| question about HKS bolw off valve - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| gjgud |
i'm using it with my S/C, and it is not working because it is dual stage my kit is making about 5psi will be 8psi by next summer now since HKS is not working with my set up because it is dual stage i'm using turbo xs type H right now can someone here
tell me how i can get my Super Sequential Blow off Valve work in my car? |
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| crazyrx7 |
I don't understand what your saying? A blow off valve is a blow off valve. Your HKS one will work with any forced induction system. It doesn't matter on the boost. If your saying that it doesn't work because you can't hear it, it might be the fact that you are running 5psi of boost which is nothing. Turning up the boost to 8psi you will be able to hear it more.
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| gjgud |
ok i will expliane what is going on i found this guy in states to build my kit with HKS blow off valve because i like the sound of it
after week he told me that HKS in not working because that it is dual stage (i'm not really car guy so dont even know what that means )anyway so he had to use single stage which why he put
turbo xs type H and he also told me that HKS will not work with
supercharger and will only work with turbo i will still receive my HKS as well so if i can get it work some how that would be nice..
of any of you guys can tell what the problem is by reading this thred...
PS the supercharger that i'm usong is off c230 but will be located like turbo like belt dirven eaton m45 -> intercooler-> intake |
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| Nissan Fanboy |
"dual stage"? Not sure what you mean there...
LOL... the difference between a SSQV and the TurboXS is that the HKS is a push-pull and the TurboXS is a piston-type.
With the HKS you don't need to adjust anything. You just hook up a vac line and you are good to go. The more boost you are making the tighter it will push-itself closed (the HKS still has a spring to keep it closed under negative vac).
In comparison the TurboXS has just a spring to keep it closed during positive vac. If there were no spring it would just be flapping around. |
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| aarrgghh |
| Sounds like it could be like the APS valve, it has two exit ports. The first opens at a slightly lower spring pressure and the port is normally plumbed as recirculated (back to the intake) and the second opens slightly higher as a dump to atmosphere. |
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| gjgud |
| so are you guys saying that it is still working even if it is not making any sound? |
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| TypboPwr |
| i have an hks bov and it depends how much boost you are running to actually get the full sound of the blow off. If you dont boost alot and let it blow off it wont be as loud as it would be in a higher boost car. |
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| b18c5crx |
| my ssqv did not open for anything under 5 lbs |
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| SLick STi |
| Well ... more air louder it gets . And it also depends if you go high RPM |
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| DomesticDrifter |
what type of supercharger is on your car? it may not require a bov. I know the roots style blower on my cobalt doesn't need a bov because it has a boost bypass valve integrated into the unit that allows air to bypass the rotors. you won't need a bov unless you have a centrifugal supercharger, and like the other guys said, you're not going to hear shit unless you're pushing more then 5 psi out of it.
on a side note because you don't know much about how superchargers work based on the 4 threads you have going right now, the only way you're going to increase boost on the supercharger is by putting a smaller pully on it. the smaller the diameter the faster it will spin creating more boost and it will also lean out the air/fuel ratio. i hope you're not hoping for huge hp numbers because you're better off buying a car with more aftermarket support, because as it stands right now you're going to probably need larger injectors and a custom tune to say the least.
have fun, don't blow up your engine. |
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| gjgud |
as you can see here i'm using roots type but not in roots?? anyway.. i'm not going to drive my car untill next summer or spring till then will upgrade infector,pump,and low compression head gaskeet SAFC we will see how it goes.i'm into putting half size aluminum rad now |
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| DomesticDrifter |
not to flame you or anything but you should do a little more homework before you're bolting on parts to your car, espically parts that can make your engine go boom.
here is a diagram of how a eaton roots style blower works. as you can see the air can flow around the rotors within the unit istself. so bascially get rid of the bov you have on your car. you don't want any air that has already been measured leaving to the atmosphere otherwise your car will run like crap.
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| gjgud |
| if you look at my set up i do need BOV... or bypass |
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| Beerking |
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Originally posted by gjgud
as you can see here i'm using roots type but not in roots?? anyway.. i'm not going to drive my car untill next summer or spring till then will upgrade infector,pump,and low compression head gaskeet SAFC we will see how it goes.i'm into putting half size aluminum rad now
I dont know much about superchargers, but that setup doesn't need a BOV, looks weird to me?!?! |
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| gjgud |
| Oh piping still need to be done with intercooler.. |
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| ChromeDragon |
Uhhh yeah, I was going to say it's not working because your supercharger isn't hooked up to jack shit. Am I crazy, or does it look like this to everyone else too?:blink:
You only have a filter running to your intake, the supercharger isn't feeding into the engine at all from what I can see.
Is this some sort of strange joke? |
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| gjgud |
| finally one smart one here hahaha it has been tought to fit that S/C in it and plus i know that it is roots style but there is adapter plate that will push air into intercooler then to intake so i do need BOV or bypass.. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| That may be so eventually, but at the moment it won't be blowing off because there is never anything stopping the air from going through. Is it actually just compressing the air and shooting it down at your exhaust or what?:dunno: |
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| Mobius |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
That may be so eventually, but at the moment it won't be blowing off because there is never anything stopping the air from going through. Is it actually just compressing the air and shooting it down at your exhaust or what?:dunno:
Don't worry, I think almost everyone who has read this thread is as confused as you are. I'm not even sure what the question was, if there was one? |
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| Bdice |
| i think your set up is all wrong :dunno: |
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| Bdice |
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Originally posted by Bdice
i have m 90 on my corrado and may set up is not like that the filter goes to the intake of commpresor and boost to intercooler then to the intake manofold. now put your blow off to the pipe that goes to the intake manofold that will picks your problem
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| T-LAV MRV |
if that is an APEX car of past, then holy hell wtf went wrong there. did u buy the car like that, or have them do the work?.
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| Flip |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Uhhh yeah, I was going to say it's not working because your supercharger isn't hooked up to jack shit. Am I crazy, or does it look like this to everyone else too?:blink:
You only have a filter running to your intake, the supercharger isn't feeding into the engine at all from what I can see.
Is this some sort of strange joke?
From the terrible grammar, the vague question, to ridiculous picture, I'm not convinced this isn't a joke. |
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| Beerking |
| I thought that shit looked weird, are you trying to combine a supercharger with a turbo, sc do not get slapped onto your exhaust and you only have a short ram intake, wheres the boost running to, to cool down your hot engine from working so hard to to turn the turbine and then have no gain after the thought, WTF:dunno: |
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| gjgud |
| read the post it is not hook up yet and it is not connected to exhaust... |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
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Originally posted by gjgud
read the post it is not hook up yet ..
Then how the hell do you expect the BOV to be working? |
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| gjgud |
| this thred started as BOV problem but some how went into my S/C set up and BOV has been fixed... |
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| Beerking |
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Originally posted by gjgud
this thred started as BOV problem but some how went into my S/C set up and BOV has been fixed...
How can it be fixed if you dont even have your sc setup correctly?:smack: |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
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Originally posted by gjgud
BOV has been fixed...
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| gjgud |
guys, you guys should not say shit unless you do not fully understand what the hell is going on... my guess is if you are that great with modifying a car. this pic should answer everything remember this is fully custom job...
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| Xtra_X |
| =/= |
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| Beerking |
| are those even the same cars? |
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| gjgud |
| he sold his kit to me... and now i'm trying to adjust little thing around to be batter kit i should say |
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| Xtra_X |
| gjgud you are the most confusing peron ever. |
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| Beerking |
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Originally posted by gjgud
he sold his kit to me...
why? b/c it blew up his engine...you should try DEI, Ive heard good things about it!:thumbup: |
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| gjgud |
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Originally posted by Beerking
why? b/c it blew up his engine...
hay man please don;t guess and say shit...
plus what would you say if there is like 5 other people that i know with same kit??? and running fine |
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| Beerking |
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Originally posted by gjgud
hay man please don;t guess and say shit...
plus what would you say if there is like 5 other people that i know with same kit??? and running fine
I would say your idiots and save your money for something worth tuning..you made me say it, you can only blame yourself! |
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| gjgud |
| you know what it is totally point less to you man and one more thing watch what comes out of your mouth some shit can get yourself hurt or killed..... now you made me say it... grow up don't come up with gay ass like "you made me say" shit |
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| Beerking |
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Originally posted by gjgud
you know what it is totally point less to you man and one more thing watch what comes out of your mouth some shit can get yourself hurt or killed..... now you made me say it... grow up don't come up with gay ass like "you made me say" shit
you should grow up first, with your grammar you only make me laugh at your posts |
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| Xtra_X |
quote:
Originally posted by gjgud
you know what it is totally point less to you man and one more thing watch what comes out of your mouth some shit can get yourself hurt or killed..... now you made me say it... grow up don't come up with gay ass like "you made me say" shit
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| Xtra_X |
| a picture says a thousand words, that one there says 37,000 |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
quote:
Originally posted by gjgud
guys, you guys should not say shit unless you do not fully understand what the hell is going on... my guess is if you are that great with modifying a car. this pic should answer everything remember this is fully custom job...
Can you explain to me how either of those show how you got the BOV to work, without the blower being hooked up to be able to get a positive pressure in the IC piping?:dunno: |
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| gjgud |
| those are picture from previous owner and now it is on mine.. i sold my camara so could not take more pic but now the kit is on my car and it works fine like i said... |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
quote:
Originally posted by gjgud
those are picture from previous owner and now it is on mine.. i sold my camara so could not take more pic but now the kit is on my car and it works fine like i said...
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| Beerking |
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Originally posted by gjgud
those are picture from previous owner and now it is on mine.. i sold my camara so could not take more pic but now the kit is on my car and it works fine like i said...
Whats that smell?!?!?!
oh man...it ...it smells like ......
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| gjgud |
i do not see the point of saying BS here it is my car it works fine
people have seen it whay would you say things like BS anyway
plus like i said trouble has been fixed so i do not need this thread anymore.. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
Who fixed it?
How did they fix it? |
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| crazyrx7 |
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Originally posted by gjgud
i do not see the point of saying BS here it is my car it works fine
people have seen it whay would you say things like BS anyway
plus like i said trouble has been fixed so i do not need this thread anymore..
How did you fix it?
R.K. |
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| Beerking |
I blewww in it, then it went psssttttt!!!!!!
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| jzz30tt |
| I've heard of the honda boys and the interfooler but this...? |
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| gjgud |
| i have put turbo xs BOV and took out HKS... |
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| T-LAV MRV |
how the hell does this work, its a exhaust gas puller?, that is driven off engine speed?
failz, what a waste of tuning and money.
and u changed a part that has nothing to do with the throttle body opening or closing because the "boost" will never see the TB, u are a retard.
mike |
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| Xtra_X |
quote:
Originally posted by gjgud
hay man please don;t guess and say shit...
plus what would you say if there is like 5 other people that i know with same kit??? and running fine
Proof? |
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| gjgud |
sorry for some of you. but fuck you all it is working out for me see you all the fucking haters or what ever next summer just shut the fuck up and come check my ride.. thats all... then we will see who is ratard and for ones saying shit it is not going to work out check this video my set up is very similar..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSCwhvof2BY |
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| gjgud |
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Originally posted by Xtra_X
Proof?
there is one |
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| Xtra_X |
| Sorry bud, that is a pretty bad video. I have to say if I put a custom supercharger on my accent (if I had one) and I was rather Internet savvy, I'd post a build of it with better photos than that. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not entirely doubting that you've done this. We just have a large lack in evidence. The photo's you've posted are obviously incomplete and nonfunctional in that state. So in order to appease us naysayers we need to see a more complete photo or build of this said custom supercharger system. |
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| gjgud |
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Originally posted by Xtra_X
Proof?
another one for you man
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| Xtra_X |
| see that is much better. Now does yours look like that? |
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| gjgud |
that's what i said before everying is done i got all the piping done
FMIC is installed good when i mean piping i mean i got every thing measured right cut tested all i have to do is get them painted... |
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| Xtra_X |
Now you see how a photo like this can confuse people (myself included)
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| gjgud |
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Originally posted by T-LAV MRV
how the hell does this work, its a exhaust gas puller?, that is driven off engine speed?
failz, what a waste of tuning and money.
and u changed a part that has nothing to do with the throttle body opening or closing because the "boost" will never see the TB, u are a retard.
mike
guys here is another fool talking shit look at the pic one more time it is driven by belt you fool and like i said i still have to put all the pipes back in to it... |
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| gjgud |
ok that's right but like at least yourself was not being fucking ass to other and others did
and i might have confused other people but that's what i have been saying whole time that i'm not done with piping.... |
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| Xtra_X |
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Originally posted by gjgud
ok that's right but like at least yourself was not being fucking ass to other and others did
and i might have confused other people but that's what i have been saying whole time that i'm not done with piping....
OK
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| Alberta_Daytona |
so its a supercharger with independant air inlets and compressor outlets? you can actually route a intercooler...
Its basically a really big hard to install procharger I guess.
Whatever works....
but posting a pic of a engine bay with a supercharger on the exhaust side and a short cold air intake is just asking for trouble..... |
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| gjgud |
finally half way done... still more work to do please don't get confused by that filter it is where my intake piping will be running
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| b18c5crx |
| why the fuck would you put a sc over an exhaust manifold.... |
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| Alberta_Daytona |
I could only guess its because there is no fucking room anywhere else.
I mean....really there is no room anywhere else for it....
I know what your saying...lets put lots of heat by a air compressor and expand that air why dont we lol. |
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| gjgud |
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Originally posted by b18c5crx
why the fuck would you put a sc over an exhaust manifold....
ok look at the pic and where the fuck would you have put in?? |
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| gjgud |
it sounds like that my BOV is leaking is that suppost happen? even when i'm at 1000K i can hear this BOV going SHO!!!!!
then with throttle it goes sho!!!!!(getting louder) i let go my throttle then POO SHO!!!! is this normal?? |
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| Mobius |
| You have a boost leak. I don't blame you, I think anything would leak at 1,000,000 RPM. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
| The HKS SSQV can't leak with the way it is designed. |
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| gjgud |
| nonono HKS has caused truble with me so i'm using turboSX one right now... and the way it looks because my S/C is running even with no throttle and blowing air into pipe that's why blow off vlve is open (i think) but once i get going i don't hear much thing untill i step off my gas padal... maybe leaking or not we will see... |
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