| Stainless |
Are the black steel-looking wheels with the low-profile tires manufactured by ford, or are they an aftermarket brand?
I'm looking for something similar for my SHO, and I am also curious if a steel wheel will hold up well laterally, for auto-crossing and other various spirited driving. |
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| NESTLE |
| i know the tires are goodyears. nice ones to. not to sure about the wheels. but they do look indestructable! |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Stainless
Are the black steel-looking wheels with the low-profile tires manufactured by ford, or are they an aftermarket brand?
I'm looking for something similar for my SHO, and I am also curious if a steel wheel will hold up well laterally, for auto-crossing and other various spirited driving.
I don't know who officially makes them, but they come from the factory with them on. Back in the late 90's you could buy a Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor Model from a dealership and you got the same thing the cops did at the time: beefed up suspension, 440 interceptor engine, reinforced frame, steel wheels, only offered in white, etc. The only thing you didn't get was the back seat cage and the law enforcement 4-ways. |
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| gab |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
I don't know who officially makes them, but they come from the factory with them on. Back in the late 90's you could buy a Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor Model from a dealership and you got the same thing the cops did at the time: beefed up suspension, 440 interceptor engine, reinforced frame, steel wheels, only offered in white, etc. The only thing you didn't get was the back seat cage and the law enforcement 4-ways.
ah yes the good ol ford 440 :dunno: |
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| euro_fcuk |
| planning on regulating huh :D |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by gab
ah yes the good ol ford 440 :dunno:
Yes, the 4.6L SOHC Modular V8 with a large "440 Interceptor" stamped on the block, though that only lasted for a few years before they stopped stamping them. The engine itself was the standard Modular V8 that was available in several Ford vehicles, but the "440 Interceptor" variant came with some performance modifications and stronger internals for increased reliability given the fact that they spend so much time on the road usually without stopping.
The variant name was chosen to honour the Dodge Coronet police interceptor, which was really the first "real" police cruiser since MOPAR would shut down it's factory for a few weeks over the year to completely reconfigure everything to make a car to exacting police standards. Naturally, it had the Dodge 440 Interceptor engine. It was a marketting ploy by Ford to try and win over the "old dogs" on the police force who'd been driving Dodge's for years and had a large say in what new vehicles would be purchased to replace aging cruisers.
That's the story I was told to explain why the 4.6L engine had a "440 Interceptor" stamped on it at least. |
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| gab |
| well i guess you learn something new everyday. i never knew they stamped their blocks with a number that was completely irrellavent to the actual motor size. but strange things happen when you party naked!! |
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| THUD |
Well the best way to find some is off old taxi cabs that are junked, thats your best bet.
I saw a bunch of cabs been taken in to the scrap heap that had them rims on them last week and there probably more to come so ya go find CO-OP cabs main building and yellows and who evers and for a few bucks they probably load you up.
My dad's old police car has a 351 Windsor with a monster vacuum pump with all sorts a hoses running every were and the tranny is the interceptor part of it.
basically a mustang motor with a good tranny and a huge alternator nothing to wild but the fleet version hi-way cop car could have been ordered with all sorts goodies, like dome pistons larger cam and exhaust system.
Ford had a 427 and a 460, dodge and olds had an 440's dodge had the 426 and I believe corvette had a 429... if I am wrong sorry I am a bit rusty on my rusty stuff. |
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| gab |
apparantly inspired by elwood blues.
cop motor, cop tires, cop brakes............
another car for the gotta have it list |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by gab
well i guess you learn something new everyday. i never knew they stamped their blocks with a number that was completely irrellavent to the actual motor size. but strange things happen when you party naked!!
And it helps that it wasn't being sold to the general public too I think. They never would've used a different company's gimmik on something the general public would see. When they started making thm available to the public, the engine was simply called the CVPI model and came with no stamping or branding aside from that required by law, which is what had been in place for serveral years even on actual police cruisers by then. But I know a guy who worked in the factory in Ontario (he was the one who explained the 440 Interceptor branding to me) and apparently internally at the factory they were still called 440's. |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by THUD
Well the best way to find some is off old taxi cabs that are junked, thats your best bet.
I saw a bunch of cabs been taken in to the scrap heap that had them rims on them last week and there probably more to come so ya go find CO-OP cabs main building and yellows and who evers and for a few bucks they probably load you up.
My dad's old police car has a 351 Windsor with a monster vacuum pump with all sorts a hoses running every were and the tranny is the interceptor part of it.
basically a mustang motor with a good tranny and a huge alternator nothing to wild but the fleet version hi-way cop car could have been ordered with all sorts goodies, like dome pistons larger cam and exhaust system.
Ford had a 427 and a 460, dodge and olds had an 440's dodge had the 426 and I believe corvette had a 429... if I am wrong sorry I am a bit rusty on my rusty stuff.
Olds didn't have a 440 IIRC. The 4-4-2 eventually came with a 455 which I believe was Olds' biggest engine. Their next biggest was the 400. My old man always moaned about the 455. They added 55 ci's and only managed a measely 20bhp increase. My uncle would debate the value of the 60 lb-ft increase in torque though, and they'd go on into the wee hours of the morning discussing 4-4-2 vs Superbird until they both gave in and admitted they would both drop everything for a mint GTO with a GM 455 that posted similar numbers to the Olds.
They were an odd pair when they started talking cars. They once compared and constrated a Plymouth Fury with a Chevelle, and I have no idea how they managed it. Apples and oranges. |
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| THUD |
| ok ya the 442 ...duuh thats what I was trying to think of, I know all 3 of the domestics must tryed every making every number there was between 1&1000 and then sum. |
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| Krall |
... back to the question! Of course they would hold up, if they were crap wheels that couldnt' take the stress, I guarantee the cop wouldn't use them, for chasing down the bad guys!
They use RSA's on the wheels, and my only issue with that is tread wear. Go down groat a few times, and those tires have no shoulders left.
Just go buy some steelies for cheap, throw some used rubber on'm for cheap, and within a few hunred dollars, you've got a lotta fun out on the track IMO.
- Jamos |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by Krall
... back to the question! Of course they would hold up, if they were crap wheels that couldnt' take the stress, I guarantee the cop wouldn't use them, for chasing down the bad guys!
They use RSA's on the wheels, and my only issue with that is tread wear. Go down groat a few times, and those tires have no shoulders left.
Just go buy some steelies for cheap, throw some used rubber on'm for cheap, and within a few hunred dollars, you've got a lotta fun out on the track IMO.
- Jamos
And that might be something worth considering. Police wheels aren't just boring, old steelies. They're build to last a LONG time, not help with performance. A normal set of steelies would probably weigh a lot less, but still have the added advantage that if they dent or scratch you don't really care because.....well....they're just POS steelies. |
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