| XtraX |
This thread stems from a post by BLOCKER this morning
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
Keep in mind, the province gets the majority of the money for tickets issued, so I wouldn't call it a "revenue maker."
As well as Garner Andrews running this mouth against the EPS and ticketing speeders as a source of revenue.
Where does the money we pay in fines go?
What percent to the government? What about the EPS? or the City? |
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| BLOCKER |
I don't know exactly what percentages go where, from my understanding, majority goes to the province, who re-distributes the cash into many different funds, and only a very small percentage goes back to the service who wrote it... The comment about it being a revenue maker was intended to explain that police don't write tickets to make money. Police write tickets because it is their job to enforce provincial statutes as well a federal statutes.
Sorry, I can not be more detailed |
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| XtraX |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
Police write tickets because it is there job to enforce provincial statutes as well a federal statutes.
Exactly, I don't know if you listen to Sonic in the AM but Garner Andrews has been all over the goddamn place ripping the EPS for busting "tax paying citizens" in stead of "kicking in doors of Dirt bag drug dealers".
Garner Andrews needs to get his head out if his ass. |
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| BLOCKER |
EPS is divided into many division, one of which is traffic... that is their job, traffic enformcement. When you pull over vehicles for traffic violation you are more likely to catch "bad people."
Serial killers have been identifed/caught due to tickets issued by patrol or traffic guys.
Yes we are kicking in doors and conducting search warrants on drug dealers, ect... I have personally been apart of that. Unfortunately there are only so many police in the city and a lot of bad guys. (we are recuiting ... www.joineps.ca ) |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
EPS is divided into many division, one of which is traffic... that is their job, traffic enformcement. When you pull over vehicles for traffic violation you are more likely to catch "bad people."
Serial killers have been identifed/caught due to tickets issued by patrol or traffic guys.
Yes we are kicking in doors and conducting search warrants on drug dealers, ect... I have personally been apart of that. Unfortunately there are only so many police in the city and a lot of bad guys. (we are recuiting ... www.joineps.ca )
Too bad the recruiting policy is so damn strict. At one time I was seriously considering applying, but then I read the requirements, boo-urns to that. |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Too bad the recruiting policy is so damn strict. At one time I was seriously considering applying, but then I read the requirements, boo-urns to that.
Too bad? I think thats a good thing. Last thing i wan't is Ricky Retardo that dropped outta high school pulling me over for a ticket on a stock exhaust.
Is there an IQ test for becoming an officer? If not there should be. |
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| Rolodex-lk |
| A friend in Calgary once told me...and I called bullshit on him...that some districts have 'quotas' they gotta make on tickets issued for the year or month, which is why there are more tickets issued during the holidays...and is why some cops will pull people over and then try and figure out something to tag them with (tint, clear corners, exhaust...) any truth to that? Or urban myth. |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by Rolodex-lk
A friend in Calgary once told me...and I called bullshit on him...that some districts have 'quotas' they gotta make on tickets issued for the year or month, which is why there are more tickets issued during the holidays...and is why some cops will pull people over and then try and figure out something to tag them with (tint, clear corners, exhaust...) any truth to that? Or urban myth.
BLOCKER always says they don't issue tickets to make money. They probably don't. Doesn't mean they haven't been givin a quota by the boss man.
Sure they might not make $$ of it. But im sure they have a quota that says "You've been working" or "Do some work bitch". |
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| XtraX |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
(we are recuiting ... www.joineps.ca )
I have my APCAT & ACT on Saturday morning. :D |
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| BLOCKER |
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Originally posted by Rolodex-lk
A friend in Calgary once told me...and I called bullshit on him...that some districts have 'quotas' they gotta make on tickets issued for the year or month, which is why there are more tickets issued during the holidays...and is why some cops will pull people over and then try and figure out something to tag them with (tint, clear corners, exhaust...) any truth to that? Or urban myth.
Quota is one thing to call it, others call it "perfomance measures," now don't quote this line without the explanation (eventhough I know Rob will)
I have never been told I have to issue X amount of tickets (quota), however, My sgt. keeps stats as to how many arrests I make, tickets I write, files I take, ect... If I have a lot of arrest and a lot files written, my sgt. will not care if I wrote a lot of tickets, however, in tern, if I don't have a lot of arrests, taken a lot of files, or written any tickets, my sgt. will ask WTF have you been doing.
Keep in mind, I am speaking strickly from a patrol point of view. In traffic they don't have a quota, the can write as many tickets as they want!:lol: |
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| BLOCKER |
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Originally posted by XtraX
I have my APCAT & ACT on Saturday morning. :D
Good luck! |
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| Rolodex-lk |
| so it's more along the lines of you don't want to be seen as not doing your job. fair enough. Thats what I thought too, it's your guys' job and you gotta do what you gotta do. Cracking down harder int he holidays is not really cracking down, it's taking car of the extra BS the roads see during the holidays. :beer: |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
Quota is one thing to call it, others call it "perfomance measures," now don't quote this line without the explanation (eventhough I know Rob will)
I have never been told I have to issue X amount of tickets (quota), however, My sgt. keeps stats as to how many arrests I make, tickets I write, files I take, ect... If I have a lot of arrest and a lot files written, my sgt. will not care if I wrote a lot of tickets, however, in tern, if I don't have a lot of arrests, taken a lot of files, or written any tickets, my sgt. will ask WTF have you been doing.
Keep in mind, I am speaking strickly from a patrol point of view. In traffic they don't have a quota, the can write as many tickets as they want!:lol:
WTF? |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
WTF?
Aka. There is a quota. Hard or soft limit. However you wanna dance around it. There IS ONE. |
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| Rebound |
The money definately doesn't go to anything important like snow plowing, fixing roads or cleaning winter debris off the streets.:rolleyes:
Funny how these are many of the same reasons that cause these tickets in the first place. |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
Aka. There is a quota. Hard or soft limit. However you wanna dance around it. There IS ONE.
No... I was wondering why he specifically singled me out?
And I don't want the requirements of officer exams to be lax and just let anyone in... But I think there are certain key points which need to be examined on an individual baiss - rather than a blanket policy which is no exceptions. |
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| BLOCKER |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
No... I was wondering why he specifically singled me out?
Just kidding around:stickpoke |
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| TrevorK |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
Aka. There is a quota. Hard or soft limit. However you wanna dance around it. There IS ONE.
I think the best way to put it is that issueing tickets is one part of your job, and they use it as a basis for evaluating how you are doing on your job.
There is no quota, but the job of a supervisor is to determine how well you are doing your job, and if issuing tickets is part of your job then they will use that to determine whether or not you are doing a good job. I would assume that if a patrol officer demonstrates that they are busy with other types of work expected from them, and that this work is more pressing, that they are not expected to reach a certain number of tickets. This eliminates the definition of quota.
It's just like any other job - if you're a movie rental clerk part of your job is collecting late fees, and you will be evaluated, in part, on how many late fees you collect. There are no set rules as to how many to collect, however it is part of your job and you are expected to perform it. |
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| MAPEX |
| why dont u guys obey the traffic laws? i had speeding ticket before but i didn't complain cu'z i deserved it...:beer: |
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| XtraX |
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Originally posted by MAPEX
why dont u guys obey the traffic laws? i had speeding ticket before but i didn't complain cu'z i deserved it...:beer:
Thanks for your input. |
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| Rolodex-lk |
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Originally posted by MAPEX
why dont u guys obey the traffic laws? i had speeding ticket before but i didn't complain cu'z i deserved it...:beer:
Sometimes tis fun just to nail your foot to the ground.
but seriously, thats a valid point. But shit happens. |
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