| shawley |
so last night leaving riverbend, after dropping my blue aristo off at home, me and my buddy were on our way back to work (certified) and right at the bp's in riverbend i pass a cop thats parked there and i'm going 70 in a 70, he turns out after me and follows me, he ends up going behind another car till we get on whitemud eastbound, and i'm just like okay i'm gonna go 80, and now my car is fully registered and insured, i duno what it says ont he cop computer about me but, i was going and the cop speeds up to pass that car then goes RIGHT behind me on ym ass i can't see his headlights, and follows me, i swith lanes and he follows on my ass does not move can't see his headlights.
now i take the 111st exit and put my signal light on as i'm going to be turning left onto 111st at the red light, the cop then turns on his signal light aswell, the cop stays on my ass can't see his headlights, then as the light turns green i turn it off to take 106st, and what does the cop do, turn OFF his signal light and follows me some more right one my ass cant' see his headlights when going off the line, then at 106 st i turn left and the cop goes right.
like wtf
can i call him in for bad driving, for tailgating me the entire way, sure i've had cops follow me in my skyline before like that but never tailgating me that bad and driving that badly. i think it's complete bullshit cus when i went to turn off a few times he just followed my every move.
and my car does not have a big exhaust, does not have tint, is just lowered on wheels. |
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| GQsmooth |
| should have tapped the brakes, or even slammed on them to give him a warning.:dunno: |
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| dtjohnst |
ROFL. Wow dude, you really hate the popo. I'm tempted to ask if you smoke lots of weed 'cause you seem really paranoid on top of it.
You have a nice car. You're not old. A cop followed you to see if you'd screw up, you didn't. Maybe he was a touch close, maybe not. You seem more annoyed that he followed you than you are at the distance he was behind you at, which to me implies your bigger issue is with police following you.
If you want to file a report, go right ahead. But given the amount of times you claim the cops have spoken to you for various illegal, semi-illegal and suspected illegal activities, I doubt your complaints will get you far. But feel free if you want to waste your time. |
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| bluciv93 |
| Your probably a cop too since you seem to have an answer to everyones question and here you are talking as if what this stupid cop did was absolutely the right thing. I bet you that if it was buddy tailgaiting the cops for a while, he wouldnt have made it 2 blocks without getting pulled over and getting slapped with stupid tickets. |
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| seevik |
| u pull on the ebrake. so he either hits you because he doesn't know how to drive, or just tap the brake, you wouldn't do anything wrong and if you get hit, you sue big time |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by bluciv93
Your probably a cop too since you seem to have an answer to everyones question and here you are talking as if what this stupid cop did was absolutely the right thing. I bet you that if it was buddy tailgaiting the cops for a while, he wouldnt have made it 2 blocks without getting pulled over and getting slapped with stupid tickets.
Yes, that's exactly it. I feel police officers are above the law and don't need to follow the law. It has NOTHING to do with answering Shawley's question, which was "can I complain", honestly and considering Shawley's PAST posts about being "harassed" by the cops.
He's going to have a nice, thick file. Complaints from people with thick files don't tend to go anywhere. I told him his complaint would likely go unnoticed, not that he would be lying if he did complain.
That make sense now? Or do you wanna keep trying to make it sound like I said something I never did? |
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| EK9Hatch |
I probably would have just pulled into the first parking lot I saw, then parked. If he followed you in, I would have asked him if he needed something.
Jamie |
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| Talon_66 |
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Originally posted by bluciv93
Your probably a cop too since you seem to have an answer to everyones question and here you are talking as if what this stupid cop did was absolutely the right thing. I bet you that if it was buddy tailgaiting the cops for a while, he wouldnt have made it 2 blocks without getting pulled over and getting slapped with stupid tickets.
I find dtjohnst is unbiased in his information, and also fair. He gives his information in a no non-sense bullshit free way. I think his posts are informative and he does well in this section of the forum |
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| DivineRight |
Gee, a cop follows around a vehicle that he finds suspicious...How about that? The guy did his job, the cop did not harm you in any way but because of the simple fact you were the one who was followed you cry about it on these forums?
I especially loved this line:
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"i duno what it says ont he cop computer about me but"
Yep, you are just an angel there.
The next time a police officer wants to follow someone, should they stop you and ask you at your door "sir, can I follow you because I think you are suspicious? As well, you need to tell me what your comfort level is in case I follow too closely to your vehicle." There are many reasons your car could have been followed. There might have been public complaints in the area of drug dealers. There might have been a B&E that occured nearby. There might have been a car stolen that matched the description of your vehicle. The reasons are endless and again, the cop was doing his job. You weren't hurt, you weren't inconveinenced and in the end nothing happened.
As for bluciv93, you are a moron as your writing and spelling clearly show. (Learn the difference between "your" and "you're", they teach it in grade 2) Why would someone follow around a police officer, especially one of your "buddies"? Who's job is it to follow around suspicious vehicles? Who's job is it to enforce traffic law? I'll give you a hint, NOT YOURS OR BUDDY'S!
You don't have to be a cop to know what is right or wrong. You also don't have to be a cop to understand that Edmonton is going to the shits because we have so many shitheads in the city. So you were followed by the cops, BIG DEAL! I'd rather be pulled over for a quick check in my neighbourhood on my way home from work and know that there are police presence patrolling the area than come home and see my neighbour's houses broken into, cars stolen or crackheads on my street corners. |
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| ehos |
BRAKE CHECK!
Seriously though, the learners manual says you should 'gradually slow down' and let the tailgater pass you. |
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| bluciv93 |
quote:
Originally posted by DivineRight
Gee, a cop follows around a vehicle that he finds suspicious...How about that? The guy did his job, the cop did not harm you in any way but because of the simple fact you were the one who was followed you cry about it on these forums?
I especially loved this line:
Yep, you are just an angel there.
The next time a police officer wants to follow someone, should they stop you and ask you at your door "sir, can I follow you because I think you are suspicious? As well, you need to tell me what your comfort level is in case I follow too closely to your vehicle." There are many reasons your car could have been followed. There might have been public complaints in the area of drug dealers. There might have been a B&E that occured nearby. There might have been a car stolen that matched the description of your vehicle. The reasons are endless and again, the cop was doing his job. You weren't hurt, you weren't inconveinenced and in the end nothing happened.
As for bluciv93, you are a moron as your writing and spelling clearly show. (Learn the difference between "your" and "you're", they teach it in grade 2) Why would someone follow around a police officer, especially one of your "buddies"? Who's job is it to follow around suspicious vehicles? Who's job is it to enforce traffic law? I'll give you a hint, NOT YOURS OR BUDDY'S!
You don't have to be a cop to know what is right or wrong. You also don't have to be a cop to understand that Edmonton is going to the shits because we have so many shitheads in the city. So you were followed by the cops, BIG DEAL! I'd rather be pulled over for a quick check in my neighbourhood on my way home from work and know that there are police presence patrolling the area than come home and see my neighbour's houses broken into, cars stolen or crackheads on my street corners.
im sorry mr professor about my spelling error. this is a car forum not a spelling test and if you have a problem understanding it maybe your the moron and you should go back to grade two.
as for the cop riding his ass to the point where he cant even see the cops headlights, i agree that if there was something suspecious abut him he has the right to follow him but he could of simply pulled him over and checked him out. |
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| mparns |
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Originally posted by Talon_66
I find dtjohnst is unbiased in his information, and also fair. He gives his information in a no non-sense bullshit free way. I think his posts are informative and he does well in this section of the forum
ditto. without him would there be any REAL information on various questions? |
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| Blackout-spec |
isn't illegal to follow to close?
i believe you can get a ticket for that...
which means that cop was in the wrong. even if he wanted to follow there is no reason he had to be a prick and ride your ass. i agree, cops feel they are above the law. so many times i have seen a cop just flash his lights to get to an intersection, then pull into a fast food place. thats BS!!!!
also, if he did rear end you, that would be funny as shit! and what can you say... there was a bird flying across the road and i didnt want it to hit my car so i braked.
if he cant stop and hits you, hes following to close, and if you cant even see his headlights, then thats within like a foot!
no way that legal.
if it was me, id hit the brakes.
and wtf does his previous complaints have to do with his current complaint?
who cares if he has 100 or 0 complaints. thats a legit complaint. especially when a cop is suppose to ENFORCE the law, not break the law in order to get you to fuck up so he can be a prick and give you a ticket.
you should have taken a picture in your mirror for proof..
id complain, doesnt do you any wrong. |
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| Ayeso |
Actually, I have had an incident with a police officer following to close. I have NOTHING against a cop following me, to see if I am up to no good, or running my plates or whatever if he has reason to suspect something that is completely fine with me he is just doing his job. My problem is when I am getting followed to the point where if i hit my brakes he would probably nail me, and as i turn a corner, it was a 180 degree turn, so i slowed down to about 5-10km/hr and he was on my ass the entire time i turned he didnt pause and wait for me to go nothing.
If i did the exact same thing to him I would be getting a ticket for following to close. That is what I think the OP has grief with. |
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| The Daver |
| I really dislike hearing shit like this and poeple defending the cop. He was being a dick no matter how you look at it there was no need to get that close he could have easily ran the plate number from a car length back. I have been in the same situation and it sucks I would rather just have him pull me over especially if I have nothin to hide. Also I have heard that you lay on the brakes and if they hit you they get a following to closely ticket but they will just fight it and lie in court and say that they had their cherries on and its just your word against his/hers. And of course his word is better than yours so you pretty much get screwed and damage to your car so whateva all you can do is put up with it. |
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| 4kruzn |
"sorry about your front bumper officer but a dog ran across the street and i couldnt just run over it"...says shawn shortly after stoping very abrupty...
i grew up in a small town and one night the police were board... i was out cruising around and they decided to folow me fairly close. i chose to drive as close to the speed limit as posible at all times and did alittle zig zagging action though town. after about five or eight min of that they just split. personally i had fun with it. kinda like a low speed chase. they never stoped me or anything. but they all new me by name cause it was a very small town so... who really knows what they were up to.
Awsome quaote of the day...
by... dtjohnst
Yes, that's exactly it. I feel police officers are above the law and don't need to follow the law.
WOW thats is the stupidest thing you have said on this board ever!
next ill bet youll tell me, But yes, the police are the law... |
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| ~sanj~ |
| im thinking it was a sarcastic comment that dtjohnst said |
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| WorkInProgress |
dtjohnst is here to answer questions, he gets enough bullshit and enough rude comments from everyone BECAUSE of his training, leave the guy alone!
this is HIS (not specifically his, but because of his MP history, he has a right to post here) section to respond to questions for law-enforcement related topics.
he doesn't HAVE to waste his time answering questions, but he does so without hesitation, because he feels (i presume) that by sharing some of his knowledge people in this city won't fuck up quite so much...
there was a really easy way to deal with the situation, signal and pull over to the side of the road. it would have taken 30 seconds... either the cop would have passed you, or stopped and got out to talk. then you would have known why he was following you. |
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| 91laserrs |
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Originally posted by WorkInProgress
there was a really easy way to deal with the situation, signal and pull over to the side of the road. it would have taken 30 seconds... either the cop would have passed you, or stopped and got out to talk. then you would have known why he was following you.
I agree with pulling over. If he had got out of his car I simply would have said to him I thought he wanted to pass me.
Or had some fun and drove 10 km under them limit or something stupid.
On the other hand I have learned that if you act as if you belong on the road and doing nothing wrong they will most likly leave you alone. When I had my class 7 I drove from edmonton to toronto and got followed for several kms by the rcmp, at first I was scared but then I remember being told to act as if I belonged and thats what I did. He left me alone. As for being followed too close could always get the car number and walk in the station...?
I got an idea, drive to the nearest tim hortons and he be distracted from you then.:lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| DivineRight |
The Daver, I also dislike hearing all the band-wagoners who jump into cop bashing sessions the minute they hear that "something a cop did wasn't right". I'm not saying all of them are great people, there is always an asshole in the bunch but why is it that people love to side with these supposed "innocent people" automatically without looking at the situation fairly?
I also call bullshit on those people who say things like this:
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so many times i have seen a cop just flash his lights to get to an intersection, then pull into a fast food place. thats BS!!!!
If you see it "so man times" then why haven't you reported it? When and where were these instances? Call the police complaint line and report it in, get the vehicle number and do it. Chances are, you are probably full of shit though and making it up. |
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| Blackout-spec |
^ haha sure... i love to waste my time and lie about stuff on the internet's just to join the bandwagon!
i dont see why anyone would lie just for fun.
and i didnt report him because i cant actually prove it. so why would i go out of my way to find a police station and waste my time filing a police report when i could be doing whatever i planed on doing.
hes not going to get in shit anyways!!!
ie. (was in the news) cops uses stun gun on jaywalker. jaywalker sues. cop gets away with a small suspension. WOHO for the law.
so dont tell me that by filing a complaint that its even going to affect that cop anyways. so call bs, i saw what i saw, and dont care what you think.
shawn, even if you file a complaint, it wont do anything man. next time just remember what you read on here and do as you wish. |
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| maxpowers |
| cops follow me all the time, i think they must like me :drama: |
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| dtjohnst |
I'm not going to quote posts here 'cause there's too many, so it'll be a jumble.
An office doesn't follow you just to "run your plates". There are many valid, legal reasons for a police officer to follow someone. Yes, he can run plates from a few car lengths back. However, "not being able to see headlights" is not the definition of following too close. Maybe shawley was slumped in his seat, maybe he has a real huge ass on his car, there are tons of reasons why the distance MAY have been acceptable.
However, I did not accuse Shawley of lying. The officer may have been following at an "unreasonably close" distance. It's definately possible. And if he was, I would encourage people to complain. But that wasn't Shawley's question. My response to Shawley addressed Shawley's situation and Shawley's situation only.
Why does the number of complaints matter? Have you ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf? Worse yet, people who are constantly being stopped and questioned by police generally aren't taken too seriously when they complain because the assumption is they just hate cops.
Is that fair? Probably not in all cases. But is it fair for officers if every complaint is taken as truthful and no benefit of doubt is given to the officer when you consider the sheer volume of complaints that come in? No, that's not fair either. The complaint will go in the officers file, as all complaints do, but it will carry VERY LITTLE weight, which will make it a waste of Shawley's time.
As always, this is merely my opinion. I will not be taking the complaint. I was not the officer in question. I never worked for EPS. There is no guarantee what I say is what actually will happen. But it is based on 7 years of experience working in law enforcement with at least a dozen friends still working in the field.
Insofar as tailgating goes, slamming on your breaks, in my opinion, is not the way to solve it. The best way to deal with these jerk-offs is to slow down, pull over, and let them pass. If it's a jerk in a truck, he'll honk his horn and shake his fist as you slow down, and you smile and wave.
If it's a cop, he has 2 choices. He can other stop and ask you about whatever it is he's decided to follow you for (if there is something), or he'll carry on about his business. But in most cases, a cop is profiling. He's following someone he thinks looks likely to speed, run a red light, something. Usually someone young or driving a car with lots of exterior. Is profiling fair? No, not really. But if you don't break the law, the profiling ends up being a waste of the cop's time, and you lose nothing.
As for cops using lights and sirens to get to a fast food joint...seriously, do you know what happened in the fast food joint? Do you know someone didn't file a complaint there and was waiting for them? Do you know there isn't a silent alarm around the corner and they don't want to alert any suspects to the presence of cars?
The fact is, there are groups and bodies who's job is to oversee the men and women in law enforcement. Their radio transmissions are monitored, their movements are tracked, their cases are followed up on, they're constantly being retrained and evaluated. Cops who use their authority for personal gain are not cops for long, becaue they DO get caught. |
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