| 383 Stroker! - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Cheverz |
| So This shall be the new heart of the Camaro!! Gonna get a Turn key Crate blueprinted and such 450HP at 5000 for the entire set up And jsut gotta drop it in:D Gotta love V8's! P.S- Anyone ever have problems with these engines? |
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| jordanturbo |
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Originally posted by adrian64
boo domestics
wow never heard such great feedback before, no wonder I look to 780 for all my auto needs. :rolleyes:
back on topic, it might help knowing what engine are you picking up, isit a gm factory engine, edlbrock crate etc. I guess it doesn't really matter since I have never really heared anything negative about a 383 setup since they have been around forever and are usually pt together useing tried and true methods |
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| The Daver |
| I am gonna guess its not a gm performance parts crate cause they never came with a crate 383 till recently and it is for the 97 and newer trucks. (correct me if im wrong) |
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| EK9Hatch |
Where are you getting this from? Have you researched it enough?
Sounds interesting....what does something like that cost?
Jamie |
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| 70newport |
| i only know of one guy who ever used a 383 crate motor and he loved it and it had tons of power especially seeing as it was in a 32 ford. anyways i love my mopar 383's and i dont know what kind of stroke and bore the one your getting has but my guess is its a pretty safe bet. |
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| Cheverz |
| The 383 is being made by a small company called Factory Engine's based in the U.S, There's Tons of options however the entire set up on the high Hp model i want is 6000. But thats everything including water-pump ect. Only thing im worried about is my T-Top's Shaking outa place:p It should sound Insanely mean as well. Im hoping the A4 Transmission will hold its power it should as long as i dont sit there doing breakstands all day long and only really open it up when im on the highway tranny will need to be heavily massaged for racing though but its not an edelbrock but the set-up's Great and ill be ditching Fuel Injected TPI for a carb. But if all goes Smoothly the Camaro should Run and Sound like a beast! Not to mention it'll be an intresting combo for a 3rd gen. It's an Exact small-block Blue printed and No Its not a GM Crate they dont make the 383 they do there fast-Burn set up 350's still i beleave.It's a 4 bolt main,Steel Stroker by scat.Stress relieved rod's,10.3:1 Compression,800 Carb, Set-up Or as i like to call it heaven :D |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by Cheverz
Only thing im worried about is my T-Top's Shaking outa place:p
Hopefully you've installed a set of subframe connectors ;) |
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| AuZZZie |
| Didn't i see a thread with you looking for an import? Is that in addition to this build or scrapped that idea? |
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| Cheverz |
| still searching for the import i want but might go with the 78 vette instead but no this is just the Camaro's new Guts |
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| B-TownRep |
| Did you ever check out JB Power for drop in motors? I was seriously lookikng at the 502 BBC they sell but decided against it for fuel economy reasons in my DD truck lol. Sure would have been fun tho, maybe when im older (502 HP, 760 ft lbs tq). What was the old motor in your camaro? I have a 350 TBI in my truck now with light mods... nice to see some other american muscle on here. I'm a new guy BTW, and there are some fantastic cars on this site. Imports or V8's, if its fast i love em. |
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| Cheverz |
No i didnt look at those, And theres actualyl alot of nice cars on here and a few domestic's as well. The Camaro originally has a 305 TPI with 140K on it a little massaged but nothing special Camaro's mostly getting by on its other mod's for speed. I also had a 350 5.7L in this car and it was again only so-so i have a 327 in my 67 and a crate 454 in the 83 but This 383 Stroker Is a DEADLY monster man so i want this in my 86 these things just RAWR only thing im kinda sad about is Ditching Fuel injection for a carb but car doesnt go out in winter so oh well :) And with the CDN dollar so high its Become nicely cheap to Ship stuff up here :)quote:
Originally posted by B-TownRep
Did you ever check out JB Power for drop in motors? I was seriously lookikng at the 502 BBC they sell but decided against it for fuel economy reasons in my DD truck lol. Sure would have been fun tho, maybe when im older (502 HP, 760 ft lbs tq). What was the old motor in your camaro? I have a 350 TBI in my truck now with light mods... nice to see some other american muscle on here. I'm a new guy BTW, and there are some fantastic cars on this site. Imports or V8's, if its fast i love em.
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| B-TownRep |
| Yeah, i've heard carbs can be pretty tricky to get the A/F mix right as well. What did you have going on with the 350 when you had it? was the the motor that was just in it before the stroker? |
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| Cheverz |
| Strokers not in the car yet haha im not gonna touch it let GM do it , As well the 350 was just your Average Headers Pistons head ect.. Simple Little Beast i ended up not keeping it in the car over a month and Putting it in my Friends 1980 Chevy shortbox. The Camaro turned out so well after its resto i wanted the Orig engine in for my Appraisel value now im just Gonna Swap in the 383 soonish i hope and then get over to the dyno :) |
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| B-TownRep |
| Just average haha i wish. I want to do a cam and long tubes so bad, but i just have zero experience really, and i'm worried about tuning for the cam. i just want for now another 50 horses of so to play with in the top end. its a solid motor down low, but a little lacking up top as our probably know already. that sounds like a sick project though man, im jealous:bowdown: |
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| Cheverz |
| haha Yah the good thing is if you Screw up u can get a new Engine out of a Van ! Lol but beware of your cam choice if you plan on using the truck as a daily driver be wary of your choice it will NEVER run the same. But it's preety simple when you get into it there's TONS of room to work in easy to pull the engine out there just a wee bit heavier :P after that its preety much rip it a part and put new stuff in it then put it back in and give er a tune v8's are Great for HP and Torque on a cheap Budget just make sure you dont twist the frame!:thumbup: |
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| Cheverz |
| oh and i got a set of PRO-FLO Shorty headers and a new Y-pipe they were goin n my 305 probally will work on the 350? good for a little bit of HP Ill see if i need them for anything in the next month and get back to yah :) |
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| mikemike |
| what tranny do you have? 700r4? |
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| midnite |
| sounds like a sweet winter project :thumbup: |
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| B-TownRep |
| I don't know if the 700r4 came behind the 305... but i could be off my rocker. And that would be great, how hard is the install on the shorty's? And the gains over stock? I know the stock ones flow like trash. Sound improvements over stock? sorry for all the q's, my first vehicle that i'm doing some serious work to |
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| Cheverz |
The 205 came with the A4 which will easily handle 500HP and the Shorty's will probally gain i dont no 10hp or something there abit more expensive and took about 3 months to get there just nicer because they dont have to sit in the gunk and rot out :) But if i dont need em in the next month ill hook you up cause i think my brother might need them but if not there alll yourz. There's a couple things i should do with dropping so much torque into the car so im kinda doing it by feel right now. More or less i just want that stroker sound i could easily bump the 305 to 450+hp but Strokers are just ''droolz'' anywayz here's a picture of the engine a lil something to drool over :)  |
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| B-TownRep |
| :bowdown: :drool: |
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| Cheverz |
be happy to give you the Low down on everything in it if you wana read but for the Price its a way better investment then building one!:D
4 BOLT MAIN BLOCK
STEEL STROKER CRANK BY SCAT
SHOT PEENED STRESS RELIEVED CONNECTING
RODS, WITH 190,000 PSI ROD BOLTS
HYPEREUTECTIC PISTONS 10.3:1 COMPRESSION
SPEED PRO MOLY RINGS
EDELBROCK PERFORMER RPM
CAMSHAFT #7102
EDELBROCK DOUBLE ROLLER TIMING SET
HEAVY DUTY TRIMETAL ENGINE BEARINGS
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FEL-PRO GASKETS
EDELBROCK ALUMINUM CYLINDER HEADS WITH 64CC CHAMBERS
2.02" STAINLESS INTAKE VALVES
1.60" STAINLESS EXHAUST VALVES
HARD SEATS AND GUIDES FOR UNLEADED FUEL
SCREW IN ROCKER STUDS
1.46 VALVE SPRINGS HANDLE VALVE LIFTS TO .575
PUSHRODS, GUIDE PLATES, AND ROCKER ARMS
OIL PAN, TIMING COVER, AND CHROME VALVE COVERS
GM HARMONIC BALANCER DAMPER
FLEXPLATE FOR AUTO TRANS (STD TRANS FLYWHEEL EXTRA)
BALANCED, BLUEPRINTED, ASSEMBLED AND PAINTED
NEW HIGH PERFORMANCE INTAKE MANIFOLD # 7501 AIR GAP
NEW 4 BARREL CARBURETOR 800 CFM EDELBROCK
NEW BLUE PRINTED HEI DISTRIBUTOR WITH 53,000 VOLT COIL
NEW CHAMPION SPARK PLUGS & HEAVY DUTY IGNITION WIRES, ELECTRIC CHOKE ASSY
NEW THERMOSTAT CHROME HOUSING
NEW FUEL AND WATER PUMP
NEW FUEL LINES AND FUEL FILTER
NEW DIP STICK AND TUBE 5 QUARTS OF VALVOLINE OIL AND FILTER
NEW AIR CLEANER, COMPLETE P.C.V VENTILATION SYSTEM |
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| B-TownRep |
| What octane do you have to run up here with that compression? 91? |
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| Cheverz |
| It will run good on 91-94 |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by Cheverz
oh and i got a set of PRO-FLO Shorty headers and a new Y-pipe they were goin n my 305 probally will work on the 350? good for a little bit of HP Ill see if i need them for anything in the next month and get back to yah :)
You'll want to check what sizes the inlet ports are on the headers - they do make different sizes and if you have a 500HP 383 then you may need one of the bigger sizes.
They'll fit regardless, however they may choke the motor a bit if too small. |
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| Cheverz |
| These probally wont be going on the 383 i was just letting the other guy have them if i dont use them on it. I think they should work ok though but i'll look into it thx fo tip trev |
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| Cheverz |
| So... The Original 383 is now being built should recieve in 4-5 month's abit long but oh well!! the only difffernce is Its 460HP now and not 450 :D all together it's gonna cost about 7500.00USD. that's adding in the new Flexplate for the trans.. op0o0o Im all giddy for this to get here :D |
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| B-TownRep |
| holy eff man, than things sounds like a monster.... four to five months puts you in.... april, drop it in in a couple weeks and let 'er rip! thats good timing!!! thats sweet bro :thumbup: |
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| Cheverz |
| Dam straight buddy!! Man my neighbos are gonna be PISSED haha Some of you guys are gonna have to check your RPM gauges to see if your cars are still on:lol: jsut kiddin :) but yah it should only take a day maybe 2-3 if im lazy :D i might just get GM to do it that way i get a nice little warranty thing heh 500 to pull it ''which ill do'' and.. 500 for them to put it in :P Mannn im So Stoked for this! |
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| Cheverz |
| P.s u going to the meet B? |
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| B-TownRep |
| Not tonight, but if there is inother one this weekend of if it doesnt snow next week i will be for sure. |
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| Cheverz |
Sounds good so when you starting the work on the ''Muscle truck'' :P
And Holy Dam im getting antsy to burn off the other Slicks i got sitting in my Garage but i shall Save it for Summer :D |
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| B-TownRep |
| Lol. I've somehwat started a little bit, i've got 3" into dual 2.5" catless cherrybomb exhaust(sounds so good), and a k&n intake. But i've got my whole stereo done and it's getting ppainted flat black in a few weeks so really i just have the performance stuff to take care of, which is really the stuff i want the most lol. I'm just sorta limited on cash, and seriously limited on experience. |
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| Cheverz |
| I see I would Ditch the cherry bomb Canadian tire stuff If i was you :) |
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| crzyone |
I think a modern fuel injected sbc would be cool. Swap in an LS1 or spring for an LS6 or LS2. You will get lots of power, lighter weight, higher revs and better fuel economy, not to mention tons of aftermarket.
Long tube header LS2 or LS6 would be sick. 400+ hp to start. |
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| Cheverz |
| Its Overly Done and bores me other then that yah its a good set up to have. This one just funner :) |
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| Geofux |
I want that engine. ;)
However, my car would probably end up in pieces with that kind of power. :p |
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| B-TownRep |
| Lol the cherrybombs are just temps. once i get a set of headers on there loud magnaflows or something similar will be goin on. |
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| tokes |
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Originally posted by Cheverz
Its Overly Done and bores me other then that yah its a good set up to have. This one just funner :)
You just called an LS1 overly done, but are going for the white trash mid 90's special in the form of a 383 crate motor? Gimme a fuckin' break. Only an idiot would take a worse motor because he thinks the better one is "boring" |
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| Cheverz |
The ls1 conversion is a pain in the ass and it is overl done iv had to do 3 of them its a PAIN in the assI dont want the EFI i want the old shcool Carb Easy to fix and with the amount of HP im gonna need to do alot more tuning and this is just simpler/Cheaper. I didnt say the LS1 wasnt a good engine i do like it im just not gonna trash my car for it.This way i drop in my new crate and when if i sell my car put the original block back in it for value reasons in the future.quote:
Originally posted by tokes
You just called an LS1 overly done, but are going for the white trash mid 90's special in the form of a 383 crate motor? Gimme a fuckin' break. Only an idiot would take a worse motor because he thinks the better one is "boring"
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| crzyone |
If you have done many of them you would realize how much superior they are to a carb engine.
You have to tune an efi engine as well as a carb engine. Carbs do not magically get AFRs correct. Both should have a dyno tune to make sure they are producing maximum power and proper air fuel ratios.
An LS1 has every advantage over a carbed 383. Less drivetrain snapping torque, more horsepower, higher revs, better fuel economy and lighter weight.
A 383 is a truck engine, as most strokers are. Lots of low RPM torque but usually lack upper rpm performance.
A 377 (400 block and 350 crank) is a much cooler engine. more willing to go to higher rpms and make more hp.
Always been a fan of oversquare engines. |
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| B-TownRep |
| Give the guy a break, he found an engine that he was happy with, and so he ordered it. I see what you guys are saying with fuel injected , but maybe he's just a fan of the old carb style tuning, or maybe it's just what he knows best and what he is more comfortable with. As far as the other issues go, he may have also picked the 383 since it is basically a drop in turn key motor if i'm not mistaken, and it'll be easy for him to convert back to stock if need be, where as the LS1, the great motor it is, requires the whole electrical system to be redone among lots of other things and that can add up to big bucks, as well as not knowing the initial condition of the motor unless its rebuilt. the stroker is brand new. And as far has horsepower goes, the LS1 from let's say a donor Z28 clocks in at 375 HP, and the 383 at 460......... thats a significant difference. The LS1 does have a better power potential, but maybe he just wants out of the box step on it and go performance. This WILL be a bad ass car, no doubt about it, with the 383 underhood. |
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| airpak |
| for street driving torque>hp. |
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| crzyone |
I guess if you are talking about 4 cylinder cars.
All of the above V-8s have plenty of tire roasting torque. |
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