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Legality of ET Streets / Tires Outside Fender - Click HERE for Original Thread

DarrylBleau
Relaying this question for a non-internet savvy friend...

He's got ET Streets on the back of his Mustang, sitting on rims that put them about an inch outside the fenders. Apparently, a cop told him this morning that if he saw the car like that again, that he would have the car towed.

AFAIK, ET Streets are DOT approved for street use, but thought I'd check up on that in case Canadian law differs on them.

Also, what's the law specific to outside fender tires?

Finally, could his car really be towed for this type of thing?

Thanks!

SilviaDrifter
should be 100% legal....
as long as they are dot......its no problem

Mobius
quote:
Originally posted by SilviaDrifter
should be 100% legal....
as long as they are dot......its no problem




DOT is irrelevant, being the Department of Transportation. Which is Gaymerican BTW.

Also because this isn't about the tires, as it is about the entire combination of wheels and tires on that particular setup being unsafe.

Grant
I belive that the tire cannot extend beyond the fender without having a mudflap or over-fender or something.

Ah, here it is:

http://www.canlii.org/ab/laws/regu/...0312/whole.html

quote:

Mudguards.

64 The body of a motor vehicle or trailer or a fender, mudguard or similar structure must cover the width of the tire and extend to the mid‑point of the axle when viewed from behind the vehicle.

SilverNeonRacer
Soo in a nut shell illegal - not the tires but the fenderless section. 4x4's running huge rubber face the same laws, but rarely inforced for them from what I hear.

Quick fix.. find some fender flares that look good on his car.. and slap them on :P

But I've always wondered, and prolly posted before about it.. how those one off custom 30's type roadsters are legal with completely open wheels... indy style..

EDISKRAD EHT
So that means my new rims are illegal???

dtjohnst
quote:
Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
So that means my new rims are illegal???




Only without mudflaps.

tho_chi
its a pretty sexy ride tho

EDISKRAD EHT
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
Only without mudflaps.


I guess if I can find some Gold and Chrome ones it'll blend ok.

SilverNeonRacer
quote:
Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
So that means my new rims are illegal???



Possibly not... cause that's not an Alberta car... if it was.. yup.. not the rims per say.. but the offset on that car would be them so

EDISKRAD EHT
I thought it was obviuos that I was joking.

Those rims are fucking hideous on that car.:lol: :lol:

SilverNeonRacer
quote:
Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
I thought it was obviuos that I was joking.

Those rims are fucking hideous on that car.:lol: :lol:



Those rims are hideious on anything but an old school low rider

DarrylBleau
So if he put some mudflaps on he'd be fine? How far forward do they have to be? That law states that they have to be down to the level of the axle when viewed from behind, but how far forward? No idea what that would look like but .. ignoring that aspect. Fender flares might be an idea.

Well that's one question taken care of, can anyone answer these other two?

1. Are ET Sreets legal for street use in Alberta?
2. Could a vehicle be towed for having tires stick outside the fender? Would it be a usual thing to do?

SilverNeonRacer
I think a car can be towed for any vehicle equipment violations. If the Officer deems it not to be road worthy or safe or what not. A cop tried to tow me for incorrect color bulbs in the middle of no where, lucky me I had the stockers in the car.

quote:

Pneumatic tire standards

59(1) The Motor Vehicle Tire Safety Regulations under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) are adopted and apply to pneumatic tires on a passenger car.

(2) A pneumatic tire that is intended to be used on a passenger car or is used on a passenger car must comply with the Motor Vehicle Tire Safety Regulations under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada).

(3) A person shall not drive or operate a passenger car unless all its wheels have pneumatic tires that comply with the requirements under the Motor Vehicle Tire Safety Regulations under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada).



I have the federal regs at home so I can post them.. generally if it has DOT markings they're fine. Might need a few other things like the M+S markings, etc...

Chances are the cop would tow for the sticking out from the fender not the actual tires... but you never know... Unless the tires plainly say "Drag Radial" on the side. :p

DarrylBleau
I believe the officer specifically told him that the tires themselves were not legal for a street car. I think it's possible that the officer is just ignorant about the particular tire, because it does look quite like a slick.

For reference, this is the tire we're talking about :



From the MT website:

quote:
Mickey Thompson's legendary race tire technology comes to the street with the ET Street Radial. Built using the latest in high tech radial construction techniques and years of drag racing experience and compound development, this D.O.T. approved street legal drag radial will get your car down the track in record time and drive you home with sure handling and an excellent ride.

EDISKRAD EHT
If the tires are DOT approved then they can't really say much about the actual tire itself IMO.




quote:
Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
Those rims are hideious on anything but an old school low rider



Exactly why I'm surprised you guys thought I was serious.:lol:

dtjohnst
quote:
Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
I think a car can be towed for any vehicle equipment violations. If the Officer deems it not to be road worthy or safe or what not. A cop tried to tow me for incorrect color bulbs in the middle of no where, lucky me I had the stockers in the car.



I have the federal regs at home so I can post them.. generally if it has DOT markings they're fine. Might need a few other things like the M+S markings, etc...

Chances are the cop would tow for the sticking out from the fender not the actual tires... but you never know... Unless the tires plainly say "Drag Radial" on the side. :p




If they're DOT approved for Street Use, they must have all the required markings and everything else.

EDISKRAD, I knew it wasn't your car, doesn't mean your question doesn't deserve an actual answer.




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