| little_one_der |
Why on earth are cyclists allowed/supposed to be on the roadways? They cannot keep up with the flow of traffic. Shit, no wheres near 30 kph... I generally see them drift in the middle of the curb lane. Causing passing traffic to swerve into the next lane...More often then not, oblivious to their surroundings and the vehicles nearby. They is WAY less "traffic" *read pedestrians* for them on the sidewalks.
Why not have them on the sidewalks everywhere, except for downtown and Whyte Avenue, where there actually is pedestrians on the sidewalks.
And I know someone is going to bring up the biker-walker incidents that occur from time to time, but what is the fatality rate of those accidents? 1%, less maybe? And what is the fatality rate of bicker-vehicle accidents? 90%, or more?
I'm afraid to honk at them to move over a little because I might startle them, causing them to fall into the vicinity of my front sub-frame... squishy squishy. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Because in the eyes of the law a bike has to follow the rules of the road.. like if you see a cyclist at a cross walk.. if they are not dismounted you don't have to stop for them.
In my prime I used to pass cars if I didn't have a head wind.
I can't remember where I hear it from, not have I looked for it in the regs, but it is my current understanding that when you pass a cyclist, you can't just swirve around or move half way into the other lane, you are supposed to give them a full lane, and if you can't don't pass.. would you not give a motorbike/moped/scooter a full lane? |
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| little_one_der |
Those vehicles you mentioned are all powered. And can all do the speed limit.
And yes, I give them a full lane when passing.
Edit: and I'm asking WHY the law sees them as vehicles. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
Dunno why but he's the "rules of the road" they fall under
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Rights and duties of operator
75 Unless the context otherwise requires, a person who is operating a cycle on a highway has all the rights and is subject to all the duties of a person driving a motor vehicle under Part 1 and this Part and Division 2 of Part 5 of the Act.
Restrictions re mopeds, etc.
76 A person who is under the age of 16 years and is operating a moped or power bicycle shall not carry any passengers on the moped or power bicycle.
Operation of cycle
77(1) A person who is operating a cycle on a highway
(a) shall keep both hands on the handlebars of the cycle, except when making a signal in accordance with this Regulation or shifting the gears of the cycle,
(b) shall keep both feet on the pedals or foot rests of the cycle other than when stopped,
(c) shall not ride other than on or astride a regular seat of the cycle, and
(d) shall not use the cycle to carry more persons at one time than the number for which the cycle is designed and equipped.
(2) A person who is operating a cycle, other than a motor cycle, on a highway shall operate the cycle as near as practicable to the right curb or edge of the roadway unless that person is in the process of making a left turn with the cycle.
(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a person who is operating a cycle, other than a motor cycle, on a one-way highway in an urban area shall ride as near as practicable to either curb or edge of the roadway unless that person is in the process of crossing from one curb or edge of the roadway to the opposite curb or edge of the roadway.
(4) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a person who is operating a cycle, other than a motorcycle, on a highway that has shoulders
(a) in the case of a highway that has paved shoulders, shall operate the cycle on the right shoulder, and
(b) in the case of a highway that does not have paved shoulders, shall operate the cycle as far to the right of the roadway as practicable,
unless that person is in the process of making a left turn.
(5) A person who is riding as a passenger on a cycle
(a) shall not ride other than on a regular seat of the cycle that is designed to be used by a passenger, and
(b) shall keep both feet on the foot rests provided for the use of the passenger riding on the seat.
Travel single file
78 A person who is operating a cycle on a highway in the same direction in the same traffic lane, except when overtaking and passing another cycle,
(a) shall not operate the cycle adjacent to another cycle travelling in the same direction, and
(b) in the case of a cycle other than a motor cycle, where more than one cycle is travelling in the near vicinity of and in the same direction as another cycle, shall operate the cycle directly in line with and to the rear or front of the other cycle.
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
i dont think it would be much of a problem if 99% of the cyclists just obeyed this rule
"(2) A person who is operating a cycle, other than a motor cycle, on a highway shall operate the cycle as near as practicable to the right curb or edge of the roadway unless that person is in the process of making a left turn with the cycle."
i find most of them are like 3 ft from the curb leaving BARELY enough room for a truck to pass, which as mentioned before causes them to drift into the adjacent lane...
you also get some idiots who believe they are allowed in any lane of choice because bicycles are considered vehicles when on the road..and you get those goofs in the spandex right in the middle of the lane like they will keep up with traffic.. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
The goof's who ride int he center of the lane are forcing people to give them a full lane.
I know that say on whyte ave.. if there are cars parked they are supposed to stay as far as possible in teh right lane, not bounce between far right parking lane and far right right lane... unless it's a long stretch without parked cars.. it also helps other cars know if they are going straight or turning cause most cyclists don't give the hand signals for turning either.. |
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| little_one_der |
So you're telling me if I drive my car at about 10 ~ 15 kph, I wont get a ticket, ever?
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| Stainless |
I'm not sure if it was Alberta that it applied to, but I was under the assumption that any vehicle under 250cc was not allowed on primary highways. I know that there are signs on the Trans-Canada in BC that say no vehicles not capable of 100 (or maybe 90) km/h.
If the speed is low enough, isn't the person susceptible to some sort of obstructing safe flow of traffic law?
I used to cycle competitively, but I remember always trying to give cars room to go by when it was safe, so I didn't give cyclists a bad rep to drivers. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by little_one_der
So you're telling me if I drive my car at about 10 ~ 15 kph, I wont get a ticket, ever?
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Not quite sure where this came from.. I'm not being sarcastic.. just not sure... I can post the section on slow moving vehicles :P |
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| fcukven1 |
| Can you please post that slow moving article cause doing 30 or 40km should be ticketable, i understand that non marked roads are 50k that would put them -20k come on . Im from toronto and thats a ticket there, cause your obtructing traffic flow. |
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| jberger |
| i just pass then at regluar speed, im not going to get hurt hahhahaha |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by fcukven1
Can you please post that slow moving article cause doing 30 or 40km should be ticketable, i understand that non marked roads are 50k that would put them -20k come on . Im from toronto and thats a ticket there, cause your obtructing traffic flow.
here we go:
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Driving at appropriate speed
2(1) A person shall not do any of the following:
(a) notwithstanding that a speed limit is prescribed by or pursuant to the Act or any other Act in respect of a highway, drive a vehicle on that highway at any rate of speed that is unreasonable having regard to all the circumstances, including without restricting the generality of the foregoing, the following:
(i) the nature, condition and use of the highway;
(ii) the atmospheric, weather or other conditions that might affect the visibility of the driver or the control of the vehicle;
(iii) the amount of traffic that is or that might reasonably be expected to be on the highway;
(iv) the mechanical condition of the vehicle or any equipment on the vehicle;
(b) subject to this Part and Part 2, where a highway that is located outside an urban area has 2 or more traffic lanes on the same side of the centre line for use by vehicles travelling in the same direction, drive a vehicle in the traffic lane nearest the centre line unless the vehicle is being driven at or near the maximum speed permitted;
(c) drive a vehicle at such a slow rate of speed so as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic then existing on a highway except when it is necessary to do so for the safe operation of the vehicle or to comply with Parts 1 and 2.
(2) Notwithstanding subsection (1)(b), a person driving a vehicle on a highway at a speed that is below the maximum speed limit that is established or prescribed for that highway may drive the vehicle in the traffic lane nearest to the centre line for the purpose of overtaking and passing another vehicle.
(3) A peace officer may direct a person who is driving a vehicle in contravention of subsection (1)(c) or section 115(2)(q) of the Act to do one or more of the following:
(a) increase the rate of speed at which the vehicle is travelling;
(b) remove the vehicle from the roadway;
(c) drive the vehicle in a different traffic lane.
(4) Where a peace officer gives a direction to a person driving a vehicle under subsection (3), that person shall operate the vehicle in accordance with the direction.
AR 304/2002 s2;8/2005
Slow moving vehicles
3(1) If a person driving a vehicle is driving the vehicle on a highway at a speed that is less than the normal speed of the traffic on the highway at that time and place and under the conditions then existing, that person shall drive the vehicle
(a) in the right traffic lane then available for traffic, or
(b) as close as practicable to the right curb or edge of the roadway,
except when either
(c) overtaking and passing another vehicle travelling in the same direction, or
(d) preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(2) If a traffic control device directs slow moving traffic to use a designated traffic lane, a person when driving a vehicle slowly shall drive the vehicle only in that lane.
Soo really you can't drive slow for the sake of driving slow... if you have a reason aka on a donut tire, towing, car over heats about x speed... what ever then it's fine to go slow |
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| HEWSINATOR |
Well....When I ride in town I am usually going anywhere from 25-40 km/h depending on wind, etc... There is not a way to ride a bike on the sidewalk safe, there just isn't. Multi-use trails are bad enough. So, you ride on the street, close to the curb lane, and assholes that think that you should not be there choose to buzz you by giving you a foot of room instead of writing their MLA.
The other thing people do not respect is how much wind a passing car/truck produces and how unstable this makes you when they are passing completely in the same lane you are riding in.
As for speed. More often than not if I am riding in the city with the exception of freeways, I will get somewhere faster than a car, travelling at a constant rate without going and stopping at so many lights. It seems to piss people off to no end when they pass you, then next thing they know you are pulling up next to them at the light.
Whether you think cyclists should be there or not, keep everybody safe. |
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| robyn402 |
i seriously hate cylcist when they decide that they are traffic.... i mean they're soft and squishy on 20 lbs of metal... i'm behind about 2000lbs of metal going abit fater then them...
when i had a bike i road the sidewalks, and that was in the country where you don't have to worry about crazy edmonton drivers lol
and when i see anyone on a bike i stay in the far lane.. ya never know |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by HEWSINATOR
Well....When I ride in town I am usually going anywhere from 25-40 km/h depending on wind, etc... There is not a way to ride a bike on the sidewalk safe, there just isn't. Multi-use trails are bad enough. So, you ride on the street, close to the curb lane, and assholes that think that you should not be there choose to buzz you by giving you a foot of room instead of writing their MLA.
The other thing people do not respect is how much wind a passing car/truck produces and how unstable this makes you when they are passing completely in the same lane you are riding in.
As for speed. More often than not if I am riding in the city with the exception of freeways, I will get somewhere faster than a car, travelling at a constant rate without going and stopping at so many lights. It seems to piss people off to no end when they pass you, then next thing they know you are pulling up next to them at the light.
Whether you think cyclists should be there or not, keep everybody safe.
You're supposed to stop at all the lights..... |
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| midnite |
i don't mind cyclists at all, as i used to bike a lot when i was younger.
except for the couriers downtown.. i've almost smoked a couple of them while they zig zag between traffic all across the road. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
You're supposed to stop at all the lights.....
I think it was ment that by the time he got to the next set of light they were already green.. so he caught up to a car that had to stop... |
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| srt-4toys |
| my biggest pet peev with bikes are the guys that come right up to the front at a red light after you spent however long trying to get around them |
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| 180sxforthewin |
| couriers are so amusing to watch downtown. They are insane. Break all sorts of rules. It pisses me off when they go to the front aswell but i would do the same if i were them. The worst is when you have to pass one on a double lane road with a parking lane. They always rider farther out into the inside lane so you have to change lanes to get around them. W/e i get paid by the hour, i can wait. |
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| shortie |
as a cyclist and driver, I have two feelings.
Yes many cyclists are r-tards and dont know how to stop or obey road rules. and that is stupid and they should be booted off the road. But then, keeping as far right as possible is not always the easiest, the road slants alot and is gravelly and can be dangerous for those of us with race type bikes.
Really, coming from the west coast I am used to drivers knowing how to drive with cyclists on the road. I would get up at 5am to ride when I lived near whyte because the chances of getting nailed by someone was so much less - although even at 5am once I was 3ft from being t-boned by some jackass in a shitty car who blew a stop sign and came right at me. wtf.
If I didnt have to use the roads, I wouldnt. trust me. cyclists hate it just as much as drivers do (and when I am driving there are times where I want to reach out and smack the stupid cyclists who are being stupid). Back home we have a zillion bike lanes where the city has widened the road for a bike lane - these span much of the city and it is great for everyone involved. but then, back home, we all ride during the winter too because it doesnt go below frickin 0C like SOME places :rolleyes: |
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| Godzilla |
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Originally posted by robyn402
i seriously hate cylcist when they decide that they are traffic.... i mean they're soft and squishy on 20 lbs of metal... i'm behind about 2000lbs of metal going abit fater then them...
not to thread jack but, do you have a completely stripped interior with full carbon fibre body panels, and a hayabusa engine swap or.... |
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| 180sxforthewin |
quote:
Originally posted by robyn402
i seriously hate cylcist when they decide that they are traffic.... i mean they're soft and squishy on 20 lbs of metal... i'm behind about 2000lbs of metal going abit fater then them...
when i had a bike i road the sidewalks, and that was in the country where you don't have to worry about crazy edmonton drivers lol
and when i see anyone on a bike i stay in the far lane.. ya never know
My bike is 54 pounds:lol: :lol:
You can get a hefty ticket for riding on the sidewalks i beleive. |
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| shortie |
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Originally posted by 180sxforthewin
My bike is 54 pounds:lol: :lol:
You can get a hefty ticket for riding on the sidewalks i beleive.
54lbs?! wtf
mine is no more than like 6lbs lol |
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| little_one_der |
| Yeah. Is that like solid bar steel frame? |
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| Thegnome |
54lbs = a big dualy.
I hate cyclists being on the road too. I in no way want to get into trouble for hitting the retard who doesn't look and swerves infront of my car.
I've been riding bikes all my life, and I'll chance a ticket on the sidewalk instead of riding in the street, and If I do go out onto the road, I'm not riding in the middle of the lane with a big middle finger stamped on the back of my head just asking to get mowed over.
But then, at least its summer and you dont have to worry about the guys who feel they should still ride on the street in winter. |
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| GOT BOOST |
Hey guys,
I take the opposite view.
Back in July I was driving south on 109 st close to whyte just after the High level. I see this nice tight hunny on a bike in the curb lane. As luck would have it, I was stuck behind her for a while enjoying the view. We came up to whyte ave she moved over to allow cars to pass so she would not impact traffic. When we reached the lights on whyte I was stopped on a red. She had pulled in behind my car in where she was in plain sight in the rear view mirror. All I saw was a nice tight body, gorgeous girl with brunette hair, and massive bewbs falling out of her sports bra and tight short shorts. Needless to say when the light turned green, that had to have been the slowest I had taken off from the lights in my life. Infact I do not think I hit the speed limit for a little while, as there were busses in my lane. :D Sure, I could have changed lanes, but I was not in a rush! :D :drool:
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| shortie |
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Hey guys,
I take the opposite view.
Back in July I was driving south on 109 st close to whyte just after the High level. I see this nice tight hunny on a bike in the curb lane. As luck would have it, I was stuck behind her for a while enjoying the view. We came up to whyte ave she moved over to allow cars to pass so she would not impact traffic. When we reached the lights on whyte I was stopped on a red. She had pulled in behind my car in where she was in plain sight in the rear view mirror. All I saw was a nice tight body, gorgeous girl with brunette hair, and massive bewbs falling out of her sports bra and tight short shorts. Needless to say when the light turned green, that had to have been the slowest I had taken off from the lights in my life. Infact I do not think I hit the speed limit for a little while, as there were busses in my lane. :D Sure, I could have changed lanes, but I was not in a rush! :D :drool:
Mike
lol, I was gonna say that sounds like it coulda been me out for a ride - I lived right off 109th and whyte area... then you mentioned the large boobies :blink:
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I coulda bought me a pair, but I decided to import me a nice ride instead... :dunno: (besides, they would just slow you down and add weight to your car haha) |
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| Jojdm |
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Originally posted by jberger
i just pass then at regluar speed, im not going to get hurt hahhahaha
I just try to get as close as I can. |
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| Jojdm |
I'd really like to see cyclists pull the same shit they pull here as in a country in south america
they'd most definately be run off the road. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by Jojdm
I just try to get as close as I can.
I've hit car that have done that, intentionally.. as a cyclist, if you tried to get the cops involved they'd probably give you a ticket..
heh fucks up the paint, and sometimes leaves a dent.
I've had people do that when I was riding a 1200lbs ice cream bike.... slight swirve to the left to a dodge a "pothole" and it freaks them right out. |
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| aarrgghh |
| I've spent my share of time biking on the streets (and on the marked bike paths where you should be if they are there as they are safter). But the habit of some bikers realy drives me nuts when I give an entire lane to pass and then they pull up right next to my door at the next light and barely give me room to move with woring about the door paint! If you're a vehicle on the road and cars need to pass in the next lane that means you stop behind all the cars and not pass them in the same lane. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by aarrgghh
I've spent my share of time biking on the streets (and on the marked bike paths where you should be if they are there as they are safter). But the habit of some bikers realy drives me nuts when I give an entire lane to pass and then they pull up right next to my door at the next light and barely give me room to move with woring about the door paint! If you're a vehicle on the road and cars need to pass in the next lane that means you stop behind all the cars and not pass them in the same lane.
When I rode alot, what I would do is pull up next tot he cars, but a little around the corner, like a few feet, more where a pedestrian would stand... so I'm not inches away from a car. then based on the road on the other side of the intersection, if it was a tight road without a parking lane I would go slow, let all the cars that passed me once, pass me again before I cross the road(hugging the cross walk lanes, so I'm not in their way).
You know not side way back in traffic and not make the light, but not piss off the guys that already managed to pass me. |
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| prophetes1 |
One thing that i'd like to say is that there are many cyclists out there that try not to be a pain in the ass for car dirvers so dont make stereotype please. Many of them try to move over when some1 is trying to pass them (especially if there is only 1 lane each way.) but all of you have understand, that sometimes it is not that easy for them... some of them have road bikes where the wheel is as wide as my finger, and a small pothole can make them lose balance or get a flat tire, which could also make them lose balance. Sometimes you see a "goof in spanadax" going in the middle of the lane on whyte ave or w/e and they dont move over... yeah it pisses us all off.. but looking at it from his point of view... its not a nice feeling to have a vehicle pass you in the same lane that you are in only few inches away from you.
Cyclists that piss me off are the ones that go in other lanes than the right lane (unless they are turning left), the ones that dont have any flashing lights at night to mark them and on top of that they are wearing dark clothes so you cant really see them at night, and the ones that dont signal to show what they are doing.
Also the ones that you just passed and they go up beside you at the next light.
You would not believe how many competitive cyclists there are in Edmonton (go to Legislature on Canada day and see) and they all try to look for a place to train. Well.... if you want to do some endurance or intervall training,.. you need to go to a highway or a regular street (no other place to do it). For mountain bikers... its even more frustrating.. cuz people get pissed of cuz they are riding on the streets trying to get to the trails.. and then some other ppl get pissed off cuz the bikers are riding on those trails (WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BIKE THEN?)
The thing that pisses me off is when im biking on whyte ave or whereever and ppl are getting pissed off just cuz there is a cyclist on the road.. if im on my road bike.... i usually pass all the cars and i keep up to traffic on whyte like nothing to it... yet ill still get the fingers cuz im a cyclist... eventho in that particular instance im no worse than an average car with an average driver just driving with the traffic flow.
I've tried riding on the sidewalk... THERE IS NO ROOM.... TOO MANY PPL WALKING AND COMPLAINING AT YOU.
I dont know how many people that are on this thread come to the meets on friday nights.. but for those that do.. please notice that if not the biking comynity.. we would not have an official place to meet up at. |
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| prophetes1 |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
When I rode alot, what I would do is pull up next tot he cars, but a little around the corner, like a few feet, more where a pedestrian would stand... so I'm not inches away from a car. then based on the road on the other side of the intersection, if it was a tight road without a parking lane I would go slow, let all the cars that passed me once, pass me again before I cross the road(hugging the cross walk lanes, so I'm not in their way).
You know not side way back in traffic and not make the light, but not piss off the guys that already managed to pass me.
Dude.. just stay in the traffic.. why go up to the lights? the ppl that passed you once already are gonna get pissed off that they have to pass you again.. they dont know what you are doing and most of them dont like to be beside a cyclist cuz what if he loses his balance.. also... if some1 is making a right hand turn and you are beside him.. he might get confused about what you are doing. |
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| Jojdm |
how bout they do everyone a favor and go on the sidewalk.
idont care if they get a ticket, its better than getting run over. |
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| dance_of_curse |
| ive gotten a ticket for riding a bike on whyte ave sidewalk..it was $30... the only time ive seen a cop ever do that...must have been bored. |
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| little_one_der |
| ^^^ Okay, but that is understandable. Whyte ave is a pretty popular pedestrian zone, and alot of drivers only go 30 kph because it's not possible to go any faster. And in that instance, I would expect a cyclist to be on the road. Just not say, northbound on 99 st just after the whitemud..... |
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| dance_of_curse |
| its the only place in the city where its illegal to ride on the sidewalk. from 109th to 99th....everywhere else cyclists can ride on sidewalks:dunno: thats what the cop told me when i got the ticket...if only more people knew:) |
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| Jojdm |
I think everyone will agree that their life is more than $30...... well maybe not for the crackers.
Fuck it I will continue to bike with training wheels on the sidewalk,
and yell " FUCK THA PO.....LICE" -NWA |
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| little_one_der |
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Originally posted by dance_of_curse
its the only place in the city where its illegal to ride on the sidewalk. from 109th to 99th....everywhere else cyclists can ride on sidewalks:dunno: thats what the cop told me when i got the ticket...if only more people knew:)
Holy cow, are you serious? For sure, that kind of information should be distributed. That's crazy! |
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| dance_of_curse |
| thats what they said and i think some where on jasper ave also.:dunno: next time you see police on whyte ask them? |
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| dance_of_curse |
| oh and another little law in order to be legal in riding on the road they have to have helmets and lights for the night. but thats kinda just common sense..unless you were a bmxer like me..i didnt even have brakes.:lol: |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by dance_of_curse
oh and another little law in order to be legal in riding on the road they have to have helmets and lights for the night. but thats kinda just common sense..unless you were a bmxer like me..i didnt even have brakes.:lol:
I think it's only law to have a helmet if you're under 18...
night riding yes you have to have lights.. I rode past a couple bike cops once, I had a helmet, and only a tail light. They didn't do anything.. mind you only one of the cops had a head light too :P
I dunno bout the sidewalk law if it's only in place on whyte... that would be a bylaw then.... |
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| dance_of_curse |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
I think it's only law to have a helmet if you're under 18...
night riding yes you have to have lights.. I rode past a couple bike cops once, I had a helmet, and only a tail light. They didn't do anything.. mind you only one of the cops had a head light too :P
I dunno bout the sidewalk law if it's only in place on whyte... that would be a bylaw then....
yes. but if you want to ride on the roads...you any age has to have a helmet. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by dance_of_curse
yes. but if you want to ride on the roads...you any age has to have a helmet.
Is that an alberta law, or Edmonton law? I have and wear a helmet, the wife has one too, but never wears it. |
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| HEWSINATOR |
| I have said this 100 times, but you want me to got 35-70 km/h on the sidewalk with your wife and kids there? That sounds safe for everybody. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by HEWSINATOR
I have said this 100 times, but you want me to got 35-70 km/h on the sidewalk with your wife and kids there? That sounds safe for everybody.
I almost smoked some old lady coming out of a bank once on 118ave when I was 14.. I was doing a fair clip, managed to swirve just enough, I said sorry as I went by.. she stood there stunned for a good minute or two...
So it's more then possible. It's a two way street, cyclist are looking for peds while riding on sidewalks, but peds aren't watching for cyclists.. they just aren't expecting them |
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| little_one_der |
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Originally posted by HEWSINATOR
I have said this 100 times, but you want me to got 35-70 km/h on the sidewalk with your wife and kids there? That sounds safe for everybody.
Go to the drag strip. If you can get to 70 km/h then I will believe you. If not, then STFU! |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by little_one_der
Go to the drag strip. If you can get to 70 km/h then I will believe you. If not, then STFU!
Depends on the bike, I used to hit 70-80km/h down a hill :P
I used to be able to average 50-60km/h on a straight flat stretch of road, on a mountain bike.... so on a street bike designed for going fast...
Now I saw used to, If I really tried now I might be able to hit 50-60km/h just wouldn't be able to maintain it, I'm older and out of shape.
Shoot there are runners who can maintain 37km/h... so it's not so far fetched. |
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