| HKSpowers1 |
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| BLK_LBL |
wow, it makes ya think. I remember watching all that stuff take place on CNN that morning. I was sick that day, I remember watching, and seeing the second plane crash into the towers :(
I thought i saw parts of the plane at the pentagon, but thinking back, maybe I didnt. The GOV may be saying its a plane to cover up the fact that somehow somebody got an explosive device into the "secure" pentagon. Maybe the gov doesnt want the people to know that this happend in a place that supposed to be one of the most secure compounds.
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| BlueTurboEGG |
It all sounds like a typical cover up to me.
Just like the twin towers.
There seems to be horrifyingly mounting proof that the twin towers fell from something else, not just the 747's crashing into them.
And what is the US Governemnt doing?, rather than mounting a massive search for the truth, they are rather cutting up the evidence and selling it off somewhere.
Even the Firefighter Engineers haven't had a chance to see much of the evidence.
Where was I during all of this?, feeling sick too. But I was setting up televisions across the campus covering the event because I felt that everyone should know. what was happening. I censored because someone beleived that the student body should not be exposed to this type of news on the grounds that it "Causes unhappiness on the faces of the students" |
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| Anonymoose |
| After just checking on google the plane was American Airlines Flight #77. Now, if you just went and created a flight number I'm pretty sure someone would've stumbled onto it by now. |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
Well, I'm just looking for proof the plane.
Where did it go?, you don't get a clean-up crew to remove something like that overnight...
just food for thought. |
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| Pro Drag |
| Ha ha ha, so I am not crazy after all. Time to collect on some bets. :bigthumbup: |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Jul 14 2003, 11:44 AM
Just like the twin towers.
There seems to be horrifyingly mounting proof that the twin towers fell from something else, not just the 747's crashing into them.
BINGO! |
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| BlueBlur |
bet bet...bet bet..
yes you're crazy.
BTE: I understood it was a bomb, not a plane...
at first didn't they say, it was a small plane.. cessna/lear jet sized that hit the pentagon?? |
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| Insomniac |
| What are some of the theory's on the twin towers? |
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| BLK_LBL |
quote:
QUOTE (BlueTurboEGG @ Jul 14 2003, 11:44 AM)
Just like the twin towers.
There seems to be horrifyingly mounting proof that the twin towers fell from something else, not just the 747's crashing into them.
I suggest you check out the show that was on TLC a while ago "the anatomy of the collapse"
Basically, when the towers were built, they were made to handle a crash from the largest plane that existed. Back when the towers were made, the largest commercial plane was small by todays standards. This was once factor that led to the collapse. The sheer weight and size of the plane was not factored when the towers were built, because a plane of this size did not yet exist.
The second factor was the fireproofing used on the steel gurders. After checking the remaining steel out, they came to the conclusion the fireproofing burnt off due to the extreme head created by the burning jet fuel. which, once again wasnt factored in when the towers were built. The fireproofing melted off, and exposed the steel, which was weakend and then failed.
the third main reason was the way the building was constructed. It was a "open floor" design, with all the elevators in the center of the building. basically the floor wasnt strong enough.
it was a cool show, pretty entertaining. |
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| TheWask |
| Some people here watch X-Files way to much! |
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| Insomniac |
| You know, i'm looking at picture #3 and wondering where all of the debris from a bomb is... when builidings blow up, shit flies outwards. Why is the lawn free of said shit? |
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| BlueTurboEGG |
| Wierd huh?, just too many weird things, which leads me to pic #4... |
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| Spike7ss |
| Why is there what looks like about a 5 ton truck sittin in front of the "attacked section" which would be on the lawn? and why is it in flames and sooo close to the pentagon???and also, why does it look like it blew up???check #7 on the right hand side in the corner, look for the burning truck :bigthumbup: |
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| TheWask |
Just another case of someone manipulating the facts to suit thier case.
Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour* only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?
*250 mph when landing, 600 mph in flight
How do they know it was travelling 250 miles an hour? They got that number because that is what the plan lands at. Not what the plan lands(crashes) at when it is not being piloted correctly, and slammed into the ground.
"Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?"
From the pictures every floor is out. What the f@ck are they talking about?
Also the 14.9 yards(45 feet) tall plane is measured at the tip of the rear tail. Which obviously didn't come no where near the building. I wonder why they didn't mention that ;) Also the plane is 47.3 meters long, not 51.7. And the wingspan is 38 meters not 41.6. Cant take anything serious from this site when they have thier specs wrong.
"Can you explain what happened to the wings of the aircraft and why they caused no damage?"
They did cause damage if you look. The plan has to stop at some point, is it really immpossible that the plan may have stopped before the wings cause more damage.
"Can you find the aircraft's point of impact?"
Can you show us a picture that is not covered with water and smoke?
The only thing to me that shows a plan did not crash there is the grass isn't black, and torn from the plane. Then again I am not an expert, no one here is, and no one who made that site is close either.
Good thread though :bigthumbup: |
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| redbaron303 |
I just think it's creepy and there's something not being told to the public by the Bush administration...
It sucks as to what happened, and it sucks even more if the families of those who were lost aren't told what really happened so they're hating on the wrong people or the wrong reasons!
I know when I saw that plane hit the wto on tv, I was in awe... oh shit what just happened kind of awe! I still am, and still can't believe the effect that bs attack had on everything. I would bet it had something to do w/ revenge on a prior bush admin. or trying to attack this one.... :blink: |
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| BLK_LBL |
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Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour* only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?
the pentagon, like the Towers, was built with terrorist acts in mind. thats why the pentagon is built in rings, with the most important offices in the very innermost ring. Im not positive, but im guessing between each ring there is lots of reenforcement, so a blast would have minimal impact on inner rings.
I think stuff like this is pretty interesting. The US gov likes to hide as much as possible from its residents. Up until the mid 90's the US gov denied the very existance of the military testing site Area 51. They finally had to admit it existed when satellite images clearly showed it. And because the area51 workers were filing lawsuits against the Gov.
lousy amerians :thefinger: |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| it's obviously all a huge insurance conspiracy coupled with the gov't and c.i.a to make money and a good excuse to raise insurance premiums nation-wide by 15% :gay: |
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| stealth |
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Originally posted by BLK_LBL@Jul 14 2003, 12:39 PM
I think stuff like this is pretty interesting. The US gov likes to hide as much as possible from its residents. Up until the mid 90's the US gov denied the very existance of the military testing site Area 51. They finally had to admit it existed when satellite images clearly showed it. And because the area51 workers were filing lawsuits against the Gov.
lousy amerians :thefinger:
What tests would they run? Like alien shit, all i know is area 51 is someshit to due with aliens and ufos. |
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| TheWask |
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Originally posted by stealth@Jul 15 2003, 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by BLK_LBL@Jul 14 2003, 12:39 PM
I think stuff like this is pretty interesting. The US gov likes to hide as much as possible from its residents. Up until the mid 90's the US gov denied the very existance of the military testing site Area 51. They finally had to admit it existed when satellite images clearly showed it. And because the area51 workers were filing lawsuits against the Gov.
lousy amerians_ :thefinger:
What tests would they run? Like alien shit, all i know is area 51 is someshit to due with aliens and ufos.
They say that is where reverse engineering of alien ships are done. Like the ship from the Roswell crash. they say they also keep the UFO from that crash at Area 51.
They also test military planes there aswell. Like the stealth fighters and bombers and the blackstar, shit like that. |
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| v8slayer |
Well all you geniuses have you ever heard of compressive heat fracture or impact resolution.
If you understood any of these things you would know where the plane went and why the towers fell.
Oh by the way there is footage of the plane hitting the pentagon.
I hope they just keep a good foot hold in Afganistan , Iraq and the gulf so they can continue with long term clean up(clean out) plans.
This world will be a safer place without innocents being killed going to school or at daycares.
I hope they exterminate all terroists and those who back them. |
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| Mekanik22 |
| They say the twin towers fell because they metal heated up very hot after the jet fuel exploded which cause structural damage. After holding a great amount of weight, the metal became weak and collapsed. One floor fell and hit the floor below it, which hit the floor below it, and so on, until the tower was completely on the ground. |
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| v8slayer |
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Originally posted by Mekanik22@Jul 14 2003, 05:50 PM
They say the twin towers fell because they metal heated up very hot after the jet fuel exploded which cause structural damage. After holding a great amount of weight, the metal became weak and collapsed. One floor fell and hit the floor below it, which hit the floor below it, and so on, until the tower was completely on the ground.
See how easy that was! |
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| BLK_LBL |
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What tests would they run? Like alien shit, all i know is area 51 is someshit to due with aliens and ufos.
The workers in area 51 are suing the Gov because of the Burn'n'bury they were forced to do on the site. They had loads of toxic chemicals, and dug trenches, then set it on fire. Toxic gas was released, and caused skin problems for the workers = Lawsuit.
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They say the twin towers fell because they metal heated up very hot after the jet fuel exploded which cause structural damage. After holding a great amount of weight, the metal became weak and collapsed. One floor fell and hit the floor below it, which hit the floor below it, and so on, until the tower was completely on the ground.
yup, thats how it fell. Read my previous post on the first page, it explains alot more WHY the towers fell.
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Well all you geniuses have you ever heard of compressive heat fracture or impact resolution.
If you understood any of these things you would know where the plane went and why the towers fell.
sorry man, im not claiming to be a genius, im just sharing what I know. compressive heat fracture or impact resolution doesnt explain why the towers fell. buildings have fireproofing that is supposed to handle fires, but cannot handle the heat from burning jet fuel. fault #1. Fault #2, the sheer weight of the plane. that plane didnt exist when the towers were built, so the towers werent intended for that kind of weight to be supported on the floors. and lastly you are right, the heat killed the steel and finally the whole tower fell, one story onto another to the ground.
Another thing that wasnt too goo about the towers was the fact that the elevators were all in the center of the tower. The planes went right though, and cut off any elevator or stairwell to the lower floors, making it impossible for anyone to get down. |
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| sunfiregt |
| Why are they so damn supicious of the gravel covering the lawn? It was probably for the large cranes and trucks for the clean up. Or was it to cover up the Aliens bodies that were thrown out of the building when the plane crashed????????? :unsure: Knowone will ever know the truth. |
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| Xpnsve |
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Originally posted by BlueTurboEGG@Jul 14 2003, 09:44 AM
And what is the US Governemnt doing?, rather than mounting a massive search for the truth, they are rather cutting up the evidence and selling it off somewhere.
Even the Firefighter Engineers haven't had a chance to see much of the evidence.
Rest assured, every inch of rubble is still being meticulously scrutinized for evidence.
The towers fell due to the massive amount of aircraft fuel being dumped down the main structure.
Are they selling pieces? I haven't heard of that. |
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| RF134A |
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Originally posted by BLK_LBL@Jul 14 2003, 07:46 PM
sorry man, im not claiming to be a genius, im just sharing what I know. compressive heat fracture or impact resolution doesnt explain why the towers fell. buildings have fireproofing that is supposed to handle fires, but cannot handle the heat from burning jet fuel. fault #1. Fault #2, the sheer weight of the plane. that plane didnt exist when the towers were built, so the towers werent intended for that kind of weight to be supported on the floors. and lastly you are right, the heat killed the steel and finally the whole tower fell, one story onto another to the ground.
Another thing that wasnt too goo about the towers was the fact that the elevators were all in the center of the tower. The planes went right though, and cut off any elevator or stairwell to the lower floors, making it impossible for anyone to get down.
I saw that Discovery Channel special, too. They said that the architects only planned for a 727 (largest plane at that time) hitting the towers at or near the top with minimal fuel. They also didn't plan for 30,000 lbs of jet fuel exploding and vaporizing parts of the infrastructure. Fewer people would've been killed if the stairs were designed properly, ie not all in the center and connected. Since 1 floor had the stairs blocked, every other floor above it is also blocked. Properly placement is apparently in the corners with redundant exits. |
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