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| Focus Guy |
How is it every other day another guy comes around with a car for a simple install that is far from simple, do performance shops not know that a Focus header wont fit a Civic? Or these so called performace experts that stuipd. Well after years of debeate yes you guys are stuipd!! Quit taken advantage of young guys and gals that dont know the differance about these parts, you f&*@ ing hacks should close up shops and go home you Fu#$s are a desgrase too the industry, why is it that you losers bitch about how the installer doesnt know what there doing, But than agian we dont use self tapping srcews and duct tape to hold cars together.
[B]CLOSE YOUR STORES AND GO HOME!
steve
Oh ya and the new one of the day Subaru WRX parts are totaly interchangable with Eagle Talon parts! Who knew that? |
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| SRBURG13 |
| If it was the performance shop, then amen to that. If not, that was harsh. |
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| Focus Guy |
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Originally posted by SRBURG13@Jul 7 2003, 08:07 PM
If it was the performance shop, then amen to that. If not, that was harsh.
Oh yes it was |
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| THEONE |
| AMEN :bow: :bigthumbup: |
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| BlueBlur |
<clap> <clap>
here! here! nicely put.
but you forgot..
"and to the so called performance shops.... a boot to the head!"
hmm...
could it possibly be that the customer tried to install it himself.. and didn't want to look foolish when he brought it in?
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| 1mns13 |
| Is this like loose bolts after a clutch swap? There's plenty of shoddy shops out there. Some aren't even performance. |
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| Focus Guy |
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Originally posted by 1mns13@Jul 7 2003, 09:22 PM
Is this like loose bolts after a clutch swap? There's plenty of shoddy shops out there. Some aren't even performance.
Yes there is lots of shady shops but when you can sell a old painted part as new or no name brand shit as big name gear thats just gay! |
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| TheNeonEdge |
Example of this....loveseth auto downtown
NEVER EVER GO THERE!
i took it in to get some carb adjustments.....they call me back hte next day and tell me I HAD A HOLE IN MY GAS TANK and i had no fuel left..... i was like umm it took me an hour to drive to your shop in rush hour if i had a hole I WOULD HAVE RAN OUTTA GAS OR AT LEAST NOTICED IT! So i went to see, and it looked like they backed my car up and hit the gas tank to a curb or soemthing.
THEN they made me pay for that shit. AND A WEEK LATER I GOT MY CAR BACK WITH NO CARB ADJUSTMENTS LIKE I ASKED!
I totally agree with you on that one midas guy, if only midas did everything and not mostly exhaust brakes and ECT.
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| DeathRat |
As a GM Partsman by trade & a Performance Parts Store owner too, yes some places DO try to just take the customer's money & let them figure out what to do with the product.... I also know that some customers just ask for a particular item & the guy/girl on the counter (not trained enough to know better) just hands over the item requested without asking for proper application to see if that item will actually work on that vehicle. It has been a pet peeve of mine to see "Parts People" get a bad rep due to lack of training & expierence on the employer's parts as the employer can get two - three young uninformed employees for the price of one professional one! This is why you see uninformed & untrained kids at Cdn Tire stores working for min. wage! If more employers were actually willing to pay professional partsman (ticketed) then maybe we wouldn't have problems like this!
Just my $0.02 ;) |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
Firstly, the owners of the cars should become more knowledgable about their own cars before getting any major work done. Research is key!
Secondly, only purchase parts from reputable buisnesses that know what their talking about, have experience, good service, and won't try to sell you something that you don't need or won't fit in your particular car.
Thirdly, only take your car to a reputable shop to get regular maintenance done, performance parts installed, custom work done, and properly tuned.
You constantly hear horror stories of so-and-so got this done at this shop and it got all f&%ked up. Well, your first mistake was taking your car there in the first place.
With the amount of time & money invested into my car so far, I will only give it the best treatment, therefore, I will only install the best parts and get them installed by the best shops. Save up and do it right the first time! |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by MIDAS GUY@Jul 7 2003, 09:55 PM
How is it every other day another guy comes around with a car for a simple install that is far from simple, do performance shops not know that a Focus header wont fit a Civic? Or these so called performace experts that stuipd. Well after years of debeate yes you guys are stuipd!! Quit taken advantage of young guys and gals that dont know the differance about these parts, you f&*@ ing hacks should close up shops and go home you Fu#$s are a desgrase too the industry, why is it that you losers bitch about how the installer doesnt know what there doing, But than agian we dont use self tapping srcews and duct tape to hold cars together.
[B]CLOSE YOUR STORES AND GO HOME!
steve
Oh ya and the new one of the day Subaru WRX parts are totaly interchangable with Eagle Talon parts! Who knew that?
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| BLK_LBL |
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Posted on Jul 8 2003, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (MIDAS GUY @ Jul 7 2003, 09:55 PM)
How is it every other day another guy comes around with a car for a simple install that is far from simple, do performance shops not know that a Focus header wont fit a Civic? Or these so called performace experts that stuipd. Well after years of debeate yes you guys are stuipd!! Quit taken advantage of young guys and gals that dont know the differance about these parts, you f&*@ ing hacks should close up shops and go home you Fu#$s are a desgrase too the industry, why is it that you losers bitch about how the installer doesnt know what there doing, But than agian we dont use self tapping srcews and duct tape to hold cars together.
[B]CLOSE YOUR STORES AND GO HOME!
steve
Oh ya and the new one of the day Subaru WRX parts are totaly interchangable with Eagle Talon parts! Who knew that?
I agree, but at the same time, it can partially be the customers fault. As a buyer, this person should be somewhat knowledgeable about their car, and this person should have an idea of what will work and what wont work. And always, its in the best interest of the customer to have the part installed at the place that they purchased the part. that way, if there IS any problems, it keeps the problem localized at one shop, rather than a shop sending their problems across town. |
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| Domo |
| I was knowledgeable about my car and my engine I asked for a simple install of a short shifter, which a monkey could of done a better job. Every body knows short shifters go in from the bottom, not the top. Steve don't bad mouth other shops when yours is no better. |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Xx D-MAN xX@Jul 8 2003, 06:30 AM
Firstly, the owners of the cars should become more knowledgable about their own cars before getting any major work done. Research is key!
BINGO!! ;) |
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| 1mns13 |
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Originally posted by Domo@Jul 8 2003, 09:55 AM
I was knowledgeable about my car and my engine I asked for a simple install of a short shifter, which a monkey could of done a better job. Every body knows short shifters go in from the bottom, not the top. Steve don't bad mouth other shops when yours is no better.
Bingo. |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| someone (who I won't name but is a well known performance shop none the less) told me to put a 100 shot of N20 into the Porsche.. with something like that they'd explode :o but hey.. what does he care if he makes his 300 bux :gay: |
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| ak1200 |
| I think a lot of the problem with the performance shops in general is that they have sales people who work the front end of the business who don't know enough. They know enough to find the NOS on the wall and help you pick out a new exhaust but they don't know all the mechanics behind they systems. In most shops you don't have the mechanic working the front counter selling you the NOS system you have the mechanic working back in the garage. I really don't know if you can do anything about this unless you start hiring certified mechanics to work the front counter and that would get expensive. I think the best thing you can do as a customer is to do your own homework. If your stupid enough to listen to the sales person at any store you deserve to get taken for all your worth. |
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| RezaREX |
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Originally posted by Domo@Jul 8 2003, 09:55 AM
I was knowledgeable about my car and my engine I asked for a simple install of a short shifter, which a monkey could of done a better job. Every body knows short shifters go in from the bottom, not the top. Steve don't bad mouth other shops when yours is no better.
The short shifter on my car goes in from the top, right in the center console. |
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| mrintegra |
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Originally posted by 1mns13@Jul 8 2003, 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Domo@Jul 8 2003, 09:55 AM
I was knowledgeable about my car and my engine I asked for a simple install of a short shifter, which a monkey could of done a better job. Every body knows short shifters go in from the bottom, not the top. Steve don't bad mouth other shops when yours is no better.
Bingo.
finally someone said something about these midas people, they don't know how to work on cars at all, like not putting gear oil in after a clutch job, or not putting the engine mount bolt back in and left all the tranny housing bolts loose.... I don't think you midas guys deserve to bad mouth other shops |
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| Focus Guy |
For those of you that ever been done wrong buy us. You have been more than compensated for our faults, So I will sleep well at night knowing whatever we did has always been looked after to there benift not to ours. For the guy that didnt get gear oil in his integra tranny he got a BRAND NEW Type R tranny with a LSD for the trouble as well as a rental and bill paid from Acura. And Domo do not ever bring your so called POS Sir near out shop agian after all the bullshit we went through to help only you out on that shit ass engine dont even start with me, and I realy wish you would have tired to do say this at the shop...... because after all shit we went through over your engine I realy don't think you would have tried this. For who ever said we cant work on cars dont come buy we wont miss you.
thanks steve |
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| IH8V8S |
:P I sell high performance parts every day. I don't advertise it to the world cuz I like what I do as a hobby not as a life style. Blaine can come on here all the time and tout Pro-Drag as god's gift to all things Sport Compact. Other guys can tout their shop as being the best. I really don't care. Everyone that comes in and asks for a part I can help them out. I love cars and I like to make sure people are making an educated decision when they choose to buy something. I help out with road racing so if you want to know what suspension part "A" will do to your handling I can tell you. If you want to talk about turbo sizing I'm more than ready to help. If you'd like to talk about RX-7 I can talk your ear off about mods. I am a shitty salesman cuz I'm honest. But I do all my own mechanical work and I only talk about what I know. Steve's right, some guys just want to send shit out the door; I want to send it and know that whoever buys it will be happy. There's a rant you can take and throw wherever you like!
Krazy Karl :wacko: |
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| TheWask |
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Originally posted by RezaREX@Jul 8 2003, 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Domo@Jul 8 2003, 09:55 AM
I was knowledgeable about my car and my engine I asked for a simple install of a short shifter, which a monkey could of done a better job. Every body knows short shifters go in from the bottom, not the top. Steve don't bad mouth other shops when yours is no better.
The short shifter on my car goes in from the top, right in the center console.
Same here! |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| short-shift this :thefinger: :D |
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| redmethods |
| are you taking about MXC Racing in Fort Mac, Because they f@cking suck to. If not oh well sorry, V4SLAYER said i can't spell any way |
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| SplineZ |
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Originally posted by RezaREX@Jul 8 2003, 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Domo@Jul 8 2003, 09:55 AM
I was knowledgeable about my car and my engine I asked for a simple install of a short shifter, which a monkey could of done a better job. Every body knows short shifters go in from the bottom, not the top. Steve don't bad mouth other shops when yours is no better.
The short shifter on my car goes in from the top, right in the center console.
same! :D Undernieth would require you to remove the gastank from my car
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| redbaron303 |
I hate shody work! I've had only one mishap and that had something to do w/ wheel lugs not being tightened and I ran near 20 passes at scc like two days l8tr not knowing!
I had some custom work done, and there was a problem and it was promptly fixed and I would recommend my mechanic to anyone b/c he's a great guy that deff. knows what he's working on!
I buy my parts from people I can trust, and before I go shopping I try to have educated myself on what I'm looking for and buying, and then listen to suggestions about what could be done different! 9/10 times I leave happy!
I've been fortunate, 4 cars later and never one real major complaint about any shop!
I do think that some of the people that certain midas' staff are not qualified (ticket or no ticket) to work on cars! The one in St Albert fucked out my TL brakes SOOOOOOOO bad and refused to pay for them, but gave us "complimentary pads" whopty fuckin do, when that cost nearly $600 by the time it was fixed! That doesnt mean that all midas' and places are bad, and I've since taken my car to another one and have had a much better experience!
Remember ppl staff these places too, and ppl are bound to make mistakes! All of the ownus shouldn't be placed on the place and it's staff, especially during a custom job! You can't expect custom work to go smoothly 100% of the time??? When something does go wrong, it's up to the shop/customer to sort it out face to face!
I personally don't believe there are many tuner shops on this city, and there are lots of good parts shops and people to instal the parts! :)
Like Darcy said... learn your ride, take it to places you trust and buy from ppl you trust! Don't just let any joe work on the car! |
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| redbaron303 |
| Domo do you drive that red civic w/ the body kit and 15's??? |
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| SplineZ |
well the only negitive experiance ive had with a shop is well.. Canadian Tire. I bow my head in shame for taking it there in the first place but what the hell.. you dont learn by winning so :)
They wrecked an engine of mine, and didnt take ANY responcibility.. but they did give me a free bubbles carwash! WOOO
that and they stripped the threads off my wheel studs, and only put new nuts on..
and they torqued my dads lug nuts to around 400ft/lbs... on our truck. Our neighbor came across the same thing too.. I cant recomend west edmonton ct for anything :)
The other shop I took my cars too is a place called "D&D Auto specialists". I NEVER had any problems with them, always prompt, never had to take it back for something once its been done. Free adjustments, and everything.. its a shame they closed up shop..
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| DeathRat |
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Originally posted by IH8V8S@Jul 8 2003, 07:39 PM
:P_ I sell high performance parts every day. I don't advertise it to the world cuz I like what I do as a hobby not as a life style. Blaine can come on here all the time and tout Pro-Drag as god's gift to all things Sport Compact. Other guys can tout their shop as being the best. I really don't care. Everyone that comes in and asks for a part I can help them out. I love cars and I like to make sure people are making an educated decision when they choose to buy something. I help out with road racing so if you want to know what suspension part "A" will do to your handling I can tell you. If you want to talk about turbo sizing I'm more than ready to help. If you'd like to talk about RX-7 I can talk your ear off about mods. I am a shitty salesman cuz I'm honest._ But I do all my own mechanical work and I only talk about what I know. Steve's right, some guys just want to send shit out the door; I want to send it and know that whoever buys it will be happy. There's a rant you can take and throw wherever you like!
Krazy Karl_ :wacko:
I only wish there was more people like you out there in the Parts Business! :bow: I started up my own store for this same reason, I got tired of some stores selling inferior parts for outrageous prices. I too am a honest person & refuse to sell you anything you don't need. I might not get rich this way, but at least I can sleep nights knowing I didn't rip someone off! |
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| BLK_LBL |
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For those of you that ever been done wrong buy us. You have been more than compensated for our faults, So I will sleep well at night knowing whatever we did has always been looked after to there benift not to ours. For the guy that didnt get gear oil in his integra tranny he got a BRAND NEW Type R tranny with a LSD for the trouble as well as a rental and bill paid from Acura. And Domo do not ever bring your so called POS Sir near out shop agian after all the bullshit we went through to help only you out on that shit ass engine dont even start with me, and I realy wish you would have tired to do say this at the shop...... because after all shit we went through over your engine I realy don't think you would have tried this. For who ever said we cant work on cars dont come buy we wont miss you.
thanks steve
uhh that cant be good for business. just a question, but how can you come on here and badmouth all these shops, yet your own shop FORGOT TO PUT OIL in a transmission?
point of the story is, EVERY SHOP makes mistakes. It doesnt matter how much the person running the shop knows, theres still going to be mistakes made. Now, how this shop deals with the mistakes is going to really show how good and comitted this shop is to provide a good service for the customer.
dealing with problems like this......quote:
And Domo do not ever bring your so called POS Sir near out shop agian after all the bullshit we went through to help only you out on that shit ass engine dont even start with me, and I realy wish you would have tired to do say this at the shop...
....is not going to resolve any problems.
honestly, how can you come on this message board, representing a business, with an attitude like that? Do you know ANYTHING about customer service? I've had customers that I would love to just sh1t in their gas tank... but as a person representing the business i work for, i keep that shit in. its more professional.
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| nuimagegsi |
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For those of you that ever been done wrong buy us. You have been more than compensated for our faults, So I will sleep well at night knowing whatever we did has always been looked after to there benift not to ours. For the guy that didnt get gear oil in his integra tranny he got a BRAND NEW Type R tranny with a LSD for the trouble as well as a rental and bill paid from Acura. And Domo do not ever bring your so called POS Sir near out shop agian after all the bullshit we went through to help only you out on that shit ass engine dont even start with me, and I realy wish you would have tired to do say this at the shop...... because after all shit we went through over your engine I realy don't think you would have tried this. For who ever said we cant work on cars dont come buy we wont miss you.
thanks steve
I think people are human and mistakes will be made it depends on how you deal with the problem after, and the compensation you deliver to your customer. Knowing domo obviously he was not happy with the sevice you and your shop gave him and was not compensated to his satisfaction. Like it or not customers will always be your best advertisement. I think if your willing to deal crap out disrespecting other shops even if their are just aftermarket shops you should be able to take some back SUCK IT UP!!!
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by DeathRat@Jul 9 2003, 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by IH8V8S@Jul 8 2003, 07:39 PM
:P_ I sell high performance parts every day. Other guys can tout their shop as being the best. I really don't care. Everyone that comes in and asks for a part I can help them out. I love cars and I like to make sure people are making an educated decision when they choose to buy something. If you want to talk about turbo sizing I'm more than ready to help. If you'd like to talk about RX-7 I can talk your ear off about mods. I am a shitty salesman cuz I'm honest._ But I do all my own mechanical work and I only talk about what I know. Steve's right, some guys just want to send shit out the door; I want to send it and know that whoever buys it will be happy. There's a rant you can take and throw wherever you like!
Krazy Karl_ :wacko:
I started up my own store for this same reason, I got tired of some stores selling inferior parts for outrageous prices. I too am a honest person & refuse to sell you anything you don't need. I might not get rich this way, but at least I can sleep nights knowing I didn't rip someone off!
With some editing, :werd: |
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| redbaron303 |
| Some guy sold me a type R tranny for my nissan.... did they rip me off....?! |
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| REFLUX |
Buyer Beware.
Do your own research and you'll be safe.
Knowledge is the best thing you can have. |
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| Pro Drag |
| Heh heh heh, I just had a visit from the Talon customer with the WRX part. :D |
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| Focus Guy |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag@Jul 10 2003, 01:02 PM
Heh heh heh, I just had a visit from the Talon customer with the WRX part. :D
Dark green? Did you bolt it on just like it was designed! |
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| Pro Drag |
Dark Green yes.
I ordered him the CORRECT part that will allow the BOV to bolt up. Whether there is enough space for it to fit physically is yet to be determined. I feel bad for this guy, he might be forced into getting an Upper Intercooler Pipe (UICP)
This whole situation is a blunder of titanic proportions. |
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| 83b18b1slow |
I like those labour rate signs in pro drag!
x2 If you worked on it before |
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