| NightmareMX6 |
| That is fast but even if I had the money I would still never buy one just because of that gay ass transmission. |
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| CanuckDave |
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Originally posted by NightmareMX6
That is fast but even if I had the money I would still never buy one just because of that gay ass transmission.
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
This is an electronically shifted manual, not an automatic. It will bang through the gears faster than you could dream of shifting.
Too many people confuse the shitty 'manumatic' modes offered on many cars these days with true setups like in this GT-R or Ferraris.
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| Invalid Zero |
| If it doesn't have a manually operated clutch, it can suck it. |
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| AuZZZie |
Half the reason it can do 0-60 in 3.3 is because of the tranny..
I'd like too see any of you guys refuse the car because it wasn't a stick.. :rolleyes:
I'd prefer stick too.. But id still take one in a hearbeat. |
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| AudiInProgress |
did this really need a new thread?
and i wouldn't turn the car down, regardless of transmission, i would turn it down due to price and lack of interior room... :lol: |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| no manual clutch = no thanks. i don't care how fast it is. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
| id take this car in a second..id even buy one if i had the money..very impressive and i love the aggressive look of this car..if it was in the 50k range id buy one =( |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
no manual clutch = no thanks. i don't care how fast it is.
Fuck how many times has it gotta be said.. It is a manual clutch.. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| no clutch pedal, no manual clutch. simple as that. |
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| NightmareMX6 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
no clutch pedal, no manual clutch. simple as that.
Well said. |
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| not-boosted |
| you are all stubborn idiots :blink: |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by not-boosted
you are all stubborn idiots :blink:
x2
Two dudes that drive Preludes wouldn't want a GTR cause theres no stick.. :rolleyes:
Yea and if i found a million bucks id hand it all in. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| finally some numbers to go off of |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by not-boosted
you are all stubborn idiots :blink:
x3 |
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| Kobe Tai |
| I want one... any CDN pricing yet? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| i could care less what you guys say, nissian fucked up, theres no way im driving a paddle shifted, auto clutch sports car. i guess it would be nice for a 40year old in a mid life crisis, but thats it. and what i drive has nothing to do with this conversation. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| Something tells me Nissan doesn't care. Every single one of these that is built and sent to North America is going to sell nearly instantly. |
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| CanuckDave |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i could care less what you guys say, nissian fucked up, theres no way im driving a paddle shifted, auto clutch sports car. i guess it would be nice for a 40year old in a mid life crisis, but thats it.
:lol:
Nissan built a transmission that can shift faster than any human possible could and they "fucked up"?
Truth is, they built a very advanced car thats priced in league with the Corvette, which is truly impressive.
I have to laugh at anybody who says they wouldn't drive one because it doesn't have a manually operated clutch, sure I enjoy rowing through the gears as much as the next person, but having a clutch or not certainly wouldn't change my opinion about the car. |
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| vspec |
heres some perspective for you guys. take a look at the top quarter mile times by production cars.
http://www.autocult.com.au/NewsDetail.aspx?id=582
with the exception of the Ultima GTR, all those other cars in the top 5 are in the $700K+ range. So for $70K-100K the Nissan is a smokin good deal i think, clutch pedal or no clutch pedal. I dont know about you guys, but going fast for cheap (comparatively) is something most of us want, I know I do! |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
i think anyone who says they wouldnt like this car because it doesnt have a manual clutch is fuckin retarded specially considering they have never driven it yet. i bet you a night with my sister that if you get in that car and drive it, youll shit your pants wanting one after, clutch or no clutch.
in my opinion, it would be way more fun to slip through gears that fast without the worry of grinding or accidently missing a gear, and feeling the jolt of the car with each flick of the paddle. its a pretty remarkable car and to say its a peice of shit because youd rather have a slower transmission is just idiocy. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
:lol:
its not a drivers car at all, autos have been faster then standards for a long time, take the supra. 9 out of 10 drag supras are all auto. turbo cars are faster in auto due to no boost loss betqween shifts, etc. this is nothing new. bottom line, its a auto. end of story. everyone is just nut hugging it due to it being a GTR. i'd take a Z06 over it any day of the week. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
:lol:
its not a drivers car at all, autos have been faster then standards for a long time, take the supra. 9 out of 10 drag supras are all auto. turbo cars are faster in auto due to no boost loss betqween shifts, etc. this is nothing new. bottom line, its a auto. end of story. everyone is just nut hugging it due to it being a GTR. i'd take a Z06 over it any day of the week.
your absolutely right..id take the prelude with a 5 speed shitshift over a gtr anyday just so i can push a pedal in and pretend i can drive a car. |
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| Invalid Zero |
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Originally posted by CanuckDave
I have to laugh at anybody who says they wouldn't drive one because it doesn't have a manually operated clutch,
Nobody here said they wouldn't drive one. I'd love to beat the crap out of one for a day. But if I had that kind of dough to drop on a car, it'd be on a Z06. Lighter and has the right transmission.
Same as if I had a mil to drop on a car. I'd take a McLaren F1 over a Veyron without a second thought. I hate heavy cars, with automatic shifted clutches.
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i'd take a Z06 over it any day of the week.
Agreed 100% |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
your absolutely right..id take the prelude with a 5 speed shitshift over a gtr anyday just so i can push a pedal in and pretend i can drive a car.
everyone bags the prelude, whats the reason? must be jealous i have one and you don't? only thing i can think of. noone can stop talking about it. or maybe its the fact its faster then 90% of peoples cars on the board. hmmmmm.....
I guess bashing it makes you feel better. when you have something to compare to it, then you can open your mouth, until then, fuck off. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Invalid Zero
Nobody here said they wouldn't drive one. I'd love to beat the crap out of one for a day. But if I had that kind of dough to drop on a car, it'd be on a Z06. Lighter and has the right transmission.
Same as if I had a mil to drop on a car. I'd take a McLaren F1 over a Veyron without a second thought. I hate heavy cars, with automatic shifted clutches.
Agreed 100%
exactly. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
everyone bags the prelude, whats the reason? must be jealous i have one and you don't? only thing i can think of. noone can stop talking about it. or maybe its the fact its faster then 90% of peoples cars on the board. hmmmmm.....
I guess bashing it makes you feel better. when you have something to compare to it, then you can open your mouth, until then, fuck off.
lol because you talk of it like its a fuckin ferrari.. youve had nothing but problems with it due to your inability to drive it properly, along with taking the value village route to modifying it. You know damn well what i had was nicer then your car and thats not even the point. Your bashing a technologicly advanced car because you think it needs a manual clutch. the car itself wasnt designed with one because guess what, it wasnt designed to be a slow car. it was designed for people who appreciate its capabilities, not for people who think they are fresh out of fast and furious with thier double clutching skills. |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
i think anyone who says they wouldnt like this car because it doesnt have a manual clutch is fuckin retarded specially considering they have never driven it yet. i bet you a night with my sister that if you get in that car and drive it, youll shit your pants wanting one after, clutch or no clutch.
So after I drive one here you can send your sister over to my place. I'll likely want one, but I won't be shitting my pants. hehe:beer: |
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| CanuckDave |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
everyone is just nut hugging it due to it being a GTR.
You couldn't be further from the truth, I'm a Toyota fan personally.. and I was skeptical of the GTR when I first saw photos and details, but I have to admit that I am impressed with the final result.
quote:
Originally posted by Invalid Zero
Same as if I had a mil to drop on a car. I'd take a McLaren F1 over a Veyron without a second thought. I hate heavy cars, with automatic shifted clutches.
I'm right with you there, I'll take something very light and quick with a good power / weight ratio any day over something big, bloated and fast.
I do dislike run of the mill automatics, for example.. my own car, it would be considerably more fun if I could actually shift where I wanted to.
I prefer a standard tranny in a daily driver, but in a racing application I don't give a fuck how the transmission is shifted, as long as its as fast as possible.
Anybody want to guess what kind of transmission Damien wants to use in the high power GTR he is building?
All that said.. if I had enough money to buy a new GTR or Z06.. well I'd probably build a MkIV with a 6 speed and an anti lag system, because it would be ridiculously fun lol |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by ChromeDragon
So after I drive one here you can send your sister over to my place. I'll likely want one, but I won't be shitting my pants. hehe:beer:
chances are youve tapped that ass once or twice already |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by CanuckDave
You couldn't be further from the truth, I'm a Toyota fan personally.. and I was skeptical of the GTR when I first saw photos and details, but I have to admit that I am impressed with the final result.
I'm right with you there, I'll take something very light and quick with a good power / weight ratio any day over something big, bloated and fast.
I do dislike run of the mill automatics, for example.. my own car, it would be considerably more fun if I could actually shift where I wanted to.
I prefer a standard tranny in a daily driver, but in a racing application I don't give a fuck how the transmission is shifted, as long as its as fast as possible.
Anybody want to guess what kind of transmission Damien wants to use in the high power GTR he is building?
All that said.. if I had enough money to buy a new GTR or Z06.. well I'd probably build a MkIV with a 6 speed and an anti lag system, because it would be rediculously fun lol
good points..i agree with you.. i dont mind if someone disagrees with the design if it makes sense to do so.. but just because you like to shift with the clutch is a rediculous reason to call down the car lol the car was built to be raced not to be a daily driver or street raced against turbo preludes. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
chances are youve tapped that ass once or twice already
your telling me the 13 grand in my car is the value village route? abosolutely nothing is wrong with the car, inability to drive it properly? nothing has ever broke due to not driving it properly. i have no idea where that came from. ya the 1st setup was cheap, and it broke, surprise, surprise. but i guess my completely built engine is the "cheap way out" according to you. and if your talking about your 5th gen with severely low compression and needed a rebuild? yep, sure nicer then mine.
i have no idea what you have against me or my car, but obviously something is up. |
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| Madhouse |
I'd trade in my 6spd for one of those badboys any day of the fucking week. I love manual but that car is godly. I can't even imagine what it'll be like with the typical mods.
I did laugh though when I saw some of the rides of people writing it off. I can't afford one either but it was still funny. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
your telling me the 13 grand in my car is the value village route? abosolutely nothing is wrong with the car, inability to drive it properly? nothing has ever broke due to not driving it properly. i have no idea where that came from. ya the 1st setup was cheap, and it broke, surprise, surprise. but i guess my completely built engine is the "cheap way out" according to you. and if your talking about your 5th gen with severely low compression and needed a rebuild? yep, sure nicer then mine.
i have no idea what you have against me or my car, but obviously something is up.
no im talking when you first did your auto to manual swap and you fucked your transmission then tried blaming it on the shop that installed it.. and your junkyard turbo setup that you tried to throw together in a day in your parents warehouse. after that blew up you decided to have it built so i commend you on that.. and my prelude had low compression but guess what..it was boosted for 120 000k, thats pretty fuckin good for not needing a rebuild and it still was good after 120k..there were no issues with my car the entire time i owned it =D
anyways i couldnt give a shit less about your car or my old car..id just like to here something constructive about your opinion on this supposedly idiotic design from nissan. if you were to design a car strictly for the track, racing enthusiast, tell me why it would be more beneficial to use a manual clutch pedal tyler. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| shop that installed the 1st tranny did fuck it up. shift cables were loose/ and when honda looked at the install they were all laughing from wrong hardware used, shortcuts, hacked harness, etc. it was the shops fault. if i sucked at driving im pretty sure a lsd tranny would have failed by now with the abuse on it. and the GTR isn't a track only race car now is it. its a street car. they should have AT LEAST had a 6spd option. not limit everyone to auto. |
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| CanuckDave |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
and the GTR isn't a track only race car now is it. its a street car. they should have AT LEAST had a 6spd option. not limit everyone to auto.
The Ferrari F430 is a street car too. Do you hear anybody complaining that it isn't available with a manual transmission? |
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| ChromeDragon |
quote:
Originally posted by CanuckDave
The Ferrari F430 is a street car too. Do you hear anybody complaining that it isn't available with a manual transmission?
That's really the only reason I haven't bought one already.:dunno: |
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| Prudz_lude |
i agree i would never buy a gtr due to the lack of clutch pedal. I would however accept one as a gift, drive it to hell and back, and have no problem rolling in it around town. I would not care if it was slower i would still want a manual.
As for the technology behind it. I agree, it was built for what 92_white_h23 said. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by CanuckDave
The Ferrari F430 is a street car too. Do you hear anybody complaining that it isn't available with a manual transmission?
That and they did not have my color.
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| NightmareMX6 |
Just because the GTRs tranny is highly advanced doesn't make it better, just means there is more shit to go wrong. Reason no one complains about the F430 is cause it is way out of everyones price range, the GTR is very obtainable compared to that.
Stop bashing on each others cars, grow up. Mines better then yours crap grow up.
BTW post a pic of your sister 92_WhItE_H23 to see if anyone will take up your bet. :thumbup: |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
everyone bags the prelude, whats the reason? must be jealous i have one and you don't? only thing i can think of. noone can stop talking about it. or maybe its the fact its faster then 90% of peoples cars on the board. hmmmmm.....
I guess bashing it makes you feel better. when you have something to compare to it, then you can open your mouth, until then, fuck off.
I didn't have a problem with you until this thread. You sound like a ignorant moron.. "Preludes for life.. Fuck the rest"
First of all. Im sure Nissan doesn't give two fucks about your opinion.
Second of all. You cant afford one anyways so who cares.
3rd. Noones bashing preludes. But if your gonna throw your Prelude in the Ring with a GTR expect some comments.
Hole thread is worthless cause im sure theres only maybe 2-3 people that have posted that can POSSIBLY even afford one. |
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| tercel drifter |
i dont care about the no clutch pedal, hell if i had the money i'd buy it. perfect launch, perfect shifts sure beats hearing crrrrrr when u miss a gear lol
anyways to the guy with the prelude, please stop talking like ur car is the best, first of all its a fwd and even the 2001 preludes the cluster and everything else look like from at least 1995 it looks old |
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| 2ndgenlude |
lol, coming from a s13 driver
im not going to waste my time with that comment. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
I didn't have a problem with you until this thread. You sound like a ignorant moron.. "Preludes for life.. Fuck the rest"
First of all. Im sure Nissan doesn't give two fucks about your opinion.
Second of all. You cant afford one anyways so who cares.
3rd. Noones bashing preludes. But if your gonna throw your Prelude in the Ring with a GTR expect some comments.
Hole thread is worthless cause im sure theres only maybe 2-3 people that have posted that can POSSIBLY even afford one.
your a fucking tool, you have no idea what i can and cannot buy.
2nd, i never said preludes for life. |
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| Nissan Fanboy |
| So much shit talk from 16 year old kids in here. It's ridiculous. |
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| Nissan Fanboy |
And LOL @ the driver's car comment.
Just because the car does not have a manual clutch doesn't make it a drivers car?
An F1 car doesn't have a manual clutch either. I guess by that criteria those aren't drivers cars. :rolleyes:
The new GTR looks every bit amazing in person as it does in the pictures. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
your a fucking tool, you have no idea what i can and cannot buy.
2nd, i never said preludes for life.
I think i do.. If you could afford a GTR why would you be driving a Prelude?
Don't try play the big man card. We all know you cant afford one so why try.
And no you didn't. But thats your attitude. Bagging a car 10000 times better than yours cause it doesn't have a stick for you to slide in between your butt cheeks. Its pathetic.
Not to mention you keep saying its not a manual when it is. |
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| turbojono |
Pretty soon people who "never say uncle" about manual transmissions are going to be the next gen of ignorant and biased fools who hold on POS cars reminiscing about the heydays when their cars were relevent.
The more advanced engines get, the more advanced and efficient the transmissions have to be as well. Eventually all cars will adopt them as the norm and people will have to get use to it.
Have fun trying to shift thru 7-8 gears with a manual clutch.
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Originally posted by NightmareMX6
Just because the GTRs tranny is highly advanced doesn't make it better, just means there is more shit to go wrong.
That's retarded. I bet dumb hick mechanics said the same thing when manufactures started implimenting fuel injection, variable valve timing, and abs brakes onto all cars. |
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| turbojono |
| This thread reminds me of when the E60 M5 was released only with the 7speed SMGIII tranny. It was wickedly fast in sport mode but all the "6 speed purists" complained about the lack of a clutch. The v10 was designed to be mated to a 7speed tranny but to try to make everyone happy, BMW released the next year's model with the 6speed transmission option from the E39. The 6speed models ended up being significantly slower and majority of the people that complained got SMG's after anyways. Almost everyone who really gives it a chance ends up loving it and switching over. |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by NightmareMX6
BTW post a pic of your sister 92_WhItE_H23 to see if anyone will take up your bet. :thumbup:
i know your not gonna be picky when it comes to free sex now are you??!?!? |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by 92_WhItE_H23
i know your not gonna be picky when it comes to free sex now are you??!?!?
Ahh.. Now i see how ugly chicks get laid.. Theres guys out there that have that attitude.. :lol:
I dunno bout you but all sex in my lifetime has been free.. Doesn't mean i take the first swamp donkey i see.. :blink: |
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
Ahh.. Now i see how ugly chicks get laid.. Theres guys out there that have that attitude.. :lol:
I dunno bout you but all sex in my lifetime has been free.. Doesn't mean i take the first swamp donkey i see.. :blink:
you very much misinterpreted what i said there haha. in other words..beggars cant be choosers... |
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| RangerMan |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i could care less what you guys say, nissian fucked up, theres no way im driving a paddle shifted, auto clutch sports car. i guess it would be nice for a 40year old in a mid life crisis, but thats it. and what i drive has nothing to do with this conversation.
aaah id test drive it man, sure you'd like it more? its a fast car one reason they want both hands on the wheel.. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by RangerMan
aaah id test drive it man, sure you'd like it more? its a fast car one reason they want both hands on the wheel..
I thought it was one hand on the wheel and the other on the head of a hot chick if you know what I am saying. Maybe that is why they made it an auto. ;)
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| RangerMan |
| lol..good point |
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| 2ndgenlude |
im done with this conversation. bottom line its auto. you plant the gas and say "wow, this is fast" and thats it" flick your wrist every once and awhile. in my eyes, not a enthusiast car at all, and thats it.
if i wanted that i would buy a AMG benz or something. You guys arn't getting the point, and if you havn't yet, you won't. speed isn't everything. its the complete driving experience. but i guess that doesn't matter, you guys sound like you want your timmies double double in your hand while going down the strip, thats fine.
Auzzie- if i wanted a 100k car i would buy one. yes i can afford one. would it be a intelligent purchase? no. but definately doable. its not hard to get into a expensive car. bottom line is i don't want one. nothing new appeals to me.
this is my last post. have fun |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
im done with this conversation. bottom line its auto. you plant the gas and say "wow, this is fast" and thats it" flick your wrist every once and awhile. in my eyes, not a enthusiast car at all, and thats it.
if i wanted that i would buy a AMG benz or something. You guys arn't getting the point, and if you havn't yet, you won't. speed isn't everything. its the complete driving experience. but i guess that doesn't matter, you guys sound like you want your timmies double double in your hand while going down the strip, thats fine.
Auzzie- if i wanted a 100k car i would buy one. yes i can afford one. would it be a intelligent purchase? no. but definately doable. its not hard to get into a expensive car. bottom line is i don't want one. nothing new appeals to me.
this is my last post. have fun
:lol: I agree. The manual transmission makes the total driving experience more enjoyable. I prefer to drive stick than auto. :D
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| 92_WhItE_H23 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
im done with this conversation. bottom line its auto. you plant the gas and say "wow, this is fast" and thats it" flick your wrist every once and awhile. in my eyes, not a enthusiast car at all, and thats it.
if i wanted that i would buy a AMG benz or something. You guys arn't getting the point, and if you havn't yet, you won't. speed isn't everything. its the complete driving experience. but i guess that doesn't matter, you guys sound like you want your timmies double double in your hand while going down the strip, thats fine.
Auzzie- if i wanted a 100k car i would buy one. yes i can afford one. would it be a intelligent purchase? no. but definately doable. its not hard to get into a expensive car. bottom line is i don't want one. nothing new appeals to me.
this is my last post. have fun
there is a difference between you buying one and your parents buying one for you..
i cant wait till the dealerships get one of these badboys in so i can test drive one hah |
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| AudiInProgress |
Personally, I think this thread needs to be locked now, it's just a bunch of bickering.
"I make more money than you."
"No you don't."
"Yeah I do too."
"Prove it."
"I don't want to."
"My dad can beat up your dad."
Seriously. This is even worse than the shit I get myself into, at least when I shit-disturb on the forum, it's entertaining for others to read...
This brings lame to a whole new level. |
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| GOT BOOST |
agreed. My E-penis is bigger than all yours. Thread locked! :lol:
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