| REFLUX |
This is a spin off of my last rant about "convenient friendships:"
No, I do not have Facebook.
What it reminds me of are the little "Personal Interview" emails we used to get from a time before pubic hair.
Fill out your life story so random people, who you think actually give a shit, can read all about you.
What is it that drives users to have this desire to spread their lives out on Facebook?
The need to be understood? People who do this...do they really think other people are truly interested?
Is there anything actually important in telling people your height & weight?
Or the tiniest detail of your newly acquired hobby in collecting retro, independent, Canadian vinyl records?
What really amazes me are the people who "Facebook" several times a day. And since when the HELL did "Facebook" become a verb?
"Hey Facebook me!" "Hey shut the fuck up!"
Seriously, are there not BETTER things to do than spending hours everyday typing about yourself?
And what kind of person spews out their autobiography to the general public anyways?
In "real" life, they'd be called "fucked up."
I can't help but imagine the underlying thought process going thru their minds:
1) "Hmm, what can I say about myself to the world that would intrigue and fascinate?" *types out everything about themselves following a generic template*
2) "Ok, now let's wait and see what people write as they read ALL about me!"
3) "Alright, time to update my profile for everyone, whom are naturally interested to follow me thru my daily life" *spends a couple hours talking about themselves some more*
Seriously, get over yourself.
Either that or get out more and practice something called "Socialization skills."
Nothing worse than spending time with someone who only waits for you to stop talking so they can start talking about themselves.
Oh, there is something worse: someone who DOESN'T wait, interrupts, and when they talk about themself...it's on an entirely different topic.
We've got 2 ears & 1 mouth so we can listen 2 times more than we talk. |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
"Hey Facebook me!" "Hey shut the fuck up!"
:lol: hahaha that's how i feel about it. I'd rather talk to people in person. |
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| jordanturbo |
I use faceboo regularly but everything on my profile is BS, I like to use it for stalking, and seein where people from highshool ended up so I can find out ways to make fun of them wheneve I see them in person that really hit home, like the shit hole they call a relationship. making fun of the filthy tramps who have kids and are out at the bar looing for someone to support them. people who end up managing the local blockbuster.
I really donot care for facebook, but it makes life so much easier when your passion is making others hell. people think they can escape bullying after they leave highschool, but they didnt think I would find facebook lol |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by jordanturbo
i use it for stalking
lol so honest. :lol: |
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| sikid111 |
| Facebook is the devil:thumbdown |
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| RSready |
I don't use facebook to write shit about myself that people don't care about. In no way is it an online autobiography. I also don't use it to stalk on old school friends because I couldn't give a shit.
I think you have a misconception of Facebook. What you are describing is more Myspace, where people blog and shit... which I agree is totally pointless and a huge waste of time (but 780 is both of those as well.)
The only reason I stay on Facebook is because it is a convenient and easy way to contact friends. It's easy to invite several of your friends to an event or whatever without putting much effort into it. I have social skills but this is just another means of communication in an age that is obsessed with it.
One might ask why you post random polls, go on rants, etc to users on 780. Should anyone care about your rant about Facebook? Should anyone care about my response?
My $0.02. |
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| Cheverz |
| I bet the C.I.A owns it and they have everyone in the world pin pointed now |
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| fugumerkur |
I had it for a while. Caught up with alot of people I was out of touch with.
Shut it down because it was useless to me, too much personal information for people to see.
THe spam, holy fuck the spam and chain letters.!
Nexopia, facebook , myspace.
what the hell is wrong with society.
im off to join a sports group at the YMCA
Though I joined 780 to meet nice people that are interested in cars.
Now I can't even mention a thing about my car without people hating me. |
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| onestepback |
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Now I can't even mention a thing about my car without people hating me.
I still love you. haha :)
But on topic, I use facebook just to chat with friends. I dont have any information on my page, other than my name. |
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| REFLUX |
quote:
Originally posted by RSready
The only reason I stay on Facebook is because it is a convenient and easy way to contact friends. It's easy to invite several of your friends to an event or whatever without putting much effort into it.
See my rant about "convenient friendships."
quote:
Originally posted by RSready
One might ask why you post random polls, go on rants, etc to users on 780. Should anyone care about your rant about Facebook? Should anyone care about my response?
My $0.02.
Very good point, I suppose I would differentiate the two (Facebook vs. 780Tuners) in that threads on an actual discussion forum are not so 1 sided.
The topics you post up on a forum can provide an opportunity to stir critical thinking and discussion.
Whereas stuff like Facebook, Myspace, Nexopia, etc, seems to only have people talking about topics that do not allow for much dialogue (external or internal).
Information about oneself usually does not generate more questions than answers.
Suppose a quick summary would be:
Facebook = I talk, you listen, period.
Discussion forums = I talk/ask, you talk/ask, we all listen. |
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| newred |
| ^^^ You have been POKE^^^:bowrofl: |
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| fugumerkur |
yeah but one prob with a forum is the threads can go way off track anyway.
How much actual useful info is there in the forums.
Can anyone starting from scratch find enough info without posting a single post on how to build the car they want using a variety of the different sections of the forum
Stereo
motor
suspension
turbo dynamics
Body and paint
Interior bling or drag safety.
Can you find all the info you need on this forum???
Its all really more useless info then it is useful.
Though with facebook you get a laugh when you go through the networks and find some people you can really get a laugh out of.!
G thugs.
Little princesses wanting love
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The Narcissitic!
you could almost conclude that 780 is facebook for us enthusiasts.....
ha, that reminds me too. Not to compare 780 with facebook.
780 is more of an Autotrader than a community forum.
The For sale section is probably bigger then anything else on the forum.
Thats going away from what the original post is about , but food for though nontheless. |
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| REFLUX |
Usefulness is a matter of perspective.
Your classification of "useful" Facebook information is quite useless to me.
I have no interest in looking at or reading about GThugs, Princesses, and etc.
It's quite similar to gossip IMO.
What you gain out of participating in filling out your own profile or reading the profiles of others, IMO, pales in comparison to discussion forums and the topics you read/post in.
Not necessarily limited to 780Tuners alone.
And living vicariously online pales to actually living.
Anyways, keep up the posts everyone :)
Great to hear different ideas! |
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| jordanturbo |
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
780 is more of an Autotrader than a community forum.
The For sale section is probably bigger then anything else on the forum.
Thats going away from what the original post is about , but food for though nontheless.
I dont think you can really consider that a valid point. I would classify 780tuners as a soft core pornographic site. Just look at h22civic's thread in the locker room. I Think it may be the longest thread in the history of the internet. I have tried to look through it many times but have never been able to find the end. I may someday have to cheat and hit last page and be dissapointed when I find the end of the universe |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
This is a spin off of my last rant about "convenient friendships:"
What is this, a blog?
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See my rant about "convenient friendships."
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Seriously, get over yourself.
Dinga!
I use Facebook, and I've yet to read or write a blog (being a daily like a diary or journal). I have made announcements, like the birth of my Son, or shared vacation stories, the same stories I've shared here. And buddy, I'm not the first one on 780 to share events from my life.
Friendships loose relevance when you move across the country and don't see one another day to day. But utilities like Facebook are great ways to stay part of one another's lives when you can't be in the same places at the same times. And sharing pictures of your family with friends who 'Actually give a shit!'
I think you're ranting about something you don't really get. You are talking about blogs, which none of my friends use. Most of the time you just get messages on your 'wall', or personal messages, which you reply to. Sounds like a discussion to me. Group or personal.
You seem to care far too much about what is an acceptable social utility and what is not. Being a Forum whore like myself, it seems more than a little hypocritical. |
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| REFLUX |
:dunno:
no one's perfect |
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| souriii |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
:dunno:
no one's perfect
Then why are you judging other people? :dunno: |
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| REFLUX |
Suppose that's the purpose of a rant, no? :D
It's been quite the learning experience
I haven't had such a strong reaction against my "anti-Facebook" rant till this thread.
Interesting to witness the "backlash" against it hahahah |
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| seevik |
| if its so bad, why is it that its so popular? maybe its not all about people reading other people's profiles? |
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| Geofux |
I use it for petrolhead, car enthusiast, messaging certain people and picture sharing amongst friends. ;)
It's pretty convenient for those things. Petrolhead is really what keeps me going back to it though. |
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| accord90 |
REFLUX Don't get mad but
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| REFLUX |
^^^
:rofl: you mofo!
I'm gonna kill you!!! |
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| souriii |
quote:
Originally posted by REFLUX
Suppose that's the purpose of a rant, no? :D
It's been quite the learning experience
I haven't had such a strong reaction against my "anti-Facebook" rant till this thread.
Interesting to witness the "backlash" against it hahahah
Backlash against it? as in backlash against ur facebook rant?
I think the backlash is more against ur ignorance, than against ur "facebook rant". It's evident from your "rant" that you have no idea how facebook functions, and what people do on there.
I barely use facebook, dont have any personal info up, in fact I don't even have my real name on facebook.
You probably spent more time typing your rant, than I spent on facebook all my life.
But to each their own I guess, I still think you should give facebook a try. Its not as evil as it seems. |
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| accord90 |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
^^^
:rofl: you mofo!
I'm gonna kill you!!!
By the way :hitit: |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by souriii
But to each their own I guess, I still think you should give facebook a try. Its not as evil as it seems.
I did premise the beginning of this thread with "No, I do not have Facebook."
So you're absolutely correct that I am completely ignorant to it.
Though I have watched some people go thru it and explain it briefly to me.
Though it is fascinating to read how people who feel they don't fall into the "I profile myself all day long" group defend Facebook so much.
I might sign up for Facebook 1 day.
accord90:
You'd hit what?
The dude wearing the blue shirt??? |
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| ozzmodan |
Facebook is just a utilility, how it is used is purely up to the individual users. If you have an "all or nothing" attitude toward relationships, where you need a strong connection with the people you associate with or none at all, then it serves no purpose to you.
On the other hand, Facebook seems to excel at staying in contact with those that really aren't friends but are still people you want to be in some contact with. Calling them "convenient friendships" seems to be a misnomer. I think "blocked friendships" would be a little more accurate. The relationships in this category are usually victims of: distance, time, lifestyle changes, and/or other friends which make it very difficult or impractical to be as close as you want to be (or once were)
Unfortunately for those involved with social networking sites (& forums), the very glib minority easily overshadows the many more people that are not.
Kyle |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
:dunno:
no one's perfect
Tell me about it. You're close, Terry, but not quite perfect. :beer: |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by ozzmodan
Facebook is just a utilility, how it is used is purely up to the individual users. If you have an "all or nothing" attitude toward relationships, where you need a strong connection with the people you associate with or none at all, then it serves no purpose to you.
I wouldn't call it an "all or nothing" nor a need for a "strong connection." The way I view relationships is that regardless of what type it is (business, sports, friends, significant others), it always takes two to make a relationship work.
Effort should be equal, ideally.
So when it is clear that 1 party does not make the effort under "non-Facebook" circumstances and then all of a sudden this "utility" comes along and the relationship is reconnected (though not necessarily rejuvenated), it makes me question the sincerity of the reconnection, of the relationship.
It seems fake.
An email to see "what's up" is really not that different from posting on Facebook in terms of message content. But what I'm focusing on is not the contents of the message but the INTENT of the message.
People can't even email each other but are willing to Facebook each other.
Why?
Because Facebook has a more socially acceptable image?
Because everyone else does it so if you happen to message someone, it won't be seen as so personal? If that's the case, then what's the point in messaging in the first place? You didn't want to message them to begin with.
In a scenario like that, doesn't that just mean the relationship is only worth keeping so long as something (rather than someone) is there to provide a channel of communication?
If that is so, then the question is: Why not make your own ways to keep in touch? Why does one have to wait for something like Facebook to come along before keeping in touch?
IMO, surely that relationship is not worthwhile enough to make the effort to stay in touch BEFORE a convenient solution came along.
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Originally posted by ozzmodan
The relationships in this category are usually victims of: distance, time, lifestyle changes, and/or other friends which make it very difficult or impractical to be as close as you want to be (or once were)
Very impractical, fine.
But for plenty of people (at least from the ppl I've talked to who "Facebook") they are not in such a situation.
The people they keep in touch with are merely a 30 minute drive away or a local phone call away.
Of course I see the value in people reconnecting with long lost friends, people who have moved, changed #s, and because of those circumstances you've lost total connection with.
Ex. Childhood friends
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Originally posted by ozzmodan
Unfortunately for those involved with social networking sites (& forums), the very glib minority easily overshadows the many more people that are not.
Kyle
Excellently put!
And you're correct in saying so, the squeaky wheel gets the grease but I suppose this rant is taking a slightly different approach to this ungreased wheel.
Instead of fixing the wheel, I'm deciding to ditch the cart entirely and use/create other means of transportation.
:lol:
oldraven:
awwwwwwwww :wub: I love you too my post-whore-friend |
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| REFLUX |
Maybe a quick way to sum up my perspective on convenient friendships is as follows (I'd put it in the other thread but it ties into the above explanation much better):
Don't be fake.
If you do not have an interest in staying in touch with someone, then DON'T.
Don't pretend to be interested in them and their lives by visiting their Facebook page and writing on their "wall" about something in their profile.
Don't say you will call when you know you won't, or to stay in touch when you don't want to.
If you DO have an interest in staying in touch with someone, then you should get in touch thru channels that are more direct and less ambiguous.
One on one, not something the general public has access to.
Be sincere in your words and in your actions. |
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| Geofux |
| If I am on and off keeping in contact with someone it allows me to sent them a message (I usually can't get a hold of people via the phone). If there are photo's I'm interested in I'll comment. I don't understand how people can spend a great amount of their time on facebook without doing anything else.. I usually keep it open just so that I can check if anyone has sent me a message or not. At that same time I'm usually browsing forums ;) |
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| AudiInProgress |
Does Terry need a hug?
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| oldraven |
I'll just say this. Facebook is the only online community I've come across that promotes real life community involvement. And I've been online a long time.
Instead of talking about some obscure common interest with random people from Sweden to Swaziland, it reminds you that people an hour away share another interest. Email doesn't work the same way because you don't get reminders every day or so of that person. You don't see a funny comment on a friends photo that you can respond to.
I've only got a few Best Friends on this earth. The rest I'm happy with being casual.
Besides, Facebook is really best for its Speed Racer/Petrolhead/Street Racer/Scrabulous applications. :D
And I'm getting rid of my funwall right now. The thing is just a new version of chain-letters and redundant forwarded youtube videos. |
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| REFLUX |
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Originally posted by oldraven
I'll just say this. Facebook is the only online community I've come across that promotes real life community involvement. And I've been online a long time.
Like I said in an earlier post, I am completely ignorant of Facebook, so could you please elaborate on this? |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by REFLUX
Like I said in an earlier post, I am completely ignorant of Facebook, so could you please elaborate on this?
Posting local events, making weekend plans, etc. One of my friends recently had an opening at a Halifax art gallery, and he posted an invitation notice. Another playing a gig a few weeks before did the same. You can confirm your attendance, give a maybe, or say you won't be able to make it. If you're throwing a party, you make an account for the event and start spreading the news. Strangely enough, I've even gone to a funeral I found out about on facebook. |
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| REFLUX |
I wonder how reliable these RSVPs are though.
People post, say they're coming, but it's hard to see it as a solid commitment :dunno:
Anyways that's not the point, good to know about the group stuff :) |
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| oldraven |
| As reliable as the person who RSVP'd, I guess. At least you'd know your friends know about the event, though. If you have shitty friends, I guess that's your own fault. :D |
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