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| EK9Hatch |
Looks pretty good. But the tail lights are a bit to much of a "flash from the past" for me. Also, I find this problem with all the new Mopar cars...the interiors are ultra cheap looking.
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| AudiInProgress |
Dude. What the fuck are you talking about? My dodge had the nicest leather interior I have ever seen in my life.
This car is pure sex on wheels.
Only thing I don't like about this new Challenger is the tri-face spokes on the rims. |
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| Cheverz |
| Omfg pure sex im buying this god dam thing the first day i can. It's this or the camaro but this one's not out in 2010 so.. Man but yah that thing is perfect. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Dude. What the fuck are you talking about? My dodge had the nicest leather interior I have ever seen in my life.
Rob, get into a import that competes with them. Example....look at the 300C SRT-8's interior and compare it to the new Infinity G35 Sedans interior. Its night and day between the quality and craftsmanship between the two.
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| LeadSled |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Rob, get into a import that competes with them. Example....look at the 300C SRT-8's interior and compare it to the new Infinity G35 Sedans interior. Its night and day between the quality and craftsmanship between the two.
I'd rather have a better powertrain than a better interior, but that's just me. It's hard to feel the dash when your shoulders are pinned to the seat. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by LeadSled
I'd rather have a better powertrain than a better interior, but that's just me. It's hard to feel the dash when your shoulders are pinned to the seat.
I'm not denying the power they have, I was just commenting about the interior.
Obviously you are paying for the power, not quality of the interior. Its a game of give and take I guess.
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| newred |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EK9Hatch
[B]Looks pretty good. Also, I find this problem with all the new Mopar cars...the interiors are ultra cheap looking.
True that.
outside is pretty nice, but the inside looks like shit to me. |
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| Nissan Fanboy |
I hate all these retro flashbacks...
Ford did it with the Mustang and it was cool. Then GM and Dodge had to jump on the bandwagon as well... Come on... be original. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| This is the best automobile to come off the lines in 40 years... |
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| Cheverz |
Isnt this exactly what happend 40 years ago?.. Mustang came out.. Camaro came out... Chargers came out...What your saying preety much states' only the mustang was a good idea..That the camaro should never have came?
All there doing is bringing back the 60's the only thing america know's how to do.
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Originally posted by Nissan Fanboy
I hate all these retro flashbacks...
Ford did it with the Mustang and it was cool. Then GM and Dodge had to jump on the bandwagon as well... Come on... be original.
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| blondy |
It needs fatter tires on the back
Nice to see they kept the 70's look grille
for a new car in this day and age...it simply rocks !!
I'll take it in black |
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| Orzel_pl |
| Si.......fly. I like it. Really digging the tail lights, and the side stance picture is looking fantasticly aggressive. |
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| Spoonin |
wow im not one to say this
but DAYUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......that is sweeeeet |
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| EK9Hatch |
It is nice to see all the old muscle cars being reincarnated though :D
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| Nissan Fanboy |
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Originally posted by Cheverz
Isnt this exactly what happend 40 years ago?.. Mustang came out.. Camaro came out... Chargers came out...What your saying preety much states' only the mustang was a good idea..That the camaro should never have came?
All there doing is bringing back the 60's the only thing america know's how to do.
Where does it say the Mustang was the only good idea?
I said the rest of the American manufacturer's jumped on Ford's dick in terms of bringing back retro styling.
And your comment about the only thing America knowing how to do is bring back the 60's is laughable. |
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| Cheverz |
| shhh.... Just enjoy the car and dont wreck the thread. |
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| EK9Hatch |
It is nice to see some actual "Sports" cars coming from Mopar again.
I'm sick of all these 2,500HP Family sedans with 12 piston Bembos and all that shit.
2 doors FTW.
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| AudiInProgress |
| What new Camaro? Where's the production shots? |
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| blondy |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
What new Camaro? Where's the production shots?
It's like a muscle car war out there !!
2009 Chevy Camaro
2008 Dodge Challenger
2008 Pontiac G8
2008 Mustang Shelby GT 500 KR
Autoblog has spy shots of the Camaro...interior as well
Spy Shots |
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| blondy |
Got this in email today
click on the picture to view video
Challenger Video |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by Orzel_pl
Not production shots, but you get the jest of it.
http://miniburb.files.wordpress.com...cept_camaro.jpg
If there's no production version then I don't believe it.
How can Chevy be in any position to re-release the Camaro with such shitty revenue's recently?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the Camaro... I just don't like the new one. It looks exactly like the Challenger to me.
Why they didn't make it look exactly like a '69 Camaro I'll never understand. |
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| tho_chi |
| Not a big fan of the Hemi Orange but I'd take one. The rear tail lights really keep the classic look of the car IMO. |
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| Orzel_pl |
| I really like the side shot, where you see the cut away portion where the headlights are. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Rob, get into a import that competes with them. Example....look at the 300C SRT-8's interior and compare it to the new Infinity G35 Sedans interior. Its night and day between the quality and craftsmanship between the two.
Jamie
I agree. The interior was a huge disappointment. It doesn't look any different from a Charger, to me, and this is supposed to appeal to a very different crowd than the Charger. The thing is, compare the price of a 300 to a G35. One bases at $26,595 and the other at $39,990. Are you willing to spend $13 grand on 50 horses and a nicer interior? Some are, some aren't. Most people interested in a Dodge aren't. |
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| c.f.169 |
| i really like what they have done with the new challenger, other then the interior, but who needs a luxurious interioir when its a muscle car. i belive dodge did it right going back to the basics with this car, nothing to fancy looking and a shit load of power. |
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| Cheverz |
| The camaro wont be released until 2010 now i got a feeling that thing is gonna be alot better. But dam the challenger looks nice. |
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| crzyone |
I think Dodge started the retro look with the Prowler and then Ford copied them with the Thunderbird. Then the PT cruiser came out which is also retro and now you have the Mustang, HHR, SSR, Challenger, Camaro etc etc.
I love the car, and I don't mind the interior. Someone needs to fire the guy in charge of designing the steering wheels though. They are UGLY! |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
If there's no production version then I don't believe it.
How can Chevy be in any position to re-release the Camaro with such shitty revenue's recently?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the Camaro... I just don't like the new one. It looks exactly like the Challenger to me.
Why they didn't make it look exactly like a '69 Camaro I'll never understand.
Are you kidding me? We've all been watching the development of the Camaro now for at least three years. Every time a designer farts it makes news. We've all seen the pre-production test mules from the Arctic circle to Australia running around. Oh, and Bob Lutz slipping us every update on the development and even sending out a challenge to spy photographers.
And GM is still the World's Biggest Automaker (sold more worldwide than any other maker for 77 years straight). Gm has rebounded scary fast, in the last two years, and last year in particular. It's FoMoCo and Chrysler LLC that are in the shits right now. GM is golden.
They're building it, man.
BTW, VW started the retro trend with the Concept 1 (new beetle) in '94. |
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| Invalid Zero |
| Looks good except for the wheels. How much is this tank supposed to weigh? |
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| Replay |
It doesn't get better than this
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by Invalid Zero
Looks good except for the wheels. How much is this tank supposed to weigh?
A lot! google says 4100lbs.:eek:
And for AIP...
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| anschutz_93 |
| The dodge is a nice looking car... untill you open the hood. I dont know wtf the designers were thinking but all that plastic doesn't belong in the engine bay. |
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| Godzilla |
| i somewhat like the exterior, and i like the power figures. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by anschutz_93
The dodge is a nice looking car... untill you open the hood. I dont know wtf the designers were thinking but all that plastic doesn't belong in the engine bay.
That would make sense, if you'd never seen under the hood of a car costing more than $30G in the last ten years. Nissan is getting extremely bad for this. Plastic is gross under the hood, but I'd prefer it be plastic bottles and fuse covers than a giant plastic shield that covers the only interesting thing under there......... the engine. |
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| Rebound |
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Originally posted by Replay
It doesn't get better than this
+1 for bumblebee |
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| crzyone |
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Originally posted by oldraven
BTW, VW started the retro trend with the Concept 1 (new beetle) in '94.
Hard to be retro when the styling of the car has not changed in the last 70 years.
The "old" beetle was made up until 2003, I would say that they are the retro ones. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| It looks just like the challenger FFS. |
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| Cheverz |
| Was just reading in camaro performer that the actual production camaro in 2010, will look exactly like the concept so to speak if you see one flying down the road your not gonna be able to tell the difference. I wonder why there waiting so long to release it though.. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by crzyone
Hard to be retro when the styling of the car has not changed in the last 70 years.
The "old" beetle was made up until 2003, I would say that they are the retro ones.
No. They're the originals. The design went back to Nazi Germany. I'd call designing a modern interpretation of a decades old car retro. |
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| crzyone |
| I would call it on overdue update, not retro :D |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by crzyone
I would call it on overdue update, not retro :D
The only place on earth keeping it around was Mexico. The rest of the world had moved on in the 70's, including Germany. They did an update in the 60's when they made the rear window bigger. The two cars are so different that you can't call it an update. The New Beetle started the Retro trend. End of story. |
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| Em1 |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Looks pretty good. But the tail lights are a bit to much of a "flash from the past" for me. Also, I find this problem with all the new Mopar cars...the interiors are ultra cheap looking.
Jamie
agreed. i see a ton of chrysler products come through our shop and the interior looks like gm made them. |
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| Godzilla |
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Originally posted by Em1
agreed. i see a ton of chrysler products come through our shop and the interior looks like gm made them.
i'd have to say that GM's interiors are a notch above chryslers. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| You guys are fuckin' retarded... :( |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
You guys are fuckin' retarded... :(
You're in here with us. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Regardless of what people have to say about this car, its going to be one badass ride. People will have to respect it, or they will be seeing a lot of those ugly ass, old looking tail lights.
Jamie |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by oldraven
You're in here with us.
Hug? |
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| LeadSled |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
or they will be seeing a lot of those ugly ass, old looking tail lights
It's almost as though they're copying some old car :eek:
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| EK9Hatch |
^ I agree.
Jamie |
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| NightmareMX6 |
| I kind of like the taillights. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| The more and more I see this car... The sexier it becomes. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
The more and more I see this car... The sexier it becomes.
Agreed. That's because I stopped looking at the interior pictures. |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Looks pretty good. But the tail lights are a bit to much of a "flash from the past" for me. Also, I find this problem with all the new Mopar cars...the interiors are ultra cheap looking.
Jamie
I think the lights make it what it is..... a challenger. Looks pretty good IMHO.
If I didnt hate domestics so much, I would look into owning one. |
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| deathwarden5 |
That interior is the first years run. The 09, I believe, will have a alightly updated interior. Even though its updated, its still a Chrysler. They are supposed to be bringing back the pistol-grip shifter for the manual transmission.
This pic is just speculation. but it's supposed to be somewhat accurate, according to many Mopar boards.
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
New background.:thumbup:
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Originally posted by LeadSled
I'd rather have a better powertrain than a better interior, but that's just me. It's hard to feel the dash when your shoulders are pinned to the seat.
New sig.:thumbup: |
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| blondy |
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Originally posted by deathwarden5
That interior is the first years run. The 09, I believe, will have a alightly updated interior. Even though its updated, its still a Chrysler. They are supposed to be bringing back the pistol-grip shifter for the manual transmission.
This pic is just speculation. but it's supposed to be somewhat accurate, according to many Mopar boards.
I received the '09 brochure a little while back...uploaded the pictures...
You can view it here
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| chris f |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Rob, get into a import that competes with them. Example....look at the 300C SRT-8's interior and compare it to the new Infinity G35 Sedans interior. Its night and day between the quality and craftsmanship between the two.
Jamie
Base 300c, $28,895
Base G35, $39,990
Try somthing alittle closer to compair it to if your going to compair.
The SRT-8 is the same as the upper end G35, you dont pay an extra $20,000 fo a nice interior, you get a huge engine, big brakes and go fast things, |
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| catlin987987 |
| I don't see any of these running 12's maybee mid 13(at least in edmonton) |
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| deathwarden5 |
In general, Chrysler has the worst interiors. Even compared to Ford, they are the worst. I think GM has done great in the past few years in terms of interior styling andd quality. No more hard, cheap plastic. The only thing I dont like about GM, is the doors on the Silverado. The plastic on that feels like is belongs in the bedliner, but other than that, GM is the best for domestics, Chrysler def. the worst.
In terms of performance, thats different. The SRT line owns any other. |
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| euro_ftw |
| oh man oh man!!! thats is the best looking dodge ever.!!!!:bowdown: |
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| euro_ftw |
| and its such a nice price u get 460HP for 40,094$. thats so nice. wow dodge . good job. |
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| BRNIN8 |
WOW!
Only people driving 4 cylinders would take shots at an affordable car with those HP and torque numbers. What's the interior like? Who gives a damn! Hell, I'd ride on a milk crate for that kind of performance! Screw this tactile nonsense, I'll take tire smoke and chirping 2-3 shifts. Oh and I'll get it with a car I just took off the lot. See you in the 12's import fanboys. |
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| oldraven |
I hope they update the interior. They've got to do something to match it to the exterior. More than some stitching, anyway.
I remember posting a poster of the Challenger doing a one wheel peel. A few people commented that the car would have a posi rear when it made production, and that was probably a busted press car. No such luck. I read last week that the car will have an open diff, SRT-8 included, for at least the first year run. This is what happens when a company rushes a product to launch. Everyone complains about the Camaro taking so long to make it to showrooms, and it is taking long, but I'd rather wait a year and buy the complete product. Every guy who runs out and buys a first year Challenger will be severely pissed when the year after there is an updated interior and a posi rear. Meanwhile, since they bought it when they first hit dealerships, they will pay at least %50 markup just because it's year one. So the year later it'll be a better car, and cheaper. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
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Originally posted by oldraven
I hope they update the interior. They've got to do something to match it to the exterior. More than some stitching, anyway.
I remember posting a poster of the Challenger doing a one wheel peel. A few people commented that the car would have a posi rear when it made production, and that was probably a busted press car. No such luck. I read last week that the car will have an open diff, SRT-8 included, for at least the first year run. This is what happens when a company rushes a product to launch. Everyone complains about the Camaro taking so long to make it to showrooms, and it is taking long, but I'd rather wait a year and buy the complete product. Every guy who runs out and buys a first year Challenger will be severely pissed when the year after there is an updated interior and a posi rear. Meanwhile, since they bought it when they first hit dealerships, they will pay at least %50 markup just because it's year one. So the year later it'll be a better car, and cheaper.
Open diff? That f'n blows. |
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| Graphicdude |
| But I am sure it won't take long to purchase an aftermarket POSI or they may already have one available if the diff they are using is already in production. :dunno: |
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| crzyone |
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Originally posted by catlin987987
I don't see any of these running 12's maybee mid 13(at least in edmonton)
I've seen the SRT-8 chargers run low 13s in Edmonton. Don't know if the challenger will be any quicker, but I would not be surprised by high 12s. |
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| euro777 |
my fist venture away from imports will be this car!!!
when i can get my hands on one of these there will be a 2005 350z for sale. The funniest part will be how my old man reacts- when i bought the Z he didnt even care to take it for a burn.....but if i went to visit the rents with one of these i would probably get it back with an empty tank and bald rear tires!!!! |
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| deathwarden5 |
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Originally posted by BRNIN8
WOW!
Only people driving 4 cylinders would take shots at an affordable car with those HP and torque numbers. What's the interior like? Who gives a damn! Hell, I'd ride on a milk crate for that kind of performance! Screw this tactile nonsense, I'll take tire smoke and chirping 2-3 shifts. Oh and I'll get it with a car I just took off the lot. See you in the 12's import fanboys.
I'm not saying its a bad car. I love the Challenger. My favorite Muscle car of the 70's. I'm just sayin that if your producing such a car that is awsome under the hood and amazing on the outside, why go cheap and shitty inside.
Not to mention the fact that first year models were only auto.
Just as it was pointed out before. Dodge really made it look like they rushed this project.
In todays world it isn't unreasonable to expect to get all around quality for $40,000. I'm dont wanna buy a 500hp car that looks like a Kia (not sayin the Challenger looks like a Kia). The same for a 60hp Mercedes. |
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| crzyone |
The 71 challenger has one of the crappiest looking dashes and seats I've seen in a muscle car. Who talks about what the interor looks like when you mention these cars?
Compared to other muscle cars of the day like the 69 Mach 1 the interior is crap. Who cares?
The interior in the new Challenger isn't that bad. What do you need? Leather covered dash and door pannels? Lazy Boy seats? The only thing I see that could use improvement is the steering wheel. |
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| deathwarden5 |
| Thats my point. In the 70's. Everything back then looked like shit, in todays views. We're not talkin the 70's, we're talking today. In todays standards, that's bad. The Mustang came back, they didn't have a problem with at least styling the interior a bit. When the Camaro is released, do you think they are gonna just throw in come seats, a Kia dashboard, and call it a day? I'm not trying to argue the fact that it is a muscle car, with a lot of power, but it is not unreasonable to wan't something that is nice outside, and have the inside match. You guys keep saying "who care what the interior is like when you have all that power". If your buying one in Edmonton, or and city, or town for that matter, how often are you gonna be able to let out that power? Just cause you got a bigger engine, doesn't mean the laws dont mean anything for you. If you buy this, purely for a track car, then fine. |
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| crzyone |
And I'm saying the interior isn't half as bad as some people are making it out to be.
The seats look good, the dash is a little plain, good gauge layout. The auto shifter panel looks a bit odd and the steering wheel belongs in a 1 ton dually truck.
A 6 speed shifter boot will make the center counsel look 10x better. Not sure what you can do with the drivers side steering wheel. Maybe swap in a better looking one that retains an airbag? Get rid of the airbag all together?
If the car had the interior styling, fit and finish of a 5 series BMW or a high end Acura you could bet the price tag would be much higher than it is. I can lower my standards a little on the interior to keep the price down and not sacrifice performance.
As a whole the car will be a bargain. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by crzyone
If the car had the interior styling, fit and finish of a 5 series BMW or a high end Acura you could bet the price tag would be much higher than it is. I can lower my standards a little on the interior to keep the price down and not sacrifice performance.
As a whole the car will be a bargain.
Well said. I still wouldn't buy one. I've never been a huge Mopar guy. |
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| katrink |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
This is the best automobile to come off the lines in 40 years...
Personally I am pretty sure the NSXR is a better car in every way, aside from the passenger thing. But who wants to carry anything more then a hot girl around with them anyway. |
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| euro_ftw |
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Originally posted by blondy
Why the interior is what it is
Jeff and Brian discuss the interior of the production model and what inspirations came from the Dodge Challenger concept
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmfZOV6fU-g
u didnt replay to my pm:eek: |
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| AudiInProgress |
| I don't understand everyone's gripe with the interior? Not a single fucking one of you have sat in the car yet... |
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| euro_ftw |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I don't understand everyone's gripe with the interior? Not a single fucking one of you have sat in the car yet...
hahahaha rob owns. |
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| deathwarden5 |
| Sit in any Chrysler, and it basically the same. Who need the actual car. |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by deathwarden5
Sit in any Chrysler, and it basically the same. Who need the actual car.
And judging from all the current Chrysler interiors (which are awesome) I'm sure the Challenger will be too. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I don't understand everyone's gripe with the interior? Not a single fucking one of you have sat in the car yet...
We have pictures that show what the production car will look like. What more do you need than your eyes to see ugly?
Have you ever discussed a Veyron? You're so lucky to have driven one, since most people have never even seen one. |
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| GOT BOOST |
Meh….
On the outside the car looks good.
My self I am not a fan of retro styling
The interior looks cheap like the rest of the dodge line. :dunno:. |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by oldraven
We have pictures that show what the production car will look like. What more do you need than your eyes to see ugly?
Have you ever discussed a Veyron? You're so lucky to have driven one, since most people have never even seen one.
I don't think anyone was stating their opinion about the aesthetics of the interior of these vehicles... They were claiming the quality would be poor - which you cannot judge from photographs alone. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I don't think anyone was stating their opinion about the aesthetics of the interior of these vehicles... They were claiming the quality would be poor - which you cannot judge from photographs alone.
Gotcha, and I agree. You can see materials, but you can't feel them or measure gap. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
I think a plain basic interior would give it a more "Muscle Car" feel. As the whole car was intended to do.
I personally like it, and think it suits the rest of the car. Having a nice plush, luxurious interior would take away from the "feel" that the car has.
I've always said I would never own another black vehicle, but after looking at the black Challenger pics. I WILL be owning one of these when the Manual transmission is available. |
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| GQsmooth |
| looks quite plain jane to me, wheres the body lines? |
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| blondy |
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Originally posted by GQsmooth
looks quite plain jane to me, wheres the body lines?
It's a crusher so no frills
Imagine it with black stripes :cool: |
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| AudiInProgress |
| I'd hit it! |
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| crzyone |
| The challenger definitly needs a manual transmission... |
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| catlin987987 |
| next year they offer a manual |
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| blondy |
Something else :)
Motortrend
:dunno: don't know why the linkage is not working but it's the front page of Motortrend part way down right side
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Originally posted by crzyone
The challenger definitly needs a manual transmission...
Loool yah you and many others think that !!
I know quite a few who ordered the 08 just to have the "first" It most likely will have a short shelf life with the 09 with 6speed right on its heels...either way they are going to popular...
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by crzyone
The challenger definitly needs a manual transmission...
Not to mention it needs to loose the open dif. |
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| crzyone |
They will get one, and I'm sure the aftermarket will take care of the early open diff cars.
Manual and LSD, 12s easy. |
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