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fugumerkur
Im sure anyone here that enjoys electronica as part of their musical preference has heard from someone they work with, friends or just someone random in general that Electronica or other forms or "Techno" music has or is the worst form of music out there along side say,, country music.

Now of these people that have said this. How many have listened to Techno in a club with a packed dance floor to experience the true nature of how it works.
Probably not too many. It seems that either they had a bad experience or listened to some tossed together garbage on the bounce or internet limewire mix. Or they are just too stubborn to actually listen to a techno track.

Since this is such an open Forum and people tend to just say whatever I want to hear what YOU think of electronica and your experience with it as to why you hate it or love it.?

Do you feel it is just a rip off of all the other forms of music or do you feel that it has had an effect on the other forms of music.?

Prudz_lude
honestly i think you are just out of the loop. Welcome to Alberta, the music is still pretty small but over the last few years it has been growning rapidly here. If you have not realized we have been getting tons of huge shows and the crowds are showing their love and support.

Go around the rest of the world and this music dominates the marjority of radio stations. In Europe they have countless stations that are only trance. Specialized stations that revolve around specific sounds of trance.

It is just Alberta, don't let haters get you down. They are the ones missing out on the fun. If you were at Tiesto this year you would have seen how sick that crowd was. Easily the best show of the year imo. This year we have already has some really good shows. Of course they can be read up in the Upcoming DJ events in the entertainment section.

I like how my friend put it "it is modern classical music, the equvilant of classical music of the past" What he means is it revolves around the exact kind of structure that claisscal music does. If you ever actually listen and study both you will realize both use the exact effects for uplifting human emotions. It is pretty crazy. That is why you can get crazy chills listening to trance. It puts your body in a state of trance, or does for me for the most part :thumbup: And to all the haters i don't mean only when you are fucked up on ectasy. You don't need to do drugs for this music to sound great. That is one of the stupid sterotypes society labels this music with but that is a whole other debate.

Prudz_lude
For me personally it is my main form of music. I grew up listening to music like the beatles, david bowie, etc, then moved on to rock/alternative/indy and a bit of rap.

I can still remember the first time i heard a real good trance song, not some piece of shit techno song that everyone associates the music with. It was 7 years ago. I found it so incredible. It brought chills up my spine for 3 months straight. DJ Dean - Malaria hahaha (i know that shit is so old school now). From that moment on i started listening to the music all the time.

I have honestly dropped almost all other forms of music for trance. It is just way to good. There is something about the music that can calm anxiety, uplift your mood, relate to your constant changing moods, and just overall make you feel great unlike most other forms of music. There are so many different types of trance. Enough to fill all your musical needs for all your moods. I am sure you see where i am getting to. I am addicted to the stuff hahaha.

I think the biggest issue is the sterotypes of club drugs having to be used to enjoy the music. I disagree even though i am aware there are still many people who use drugs when going to shows but with ecstacy it is a simple fact. You use that drug and pretty much every type of music becomes amazing.

Those are some of my thoughts.

jordanturbo
sandstorm is the shit i have just that one song on repeat on my ipod so the party never stops, though I just heard this sweet song by scatman john called im a scat man, hoolllyy shit i think its my new fav

fugumerkur
quote:
Originally posted by jordanturbo
sandstorm is the shit i have just that one song on repeat on my ipod so the party never stops, though I just heard this sweet song by scatman john called im a scat man, hoolllyy shit i think its my new fav


Your my hero. FAG

:edited to add the word - FAG

onestepback
Daft Punk is sweet. Probably one of my top 5 fav. bands. I either listen to metal, or electronica music while I work out. :thumbup:

iLLlegal
the majority of what I listen to is electronic music, but i really like the more hard dirrty sounding house and stuff like justice and digitalism, or boys noize. my favorite artist by far would be MSTRKRFT ive been following them since the beginning and one of the people in it are from death from above 1979, which are amazing.

Im not a huge fan of trance and techno but I do agree that trance does get you going but it has to be a club honestly cuz i get board of it fast. so i really cant stand tiesto and paul oakenfold... and thats what everyone thinks is the genre which is stupid. All my friends get their fix of electric stuff from me and i recently started to learn how to DJ and produce and I don't think the people that make this kind of music get the respect they deserve, it really does require music knowledge and skill to make something really good.

not to say this is all i listen to, korn and led zep where in my cd player yesterday.

and yes daft punk is awesome but if i have to listen to someone else sample them im gunna lose it.

iLLlegal
oh and go listen to some stuff at the club its a whole other story. if you're drunk even better :D . Tiga was off the hook when he came here and same with MSTRKRFT.

my buddy dj's at club 9 so they play some good shit. and I think Halo on saturdays has house music i still gotta check that place out

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by iLLlegal
oh and go listen to some stuff at the club its a whole other story. if you're drunk even better :D . Tiga was off the hook when he came here and same with MSTRKRFT.

my buddy dj's at club 9 so they play some good shit. and I think Halo on saturdays has house music i still gotta check that place out



yah halo plays house music on saturdays. If you are into seeing some of edmontons trance dj's there are some good ones that play at the Y after hours club. Empire plays a ton of this music as well and is the venue for most of the dj's.

I am with you with dj'ing and producing. It takes some skill to be good at it and be able to produce some solid beats. I plan to take it up in september after i am able to save up for some nice equipment over summer.

MSTRKRFT :thumbup: just got The Looks a month ago. I find them to have a sort of weird sound to them haha.

bananaboat
Electronica is what I usually listen to...

But, while I got into with trance (Paul Oakenfold back in the 90s when he was still really pushing the scene forward) I think that trance as a genre is starting to get pretty stale.

Nowadays, the big trance stars of old are either getting boring or they're being forced to branch into other genres of music, like progressive and house. Pure trance is for chumps now. The really good progressive shit incorporates elements from different genres to make things interesting.

Look at how G&D work a ton of indie rock and 80s synthpop into their music and how Deadmau5 works electro house in with trance, or even Blake Jarrell's remixes of mainstream modern pop. This is what keeps electronica interesting. But if you look at Tiesto's last few albums (everything from Just Be onwards) it's all the same old trance garbage recycled over and over again. Same with Paul Oakenfold. The guy that was once regarded as a musical god and credited with popularizing trance is now doing pathetic shows that even an E'd out ravetwat wouldn't dance to.

Why this huge rant? Well, I think for the uninitiated, their real first exposure into EDM is with shitty music like Oakenfold and Tiesto, so it's no wonder they find electronica repetitive and uninteresting. Last time I went to a DJ event, it was Deadmau5...I brought along a friend who wasn't into EDM at all, but because I showed him some GOOD electronica, he was made into a convert. Buddy started asking me to send him songs and wanted to tag along for future events.

So if you're not into electronica yet, the next big show is on March 22nd. Armin van Buuren, Blake Jarrell, and Sander van Doorn. Those guys are all top notch and will play good electronica. Other than the fact that it's being held at Edmonton Event Centre and that it's a damned rave, it should be a good show and a good intro into EDM.

bananaboat
And Deadmau5's resample of Daft Punk's HBFS is amazing. Dare I say better than the original too.

midnite
Got into it when a friend sent me a bunch of underworld, orbital, juno reactor, etc.. tracks back in like 95-96.

Did the rave thing in the late 90s until the scene changed.

There are only certain events I will still go to, like Motion Notion, Shambhala, but that's mostly because I have had a lot of influential Psy in my early years.

Jayturbo
I hate that shit soooooo much

I just cant listen to it, very annoying, to me its like backround noise, kinda like when the TV is on the snow channel.

I usually make fun of people who listen to it!

Its all about the emo/punk scene. The Almost is the shit.

bananaboat
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
I hate that shit soooooo much

I just cant listen to it, very annoying, to me its like backround noise, kinda like when the TV is on the snow channel.

I usually make fun of people who listen to it!

Its all about the emo/punk scene. The Almost is the shit.

The fact that music to you is about "the scene" and not music itself shows what a poser you are. In fact, emo and punk are two very different types of music; their only commonality is that "the scene" for both types of music generally comprises kids looking to identify with a certain stereotype. Punk is a purposeful form of music with anti-establishment themes. Emo, on the other hand, doesn't mean much at all. It's a term that encompasses any indie that sounds like it's crying. It's more often used to describe a style of dressing and a way of acting.

AudiInProgress
BECAUSE IT'S GAY!

Enough said.

Seriously... And going to a "club with a packed dance floor to experience the full effect of it" is even fucking gayer. Seriously.

You make me sick.

Slit your wrists.

jordanturbo
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Your my hero. FAG

:edited to add the word - FAG



haha coming from the guy that drives an ulgy slow ford haha

ohhh i get it

Ford's Are Gay

best responce eva

AudiInProgress
quote:
Originally posted by jordanturbo
haha coming from the guy that drives an ulgy slow ford haha

ohhh i get it

Ford's Are Gay

best responce eva



There's no "C" in the word RESPONSE... Asshole.

jordanturbo
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
There's no "C" in the word RESPONSE... Asshole.


awww ur sooo smart you are my idol

Ayeso
I listen to a large variety of electronic music, I also get the "oh techno" response from a large group of people.

I like mostly Trance, Some house. and Industrial...

I also listen to almost every other genre of music though, so i don't strictly listen to electronic. But then again most music has some electronic roots to it.

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by bananaboat
The fact that music to you is about "the scene" and not music itself shows what a poser you are. In fact, emo and punk are two very different types of music; their only commonality is that "the scene" for both types of music generally comprises kids looking to identify with a certain stereotype. Punk is a purposeful form of music with anti-establishment themes. Emo, on the other hand, doesn't mean much at all. It's a term that encompasses any indie that sounds like it's crying. It's more often used to describe a style of dressing and a way of acting.


LOL look fucktard, i just used the "scene" as a refernce to the music, sounds to me llke you are a lot more into the scene than I am, seeing as I didnt know any of the shit you just said.

The only thing I know about emo is this, emo girls turn me on, emo guys look gay. Thats about al I need to know.

RangerMan
well lets get it straight that it beats country..lol

the music is pretty good for working out too..thats why i like it, apart from the fact that underground electronic parties (concerts) usually have hot women..

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
honestly i think you are just out of the loop. Welcome to Alberta, the music is still pretty small but over the last few years it has been growning rapidly here. If you have not realized we have been getting tons of huge shows and the crowds are showing their love and support.

Go around the rest of the world and this music dominates the marjority of radio stations. In Europe they have countless stations that are only trance. Specialized stations that revolve around specific sounds of trance.

It is just Alberta, don't let haters get you down. They are the ones missing out on the fun. If you were at Tiesto this year you would have seen how sick that crowd was. Easily the best show of the year imo. This year we have already has some really good shows. Of course they can be read up in the Upcoming DJ events in the entertainment section.

I like how my friend put it "it is modern classical music, the equvilant of classical music of the past" What he means is it revolves around the exact kind of structure that claisscal music does. If you ever actually listen and study both you will realize both use the exact effects for uplifting human emotions. It is pretty crazy. That is why you can get crazy chills listening to trance. It puts your body in a state of trance, or does for me for the most part :thumbup: And to all the haters i don't mean only when you are fucked up on ectasy. You don't need to do drugs for this music to sound great. That is one of the stupid sterotypes society labels this music with but that is a whole other debate.




Your refernce to modern classical music is so retarded, you're such a fag. I would like to know how you can back that up considering I doubt you have a degree in music.

Every time I read one of your posts I get dumber.

oldraven
As much as I enjoyed my Daft Punk and Chemical Bros. back in the day, I have to roll my eyes when someone compares the work of a DJ to that of a Classical Composer. I'd have a hard time believing Mozart ever said "Now Claus, just keep doing that on the French Horn for a few minutes."

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
Your refernce to modern classical music is so retarded, you're such a fag. I would like to know how you can back that up considering I doubt you have a degree in music.

Every time I read one of your posts I get dumber.



Fuck yourself jason. You're just a fucking ignorant tool and it is clear you do not understand muscial structure at all. There are ton of similarities between trance and classical music.

For someone who claims to be so educated you really prove how ignorant you are. Ohh wait, you don't claim to be educated, you claim to be a rich guy who rapes 14 year olds. :thumbup:

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by oldraven
As much as I enjoyed my Daft Punk and Chemical Bros. back in the day, I have to roll my eyes when someone compares the work of a DJ to that of a Classical Composer. I'd have a hard time believing Mozart ever said "Now Claus, just keep doing that on the French Horn for a few minutes."


That is not what i said at all. I never said that the music produced can be compared. I said that the structure has tons of similarities.

Sailor
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
That is not what i said at all. I never said that the music produced can be compared. I said that the structure has tons of similarities.


:dunno: Care to elaborate on the "tons of similarities"?

midnite
I do have to say that there is a LOT of crappy electronic music out there, and sometimes I'll have to download 20 or even 30 new albums before I find a new artist that actually makes music I want to listen to over and over again.

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
Fuck yourself jason. You're just a fucking ignorant tool and it is clear you do not understand muscial structure at all. There are ton of similarities between trance and classical music.

For someone who claims to be so educated you really prove how ignorant you are. Ohh wait, you don't claim to be educated, you claim to be a rich guy who rapes 14 year olds. :thumbup:



First of all,Those 14 year olds are more than willing, trust me : )

Look fucktard, do you even play a musical instrument? ( I play guitar BTW and grew up in a musical household )

You are trying to back something up with your own opinion. Lots of similarities... like what... the fact that classical music was played by an orchestra with dozens of musicians and instruments... and techno is made on one keyboard????

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MUSIC STRUCTURE, CONSIDERING I STRONGLY DOUBT YOU CAN EVEN READ MUSIC.

Seems to me you cant read in general, maybe if you read a book once in a while you wouldn't make yourself look like an idiot everytime you opened that cockhole you call a mouth : )

Inzane
:lol:

Jayturbo: 11
Prudz_lude: 0

:thumbup:

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
First of all,Those 14 year olds are more than willing, trust me : )

Look fucktard, do you even play a musical instrument? ( I play guitar BTW and grew up in a musical household )

You are trying to back something up with your own opinion. Lots of similarities... like what... the fact that classical music was played by an orchestra with dozens of musicians and instruments... and techno is made on one keyboard????

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MUSIC STRUCTURE, CONSIDERING I STRONGLY DOUBT YOU CAN EVEN READ MUSIC.

Seems to me you cant read in general, maybe if you read a book once in a while you wouldn't make yourself look like an idiot everytime you opened that cockhole you call a mouth : )



I to come from a musical household. Bite your tongue before you speak. I played bass guitar for a good 6 years you faggot. Your posts make the rest of this forum dummer and the fact that they are even siding with you just reinforces their ignorance as well.

Classical music is based on repeating different themes in different ways. For example, one of the things Mozart commonly associated with his music was the seprano section would have a theme and they would hold the theme for a while and then alto section would lead the theme or have a solo of that same theme. That same theme would be played repeatedly through out the song. This is exactly what trance does for a large majority of songs.

Mozart, Brahms, Schunan for example use the same themes in the backgrounds of their pieces (over lying motif) They would use single sounds/notes/phrase and have it played repetively to build tention, building the climax. This is exactly what trance does. They would build the songs struture in a way so that when to song reache its climax it would be fortissimo, just like trance does.

The dynamics of a classical song and a trance song both require a trained ear to be able to differenciate all the different noises, to be able to hear the subtleties in each song, and the complexities.

Jason, like i said, go fuck yourself. Saying something stupid like "Lots of similarities... like what... the fact that classical music was played by an orchestra with dozens of musicians and instruments... and techno is made on one keyboard????" just proves how stupid you are.

Prudz_lude: 100
Jayturbo: fag

fugumerkur
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo

and techno is made on one keyboard????





You are stuck in 1985 with that comment.

A keyboard, or synth (Synth being a keyboard with keys programmable with samples taken from any form of music being classical rap, hip hop, pop or what ever, even country if the track is themed that way. Is used and multiple keyboards and synths along with the same mixers and equalizer equipment used in any form of music being professionally produced.

Don't assume if you don't know.... Oh yeah, Drum machines with samples from Real fucking drums mind you are also used in the production of "techno"(back in the late 80's and early 90's live vocalists were used as well as live drums , keyboards and guitars in live shows and sets put on by Live DJ's.

The key to the music comes from the Dj who takes the Track and uses it as a template, the Dj then mixes the same Vinyl on his other turntable to use different elements of the track or to cut the track short, lengthen it ect by crossfading and using the high mid and low cut knobs. Basicallly manipulating the track to the crowds liking. Then he switches to another vinyl with similar BPM (Beats per minute ) and mixes the track out.

The Dj can do this for hours on end catering to the crowd and how they are enjoying it. Hence why listening to it "MIXED" live makes it so much more enjoyable. you wouldn't listen to your favourite rock band without turning it up, same effect goes for electronica.


Fords are gay. Your so smart.! Must be all the 14 yr olds your hangin out with.

Have you driven my mustang, have you seen it, do you know anything about it?? Again you are assuming...

oldraven
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
the fact that classical music was played by an orchestra with dozens of musicians and instruments... and techno is made on one keyboard????


Not to mention each one of those instruments has their own complete and complex part from beginning to end with rare repetition. Many minds with specific skills.

I understand the sensory bit. But have you been in front of an Orchestra? Wow, man. Your hair stands on end in places that never had hair before. Like your eyeballs. Now to make myself even more of a freak, I played Baritone B.C. for a few years and got to experience a good many fine tuned Orchestras. Never got to hear a Symphony, though.

Whoever said it takes 20 or 30 to find a decent one sounds about right. But if it's something new, and something good (new often ends up being shit) I'll listen to it.

fugumerkur
How to jam with Techno music.

Hell of an instrument eh!


Tech jam


Imagine the samples you could put into that thing.



Guitars unfortunately have 6 strings and without an electronic device hooked up to it you only have the 6 strings and a limited amount of sounds you can derive from it.

With the 6 strings and a sampler with a synth you can turn the 6 strings into a massive amount of sounds that can be edited and revamped for use in electronic music.!


Classic 1987 Techno.

Jamie Principle Your love. (revolutionized the house scene)

Your love ( video sucks , just listen to the track.)

Another big classic from the 80's

A guy called Gerald Voodoo Ray

Voodoo ray

oh and even in 1987 techno was made with more than one keyboard.!!!!

Nothing like weekly parties with crowds in excess of 10 000 just to listen to a keyboard!!!

Techno ftw.

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
I to come from a musical household. Bite your tongue before you speak. I played bass guitar for a good 6 years you faggot. Your posts make the rest of this forum dummer and the fact that they are even siding with you just reinforces their ignorance as well.

Classical music is based on repeating different themes in different ways. For example, one of the things Mozart commonly associated with his music was the seprano section would have a theme and they would hold the theme for a while and then alto section would lead the theme or have a solo of that same theme. That same theme would be played repeatedly through out the song. This is exactly what trance does for a large majority of songs.

Mozart, Brahms, Schunan for example use the same themes in the backgrounds of their pieces (over lying motif) They would use single sounds/notes/phrase and have it played repetively to build tention, building the climax. This is exactly what trance does. They would build the songs struture in a way so that when to song reache its climax it would be fortissimo, just like trance does.

The dynamics of a classical song and a trance song both require a trained ear to be able to differenciate all the different noises, to be able to hear the subtleties in each song, and the complexities.

Jason, like i said, go fuck yourself. Saying something stupid like "Lots of similarities... like what... the fact that classical music was played by an orchestra with dozens of musicians and instruments... and techno is made on one keyboard????" just proves how stupid you are.

Prudz_lude: 100
Jayturbo: fag



Just quoting this so that everyone sees this response.

fugumerkur
Hey Jordan Turbo. Read this ..


Straight from Wikipedia

Effect on mainstream popular music
Around the mid-1990s, with the success of the big beat-sound exemplified by The Chemical Brothers and The Prodigy in the UK (due in part to the attention from mainstream artists like Madonna), music of this period began to be produced with a much higher budget, production values, and with more layers than most other forms of dance music before or after, since it was backed by major record labels and MTV as the "next big thing".[6]

According to a 1997 Billboard article, "[t]he union of the club community and independent labels" provided the experimental and trend-setting environment in which electronica acts developed and eventually reached the mainstream. It cites American labels such as Astralwerks (The Future Sound of London, Fluke), Moonshine (DJ Keoki), and City of Angels (The Crystal Method) for playing a significant role in discovering and marketing artists who became popularized in the electronica scene.[2]

Hip-hop music had been influenced by electronic music from the beginning, inspiring the genre of electro and such artists as Afrika Bambataa, Public Enemy and Uffie.[citation needed] Rock, synthpop, New Wave and goth music of the 1980s was often heavily electronic in production or form, particularly Madchester bands in the United Kingdom, which had a close connection to the rave scene.[citation needed] New Order, a rock band which had a series of "electronica" hits before the term was coined, exemplified the techno inspiration increasingly common during the '80s era.[citation needed]


The adoption of elements of electronica by several of the world's most popular rock bands was also seen beginning in the mid 1990s, for example U2's Zooropa (1993) and Pop (1997) albums, Radiohead's OK Computer (1997), R.E.M.'s Up (1998), The Smashing Pumpkins' Adore (1998), Blur's 13 (1999) and Oasis's Standing on the Shoulder of Giants (2000) albums . Several of these albums were produced with electronic dance producers, such as William Orbit who produced Madonna's Ray of Light. Radiohead's 2000 album Kid A was seen to adopt less commercial styles of electronic music influenced partly by artists such as Autechre and Aphex Twin, and became the rock band's highest charting release worldwide.[citation needed] The word "electronica" was commonly applied to such releases despite large differences in style. Indeed, by the late 1990s, the word was mostly used by rock fans to describe rock and pop artists' adoption of electronic music textures (such as samples, synthesizers and drum machines) with which they were otherwise unfamiliar, as well as to label a few dance-oriented acts that achieved popularity. This was particularly true in the US where the electronic dance subculture was much less prominent.[citation needed]

In the early 2000s, electronica-inspired post punk experienced a revival, with rock bands such as Interpol and The Killers specifically drawing on the 1980s sound of New Order and The Cure. Russian duet t.A.T.u. use electronica styles extensively, and fuse it with rock styles to form an edgy electronica style which is used by many pop artists.

With newly prominent pop music styles such as reggaeton, electroclash, and favela funk, electronic music styles in the current decade are seen to permeate nearly all genres of the mainstream and indie landscape such that a distinct "electronica" genre of pop music is rarely noted. However, the word continues to be more common in the U.S. music industry for synthesized, techno-inspired pop music, as specific genres such as drum and bass and IDM never achieved mainstream attention.[citation needed]


[edit] TV Influence
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, electronica music was increasingly used as background scores for television advertisements, initially for automobiles,[21] and later for other technological and business products such as computers and financial services.

Artists who have featured electronic songs in adverstisements:

Autechre
BT
Dubfire
Junkie XL
Justice
Les Rythmes Digitales
Massive Attack
UNKLE
This short section requires expansion.

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
You are stuck in 1985 with that comment.

A keyboard, or synth (Synth being a keyboard with keys programmable with samples taken from any form of music being classical rap, hip hop, pop or what ever, even country if the track is themed that way. Is used and multiple keyboards and synths along with the same mixers and equalizer equipment used in any form of music being professionally produced.

Don't assume if you don't know.... Oh yeah, Drum machines with samples from Real fucking drums mind you are also used in the production of "techno"(back in the late 80's and early 90's live vocalists were used as well as live drums , keyboards and guitars in live shows and sets put on by Live DJ's.

The key to the music comes from the Dj who takes the Track and uses it as a template, the Dj then mixes the same Vinyl on his other turntable to use different elements of the track or to cut the track short, lengthen it ect by crossfading and using the high mid and low cut knobs. Basicallly manipulating the track to the crowds liking. Then he switches to another vinyl with similar BPM (Beats per minute ) and mixes the track out.

The Dj can do this for hours on end catering to the crowd and how they are enjoying it. Hence why listening to it "MIXED" live makes it so much more enjoyable. you wouldn't listen to your favourite rock band without turning it up, same effect goes for electronica.


Fords are gay. Your so smart.! Must be all the 14 yr olds your hangin out with.

Have you driven my mustang, have you seen it, do you know anything about it?? Again you are assuming...




so where exactly am I wrong about it being made on a keyboard?

You can jump on the idiot boat with prudz.

And prudz, I'm not even close to finished making you look stupid : )

fugumerkur
Idiot boat!

It takes more then a keyboard to make any form of techno.

man you are out there.! Welcome to diversity.!

oldraven
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Hey Jordan Turbo. Read this ..


Straight from Wikipedia

Effect on mainstream popular music
Around the mid-1990s, with the success of the big beat-sound exemplified by The Chemical Brothers and The Prodigy in the UK (due in part to the attention from mainstream artists like Madonna), music of this period began to be produced with a much higher budget, production values, and with more layers than most other forms of dance music before or after, since it was backed by major record labels and MTV as the "next big thing".[6]

According to a 1997 Billboard article, "[t]he union of the club community and independent labels" provided the experimental and trend-setting environment in which electronica acts developed and eventually reached the mainstream. It cites American labels such as Astralwerks (The Future Sound of London, Fluke), Moonshine (DJ Keoki), and City of Angels (The Crystal Method) for playing a significant role in discovering and marketing artists who became popularized in the electronica scene.[2]

Hip-hop music had been influenced by electronic music from the beginning, inspiring the genre of electro and such artists as Afrika Bambataa, Public Enemy and Uffie.[citation needed] Rock, synthpop, New Wave and goth music of the 1980s was often heavily electronic in production or form, particularly Madchester bands in the United Kingdom, which had a close connection to the rave scene.[citation needed] New Order, a rock band which had a series of "electronica" hits before the term was coined, exemplified the techno inspiration increasingly common during the '80s era.[citation needed]


The adoption of elements of electronica by several of the world's most popular rock bands was also seen beginning in the mid 1990s, for example U2's Zooropa (1993) and Pop (1997) albums, Radiohead's OK Computer (1997), R.E.M.'s Up (1998), The Smashing Pumpkins' Adore (1998), Blur's 13 (1999) and Oasis's Standing on the Shoulder of Giants (2000) albums . Several of these albums were produced with electronic dance producers, such as William Orbit who produced Madonna's Ray of Light. Radiohead's 2000 album Kid A was seen to adopt less commercial styles of electronic music influenced partly by artists such as Autechre and Aphex Twin, and became the rock band's highest charting release worldwide.[citation needed] The word "electronica" was commonly applied to such releases despite large differences in style. Indeed, by the late 1990s, the word was mostly used by rock fans to describe rock and pop artists' adoption of electronic music textures (such as samples, synthesizers and drum machines) with which they were otherwise unfamiliar, as well as to label a few dance-oriented acts that achieved popularity. This was particularly true in the US where the electronic dance subculture was much less prominent.[citation needed]

In the early 2000s, electronica-inspired post punk experienced a revival, with rock bands such as Interpol and The Killers specifically drawing on the 1980s sound of New Order and The Cure. Russian duet t.A.T.u. use electronica styles extensively, and fuse it with rock styles to form an edgy electronica style which is used by many pop artists.

With newly prominent pop music styles such as reggaeton, electroclash, and favela funk, electronic music styles in the current decade are seen to permeate nearly all genres of the mainstream and indie landscape such that a distinct "electronica" genre of pop music is rarely noted. However, the word continues to be more common in the U.S. music industry for synthesized, techno-inspired pop music, as specific genres such as drum and bass and IDM never achieved mainstream attention.[citation needed]


[edit] TV Influence
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, electronica music was increasingly used as background scores for television advertisements, initially for automobiles,[21] and later for other technological and business products such as computers and financial services.

Artists who have featured electronic songs in adverstisements:

Autechre
BT
Dubfire
Junkie XL
Justice
Les Rythmes Digitales
Massive Attack
UNKLE
This short section requires expansion.



Now get about 30 more people who are exceptionally skilled in whatever the hell all that was, (did you expect anyone to read all that?), and see what they can accomplish as a group, directed by one individual (who knows every blip and squeel each person is going to pull out of their magic box).

Jayturbo
You know what, I'm not gonna argue with you on this prudz.

Reason being this, Im not somebody who has studied classical music, and lets face it, neither are you. This would be an argument you would have to have in person, seeing as you or I could just go on the internet and look through hours of bullshit music theory neither of us probably cares about to support our individual argument. I know I would go to that extreme to win an argument and I am quite certain you would as well. ( if you haven't already )

SO I'm leaving this one alone, if you and your boyfriend think techno is classical for our generation, by all means, i think you guys should keep listening to it while you fuck each other : )

fugumerkur
Thats an interesting concept.!

SO kinda like this.. just a few more people.



(keep in mind its 1996)

and skip ahead 3 minutes.

Live shit

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
You know what, I'm not gonna argue with you on this prudz.

Reason being this, Im not somebody who has studied classical music, and lets face it, neither are you. This would be an argument you would have to have in person, seeing as you or I could just go on the internet and look through hours of bullshit music theory neither of us probably cares about to support our individual argument. I know I would go to that extreme to win an argument and I am quite certain you would as well. ( if you haven't already )

SO I'm leaving this one alone, if you and your boyfriend think techno is classical for our generation, by all means, i think you guys should keep listening to it while you fuck each other : )



Fuck you, you dumbass. You just got your ass handed to you like the idiot you are. I wouldn't waste my time looking up crap like that. I love the copout, "anybody can waste time looking up this info" you have to had listened to a ton of classical music to be even able to make those distinctions. I was wondering if you would have even understood any of what i wrote seeing how you know how to read music and have been raised in a musical house hold as well... I should have mentioned my parents are classical music nuts and i was raised listening to that music.

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo


And prudz, I'm not even close to finished making you look stupid : )



If future events are anything like this i don't understand the point you are going to be trying to make :dunno: seems to me you just look stupid at this point.

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
I like how my friend put it "it is modern classical music, the equvilant of classical music of the past"



I might be wrong, but that sounds a lot like pillow talk to me.

Like I said, I'm not gonna have this argument with you, just the fact that you are making such a general reference to how classical music is like techno leads any intelligent person to realize you don't know what your talking about, seeing as classical music itself is so diverse. I could throw in some random horse shit like you did about soprano and baritone and concerto's etc. to try and fluff it up, but its still YOUR OPINION. I will also mention....

(I love how easy it is to make you look like a complete fuckin idiot!!)

Soprano- Refers to a singer.... just like baritone ( you sure owned me! )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soprano

I know this because my mom sings soprano, and step dad sings baritone, step dad also has a degree in classical music and you can read about them in the link below.

http://www.maplecreekbluegrass.com/bio.htm

I can read music, but I wish I was a com-poser like you though.

This is your how you make techno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w06VOtuS-Y

the first ten seconds explain everthing.

Your original post where you tried to sound smart is just a bunch of bull shit.

But I'm not about to copy and paste the wiki page for classical music.

And like sooo many times before..

you fail.

jordanturbo
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Hey Jordan Turbo. Read this ..


Straight from Wikipedia

Effect on mainstream popular music
Around the mid-1990s, with the success of the big beat-sound exemplified by The Chemical Brothers and The Prodigy in the UK (due in part to the attention from mainstream artists like Madonna), music of this period began to be produced with a much higher budget, production values, and with more layers than most other forms of dance music before or after, since it was backed by major record labels and MTV as the "next big thing".[6]

According to a 1997 Billboard article, "[t]he union of the club community and independent labels" provided the experimental and trend-setting environment in which electronica acts developed and eventually reached the mainstream. It cites American labels such as Astralwerks (The Future Sound of London, Fluke), Moonshine (DJ Keoki), and City of Angels (The Crystal Method) for playing a significant role in discovering and marketing artists who became popularized in the electronica scene.[2]

Hip-hop music had been influenced by electronic music from the beginning, inspiring the genre of electro and such artists as Afrika Bambataa, Public Enemy and Uffie.[citation needed] Rock, synthpop, New Wave and goth music of the 1980s was often heavily electronic in production or form, particularly Madchester bands in the United Kingdom, which had a close connection to the rave scene.[citation needed] New Order, a rock band which had a series of "electronica" hits before the term was coined, exemplified the techno inspiration increasingly common during the '80s era.[citation needed]


The adoption of elements of electronica by several of the world's most popular rock bands was also seen beginning in the mid 1990s, for example U2's Zooropa (1993) and Pop (1997) albums, Radiohead's OK Computer (1997), R.E.M.'s Up (1998), The Smashing Pumpkins' Adore (1998), Blur's 13 (1999) and Oasis's Standing on the Shoulder of Giants (2000) albums . Several of these albums were produced with electronic dance producers, such as William Orbit who produced Madonna's Ray of Light. Radiohead's 2000 album Kid A was seen to adopt less commercial styles of electronic music influenced partly by artists such as Autechre and Aphex Twin, and became the rock band's highest charting release worldwide.[citation needed] The word "electronica" was commonly applied to such releases despite large differences in style. Indeed, by the late 1990s, the word was mostly used by rock fans to describe rock and pop artists' adoption of electronic music textures (such as samples, synthesizers and drum machines) with which they were otherwise unfamiliar, as well as to label a few dance-oriented acts that achieved popularity. This was particularly true in the US where the electronic dance subculture was much less prominent.[citation needed]

In the early 2000s, electronica-inspired post punk experienced a revival, with rock bands such as Interpol and The Killers specifically drawing on the 1980s sound of New Order and The Cure. Russian duet t.A.T.u. use electronica styles extensively, and fuse it with rock styles to form an edgy electronica style which is used by many pop artists.

With newly prominent pop music styles such as reggaeton, electroclash, and favela funk, electronic music styles in the current decade are seen to permeate nearly all genres of the mainstream and indie landscape such that a distinct "electronica" genre of pop music is rarely noted. However, the word continues to be more common in the U.S. music industry for synthesized, techno-inspired pop music, as specific genres such as drum and bass and IDM never achieved mainstream attention.[citation needed]


[edit] TV Influence
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, electronica music was increasingly used as background scores for television advertisements, initially for automobiles,[21] and later for other technological and business products such as computers and financial services.

Artists who have featured electronic songs in adverstisements:

Autechre
BT
Dubfire
Junkie XL
Justice
Les Rythmes Digitales
Massive Attack
UNKLE
This short section requires expansion.



Um I think you got the wrong guy there are two turbos one Jordan one jason, i made the comment about liking sandstorm (which i actually do, and i do blaze scatman at the hill when i am getting ready for snowboarding so everyone can listen, I was actually serious) and your gay ford, i didnt get involved in the theory conversation, but since you brought it up, I own a guitar, so i know more than everyone including jay, you are all idiots, and I am the greatest. Prudz you are just upset that jason deleted you from his facebook lol

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by jordanturbo
Um I think you got the wrong guy there are two turbos one Jordan one jason, i made the comment about liking sandstorm (which i actually do, and i do blaze scatman at the hill when i am getting ready for snowboarding so everyone can listen, I was actually serious) and your gay ford, i didnt get involved in the theory conversation, but since you brought it up, I own a guitar, so i know more than everyone including jay, you are all idiots, and I am the greatest. Prudz you are just upset that jason deleted you from his facebook lol


I owned you on facebook too muah muah muah

BTW you look like a dork.

jordanturbo
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
I owned you on facebook too muah muah muah

BTW you look like a dork.



Im not a dork, I may be overweight, have a pizza face, and glasses, but i def dont look like a dork. Im strait rig pig gangsta

Jayturbo
quote:
Originally posted by jordanturbo
Im not a dork, I may be overweight, have a pizza face, and glasses, but i def dont look like a dork. Im strait rig pig gangsta


Not you, you big dummy. ... prudz

Jordan dont say those hurtful things, you know your the only man for me, i think your gorgeous : ) lets go make love to sandstorm...

bananaboat
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
LOL look fucktard, i just used the "scene" as a refernce to the music, sounds to me llke you are a lot more into the scene than I am, seeing as I didnt know any of the shit you just said.

The only thing I know about emo is this, emo girls turn me on, emo guys look gay. Thats about al I need to know.

I'm into music, what's wrong with that? You don't see me slagging you for being an uneducated redneck who can't seem to string together a proper sentence without spelling errors and homophobic references.

To each his own I suppose.

Jayturbo
YYYEEEEEE HHHHHAAAAAWWWWWWW

OOOIIIILLL MONEY!!!!

bananaboat
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
YYYEEEEEE HHHHHAAAAAWWWWWWW

OOOIIIILLL MONEY!!!!

Yeah, exactly. :rolleyes:

EK9Hatch
I hate it mostly due to its homosexual relations.

I once did a poll, and 9 out of 10 homosexual men loved Electronica.

Jamie

silvia s13
quote:
Originally posted by EK9Hatch
I hate it mostly due to its homosexual relations.

I once did a poll, and 9 out of 10 homosexual men loved Electronica.

Jamie


I must be the 1 that wasnt a fag. I started listening to electronica in grade 12. Scooter FTW. Then got in to some digweed and oakie. I used to listen to rap and other popular music, but its all techno/trance etc since then.

oldraven
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
Soprano- Refers to a singer.... just like baritone ( you sure owned me! )


uuhhh...... what?

They're a lot broader terms than simply a singer's vocal range. I mentioned earlier that I played a Baritone B.C. (Bass Clef), which is a compact Tuba, and Kenny G rocks out on a Soprano Saxophone.

fugumerkur
Being homosexual to listen to techno as a reference would be like me blatently saying those who drive white civics have little penis syndrome.

I listen to about 60% techno and 40% edmonton radio.

So I am only 60% homo then Jamie???

Please put a link in here proving that you have to be gay to listen to techno and i'll take you seriously.! :thumbup:

joshturbo
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Being homosexual to listen to techno as a reference would be like me blatently saying those who drive white civics have little penis syndrome.

I listen to about 60% techno and 40% edmonton radio.

So I am only 60% homo then Jamie???

Please put a link in here proving that you have to be gay to listen to techno and i'll take you seriously.! :thumbup:




who cares if your 60% gay. keep it in the closet ..... lol

music is just personal preference who cares what others think.
i dont Give a F%$^ what people think of me or the msic i listen to

jordanturbo
quote:
Originally posted by joshturbo
who cares if your 60% gay. keep it in the closet ..... lol

music is just personal preference who cares what others think.
i dont Give a F%$^ what people think of me or the msic i listen to



Thats because we are all just hillbillies that live in trailers, and listen to jason's parents music lol. Our self esteeme is already shot, so no one can think less of us than we already do

EK9Hatch
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Being homosexual to listen to techno as a reference would be like me blatently saying those who drive white civics have little penis syndrome.

I listen to about 60% techno and 40% edmonton radio.

So I am only 60% homo then Jamie???

Please put a link in here proving that you have to be gay to listen to techno and i'll take you seriously.! :thumbup:



No, everyone knows its guys that drive Corvettes that have small dicks, not Civics. Guys that drive civics are just poor :p

As for my study, it was completed in 2005, so I'll have to dig out all my papers. I don't have a scanner though...but I can mail you a copy if you like. Just send a prepaid, self addressed envelope to me.

Like I said, it was 9 out of 10...so maybe you fall into that very small 10% that are not homosexuals.

Jamie

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by oldraven
uuhhh...... what?

They're a lot broader terms than simply a singer's vocal range. I mentioned earlier that I played a Baritone B.C. (Bass Clef), which is a compact Tuba, and Kenny G rocks out on a Soprano Saxophone.



exactly. Thanks for the back up oldraven... Jason obviously did not realize this, all he seems to be doing is reinforcing his ignorance.

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
Not you, you big dummy. ... prudz




Kind of funny that you say that... You don't have access to my page considering it is locked. Go listen to your parents sweetgrass music is their trailerhome.

Jayturbo
Is your name Adam Blackwood?

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
Is your name Adam Blackwood?


nope. hint prudz has something to do with my last name. If you figure it out there are two people with my name in edmonton. One is sitting on a couch and looks like a dork, the other is rocking a nice shirt sitting on a chair and you won't have access to his page. :p

Prudz_lude
Don't you have work to be doing?:dunno:

Jayturbo
RED HAIR? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON DRUGS?

THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS....

Callin me a red head? You just crossed a line you shouldn't have crossed.

My hair is beautiful and blonde, very Paul Walker-esque.

Jayturbo
Nope, i'm getting 46/hour to sit on my ass actually.

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by Jayturbo
RED HAIR? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON DRUGS?

THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS....

Callin me a red head? You just crossed a line you shouldn't have crossed.

My hair is beautiful and blonde, very Paul Walker-esque.

:lol: i know, crossing the ginger kid line typically upsets people. I admit that was a bit to far. That is why i deleted it hahaha.

EK9Hatch
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
rocking a nice shirt sitting on a chair


LMAO :lol: Thats hilarious! hahahaha

Jamie

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by EK9Hatch
LMAO :lol: Thats hilarious! hahahaha

Jamie

i thought so hahahaha

GQsmooth
quote:
Originally posted by EK9Hatch
No, everyone knows its guys that drive Corvettes that have small dicks, not Civics. Guys that drive civics are just poor :p

As for my study, it was completed in 2005, so I'll have to dig out all my papers. I don't have a scanner though...but I can mail you a copy if you like. Just send a prepaid, self addressed envelope to me.

Like I said, it was 9 out of 10...so maybe you fall into that very small 10% that are not homosexuals.

Jamie



nah he was right the first time about the white civics lol

Prudz_lude
quote:
Originally posted by GQsmooth
nah he was right the first time about the white civics lol


i was waiting for GQ to chime into that one :lol:

huntsean
Music to personalities, shift in thread topic much?

fugumerkur
Its just like any thread in this forum, its the who is better than who highschool bull shit!

oldraven
quote:
Originally posted by fugumerkur
Its just like any thread in this forum, its the who is better than who highschool bull shit!


Fugu, this is about the five billionth post like this you've made in the last few months. You realise you're making yourself look like a 5 year old pouting in the corner, right? I don't want you to leave, but why do you post on a board you obviously hate?

fugumerkur
I like cars.

oldraven
Then figure out that cars aren't typing replies, people are, and get used to it.




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