| Ravendarat |
| Apperently on all mazda 3's produced there is an issue with them where as someone can basically punch the door on the body line right above door handle, and it will pop the lock opening the door an allowing someone to steal everything without much issue. The only reason I found out about this is because someone at work had their car broken into this way and he was told this by the Mazda dealer ship. Apparently there can be a plate put in each door to fix this issue, but I have never seen anything posted on the site about it so I figured I would throw it out there being this is an extremely popular car right now. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| Mazda dealership can fix it ...... thanks for letting everyone know which car to steal tonight |
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| Ravendarat |
| That clearly wasnt my intention and if I owned the car I would want to know so I could get it fixed ASAP, and if the dealership is telling people I would assume theives probally already know. The car still has coded keys so it cant be stolen easily but the contents can be. |
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| GQsmooth |
| so where's the recall?:dunno: |
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| rexxrally |
Geez, you'd think Mazda would have learned something about doors and door locks in the past 20 years.
In the first gen RX7's, if you lifted up the door handle, and peered into the hole in the door, there was a horizontal bar showing. Stick a screwdriver into the hole, lift up the bar, and the door unlocks.
Mazda back then also had a plate they could install in the door that would solve that problem.
It's deja vu all over again............... |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by Ravendarat
Apperently on all mazda 3's produced there is an issue with them where as someone can basically punch the door on the body line right above door handle, and it will pop the lock opening the door an allowing someone to steal everything without much issue. The only reason I found out about this is because someone at work had their car broken into this way and he was told this by the Mazda dealer ship. Apparently there can be a plate put in each door to fix this issue, but I have never seen anything posted on the site about it so I figured I would throw it out there being this is an extremely popular car right now.
Do you know if the Proteges have the same problem? I think.......03? My friend has one, but he's out of town. I know it's the same body style as the Mazda 3, but it was the year before they started calling them Mazda 3's. |
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| tegpowered |
| protege and mazda 3 are not the same |
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| blam |
mazda dealerships are installing plates and shock sensors to prevent this....
keep valuables out of the car and there is no reason to break into it....
it's no different then breaking a window...if the theif wants something badly enough they will get it...regardless of what they have to break.
did you know a swift punch to the windows will allow someone entry into a vehicle as well?
I believe it is only 04-06 that is affected...07s have the fix installed already |
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| Jord@n |
| I hope 07's are fixed :)...I'll look into it. |
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| Ayeso |
| LOL 88-91 civic have the identical problem, you can actually buy a plate that goes behind the handle for them thats how my was stolen once, and broken into once |
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| BigTrucker |
I was hoping this wouldn't be posted since it finally quieted down.
It hit hard in vancouver and has slowly moved west. Calgary is getting hit hard now and Edmonton is slowly catching up. |
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| BigTrucker |
Oh and Mazda isn't fixing the problem on the older 3's (04-06) unless your car gets broken into. Still then they will only cover the cost to fix the problem not fix your door. So your out $800 or so either way.
As you can tell, most of us older 3 owners are pretty pissed about this. |
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| Ayeso |
| Welcome to knowing what it feels like to own a civic :P |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by tegpowered
protege and mazda 3 are not the same
They look the same. Hence the question...which you didn't answer. |
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| Krall |
Thanks man! I just tried it, and it works.
I took all the shit otuta my buddies car, he'll freak!
JK but that's stupid, dumb Mazduh.
- Jamos |
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| kold |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
They look the same. Hence the question...which you didn't answer.
They do not look the same, and they do not have the same body style, or body. In fact, they are a completely different vehicle. Mazda3's did not come badged as Protege's and vice versa. The Protege's last year of production was 03, and the Mazda 3 came to replace it in 04.
As far as I know, the Protege is not affected by this issue. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by kold
They do not look the same, and they do not have the same body style, or body. In fact, they are a completely different vehicle. Mazda3's did not come badged as Protege's and vice versa. The Protege's last year of production was 03, and the Mazda 3 came to replace it in 04.
As far as I know, the Protege is not affected by this issue.
ZOMG! Completely different cars! The hood is inside out, one has extra side markers up front the other has extras in the back, one has hollow door handles, the front grill is shinier on one and the rearmost side windows are upside down, but aside from that they look NOTHING alike! How silly of me. I should never have mocked these minor, cosmetic differences since you'd never even recognize they're the same class of car. It's obvious they're COMPLETELY different underneath. Obviously not just minor changes in body panel shape, they're so blatantly different that the locking mechanism on the door could never be the same! I feel like a fool for asking :blue: |
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| kold |
So I try to give a legitimate answer to your question and you reply with know-it-all sarcasm?
Fine, so these cars look alike to you. I understand that since they are both 4 door hatchbacks that are of similar size, one who doesn't know any better would confuse the two as being the same car.
They are in fact built on two completely different platforms and chassis, and have completely different body panels and internals. I can't tell if you actually lack that knowledge or if you are somehow convinced that you know more than a knowledgeable owner that is just trying to help.
I was answering your question to try to be helpful and all you did was give a smartass sarcastic reply. Why?
I hope I helped you, anyway. If my car (Protege5) was affected by this issue, I'd definitely be on my way to getting this resolved asap, but it's not, so I'll just worry about the standard break in methods. |
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| BigTrucker |
to all theives....
please break my window and steal my shit that way, it's easier to prove to insurance and cheaper to get fixed that a whole new door panel
kthxbye |
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| Jord@n |
quote:
Originally posted by BigTrucker
to all theives....
please break my window and steal my shit that way, it's easier to prove to insurance and cheaper to get fixed that a whole new door panel
kthxbye
Most thieves don't use the internet, no worries. And the ones that do are thinking about breaking into nicer cars then Mazda 3's....:dunno: |
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| rythex |
Yes most meth heads use the internet... meth heads are fucking horrible, they should all be shot.
That's pretty lame that Mazda isn't fixing an obvious horrible defect on their car that basically makes locking it pointless.
Come to think of it, that's fucking horrible.. there are so many Mazda3's on the road.. I can see some fucking meth head cleaning out every mazda3 in the west ed parking lot in an afternoon... |
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| Cyanide Ride |
Just how hard exactly do you have to punch it to pop the lock?.
One of my co-workers has one and I'd like to freak them out without damaging the car. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by kold
So I try to give a legitimate answer to your question and you reply with know-it-all sarcasm?
Fine, so these cars look alike to you. I understand that since they are both 4 door hatchbacks that are of similar size, one who doesn't know any better would confuse the two as being the same car.
They are in fact built on two completely different platforms and chassis, and have completely different body panels and internals. I can't tell if you actually lack that knowledge or if you are somehow convinced that you know more than a knowledgeable owner that is just trying to help.
I was answering your question to try to be helpful and all you did was give a smartass sarcastic reply. Why?
I hope I helped you, anyway. If my car (Protege5) was affected by this issue, I'd definitely be on my way to getting this resolved asap, but it's not, so I'll just worry about the standard break in methods.
They look very similar. If I KNEW the internals, I wouldn't be asking the question, would I? If you had provided a simple answer without being so dismissive, I wouldn't have carried on. You're attitude was that they aren't similar at all, don't look alike, implied no one would consider them similar, and therefore assume the problem doesn't exist on both.
But they DO look alike. That's not special to me, I know tons of people who can't tell the difference. And at least 5 guys I know dirve in both regularly and still don't see much of a difference.
Maybe the problem is you assume non-owners know as much about them as you do and will accept a dismissive answer, but everyone I know thinks they're extremely similar.
Don't act like a know-it-all when answer the question, and you won't get a know-it-all response. |
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| kold |
Someone had already mentioned that they are different cars, thus implying that they wouldn't be affected by the same issues. You didn't buy that explanation and continued to say that they looked the same, asking for an actual answer to your question.
Being a former law enforcement officer, I would have expected you to be able to recognize different vehicles. It is my opinion that these cars look nothing alike. I personally don't know anyone who confuse the two, so I didn't know where you were coming from and thought you were just being an ass.
Anyways, my first post was not intended to be a smartass or know it all, I was simply trying to give you a straight up answer. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by kold
Someone had already mentioned that they are different cars, thus implying that they wouldn't be affected by the same issues. You didn't buy that explanation and continued to say that they looked the same, asking for an actual answer to your question.
Being a former law enforcement officer, I would have expected you to be able to recognize different vehicles. It is my opinion that these cars look nothing alike. I personally don't know anyone who confuse the two, so I didn't know where you were coming from and thought you were just being an ass.
Anyways, my first post was not intended to be a smartass or know it all, I was simply trying to give you a straight up answer.
I didn't reask it. I said they looked similar, posted 2 pictures, and compared them. If they have different locking mechanisms, that's great.
Being a car enthusiast, I would have expected you to be aware that developing a new locking mechanism and a new panel from scratch is not cost effective. Meaning an car one generation older and of similar design to another might conceivably use the same locking system, making the question I posed completely reasonable. That was the point I was trying to make with my reply.
Why should cops recognize different types of vehicles? Especially the vehicles that weren't produced until after they stopped being a cop? That's like saying all pilot should be able to recognize different planes, but I know pilot who, if asked, guess that 727's and 747's are 737's, let alone manage to tell the difference between that and any of the Airbuses.
I'm like superman. I just use my superhuman eyesight to read the model name on the back of the car. If you go badgeless, I have to use my super hearing to listen for people talking about it or fly fast around the earth to go back in time to when it was badged so I can see the model. |
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| BigTrucker |
quote:
Originally posted by Cyanide Ride
Just how hard exactly do you have to punch it to pop the lock?.
One of my co-workers has one and I'd like to freak them out without damaging the car.
you need to kick it, and you need to kick it hard.
it leaves a dent big enough that the door panel can't be repaired, it needs to be completely replaced. |
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| kold |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
I didn't reask it. I said they looked similar, posted 2 pictures, and compared them. If they have different locking mechanisms, that's great.
Being a car enthusiast, I would have expected you to be aware that developing a new locking mechanism and a new panel from scratch is not cost effective. Meaning an car one generation older and of similar design to another might conceivably use the same locking system, making the question I posed completely reasonable. That was the point I was trying to make with my reply.
Why should cops recognize different types of vehicles? Especially the vehicles that weren't produced until after they stopped being a cop? That's like saying all pilot should be able to recognize different planes, but I know pilot who, if asked, guess that 727's and 747's are 737's, let alone manage to tell the difference between that and any of the Airbuses.
Ok.
Well, now you know that they are different cars, so I guess you learned something.
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
I'm like superman. I just use my superhuman eyesight to read the model name on the back of the car. If you go badgeless, I have to use my super hearing to listen for people talking about it or fly fast around the earth to go back in time to when it was badged so I can see the model.
Ok... |
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| Cyanide Ride |
quote:
Originally posted by BigTrucker
you need to kick it, and you need to kick it hard.
it leaves a dent big enough that the door panel can't be repaired, it needs to be completely replaced.
Well,I would've kicked it anyways for good measure, that'll teach him ! :)
Maybe I'll go down there and experiment... |
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