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Smart educated girls who do nothing but sit around waiting for a husband... - Click HERE for Original Thread

REFLUX
Read an interesting topic off Honda-Tech, thought I'd post it up here and get some thoughts on it:

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Scenario....
Girl graduates college, smart as hell, could get any number of decent-paying jobs (for a recent grad), not materialistic or any of that bullshit, BUT pretty much refuses to enter the "career" world b/c she "wants to have babies".


She's not looking for a guy to buy her an Audi and a $1500 purse.... she just wants to meet a man who will marry her and "take care of her" so that she doesn't need to have a career (maybe just a bs job until she has babies and quits working for good)....

Meanwhile she is SINGLE. She basically refuses to take any sort of "plunge" into the career world, w/ the rationale that if she's always working, she'll never be able to meet said man.

Is there something wrong w/ this? Have times changed? This is pretty much exactly the way things were all the way up until the 50s, right?

With all this "independent women" shit these days, is it still okay for a girl to basically do nothing career-wise, despite having the brains and education to do almost anything?

Isn't it just a little presumptuous of them to just believe that they'll find that perfect guy within the next year or two, and he'll take care of her forever, meanwhile people are getting married later in life than ever before, and there are record numbers of single, unmarried 30somethings out there? Getting married at a young age and being happy is CERTAINLY not a given anymore... Isn't it a little stupid to not look after yourself until you DO get married?

I would have NO problem if I married a girl and she decided she didn't want to work after we had a kid. NO problem. But I'd be a little turned off if I met a girl, say she was like 27 or 28, who says that the only reason she didn't go the corporate/career route is because she's been looking for a guy to take care of her for the past 5 or 6 years since college....

This isn't my gf we're talking about here, or a girl I've ever even wanted anything other than friendship with... She graduated from the best public college in all of NY w/ a perfect 4.0, KILLED the GREs, and now she works as a secretary, bored out of her mind all day, making like $30k/yr... And the reason she gives for not applying to an ivy league grad school, or testing her skills in the corporate world, is simply that she doesn't want anything more out of life other than raising kids, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME, other than the fact that she is SINGLE!

What are your thoughts? She's obviously an old fashioned girl in a new world... But is it really in her best interests to be bored to tears all day long in a dead end job, just b/c she MIGHT have a better chance of meeting this "guy of her dreams"?

Just tryin to help out a friend here. Thanks.


STiPWR
Alot of guys out there are intimidated by a girl who are smarter/makes more money than them.

Im personally not one of those guys, but I can understand where she is coming from.

fugumerkur
Keep buying your kids Barbies.... They play for hours on end planning weddings and little parties, its sickening,
I have seen it personally,
Middle child with an older sister and a younger sister.
My older sister has an excellent education and is a stay at home mom. My younger sister is probably just going to get married and have kids... its fucked, nothing against them, its their choices but I understand the concept, while I was crashing hotwheels my older sister was playing with barbies. (though I would steal the pink corvette and crash the shit out of that, 18 carpeted stairs and barbie and ken in the car.! Fuck do i wish that stuff was video taped.!

on a side note, with the power of the female anatomy and the emphasis on sex in todays media don't you think that the bargaining tools a female has since the day she is born and shaped by every experience in here life by media relationship experiences and how easily attention can be put at her feet is it no wonder that so many women can get away with doing nothing because of cultural tendencies.......:blink:
How many young women out there are single mothers because this has back fired on them. I know too many people that have been caught in this trap of pregnancy means financial security for 18 years..... its rediculous and nothing more than a condom can protect men from this trap.

Barbies and baby dolls should be illegal. Give children more Doctor playsets and more plastic tools to build stuff, it would make a world of difference in the next 20-40 years.

ehrgeiz
Her mentality disgusts me. Terrible game plan on life, then again I'm about as anti-baby as can be. So much so I left a girl solely because she said wouldn't have an abortion if she got pregnant.

I actually feel sick when I see that like 3 out of 5 21-25 year old girls are having or have had a baby, always end up being single too. Not to mention the kids are usually ill-mannered puke face brats... blah anyway back on track.

I think she should start setting some real goals for her life and not look for the easy road to get knocked up while her man pays for everything (willingly or through child support) and she gets to clean house and watch day time television while she waits out the clock on the rest of her useless existence.

240sex
thats just messed up, waste of money/time and depending on the field she went into obviously she toke someones spot who really wanted to be there and who deserved to be there, someone who probably worked his ass off to get there.

That being said if i was that person and found out she just wants to get knocked up i would fucking go nuts, get her drunk screw her then go on with life.

midnite
The lack of ambition if a turn off, no wonder she may be single. She should be doing what she loves, no matter if she is single or not. Focus on yourself first! You have to love yourself and your life before others will be able to love it (you)..

If she is passionate about her life and what she wants to do, guys would be all over her.

At least thats the way I see it.

REFLUX
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Originally posted by midnite
If she is passionate about her life and what she wants to do, guys would be all over her.

At least thats the way I see it.



Completely agree.
A beautiful, intelligent woman with no drive/motivation for life....is a huge disappointment.

One of the very prominent areas where a beautiful mind > a beautiful body.

euro777
i personally only date girls who have a dimension of career aspiration, this just seems backwards.

some dude is going to fly a little close to this venus fly trap, lets just hope he is willing to take a backseat to her plans- just like her career, years of eduaction and wasted potential.
The wierdest part is i generally believe that educated women are less likely to want to start pumping out babies and clean up puke all day long simply because they worked so hard to become educated. (one main reason why i am attracted to girls with post secondary)
i got my own education, good job blah blah blah, but i still would not be interested in a woman who doesnt have some momentum of her own, and i think it is even more horrible to have an education and waste it, than just being plain old dumb and useless.

i have seen a good friend wind up with a g/f who unconditionally want kids, and this is without really having the foundation for a strong family (like a career or house etc) this ends up looking like they dont even care about the guy or relationship, just the kids.

JustinL
My g/f is going to make way more than me when she finishes med school. I'm cool with that :)

I think it's very attractive when girls have career aspirations and the ability to go after what they want.

ae1969
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Originally posted by JustinL
My g/f is going to make way more than me when she finishes med school. I'm cool with that :)

I think it's very attractive when girls have career aspirations and the ability to go after what they want.



I think you should close that deal.

:D

iLLlegal
I don't know about you guys but I would have no problem having a nice sugar mama and letting me stay home with the kids. hell all the business ideas ive had so far consist of running it solely on the internet so I could still be working.

plus I could like teach my kids cool shit like working on cars and building forts.

as others have said I like a girl with intelligence and drive to succeed in life, like ditsy do nothing hot chicks are nice for a one night stand but a girl that makes me think and suprises me i think is HOT

Prudz_lude
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Originally posted by iLLlegal
I don't know about you guys but I would have no problem having a nice sugar mama and letting me stay home with the kids. hell all the business ideas ive had so far consist of running it solely on the internet so I could still be working.

plus I could like teach my kids cool shit like working on cars and building forts.

as others have said I like a girl with intelligence and drive to succeed in life, like ditsy do nothing hot chicks are nice for a one night stand but a girl that makes me think and suprises me i think is HOT



you have it backwards. she doesnt want to work

ehos
People in Capitalistic countries have no 'lives', or decisions unless they are driven by money, career, wealth or 'ambition.'

I think it's great if a woman wants to not work and let her man pay for it all. KUDOS! That's REAL living. Not grinding out your life paying for shit you don't need, impressing people who don't care.

If you're wife is at home, don't feel bad. She's enjoying her life looking after the kids. Let her be, at least one of you is happy. Go to work and grind it out.

Pat yourself on the back for the 'ambition' you have, and the money you're making. It's noble work you're doing. Don't hold a grudge.

ae1969
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
People in Capitalistic countries have no 'lives', or decisions unless they are driven by money, career, wealth or 'ambition.'

I think it's great if a woman wants to not work and let her man pay for it all. KUDOS! That's REAL living. Not grinding out your life paying for shit you don't need, impressing people who don't care.

If you're wife is at home, don't feel bad. She's enjoying her life looking after the kids. Let her be, at least one of you is happy. Go to work and grind it out.

Pat yourself on the back for the 'ambition' you have, and the money you're making. It's noble work you're doing. Don't hold a grudge.



I agree.

The assumption we make is that the path we have chosen is the correct one.....

tokes
quote:
Originally posted by JustinL
My g/f is going to make way more than me when she finishes med school. I'm cool with that :)


Same here. I'm just going to be a lowly engineer, but if she can make twice as much as I do, more power to her. Just means I get to live in a bigger house, and have more money for my toys :thumbup:

95EagleAWD
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
People in Capitalistic countries have no 'lives', or decisions unless they are driven by money, career, wealth or 'ambition.'



That's a pretty big assumption.

I'm sure as hell not joining the Army for the money or wealth.

Career, who knows and ambition maybe a little.

To say that money is only useful in "Capitalistic" countries need only look at the hording of cash in the Soviet Union by the elite and nowadays in Communist China to see that money and wealth is far more than a "capitalistic" attitude.

ehos
quote:
Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
That's a pretty big assumption.

I'm sure as hell not joining the Army for the money or wealth.

Career, who knows and ambition maybe a little.

To say that money is only useful in "Capitalistic" countries need only look at the hording of cash in the Soviet Union by the elite and nowadays in Communist China to see that money and wealth is far more than a "capitalistic" attitude.



Of course it's a huge assumption. But unless you have lived out of the 'money' driven system (loosely termed Capitalism, don't want to use any of the more aggressive terms for it), you would not understand how prevelant money is in our society.

It drives 90% of your daily decisions (working age, living on their own etc). You need to get out, hustle to pay for your place that you live in, your food, everything.

People that have been in that system for long enough, forget the grind that they are in. It's ingrained into people from an early age to 'work', to have ambition, to develop your career. Buy that house, get that car etc etc.

Unless you've lived OUT of this system, it's impossible to see all the constraints that people live IN this system.

I live in this system, but I still see all the delusions and constraints in it (some I like obviously). Maybe you're joining the army to get away from some of these constraints? (Food, roof, career all taken care of? Seems very appealing actually). (Big Assumption).

MAPEX
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Originally posted by REFLUX
Read an interesting topic off Honda-Tech, thought I'd post it up here and get some thoughts on it:



it doesnt mean that if she got a degree shes smart , she just smart for what she studied... the real smart girls knows everything..




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