| I'm a noob, Help. Looking to buy first car. - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Tiotsi |
Pretty much the subject title explains it all...
Most of my buddies are all into cars, and since I've been paying more attention recently to the on going growth of automotives I really want to understand cars more... mostly as a hobby though, so far.
I need a car for starters... I was hoping someone could help out with this... I don't know much about cars and I was hoping if someone knew what a decent car around 2.5g to 4g that is worth buying out there. Obviously with my price range at the time, nothing too good? I just need a car that could be a bit moded.. (as in an intake, exhaust/tip? I dunno what else) and isn't a piece of crap that people will just stare down in disgust. After a year or so I would probably switch cars and upgrade to a better one.
I'd appreciate any help on this... I really want to get more involved with cars and learn some tricks and tips about them.
I know I must sound like a total dumba$$ for not knowing much... everyone starts somewhere? Well anywho.. yeah I'd appreciate some help.
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| EK9Hatch |
1st off I would like to say thanks for giving a pretty detailed post on what you are looking for. You will noticed that when you do this, you will get a lot more serious replies, than if you post something thats not specific.
If I had $2,500-$4,000 I would probably recommend a Honda Civic or a Eagle Talon. Obviously everyone has their own opinion on what a good car would be, this is just my opinion.
Both of the above cars are pretty easy to work on, good on gas, reliable and can be modded very easily.
Good luck on your car purchase! :)
Jamie |
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| 95IntegraRS |
| Hehe, you just called a Talon reliable... :D |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by 95IntegraRS
Hehe, you just called a Talon reliable... :D
Yup :) If you dont try to boost the hell out of them, they can be very reliable. Ever noticed how many old Talons are still on the roads? I think they are pretty good starter cars.
Jamie |
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| Tiotsi |
Thanks for the fast reply! wow.
Well, I've herd from my more experienced car buddies... that talons are not that good of car, exept the TSI which is definetly not in my price range. I still like the look of a talon anywho. I was just wondering why do people not like Talons? or Civics? Hondas for that matter... is it because people usually bag them?
I like Civics and Talons.. i just dont understand why almost all my buddies don't. |
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| 95IntegraRS |
I don't mind Civics or Talons.
Talon's are more labour intensive because turbo cars usually depend a little bit more upon the maintenance side of things in order to run properly and enjoy engine longevity.
Civics are also fun cars, because of the aftermarket. If you drop in a B18B out of an Integra, a very accesible swap, and do some suspension mods, it makes for very fun street car. It might even be within your price range to buy it and mod it.
Just look around, find something you like, go with it. My brother has a crapwagon AE92 4 door Corolla but it goes like snot with the 20V swap and he loves it. |
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| Tiotsi |
Oh... I see.
Well, If were talking about a swap, how much would that be?
and where could i get my hands on a B18B?
I don't mind labour on a car, I always find it fun to work around a car. I have various friends who are aiming to be mechanics.. so I got plenty of help, one of them works at eurasia. They usually diss when I get around a car though, because I don't know much.. hah.
Thanks again for the fast reply. |
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| anschutz_93 |
there is nothing wrong with talons or civics but i would tend to think you would have more fun with a turbo car rather than a n/a. a 1G tsi can be picked up for 4g and if you luck out you may even find an awd for that price in decent shape. but there are also lots of other turbo cars you can pick up cheap such as a lebaron or daytona etc. which you could find out how addictive boost is and not break the bank :D
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I dunno what else) and isn't a piece of crap that people will just stare down in disgust.
Personally i would respect you more in a rusty lebaron turbo pushing 20psi than a civic or cavi with "intake, exhaust/tip" a stock turbo car is much much easier to get large hp gains than a n/a. generally 1psi=10hp give or take a couple so on a completely stock setup and a mbc you can most likely get 40-60hp gains out of any turbo car. to get this level of gains on a n/a car would take a considerable amount of work much more extensive than intake and exhaust :thumbup: |
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| Ayeso |
My car is a good start car, and it just happens to be for sale,
B18a1, 89 civic, 0 rust, 4500 ;) |
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| Tiotsi |
I see, well that actually cleared up some stuff. I love turbo cars, but since I've mention on the subject title.. I'm a noob, no other way about it. I had no idea that i could get a turbo car pushing into the $4000 dollar mark.
What I had thought of before though... Is possibly getting a Civic or Talon putting a decent Intake.. tip.. driving it for a couple of months not totally bagging it. Then selling it + jobs pay i should be able to upgrade and get me a better car, better than a lebaron or daytona.
Thanks for your help though,
I'll probably have abit more debating to do...
I'd love to find a TSI for 4g... Just I've looked but most of them (not bagged the hell out of) are around 8g-10g. I don't have that kind of money at the momment. Just 2.5g to 4g MAX. :(
Thanks above all.. I appreciate every tip/help I get. |
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| Altezza |
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Originally posted by Ayeso
My car is a good start car, and it just happens to be for sale,
B18a1, 89 civic, 0 rust, 4500 ;)
thats a good deal :thumbup: |
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| Tiotsi |
I know... but as it is.
I'm still working towards the 4g. 4500 is pushing it wayy to much.
Eventhought it's a great deal... I appreciate it, I just don't have the cash for that yet. If it doesn't sell in a month n a half or so then possibly a yes.
Thanks for the offer though! |
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| EK9Hatch |
The best thing you can do is just look around and when you see something that interests you, do some research on th car and find out th pros and cons of it.
The internet is a great source of information when it comes to cars. The more you read, the more you will understand and gain knowledge.
Jamie |
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| Spoonin |
| best choice in my opinion would be a NA FC Rx-7.....they can be had for cheap and they are NA so they last forever plus they are RWD |
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| Dublin_19 |
half the talons ive seen get bagged the shit outta... half the kids that own a talon esi thinks their the ultimate cars and kids think their fast but they arent but all they end up doing is bag the shit outta them and go really slow in my books i dont like esi so much.
In my books you could get a nice golf for that price they look great good on gas usually pretty reliable and look like the shit when lowered and have a good selection for aftermarket(neuspeed parts are the shit)
P.S then you get the great german engineering! |
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| chris f |
| a neon??? 2.4l swap, t3-t4 turbo=12.7 in the 1/4 |
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| WorkInProgress |
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Originally posted by chris f
a neon??? 2.4l swap, t3-t4 turbo=12.7 in the 1/4
Now that's a realistic suggestion |
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| Tiotsi |
I'd like to know how thats within my price range?
2.5g to 4g? ...
sure I could get the neon... then work towards the swap
and buy the turbo later in the month.
Also... whatever other parts I'll need for the swap, mounts... etc.
I doubt i have anywhere near the money to do the swap, into a neon. |
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| chris f |
what you need id a 1st gen neon, 96 to 99 thats a DOHC. then you get a 2.4 out of a Strates or pt cruser. Adam is the one with the best memory on whats intallid. look here
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=12557 |
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| 5-second-rule |
| what about a deacent 240 |
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| drewb |
MR2 (AW11)
240 sx
rx-7 (naturally aspriated)
ae86
or if you don't mind fwd:
crx
celica
prelude |
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| Silence* |
| Personaly I started out with a Bmw e30 (1984 - 1991 3 Series). I know it's a Bmw, but it was cheap, reliable, easy and inexpensive to work on. Plus, it's RWD & It's a fricken' BMW!!! |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by Silence*
Personaly I started out with a Bmw e30 (1984 - 1991 3 Series). I know it's a Bmw, but it was cheap, reliable, easy and inexpensive to work on. Plus, it's RWD & It's a fricken' BMW!!!
I'm not too familiar with the older BMW's, but I know never ones (same goes for Mercedes) are differently not cheap to maintain.
Jamie |
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| Tiotsi |
Neither do i... I've herd that older BMW's and Mercedes are hard parts to come along if something breaks on it. Also older ones don't look too nice, no offence. Don't make me go buy a BMW and have it break down on me then make it impossible for me to fix, since I'm a noob! sneaky bastard! hah.
I still need to find a decent nice looking car... I'm gonna go to Michelin Allans auction... :dunno: |
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| Silence* |
| Meh... To each unto his own. I may be baised cause I work at a BMW dealership. Some of the mechanics there have e30's and love them caus eof how reliable they are. Of course they are well maintained, and well cared for - But I've seen a few e30's with over 300,000 Km's on the on their original running gear! |
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| Tiotsi |
Agreed, I've seen afew too and I was just kidding about the parts and stuff one of my friends works at eurasia, I could get hooked up some parts. I just don't find it that amusing to the get an older BMW... First vehicle... i wanna be able to race it abit.
Looking into getting a civic and having an engine swap possibly, putting a turbo in it and some mods. Not sure.
Still need advice.. |
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| Silence* |
| I love how many options for engine swaps e30's have. But we don't need to get into that. I'd look into 240's or RX7's if your planing a engine swap. |
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| Stainless |
| I'd have to say that for your price range, even a FB RX-7 would be a good choice. If you can find a nice GSL-SE, it's a great little car, and always leaves you open for the uber Turbo 2 swap. |
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| Tiotsi |
Well.. My friend is getting a 240 not sure if i wanna get the same
car. Eventhough it would be a good candidate for an engine swap... don't know what good engines fit in it though.
As for the FB RX-7 I like they way they look and an option for a turbo is always great.. problem is i'm not sure where or how i could find one and if it is even worth buying with the milage it's probably going to have. |
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| Silence* |
Look on here. I think theres a few for sale...
Before I bought my Bmw, I was thinking a 2nd gen Ford Porbe would be cool to tune and turbo as well.. |
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| Dublin_19 |
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Originally posted by Silence*
Look on here. I think theres a few for sale...
Before I bought my Bmw, I was thinking a 2nd gen Ford Porbe would be cool to tune and turbo as well..
agreed i was looking at a probe for my first car they are ok
but id rather have a mustang... you could probably pick up a older 4gen mustang gt for that price check it out at the mitch auction while your there usually lots there and usually cheap... then you get the joy of rwd |
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| Altezza |
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Originally posted by Tiotsi
As for the FB RX-7 I like they way they look and an option for a TURBO is always great.
Ok turbo key word here. So you add a turbo onto a rotaty engine i hope you have enough savings. So that you can replace parts aka apex seals. Well thats if you drive responsibly and not revving the shit out of it but who are we kidding. That will happen when you have a turbo. Turbos as addictive and it makes you want to rev the shit out of it. So thus meaning dont boost a RX-7 if you dont have the money to replace parts :thumbup: . |
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| Altezza |
| 92-95 EG civic would be a good choice cheap easy to repair and many options down the road to make more power. |
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| 5-second-rule |
| for the 240 sr20det redtops are the most common and probably the easiest followed byt the blacktop then if you want more torque but less available parts go the rb road ie. rb20,25,26, most likely a 20 though |
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| gtaylor |
possibly a mk3 jetta/golf
you might be able ot find a decent mk2 thats had some work done to it, but theyre pretty old
an mk3 would be a good bet tho:thumbup: |
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| Spoonin |
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Originally posted by Altezza
Ok turbo key word here. So you add a turbo onto a rotaty engine i hope you have enough savings. So that you can replace parts aka apex seals. Well thats if you drive responsibly and not revving the shit out of it but who are we kidding. That will happen when you have a turbo. Turbos as addictive and it makes you want to rev the shit out of it. So thus meaning dont boost a RX-7 if you dont have the money to replace parts :thumbup: .
yes this is true than u will just get fed up with the rotarys bull shit and sell everything haha |
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| anschutz_93 |
| im too lazy to find the link but there is actually a chev sprint turbo for sale on this site for 900 bucks comes with a whole bunch of parts (another engine tranny ect) that would be a great car to learn about how things work... if you blow it up who cars you got a spare engine anyway. to top off this steal of a deal the car is fwd FTW you will experiance all the joys and excitment of torque steer especially with race spec skinny tires. (for any of you who havent had the pleasure of driving one of these cars a 10psi boost when you floor it you change approximatly 2 lanes to your left and/or right) |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by anschutz_93
im too lazy to find the link but there is actually a chev sprint turbo for sale on this site for 900 bucks comes with a whole bunch of parts (another engine tranny ect) that would be a great car to learn about how things work... if you blow it up who cars you got a spare engine anyway. to top off this steal of a deal the car is fwd FTW you will experiance all the joys and excitment of torque steer especially with race spec skinny tires. (for any of you who havent had the pleasure of driving one of these cars a 10psi boost when you floor it you change approximatly 2 lanes to your left and/or right)
The link is right here
Only downer, is it needs a exhaust manifold and a turbo.
Jamie |
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| lowslowcorrado |
Here you go, $2k for jetta, 2k for wheels, tires and suspension. 13 dollars for wax.
Not super fast, but fun to drive, handles well and looks cool.
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| s2k |
| definately an AE86. THey are fucking fun |
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| Dublin_19 |
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Originally posted by lowslowcorrado
Here you go, $2k for jetta, 2k for wheels, tires and suspension. 13 dollars for wax.
Not super fast, but fun to drive, handles well and looks cool.
that was my first car... i loved that thing i bought it, lowered it, rimmed it, CAI and catbacked it,subbed it...crashed it!... would still own it today if it wasnt involved in a crash :O
p.s this was all done for under 6.5k and it was a 97 with 150k on it and it ran great!
Now i totally beleive in German Engineering FTW |
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