| Obx? - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| xJoshx |
| Has anyone had any experience with the brand OBX? They make tons of stuff just don't know about the quality... |
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| EK9Hatch |
Most of it is garbage. Its lower end quality stuff. Its ok for the average ricer, but I wouldn't buy anything if you were serious about building your car.
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| ChromeDragon |
I hear they make fantastic female sanitary products. The X is for eXtreme flow.
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| xJoshx |
LOL
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
I hear they make fantastic female sanitary products. The X is for eXtreme flow.
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| xJoshx |
| But more specifically Cams. I don't know not really something you want to cheap out on. |
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| TurboEG6 |
| Pretty much everything from OBX is garbage except for the LSD they have mixed reviews but personally I think it is a good LSD for the price. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by xJoshx
But more specifically Cams. I don't know not really something you want to cheap out on.
I would highly recommend NOT buying cams from them. What car/motor are you looking for cams for? What other mods do you have that requires aftermarket cams?
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| Rich_A |
how about their turbos? I mean shit, turbos have to be built to spool at retarded speeds and must be balanced. they have a good warranty so they can't be garbage otherwise it doesn't make sense.
anyone know about or have experience with OBX turbos? |
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| MangledMoose |
| You get what you pay for IMO ... I'd stay away from OBX as for Turbos I would go with the big names like Greddy, Apexi, HKS, Garett etc etc etc they may be more money but hey like I said you get what you pay for and the Big names obviously spend way more time on R&D |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by MangledMoose
You get what you pay for IMO ... I'd stay away from OBX as for Turbos I would go with the big names like Greddy, Apexi, HKS, Garett etc etc etc they may be more money but hey like I said you get what you pay for and the Big names obviously spend way more time on R&D
Aslong as you check the bturbo out first usually you can get away with a chinacharger.
One guy made 297rwhp on 17psi with one on his 1.9l miata |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by dc2696
Aslong as you check the bturbo out first usually you can get away with a chinacharger.
One guy made 297rwhp on 17psi with one on his 1.9l miata
those chinachargers are better compared to when they first came out, but they are far from anything i would consider using. its like gambling, how much do you want to risk in the motor build? there are only certain things i would consider using from companies like SSAC and OBX, and their only the really small parts that dont play a significant role |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| with manifolds cracking, turbos falling apart, etc i wouldn't ttrust them at all. even though i hear reports of their stuff getting better. the lsd's supposely are pretty good id you rebuild them (easy process). |
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| Flip |
| From what I've gathered, OBX, SSAutochrome, XSTurbo(sp?) are all one in the same to cover their asses on warranty claims and lawsuits. Stay clear anyway. |
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| newaccorddriver |
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Originally posted by Flip
From what I've gathered, OBX, SSAutochrome, XSTurbo(sp?) are all one in the same to cover their asses on warranty claims and lawsuits. Stay clear anyway.
i think their different, but use the same overseas supplier for their parts |
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| Flip |
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Originally posted by newaccorddriver
i think their different, but use the same overseas supplier for their parts
High quality german overseas suppliers I'm sure... |
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| newred |
OBX & XS Racing EBay Manifolds have been getting good reviews buy a lot of Supra owners.
But what do they know, they are only making upwards to 600 - 800hp. Maybe all those Civic & H22 Prelude that are making the BIG POWER like 200- 300 hp know best.:dunno:
OBX & the likes of XS racing are more or less copies of Greddy & HKS Manifold. |
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| xJoshx |
| I think anything thats not a major component is fine. They make a whole bunch of stuff. Thats just what ive gathered, I think im going to stick to major brands for anything big. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by newred
OBX & XS Racing EBay Manifolds have been getting good reviews buy a lot of Supra owners.
But what do they know, they are only making upwards to 600 - 800hp. Maybe all those Civic & H22 Prelude that are making the BIG POWER like 200- 300 hp know best.:dunno:
OBX & the likes of XS racing are more or less copies of Greddy & HKS Manifold.
How many Supra owners that spent tons of money to make 800HP is going to skimp out on a piece of shit Manifold from a garbage company? If I saw a Supra that dyno'd at 800HP and he had a OBX manifold, I would point and laugh at him.
I don't know why people have such a hard time comprehending that you get what you pay for. Sure these shit brands can hold up for a bit, but sooner or later the part will fail...and quite possibly, depending on the part...destroy your engine.
My philosophy is to do it right the first time or don't do it at all.
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| newred |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
How many Supra owners that spent tons of money to make 800HP is going to skimp out on a piece of shit Manifold from a garbage company? If I saw a Supra that dyno'd at 800HP and he had a OBX manifold, I would point and laugh at him.
I don't know why people have such a hard time comprehending that you get what you pay for. Sure these shit brands can hold up for a bit, but sooner or later the part will fail...and quite possibly, depending on the part...destroy your engine.
My philosophy is to do it right the first time or don't do it at all.
Jamie
Well you might just be pointing and laughing at me. Sure I might not be making 800hp (maybe 700hp), But If the Manifold holds up, I could be saving around $1000 - 1500.
Most companies that sell $1500 Manifold are just HKS Knock offs. Why, because they work.
If a $300 HKS knock off works the same as a $1500 HKS knock off, why not try the $300 one.
Trust me I would buy the $1500 Manifold, but when I more likely will be paying over $5000 for a HKS EMS. It's nice to save a little. |
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| Flip |
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Originally posted by newred
Well you might just be pointing and laughing at me. Sure I might not be making 800hp (maybe 700hp), But If the Manifold holds up, I could be saving around $1000 - 1500.
Most companies that sell $1500 Manifold are just HKS Knock offs. Why, because they work.
If a $300 HKS knock off works the same as a $1500 HKS knock off, why not try the $300 one.
Trust me I would buy the $1500 Manifold, but when I more likely will be paying over $5000 for a HKS EMS. It's nice to save a little.
But they don't work the same, it's not always what you can see. The chinese knock offs are terribly cast, have shitty welds,... you don't save in the end. $5000 for an HKS EMS? Buy an American AEM EMS that will work better if you're that concerned with saving a buck. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by Flip
But they don't work the same, it's not always what you can see. The chinese knock offs are terribly cast, have shitty welds,... you don't save in the end. $5000 for an HKS EMS? Buy an American AEM EMS that will work better if you're that concerned with saving a buck.
So who In Edmonton or In Alberta will tune the AEM as Good as I could get the HKS tuned? |
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| Flip |
| Who claims to be able to tune the HKS for you? Has HKS changed their protocols regarding locking software and only allowing "authorized" dealers to have full access to their tuning tools? |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by Flip
Who claims to be able to tune the HKS for you? Has HKS changed their protocols regarding locking software and only allowing "authorized" dealers to have full access to their tuning tools?
:read:
HKS Pro Dealer Certified
http://www.monsterhorsepower.com/
http://www.hksusa.com/dealers/Default.asp
He is pricey, but one of the top HKS Pro tuners...
So who is Qualified for tuning AEM??? Let me quess:confused: Sud racing? |
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| chris f |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
How many Supra owners that spent tons of money to make 800HP is going to skimp out on a piece of shit Manifold from a garbage company? If I saw a Supra that dyno'd at 800HP and he had a OBX manifold, I would point and laugh at him.Jamie
Ya, i can see it now, "Word bro, is that an obx manifold on your ride, DAM that shit wack, thoes mainfolds are CRAP!! Whats that? you made 800hp? dan thats nothing, your obx riced out Supra is wak.(as you climb in to your civik that makes 1/4 the horsepower)" Ya your really smart
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
I don't know why people have such a hard time comprehending that you get what you pay for. Sure these shit brands can hold up for a bit, but sooner or later the part will fail...and quite possibly, depending on the part...destroy your engine.Jamie
Does this go for everything? im guessing to have a tool box full of just snap-on tools? if what your saying is true and you not an ass |
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| doom26464 |
| XS power makes some pretty good products actually. There A2w intercoolers are pretty effencient from what I hear. As for obx I dunno my friend bought a obx catback for his neon sounded nice and noticed a slight high end gain.... |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by chris f
Ya, i can see it now, "Word bro, is that an obx manifold on your ride, DAM that shit wack, thoes mainfolds are CRAP!! Whats that? you made 800hp? dan thats nothing, your obx riced out Supra is wak.(as you climb in to your civik that makes 1/4 the horsepower)" Ya your really smart
My Civic that makes a 1/4 the HP? Obviously you are the "really smart one" because you don't have a fucking clue about what my civic was or how much power it made.
My Civic was built to handle upwards of 600+ HP. It was fully built you dumbass. I like it when people try to talk shit and they have no idea who they are talking about.
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Originally posted by chris f
Does this go for everything? im guessing to have a tool box full of just snap-on tools? if what your saying is true and you not an ass
Another example of your intelligence. Re-read that last quote of yourself. What the fuck are you trying to say? Obviously English must be your 5th language.
Sit down at your computer.....take your time to think hard about what you are going to say...then try to pretend you are smarter than me.
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| AudiInProgress |
| Now now children, settle down, or Uncle Rob is going to have to bust out the Vaseline. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
My Civic was built to handle upwards of 600+ HP. It was fully built you
Jamie
Not trying to start shit, But what kind of manifold do u have????
EZ didn't build ur car, did they??? |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by newred
Not trying to start shit, But what kind of manifold do u have????
EZ didn't build ur car, did they???
Oh Snap!
ez builds cars? |
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| chris f |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
My Civic that makes a 1/4 the HP? Obviously you are the "really smart one" because you don't have a fucking clue about what my civic was or how much power it made.
My Civic was built to handle upwards of 600+ HP. It was fully built you dumbass. I like it when people try to talk shit and they have no idea who they are talking about.
Another example of your intelligence. Re-read that last quote of yourself. What the fuck are you trying to say? Obviously English must be your 5th language.
Sit down at your computer.....take your time to think hard about what you are going to say...then try to pretend you are smarter than me.
Jamie
oh, i see it was built TO HANDLE 600 hp, 1/4 times? mph? The srt could handle 500 on stock interanls and Rons engine COULD handle 1400, and the 2JZ-GTE 800ish hp on stock internals. But we do talk about what it could do, we talk about what the car DOES.So then what does it make?
And i guess you as good with cars as i am with spelling |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by newred
Not trying to start shit, But what kind of manifold do u have????
EZ didn't build ur car, did they???
I built the car. As for my block, it was done by Benson. The Manifold was a Full-Race.
Read this thread if you want to know a little more...
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...mp;pagenumber=1
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by chris f
oh, i see it was built TO HANDLE 600 hp, 1/4 times? mph? The srt could handle 500 on stock interanls and Rons engine COULD handle 1400, and the 2JZ-GTE 800ish hp on stock internals. But we do talk about what it could do, we talk about what the car DOES.So then what does it make?
And i guess you as good with cars as i am with spelling
Buddy, the car was fully built and was in the range of 500-600HP easily. I could list off all the mods and what the build was, but I'm not going to waste my time. Many regulars on this board knew about my build up.
Anyways, the car was never dyno'd or tracked, because some mother fucker stole my car. It took me 5 years to build.
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| arabian_ryda |
| i dont get why people even bother arguing with chris f(agget). hes a known shit disturber. |
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| Flip |
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Originally posted by newred
:read:
HKS Pro Dealer Certified
http://www.monsterhorsepower.com/
http://www.hksusa.com/dealers/Default.asp
He is pricey, but one of the top HKS Pro tuners...
So who is Qualified for tuning AEM??? Let me quess:confused: Sud racing?
Haha, subracing... no. But for someone to do it themselves there is alot of support and proven basemaps for AEM, especially supras. And everything is there, there's no gimmicks to limit the consumer like the Japanese systems sometimes use. Everything is layed out, so if the theory is there a Motec, EFI live, SCT etc. tuner can know what they're doing, and it's just a matter of learning to navigate menus and fine tuning. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by Flip
Haha, subracing... no. But for someone to do it themselves there is alot of support and proven basemaps for AEM, especially supras. And everything is there, there's no gimmicks to limit the consumer like the Japanese systems sometimes use. Everything is layed out, so if the theory is there a Motec, EFI live, SCT etc. tuner can know what they're doing, and it's just a matter of learning to navigate menus and fine tuning.
Well my car is a Supra not a DSM. I want it to run all the time.:lol: |
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| PimpSlap |
| You got a Supra to? I just picked one up myself!:lol: |
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| PimpSlap |
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Originally posted by arabian_ryda
i dont get why people even bother arguing with chris f(agget). hes a known shit disturber.
The guy can't spell, but atleast his points are factual based not just I heard, or it should beable to etc.. |
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Originally posted by newred
Well my car is a Supra not a DSM. I want it to run all the time.:lol:
Guys trying to give you some advice and same you a couple grand and you make a smart ass comment. Nice. |
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| Flip |
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Originally posted by newred
Well my car is a Supra not a DSM. I want it to run all the time.:lol:
Fine, overspend by thousands on an engine management system that you won't be able to adjust when your ideal tuning conditions change a little, and cheap out on some piece of shit manifold that could be stopping a $2000 turbo from dragging on the ground. Oh no wait you'll probably have a $299 XS Power turbo anyway. I don't give a shit. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by Flip
Oh no wait you'll probably have a $299 XS Power turbo anyway. I don't give a shit.
Ask Ron(aka The One)(aka 10's DSM) witch Turbo I have....
DSM guys get so mad we u talk about there cars breaking down all the time. Must be a sore spot.:drama: |
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| Flip |
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Originally posted by newred
Ask Ron(aka The One)(aka 10's DSM) witch Turbo I have....
DSM guys get so mad we u talk about there cars breaking down all the time. Must be a sore spot.:drama:
Is that supposed to be a name drop or do you actually not know yourself what it is?
"Ask Ron(aka The One)(aka 10's DSM)" what he would suggest for management... |
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| Wookey |
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Originally posted by arabian_ryda
i dont get why people even bother arguing with chris f(agget). hes a known shit disturber.
Im pretty sure Chris has built more, raced/driven more faster cars then 99.9% of the people here. he can be a shit disturber but he brings in good points. |
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| charger_guy |
| yeeesh all this bull shit, until i see ppl put times down in the quarter i really don't give a crap. Next year i'll have both my 10 second cars out. |
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| dc2696 |
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Originally posted by charger_guy
yeeesh all this bull shit, until i see ppl put times down in the quarter i really don't give a crap. Next year i'll have both my 10 second cars out.
What does that have to do with anything in this thread?
Yes your v8 cars are/will be fast, we're talking about a company and their quality of parts, not quarter mile times and whose the fastest.
1.9 built bp miata 12.9 on street tires and bad driving (297rwhp 264tq untuned 17psi) on a xs-power chinacharger. |
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| charger_guy |
| the thread isn't really staying on topic anyways, we are now comparing who spends the extra $$$ for baller status. Sure you can buy something thats cheap, but you will notice the extra time put into the piece do to the quality. I pay for the best stuff for when it comes to building cars. The last thing you want is your vehicle failing apart at a competition, or even on a local cruise. Instead of reading the $$$$ value, whats the cfm rating one both pieces? A flow bench will let u know if what ur paying for is really worth it. |
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| newred |
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Originally posted by charger_guy
yeeesh all this bull shit, until i see ppl put times down in the quarter i really don't give a crap. Next year i'll have both my 10 second cars out.
Are you going to run your car with a hood this year. Also what about the dents in your car. Looks like some one T-bone you.
Fast car though.
Also I won't be single next year, I still will be run my stock twin turbos. But there will be new parts on the car. |
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| charger_guy |
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Originally posted by newred
Are you going to run your car with a hood this year. Also what about the dents in your car. Looks like some one T-bone you.
Fast car though.
Also I won't be single next year, I still will be run my stock twin turbos. But there will be new parts on the car.
yup The car will have a hood, as for the body work, it was the last thing on my mind. If u have any idea the amount of $$ thats in my car you would understand. Im a big believer in doing it right, so i built the entire drivetrain, leaving me to disassemble it to rotisary it next year. |
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| PimpSlap |
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Originally posted by Flip
Is that supposed to be a name drop or do you actually not know yourself what it is?
"Ask Ron(aka The One)(aka 10's DSM)" what he would suggest for management...
Just ask me!:p I'm supposed to be Ron anyhow?:drama: |
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| PimpSlap |
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Originally posted by charger_guy
yeeesh all this bull shit, until i see ppl put times down in the quarter i really don't give a crap. Next year i'll have both my 10 second cars out.
Until you do run the times you don't have two 10 second car though!:blink: |
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| chris f |
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Originally posted by Wookey
Im pretty sure Chris has built more, raced/driven more faster cars then 99.9% of the people here. he can be a shit disturber but he brings in good points.
Thanks Chad, you get one Beer, and i get a new sig. |
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| charger_guy |
| true enough, but so far i've been hitting my goals every year, went from mid 12's to mid 11's and now 10's is on the list. The car is running 60% right now, once i push all the hp it should be running, it will hit those numbers. I hit 60 foot times in the 1.5's, so traction is not an issue. Now its time to pour on the power:D |
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| kevito_ |
| I used an OBX 'catalytic converter' on my CRX. It wasn't a bad looking cat-shaped straight pipe for $50. I find it hard to expect that part to really fail. I wouldn't use OBX on any serious performance car, tho. |
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| Prudz_lude |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Now now children, settle down, or Uncle Rob is going to have to bust out the Vaseline.
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