i'll have to forget that. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
That depends if you're a cop.:lol:
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by jzz30tt
As in the first post it's mostly for body fat loss.
looking at about a 4 x 4mg dosing for effect but apparently i'll have to forget that.
I would save your money. At that dose if you are an average healthy adult its not going to do much in regards to weight loss except cause a few unwanted side effects |
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| jzz30tt |
| ??? what dosing are you thinking of that would do something? |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by jzz30tt
??? what dosing are you thinking of that would do something?
How about you put down the cheeseburger and get on a treadmill instead of begging dosing info for drugs you don't need and shouldn't be using off of a car board? :dunno: |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by snugs
How about you put down the cheeseburger and get on a treadmill instead of begging dosing info for drugs you don't need and shouldn't be using off of a car board? :dunno:
I love the cheeseburger comment! :lol:
But to answer your question. The use of beta2 agonists for weightloss can be quite dangerous. The adverse effects that can occur from high doses of these drugs can make you quite uncomfortable and possibly kill you.
There is obviously no medical indication for the use of these drugs for weightloss. Trust me if there was a 0.01% chance it would work it would have been marketed already.
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by ae1969
I love the cheeseburger comment! :lol:
But to answer your question. The use of beta2 agonists for weightloss can be quite dangerous. The adverse effects that can occur from high doses of these drugs can make you quite uncomfortable and possibly kill you.
:D
I need to gain like 50lbs of muscle and get ripped before my trip to mexico next week... how many bottles of juice should I take??? :dunno:
And is orange more anabolic than apple....? :dunno: |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by snugs
I need to gain like 50lbs of muscle and get ripped before my trip to mexico next week... how many bottles of juice should I take??? :dunno:
And is orange more anabolic than apple....? :dunno:
I have never read any studies (trial or anecdotal) that deal with the anabolic properties (if any) of apple or orange juice.
Are we talking from concentrate? or freshly squeezed. |
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| jzz30tt |
Snugs, how 'bout you stop living life by the e-thug.
All i'm trying to do is get more information since i've heard many different things from people that have used both clen and albuterol. I will readily admit that i don't know enough about these two drugs and am trying to learn by asking questions from people who do know.
This isn't just a car board, if you'll look real close you'll realize it's in a section that pertains to fitness.
Begging for dosing info would make sense if i didn't already have any, ae1969 said something that made it sound like he knew something more. I don't see anything wrong in asking him to elaborate.
If your constructive criticism is to forget about any drug and hop on a treadmill then that's fine. I'll take it as such, but i've been doing that for a while and am seeing slow but steady results and when i heard about something else that might be able to compliment that I started asking questions so i could make an informed decision.
Thanks for your help. |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by jzz30tt
Snugs, how 'bout you stop living life by the e-thug.
All i'm trying to do is get more information since i've heard many different things from people that have used both clen and albuterol. I will readily admit that i don't know enough about these two drugs and am trying to learn by asking questions from people who do know.
This isn't just a car board, if you'll look real close you'll realize it's in a section that pertains to fitness.
Begging for dosing info would make sense if i didn't already have any, ae1969 said something that made it sound like he knew something more. I don't see anything wrong in asking him to elaborate.
If your constructive criticism is to forget about any drug and hop on a treadmill then that's fine. I'll take it as such, but i've been doing that for a while and am seeing slow but steady results and when i heard about something else that might be able to compliment that I started asking questions so i could make an informed decision.
Thanks for your help.
jzz feel free to ask the questions.
Snugs has his heart and head in the right place. He is trying to make sure that individuals don't get steered in the wrong direction.
If you would like to know my background feel free to PM me.
I have no problem answering the questions that I am qualified to answer. I will not answer anything that I have no clue about. If its an opinion you will see that in my posts as well. |
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| jzz30tt |
Wasn't implying that you weren't qualified to answer either, I just meant that you saying that that dosage wouldn't do much implied that you do know more about this than I do and i was hoping for an elaboration. That's all.
I'll take you up on that. I do want to learn more. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by jzz30tt
Snugs, how 'bout you stop living life by the e-thug.
All i'm trying to do is get more information since i've heard many different things from people that have used both clen and albuterol. I will readily admit that i don't know enough about these two drugs and am trying to learn by asking questions from people who do know.
This isn't just a car board, if you'll look real close you'll realize it's in a section that pertains to fitness.
Begging for dosing info would make sense if i didn't already have any, ae1969 said something that made it sound like he knew something more. I don't see anything wrong in asking him to elaborate.
If your constructive criticism is to forget about any drug and hop on a treadmill then that's fine. I'll take it as such, but i've been doing that for a while and am seeing slow but steady results and when i heard about something else that might be able to compliment that I started asking questions so i could make an informed decision.
Thanks for your help.
lol, I'll call you the waaaaambulance if you think that was e-thuggery. If it takes you getting a little butt-hurt to prevent another kid from messing around with substance he shouldn't even be aware of, then so be it.
If you want advice on how to lose weight, ask for advice about how to lose weight properly instead of whining that people don't want to give you info about ILLEGAL DRUGS. Drugs like clen and albuterol have very specific purposes and uses and when used/abused improperly they can permanently damage a person's metabolism.
Tell you what, post your stats (age, weight, estimated bodyfat), your training history and current routine, your diet, and your supplements and we can go from there. I'd be willing to bet that there is a whole pile of stuff you can do to speed things up without using anything other than a quality OTC fat burner. :) |
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| jzz30tt |
First off, if you're actually trying to help, then great but cut the bitchy crap. You seem to actually care otherwise you wouldn't waste your time and effort posting. Bitching someone out isn't the way to do it.
I'll pm you my stats and i'd like to hear what you have to say. If i can learn something then great. But cut out the crap. No one here but you is letting lose with it.
Thanks |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by jzz30tt
First off, if you're actually trying to help, then great but cut the bitchy crap. You seem to actually care otherwise you wouldn't waste your time and effort posting. Bitching someone out isn't the way to do it.
I'll pm you my stats and i'd like to hear what you have to say. If i can learn something then great. But cut out the crap. No one here but you is letting lose with it.
Thanks
We're cool bro, check your pm. :) |
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| jzz30tt |
Thanks for the pm Snugs, that's the kind of help i need. I'm learning.
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by jzz30tt
Thanks for the pm Snugs, that's the kind of help i need. I'm learning.
:thumbup:
Cheers. :thumbup: |
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| bluSRT |
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Originally posted by ae1969
But to answer your question. The use of beta2 agonists for weightloss can be quite dangerous. The adverse effects that can occur from high doses of these drugs can make you quite uncomfortable and possibly kill you.
There is obviously no medical indication for the use of these drugs for weightloss. Trust me if there was a 0.01% chance it would work it would have been marketed already.
:D
Yes it can be dangerous but Tylenol can be dangerous to, if you take to much.
And for you to say that Clen does not work, or else they would put it out on the market for such a purpose is a load of crap. It works very very well, when used properly and the research has been done on it. Thats like saying if steroids had 0.01% chance of making you bigger/stronger it would be marketed (legally).
Im not suggesting that you run out and buy some, because as Snugs said there are probably a lot of other routes you could go first. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by bluSRT
Im not suggesting that you run out and buy some, because as Snugs said there are probably a lot of other routes you could go first.
Me and jzz talked on PM. He's well on his way to attaining his goals without the use of any drugs. :thumbup: |
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| bluSRT |
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Originally posted by snugs
Me and jzz talked on PM. He's well on his way to attaining his goals without the use of any drugs. :thumbup:
Good to hear. :thumbup: :thumbup: |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by bluSRT
.......It works very very well, when used properly and the research has been done on it. Thats like saying if steroids had 0.01% chance of making you bigger/stronger it would be marketed (legally)......
I love internet pharmacologists. :thumbup:
That drug has been around long before you were born...... Anecdotal evidence.......and studies based on mice, rats and horses does not instill confidence. These classes of drugs are covered in some basic first pharmacology classes. Once you have 8-10 years of this stuff under your belt then you can lecture us on what 'crap' really is.
That drug was investigated for the indication of muscle wasting in disease states such as cancer and aids. Oddly enough the risk to benefit ratio was not in favor of marketing the product.
Imagine what decisions must be made when a drug is considered not safe enough for terminal diseases.
This is the real stuff that happens in the real world that you don't read on the internet.
Trust me.
Working.......and working safely have two completely different outcomes. |
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| bluSRT |
^^^^^^^
Whatever you want to say Dr Phil, you can spare me the drawn out babbling. I never said it was completely safe or wouldnt have long term effects now did I. But you said it does not burn fat, well I have read otherwise and most importantly I have seen the effects of Clen on quite a few friends and people I know.
So that is "real" experience in the "real" world, and whats your "real" experience with it, books?
:rolleyes: :thumbup:
And Im talking strictly about the effects of weight loss, before you start to ramble again. |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by bluSRT
^^^^^^^
Whatever you want to say Dr Phil, you can spare me the drawn out babbling. I never said it was completely safe or wouldnt have long term effects now did I. But you said it does not burn fat, well I have read otherwise and most importantly I have seen the effects of Clen on quite a few friends and people I know.
So that is "real" experience in the "real" world, and whats your "real" experience with it, books?
:rolleyes: :thumbup:
And Im talking strictly about the effects of weight loss, before you start to ramble again.
:D LOL... Dr. Phil. Now that is someone who follows evidence based medicine. A cardboard box has more credentials than him....... but thats another topic.
.......I think someone has to explain to you the meaning of anecdotal evidence and its value in real world medicine and how it applies to "I know a friend that ...... "
You can't separate weight loss from all the other properties of this drug. To do so is foolish and risky.
Clen will enduce fat loss..........but at the expense of what.... Clen is classified as a poison and I am sure you are aware that any animal that has been given Clen can't be used for human consumption. We would give ourselves these agents? but not eat them?
I have had to analyze enough tox screens on so called weekend weight lifters that show up in emerg that it would make your head spin.
Nothing is more fun than seeing 20 year olds coming in suffering from dehydration, tachycardia etc.......
I am glad when I see experienced body builders like snug provide supplement and nutritional advice and at the same time caution individuals on the use of some of these drugs.
But when hammerheads spout off how they know a friend that........ blah blah blah....... Well comments like that are asinine. This stuff is not safe. |
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| snugs |
Can we have this pissing match somewhere else, further bickering just leads to more confusion for the people reading this and 99% of the issues that arise from people using these sorts of compounds incorrectly is because of what they heard from a friend of a friend.
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
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Originally posted by snugs
99% of the issues that arise from people using these sorts of compounds incorrectly is because of what they heard from a friend of a friend.
Or some dude from the internet.:lol: |
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| bluSRT |
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Originally posted by ae1969
:D LOL... Dr. Phil. Now that is someone who follows evidence based medicine. A cardboard box has more credentials than him....... but thats another topic.
.......I think someone has to explain to you the meaning of anecdotal evidence and its value in real world medicine and how it applies to "I know a friend that ...... "
You can't separate weight loss from all the other properties of this drug. To do so is foolish and risky.
Clen will enduce fat loss..........but at the expense of what.... Clen is classified as a poison and I am sure you are aware that any animal that has been given Clen can't be used for human consumption. We would give ourselves these agents? but not eat them?
I have had to analyze enough tox screens on so called weekend weight lifters that show up in emerg that it would make your head spin.
Nothing is more fun than seeing 20 year olds coming in suffering from dehydration, tachycardia etc.......
I am glad when I see experienced body builders like snug provide supplement and nutritional advice and at the same time caution individuals on the use of some of these drugs.
But when hammerheads spout off how they know a friend that........ blah blah blah....... Well comments like that are asinine. This stuff is not safe.
Again you are rambling on about the effects and dangers of it, I never said it was safe or would have no effects on a person now did I,. You said that if it had 0.01% of being effect for weight loss it would be marketed, and I said that is a load of crap it most definitley does cause weight loss. And I dont care what you think about "the friends" bit because I do know numerous (close) people that have used it and it caused them to lose weight, some of them a significant amount. And I dont get all my information from friends, there is numerous information on anything you want to know about. So yes I do research bodybuilding supps,chemicals etc etc. but hey you know me so you can judge. :rolleyes:
And AGAIN where did I say that he should use either product, I would like you to point that out for me too.
Bottom line, I said YES it can cause weight loss and I NEVER suggested the OP use it, hell I even gave props to Snugs for turning the OP away from it and doing it naturally.
Hell bulimics lose weight, but am I suggesting he does that? No but Im sure you will retort with how it doesnt either and how its unsafe.
Its funny how because you have "8-10" years of experience with pharmaceuticals and someone else doesnt you assume they know nothing about the topic and shouldnt comment on it, yet you cant comprehend a few simple paragraphs.
Please in the future fully read what a person types and comprehend it before replying.
:rolleyes:
So AGAIN, yes it does cause weight loss, and yes it can be very dangerous and have long term effects, especially when no research has been done on how to "properly" use it. No the OP should not use it and like Snugs has done, should take a natural route to acheive his goals. |
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| Solle |
I tried clen before! but i think ephidrine is just as good for fat loss. Clens pretty weak.
However, im taking T3 now for the first time, and its absolutely amazing and i've already lots about fifteen lbs, and havent changed my crappy eating habbits at all.
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| jzz30tt |
| T3's pretty hard on the liver isn't it Joey? |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by Solle
However, im taking T3 now for the first time,.......
serious ? how much daily? |
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| Praylewd powr |
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Originally posted by Solle
I tried clen before! but i think ephidrine is just as good for fat loss. Clens pretty weak.
However, im taking T3 now for the first time, and its absolutely amazing and i've already lots about fifteen lbs, and havent changed my crappy eating habbits at all.
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This astounds me. Lets play with my thyroid so I can still eat like shit.
wow.
just wow....... |
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| Solle |
| I'm taking .25ml 4 times daily. So just 1ml a day. I have friends who have been taking this stuff forever, and their never got any sides. In moderation its fine. |
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| Jord@n |
| I don't know as much as many others on this board about the different types of things you can take to lose weight, but I 100% agree that eating healthy and doing physical activity is the best way to lose weight and get in better shape. Not only that, you will feel better in the process and not screw up your body. I hope nobody will try these products after reading this thread and the negative feedback on them. |
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| ae1969 |
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Originally posted by Solle
I'm taking .25ml 4 times daily. So just 1ml a day. I have friends who have been taking this stuff forever, and their never got any sides. In moderation its fine.
1ml as in 10 mcg ............
Do you understand how your body reacts to a hormonal supplements? Has anyone ever discussed how this drug works in a negative feedback loop in your body? and the long term implications. |
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| snugs |
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Originally posted by Solle
I'm taking .25ml 4 times daily. So just 1ml a day. I have friends who have been taking this stuff forever, and their never got any sides. In moderation its fine.
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lol, if anybody wants me i'm going to go find a really nice brick wall and go bang my head against it for an hour or two. |
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