| E-Z Motorsports |
DRAMA Queen Linky:http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=75378
quote: Originally posted by Lukesky
Right now the only main staff member is a certified mechanic, and a couple other odd jobbers for doing car starters, etc. Out of all the places that have been around in the last little bit, and that had alot of hype like Subracing, Apex Modified, etc. have come and gone... yet EZ is still around...
And as far as this issue goes, the first day you came into the shop, ...you signed a work order for the parts ... You also kept calling Kevin and telling him you needed the parts right away, as I was with him during one of the calls... so he even express shipped everything for you.
Now I know alot of shit has gone on in the past with EZ, but that's said and done. There's two sides to every story, as there definitely is with this one. I totally get the fact that you figured out you didn't want the stuff, as I have done many times... but after you signed the piece of paper, you locked yourself in.
Luke
Hello Mr. s2k
quote: Originally posted by s2k
Didn't sign anything. No work was done on the car.
We have and can prove that you indeed have a signed contract and can be posted here if you WISH @ your request with your Mug shot on your Driver's Licence Mr. Wilson Kin Chee Lee AKA s2k
You are the Nephew of Vincient Lee who has a 2007 Nissan Altima with Push Button Start and Smart Key ( Meaning this Car has no Keys ... it is a Keyless vehicle imitating the design of BMW Smart Key feature
Your delay in the quotes and parts was in the result of your uncle Vincient Lee dropping his car to us at our front door WITHOUT NOTICE and Vincient had said his car did not run without the Compustar Pro which we installed and Because he had no brake lights that resulted in the vehicle not able to be driven without the Compustar because of lost in the chained linked circuit to over power our Compustar Pro and was put first inline of yours and many others if he didn't have the Compustar Pro then he would have NOT been able to drive to us and his vehicle would have been towed in BUT again its a factory problem Not ours But we @ E-Z Motorsports still serviced your uncle first and in turn it was a factory defect and Not our fault but that was the reason yours and many other vehicles were put on hold and on top of all things we had Chinese New Year and Kevin had told you this prior to you dropping off your 1992 Mitsubishi GTO
But in turn you Wilson Lee AKA s2k did not have the Respect in the fact that we took care of your uncle first and the fact that it was Chinese New Year and still is for the many Asians we have in our estabishment and we are a Asian based company also the many Charitible functions that we needed to attend to as we do and have for the past 16 years have given back to our community where some of our grass Roots have originated from ... if you were Asian enough you would know or would Respect that but unfortunately we are in Canada and some CBC just do not appreciate where to Respect Roots @ this time of the year and if you did your homework as we are sure you did to come on here to say this seems to be a Repeat of past unsatisfying customers on this board then you would see all of 3 threads in how we @ E-Z Motorsports Respect the Chinese New Year @ this time of year every year since 1992 as it is out Heritage and Tradition
Most importantly you Wilson Lee AKA s2k brought in 4 tires all 4 sizes are 275/40R17
-now on your Fronts you are currently running - 225/45R17 this is a VERY WRONG size for the fronts as Kevin had explained to you that this size is too wide and the side walls would have if mounted the result of this would have BULGED out in front and behind the wheel and because of the widenest the center of your tire would have BULGED up also causing you to hover craft and Kevin REFUSED to mount the 275/40R17 that you have provided but you insisted that you did not have the money to spend for your safety and requsted on more than one occasion asked Kevin REPEATIVELY to Mount the again UNSAFE 275/40R17 onto your fronts ADVAN wheels ... which again Kevin did not do so
- Rears you are currently running - 255/4517 this is a exceptable size for the REARS to mount the 275/40R17
Kevin told you he could of Mounted some winter wheels and tires for you at the right specs within your Budget but you Kept changing your mind and constantly called Kevin 3-4 times a day for a total of 5 days straight and again if you keep up on this board we always advertise that the best times to contact da man of deals is after banker hours between 6:00PM - 9:00 PM but you kept calling in the Noon to 5:00 PM everyday for 5 days and Kevin did give you all quotes within the first 3 days and put you first before his 30K a month Dealership accounts ... if that wasn't servicing you then sorry to have let your expectations down
You had authorized and would change your mind at least 3 times a day every day for the duration of a total of 8 days since Feb.7/2008
We are running a Business and yes we are a LEGIT business and we are not a Carnival so the rides and parts may not be inter changeable like some Carny rides and Games ... you are very binded legally for all your dealings with da man Kevin of E-Z Motorsports
Please do NOT try to TWIST this into making us @ E-Z Motorsports being the Bad Guys ... your friend is also lucky that da man did not booot him out of the shop with his PRETENDING to be on the phone when he was in fact trying to Record Kevin's conversation with you ... But listen back carefully as Kevin had stated to you and your Recording device that you in fact do have a written and signed work order ... please ask us Nicely or Not ........to post your Mug Shot here for all to see :fingersx:
FYi we also have you and your friends on Camera so SMILE next time you are in E-Z Motorsports and don't forget Wilson Lee AKA s2k you were also on Camera ... haha on our Recoded Device hehe........ when you signed the work order!
Hope this helps Clarify the :drama:
If we @ E-Z Motorsports was indeed fictioned into Reality then 16 years Long and 16 Years Strong since 1992 would be a Fairy tale
From your Online Represenatives for and @ E-ZMS... The Team :blue:
As for Lukesky........ Kevin and Luke have been comfortable with each other enough to discuss things only the 2 of them can only Relate to each other ........ let us finish off what you Haters want to say or will post up can we say FAGS!!!
Lukesky is Not part of the "Crew" or Team @ E-Z Motorsports but that does not mean that he will not be in the near Future as the ball is in Lukesky court when it comes down to a final decision ........ if you do a search on Lukesky you will see that in the past Lukesky was on the other side of the fence
But now Lukesky has found for himself as many others have the real truth in how Kevin really is a Genuine soul as long as you do not set out to Discredit da man of deals
As many of you have had many dealings with Kevin @ E-Z Motorsports and have great deals but the moment there is a Negative Feedback you all are 2 Face ... it takes a lot to be on the defending side so this... Props and Respects goes out to Lukesky ........ as many of you may believe what you want to Lukesky did his posting on his own without influence ... just check out the first couple of post in this thread of Lukesky and you will see the truth to this but again 780 Haters will believe what you will and see you all when you need a part and when everyone else is CLOSED you know there is only 1 shop in E-Town that does not sleep and services the ones in need 365 days a year ... 366 including Leap Year and this year this month February 2008 is a Leap Year yo!
It is now 4:28 AM and guess what Kev. and the boys are working their nuts off ........ thanks for the plug 780tuners
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| daytonagord |
if he signed, and then the parts turned out to be more then originaly thought with shipping ect... you have no right to hold his car for parts that are not in or on that car.
if no labour was performed, you cannot place a lein on that car. I think him paying these shipping charges that got the parts there fast for him, is a resonable thing for him to do and you to accept, the parts were ordered before he had a confirmed quote.
so I think a fair resolution is he pay these shipping fees and you give him his car back. then at least when this topic comes up again they can say there was a fair resolution to the problem and neither side look like dicks
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every thing I have herd about your buisness and practices has been negative. so do you like having that rep, or would you like to change that into something that might make you a little more trustworth into those of us who have not come to your shop and at the moment very likely would not with everything seen, herd and read about your buisness. |
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| svt28 |
quote:
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every thing I have herd about your buisness and practices has been negative. so do you like having that rep, or would you like to change that into something that might make you a little more trustworth into those of us who have not come to your shop and at the moment very likely would not with everything seen, herd and read about your buisness. [/B]
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| JeepGirl |
quote: Originally posted by E-Z Motorsports
DRAMA Queen Linky:http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=75378
Hello Mr. s2k
We have and can prove that you indeed have a signed contract and can be posted here if you WISH @ your request with your Mug shot on your Driver's Licence Mr. Wilson Kin Chee Lee AKA s2k
You are the Nephew of Vincient Lee who has a 2007 Nissan Altima with Push Button Start and Smart Key ( Meaning this Car has no Keys ... it is a Keyless vehicle imitating the design of BMW Smart Key feature
Please do NOT try to TWIST this into making us @ E-Z Motorsports being the Bad Guys ... your friend is also lucky that da man did not booot him out of the shop with his PRETENDING to be on the phone when he was in fact trying to Record Kevin's conversation with you ... But listen back carefully as Kevin had stated to you and your Recording device that you in fact do have a written and signed work order ... please ask us Nicely or Not ........to post your Mug Shot here for all to see :fingersx:
FYi we also have you and your friends on Camera so SMILE next time you are in E-Z Motorsports and don't forget Wilson Lee AKA s2k you were also on Camera ... haha on our Recoded Device hehe........ when you signed the work order!
From your Online Represenatives for and @ E-ZMS... The Team :blue:
DRAMA Queen Linky:http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=75378
Personal Information Protection Act, S.A. 2003, c. P-6.5
http://www.pipa.gov.ab.ca/index.cfm
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Part 2: Protection of Personal Information
Division 5: Disclosure of Personal Information
Section 20: Disclosure without consent
7(1) Except where this Act provides otherwise, an organization shall not, with respect to personal information about an individual,
(a) collect that information unless the individual consents to the collection of that information,
(b) collect that information from a source other than the individual unless the individual consents to the collection of that information from the other source,
(c) use that information unless the individual consents to the use of that information, or
(d) disclose that information unless the individual consents to the disclosure of that information.
(2) An organization shall not, as a condition of supplying a product or service, require an individual to consent to the collection, use or disclosure of personal information about an individual beyond what is necessary to provide the product or service.
(3) An individual may give a consent subject to any reasonable terms, conditions or qualifications established, set, approved by or otherwise acceptable to the individual.
2003 cP-6.5 s7
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Section 59: Offences and penalties
59(1) Subject to subsections (3) and (4), a person commits an offence if the person
(a) wilfully collects, uses or discloses personal information in contravention of Part 2;
(b) wilfully attempts to gain or gains access to personal information in contravention of this Act;
(c) disposes of or alters, falsifies, conceals or destroys personal information or any record relating to personal information, or directs another person to do so, with an intent to evade a request for access to the information or the record;
(d) obstructs the Commissioner or an authorized delegate of the Commissioner in the performance of the Commissioner’s duties, powers or functions under this Act;
(e) knowingly makes a false statement to the Commissioner, or knowingly misleads or attempts to mislead the Commissioner, in the course of the Commissioner’s performance of the Commissioner’s duties, powers or functions under this Act;
(f) fails to comply with an order made by the Commissioner under this Act.
(2) A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is liable,
(a) in the case of an individual, to a fine of not more than $10 000, and
(b) in the case of a person other than an individual, to a fine of not more than $100 000.
(3) No person is liable to prosecution for an offence against this or any other Act by reason only of complying with a requirement of the Commissioner under this Act.
(4) Neither an organization nor an individual is guilty of an offence under this Act if it is established to the satisfaction of the court that the organization or individual, as the case may be, acted reasonably in the circumstances that gave rise to the offence.
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| Icipher |
| $10,000 fine for breaching the privacy of an individual... Ouch. |
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| Graphicdude |
| Good job EZ, way to show your lack of professionalism. You should be ashamed of yourself. You just hurt your business. This negative publicity and your retort isn't helping matters. |
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| joshturbo |
| who cares sounds like someone who didnt want to pay from the begin , deal with it personal , not on the internet |
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| daytonagord |
well I can say Ez did not do anywork the customer said he didn't want after the quote was made.
the customer wants his car back, and you can't charge him for parts that have not been installed in the car. so charge him teh 1 hour for checking the car, the hour and a half for the tires or whatever. and let him take his car,
it seems very simple to me |
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| TRD_2 |
quote: Originally posted by daytonagord
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every thing I have herd about your buisness and practices has been negative. so do you like having that rep, or would you like to change that into something that might make you a little more trustworth into those of us who have not come to your shop and at the moment very likely would not with everything seen, herd and read about your buisness.
quote: Originally posted by Graphicdude
Good job EZ, way to show your lack of professionalism. You should be ashamed of yourself. You just hurt your business. This negative publicity and your retort isn't helping matters.
I too was as skeptical as you, but if you go find out for yourself than you will determine that every situation or negative experience is a issolated incidient
If EZ was of the negativity that a lot of users here say they are than they would not still be in business since 1992 going on 16 years now
Read between the lines and find out for yourself as many have or they would not be dominating the feedback section with 100 plus posts more than any other sponsored shop on this board let alone other shops combined that are not sponsors can't even get the 100 plus posstive feedbacks on this board
Yes you may try to dispute my stat on EZ combined 100 plus as ya they should get that kinda positive feedback cause they've been around 16 years but just look at the last 3 or 4 months the dates and compare those dates to the other shops that are sponsors and compare them to the shops combined whom are not sponsors and you will see a clear finding ... its obvious that EZ dominates
If you need a part EZ will have it in stock as always ... and tisk, tisk, tisk the traffic and business that these threads drum up for EZ is priceless
http://forums.780tuners.com/forumdi...amp;forumid=110
you think its easy to get the positive feedback when there is so many Haters on this board that talks shit and never had the experience of dealing with Kevin or any of the staff members there
Most users on here get in and get out once they get what they need not like the huge post counts of hundreds and in the thousands users who just sit behind the keyboard and just Hate on EZ
But you know what even the Haters go to EZ on a regular basis and straight up lie about trashing, dissing, hating, flaming you get the point
Look at the feedbakc it is not only from low post count users... there is a lot of huge post count senior members who also shops at EZ and even Moderators of this board gets their rides worked on at EZ
It all comes down to everyone one time or another will have to go into EZ for something weather a part or work on their rides ... look at al the other shops that have come and gone EZ is still standing
You think running a shop on Calgary Trail is FREE???
This only shows that EZ can produce the business legitamately ... why would you be illegit on Calgary Trail? ... you know EZ has 2 more locations but the other 2 location is not open to the public and they could easily of moved thier retail to the industrial area if they wanted to be shady
The boys and girls at EZ will always pull throw time and time and time after time, over and over, again and again
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| daytonagord |
I am not saying EZ is the shit of the shit...but I am saying they have had more bad experiances then most other.
of course not everyone has had bad or they would be closed.
still the way I see them handling this customer is very poor and will not help their rep.
I would not go there myself, but then that is based on what I have heard on 780 and the cars I have3 seen at shows, and the work did not impress me.
I work in the industrie so I hear alot of "this shop did this" "that shop sucks" "so and so ripped me off"
and more often then not it is about %50 true, and the other 50% was just the issue was poorly handled by that buisness making the customers perception of the issue to be much worse.
so basicaly what I am trying to say is EVERY shop will have confrontations and so on...it is how those issues are handled which makes the great shops stand above the others which are just the same as any other shop
this thread is an example IMO to poorly handling a issue.
a compromise is more then likely possible where the customer will pay a small part of the parts you ordered in for him and he did not get installed. and if you are in good standing with your part supplier, unopened parts should eb able to be returned for refund minus the shipping costs |
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| Rich_A |
quote: Originally posted by daytonagord
well I can say Ez did not do anywork the customer said he didn't want after the quote was made.
the customer wants his car back, and you can't charge him for parts that have not been installed in the car. so charge him teh 1 hour for checking the car, the hour and a half for the tires or whatever. and let him take his car,
it seems very simple to me
Good evening, you must be stupid.
If you sign for a shop to buy something and do work - then don't pay - you can go fuck yourself as far as leaving with your cars go.
There are laws to protect consumers but there are also laws to protect businesses. |
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| daytonagord |
quote: Originally posted by Rich_A
Good evening, you must be stupid.
If you sign for a shop to buy something and do work - then don't pay - you can go fuck yourself as far as leaving with your cars go.
There are laws to protect consumers but there are also laws to protect businesses.
he wants to pay for the labor already done, and the parts already on his car. but does not want to pay for the parts not installed on his car. so I have no idea what you are talking about.
he does not want to pay $1000 for parts not in his car, not to mension parts which are alot less then that to buy at full retail from the dealer. he said he was willing to pay the shipping charges of those parts as once he was given the price decided not to get that work done. I though that was fair for him to pay the extra shipping for those parts that EZ had shipped in.
and I know all about the laws to do with shops and customers. I have been a service advisor, and am a licensed tech. |
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| daytonagord |
anyway I see there was a resolution so I think this matter can be put to rest. and really that is the important thing that there was a resolution.
I have no idea what was done to resolve it and that does not really matter. But I would suggest that you guys be a little more professional in the way you addressed the matter in the public eye. mainly with the personal information that was posted. |
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| Tech2 |
| I feel embarrassed about posts like those coming out of this shop on so many different levels. It's just a dirty feeling I'll want to avoid. Well, continue avoiding it. Maybe some thuggin youngsters like that atmosphere for their money. |
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