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| EK9Hatch |
I was wondering if you guys had any opinions on good, high demand jobs? I'm thinking mostly of Certificate or Diploma programs that are high in demand and pays ABOVE average.
I noticed that most of the higher paying jobs are out of town :( After working out of town for the most part of 5 years now, it would be nice to go to school for a job I could have in the city.
I'm just looking for opinions... Thanks
Jamie |
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| Blackout-spec |
power engineering. you would work in the plants surrounding the city. ie. fort sask, sherwood park.
pay is really good between 30-45/hr 30-35$ to start.
its shift work, but you get used to it fast. and the work is really easy.
i know there are lots of plants hiring if you can get the education.
you can go to nait and take the 2 yr tech or 1 yr, or just study on your own and challenge the ABSA exams. > not easy to pass on your own!!!
you work on the rigs right? so this would be a nice change, plus you can still work in the industry, so thats a plus.
i know theres a few other guys on this forum that are PE's also. |
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| stealth |
Instrumentation!
High demand for them!
Clean work, great pay. Straight days! |
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| HiTempguy |
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Instrumentation!
High demand for them!
Clean work, great pay. Straight days!
That just made my day seeing someone post that. Looks as if my decision to go into instrumentation this fall may pay off after all. And if its 5% easier then engineering was I'll f*&kin own it! |
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| Blackout-spec |
| im sure we could use some more instrumentation guys where i work for sure. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Thanks for the posts guys! Power Engineering is something I've been considering. Its just that I've been out of school for almost 10 years...so I'm wondering how tough this would be.
Only issue, is I know a few PE guys, but they all work out of town in the middle of no where...OR up in Fort Crack. Thats something I want to stay away from.
Keep the ideas coming! Thanks :)
Jamie |
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| stealth |
| Yea their are way better choices out their. |
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| BRNIN8 |
| Try distribution sales. Pretty easy once you figure it out. I work about 35ish hours a week. I overnight 5 days a month out of town. Very rarely work weekends. Pays $45K to $110K a year. Most in my industry average 70-80,000. |
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| Therin |
| Most intrumentation people i know work out in the fields like the rest of us. so i dont think thats what you want. |
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| Flex |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Thanks for the posts guys! Power Engineering is something I've been considering. Its just that I've been out of school for almost 10 years...so I'm wondering how tough this would be.
Only issue, is I know a few PE guys, but they all work out of town in the middle of no where...OR up in Fort Crack. Thats something I want to stay away from.
Keep the ideas coming! Thanks :)
Jamie
Dont worry about going back and getting it. I went back to school at 30 and did my PE. Just keep up with the work and its not that bad at all. I took an Engineering Tech course at NAIT in 1990 and it was way harder and alot more work.
If you are going to take it a piece of advise. When you do your practical experience go to a place where you would like to work afterwards. So if you want to work in the city pick a company here. These companies use this time as basically a few month long interview. So if they like you and your good theres a really big chance they will have a job for you when your done school. Also if you can afford the time away from work take the 2 yr program and come out with half your 2nd class. It would be so much easier that way then trying to studying while working and writting your exams (thats what Im doing) I find it so hard to get into the books and get motivated now.
I took my course in Grande Prairie so I had to look where I could get good experience. I have been working at a sour gas plant in Fox Creek. I have 6 years under my belt now with my 3rd class so now I am valuable here so Im going to find a job around the city so I dont have to commute any more. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Flex - Thanks for he input!
Keep the ideas coming...
Jamie |
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| golfer1 |
| PE / Operator is easy work 80% of the time, and like others stated you are looking at 30/hr to start. Although all we take (90 % of the time) is 3rd class PE. at Shell |
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| liveforspd |
| I hear cock sucking is in high demand for people like you. |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by liveforspd
I hear cock sucking is in high demand for people like you.
Turbowned! |
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| Blackout-spec |
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Originally posted by golfer1
PE / Operator is easy work 80% of the time, and like others stated you are looking at 30/hr to start. Although all we take (90 % of the time) is 3rd class PE. at Shell
yah 3rd class is pretty much bare minimum.
and its more like 95% of the time its easy work. when things go to shit, you run for the whole 12 hrs. |
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| Fish_e_o |
dog groomer!
i can't get my dog in for 6 months:blink: ANYWHERE! |
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| liveforspd |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Seriously, I'm sick of hearing you. Stop making faggot ass comments online and meet up with me if you have something to say. You are the biggest pussy I've ever came across online.
I'm willing to meet up with you anytime, anywhere to give you a fucking face stomp. Why not make it at a UC meet?:dunno: Come down and say some shit. I'm calling you out ass fuck.
What are you going to do? :dunno:
Jamie
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| EK9Hatch |
Anyone else here a Power Engineer? How do you like it? What do you usually work? Shift work? Do you get over time?
Thanks!
Jamie |
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| Mattz |
Try e-mailing a place called DeGussa. They are a chem plant out in fort saskatchewan. I know a bunch of chem guys with BSc's are going to nait to get there Power Engineerng diploma. I know I might, with a BSc.
They do shift work and basically if nothing goes wrong they just sit there and play cards. If something does break down, one of the older staff members will fix it. Nothing to really worry about. You do have to work nights though. I heard they were starting guys at around 60k a year.
Also the schooling for it is very easy, so I wouldn't worry about the difficulty of it. |
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| 780Tuners |
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Originally posted by liveforspd
I hear cock sucking is in high demand for people like you.
1 month suspension. |
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| teg91 |
Thats what i am going into this fall at Nait.. I am enrolled in the 2 yrs power engineering tech program. I heard Math and Physics is crucial in this program..:dunno: If you havent used math/physics in a while (Me for example) NAIT offers a 4 mnths upgrading.
And just a lil inside info..I graduated from CST 1.5 yrs ago, and it was a 2 yrs diploma too..
I interviewed one of my uncle before, to complete my career investigation, it seems like a pretty interesting job with pretty high pay.. But the only down fall for it is the shift work (usually its 12 hrs shift depending where you work i guess).. But hey gotta give up something for a high paying job right..? And i heard Petro Canada is opening another refinery in Fort Sast. and i am sure they need lots of engineers.. That's if you're looking to work in the city.. :thumbup:
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Anyone else here a Power Engineer? How do you like it? What do you usually work? Shift work? Do you get over time?
Thanks!
Jamie
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| teg91 |
| yeah i know lots of poor grammars and sentences :beer: |
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| stealth |
Don't expect to get a job in the city, that is high paying in a Refinery or Upgrader right out of school.
Yes you can get one, but the chances are slim.
You need experience.
You're life and other peoples lives are in your hands in this job, don't think that it is a sit back and relax kind of job.
Shift work sucks. Takes years off of your life. Working weekends sucks. Imagine working shift for the rest of your life...
Like I said, Instrumentation is the way to go. |
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| golfer1 |
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Don't expect to get a job in the city, that is high paying in a Refinery or Upgrader right out of school.
Yes you can get one, but the chances are slim.
You need experience.]
Dont let this bafoon discourage you. As someone who works hr at Scotford I can tell you we hire lots of people out of school (as long as your a third) |
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| teg91 |
I am not worried about the working experience..
There is a Co-op term... thats one of the reason i go to Nait instead of UofA |
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| stealth |
Umm, was their a reason for you to start with childish remarks?
Listen you fucking homo, next time you want to have a civilized conversation, don't start it by calling people names.
98% of my graduating class did not get a job in Ft. Saskatchewan. And many applied.
The ones who did, got low paying jobs.
I am just providing him with actual factual information. Not just all the pros of the job.:asshole:
People just tend to tell people about all the good, and non of the bad; mostly because its their job, and they don't like to think negatively towards it, or express it to others. Thats why its good to have all of the info out their. |
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| golfer1 |
| you must have had a piss poor class, because we cannot find enough operators |
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| stealth |
What does a piss poor class have to do with Shell hiring 3rd class operators?
Last time I checked, teachers don't walk you to HR and spoon feed you to get a job.
If you guys need 3rd Class Operators then why don't you hire them?
10 guys from my place of employment went to interviews their. All had their 3rds, and some of them their seconds. Only 3 got offered a job. |
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| golfer1 |
| I have to say bullshit to the 2nds I know for a fact no 2nds applied at Scotford and got turned away |
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| stealth |
Well, he did get turned away. They said they were looking for someone with more O&G experience.
Why would I bullshit? Do I have a reason to?
The only ones offered a position were 3rds. The seconds had Pulp and Paper experience, or other fields.
Are you an Operator, or do you work for HR? |
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| teg91 |
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Originally posted by stealth
I am just providing him with actual factual information. Not just all the pros of the job.:asshole:
People just tend to tell people about all the good, and non of the bad; mostly because its their job, and they don't like to think negatively towards it, or express it to others. Thats why its good to have all of the info out their.
Thanks.. honestly i dont care how much they pay to start.. As long as i am not sitting in the same cubicle for 8 hrs a day..Thats the reason i am back in school again..
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| stealth |
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Originally posted by teg91
Thanks.. honestly i dont care how much they pay to start.. As long as i am not sitting in the same cubicle for 8 hrs a day..Thats the reason i am back in school again..
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No problem. I know what you mean. Staring at a computer all day or sitting in a office all day can get VERY old QUICK! |
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| teg91 |
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Originally posted by stealth
No problem. I know what you mean. Staring at a computer all day or sitting in a office all day can get VERY old QUICK!
And BIG tummy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| golfer1 |
I work HR which if you have not figured out = recruitment. You win buddy I guess I dont know who we hired and who we turned away.
Back on topic Operations is in high demand and does pay quite well. Draw backs would be shift work / safety sensitive environment. |
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| teg91 |
:thumbup:
now everyone have a beer :beer: |
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| stealth |
I am just relaying information that was passed onto me. He could have been offered, but decided to lie to us and say he was declined, and remain with our company. :dunno:
Maybe it was someone else who rejected them. From what I understand HR doesn't have 100% say in who is hired, but has the biggest role.
But what do I know. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Guys thanks for the info. I appreciate it all.
I actually don't mind (and prefer) shift work. The OT helps the checks for sure.
Another question, with experience and once you get to a 4th Class...what is your potential income?
Also, like I said before...I've been out of school for almost a DECADE...so I am kind of nervous about the academic side of things. Do you think it would be a good idea to take some upgrading for a refresher? The program only requires basic Math and Physics to get in...But I don't know.
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| teg91 |
I am not sure about the real working experience. But one of the student recruitment showed me a survey chart they did last year, the average pay for power engineers that graduate from the 2 yrs program are $65000/yr. And ofcourse it varies..
And i would totally recommend to take math 30 and physics 30 for a refresher (thats just me :dunno: ), if you do decide to upgrade.. Let me know i have all the notes for physics 30 and math 30..
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Guys thanks for the info. I appreciate it all.
I actually don't mind (and prefer) shift work. The OT helps the checks for sure.
Another question, with experience and once you get to a 4th Class...what is your potential income?
Also, like I said before...I've been out of school for almost a DECADE...so I am kind of nervous about the academic side of things. Do you think it would be a good idea to take some upgrading for a refresher? The program only requires basic Math and Physics to get in...But I don't know.
Jamie
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| EK9Hatch |
Thanks! :thumbup:
Also one more question....I was just looking on the NAIT site. Whats the difference between "POWER ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY" and "POWER ENGINEERING" ??
Under Full Time programs, they are two different programs. :dunno:
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| stealth |
| One is probably one year, while the other is 2 years. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Interesting. I'll have to check into it more.
Jamie |
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| teg91 |
One of them are 2 yrs program, you're ready to take the provincial exam for 2nd class part A after you graduate.. Thats what i've been told..
The other one i think its just 4th class... not too sure..
call Nait recruitment department tomorrow for more info.. I think their phone number is 471 4677 |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Cheque
WTF is that about Rob? :dunno:
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| onestepback |
| Jamie, if you have any problems with the math/physics, post up some questions and I'm sure we can help you out. :) |
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| teg91 |
| yup.. and i am still fresh with it too.. tuesday is my Math exam.. =D |
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| Blackout-spec |
i guess since i just took that 2 yr tech at nait starting in 06 i have a lot of good info.
first off, the course if heavy, but not hard. you have 7-9 different classes a semester. yes you read that right. so at the end if the semester, you write a final for each one, and you have to pass every single course or you dont get your diploma, or get to write your absa exams i think. without your absa exams, you have no tickets, and you will not have a job! keep that in mind.
also a major piece of advice i recommend you take seriously. when you do your summer practical after the first year, dont just pick any place. make sure you pick the places you would actually like to work at because odds are they will offer you a job for when you are done the course or even at the end of the summer practical. if you dont find your own job for the summer, you work full time all summer for free! only 50% of everyone in that 2 yr tech got paying jobs. also, when your on your summer practical, work you ass off because you need to make a name for yourself in the small world of power engineering. if you slack off and fuck around, goodluck getting a job down the road because you will not be able to use them on your resume and companies will ask why?
also, get the best marks you can get in that course because a lot of employers look at that since you dont have any PE experience.
someone asked whats the avg wage? well i didnt do the full 2 years, i actually got offered a full time position at Agruim at the end of my summer practical because they were so happy with my work ethics. so after 1 year of school i can say that i started off just under 30$/hr. that has since changed. the only reason im telling you this is because you really wanted to know what you can start off at and i dont mind telling. i know some of the other guys that got hired just after the summer practical didnt get as much as me. i also know that the guys that went back to school and are getting jobs now after completing the course are only getting hired at 35$/hr at the plant i work at.
i guarantee you will work shift work, most likely 12hr shifts, and atleast 2 weekends a month.
OT is different for every plant, but currently i can work as much OT as i want. i just take 1 OT shift a paycheck so that will prob work out to another 15K/yr on top of my base rate. this year with the shutdown and all the OT ive been working, i will easily make over 100K.
as someone else said, a 3rd class is pretty much bare minimum for getting a job, and if you have your second, pretty much anywhere will hire you. i know we will hire a second class in a heart beat. there even giving us a 10,000$ cash bonus if we get our second, + the 2$/hr raise you will already get, so second is defiantly a bonus!
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| teg91 |
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Originally posted by Blackout-spec
also a major piece of advice i recommend you take seriously. when you do your summer practical after the first year, dont just pick any place. make sure you pick the places you would actually like to work at because odds are they will offer you a job for when you are done the course or even at the end of the summer practical. if you dont find your own job for the summer, you work full time all summer for free! only 50% of everyone in that 2 yr tech got paying jobs.
Does that mean i have to find a place to work myself instead of going through NAIT to get a paying job?
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and i still have some of my books if someone wants them for cheap!!!
I will take them off you, after i get my booklist?:thumbup: |
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| Blackout-spec |
well put it this way, your pretty much guaranteed a job, but dont be picky then. you may end up working in cold lake or some bs. the jobs NAIT finds for you are non paying jobs. you will work full time just like everyone else all summer for 0$. But if you can find your own job, and their will be lots of listing come next feburary when employers are looking for summer students, then you will get paid whatever they are offering.
i got 15$/hr all summer. and i didnt complain once because i could have been working for free. during the summer practical, you are most likely to be in the water lab doing tests because nobody likes that job so you get it! but that doesnt matter because you will like it no matter what because you dont want to get a bad evaluation, or worse fired before you get enough hrs. i think you need 480hrs over the summer, otherwise you dont write your 3rd. and!! you HAVE TO pass your 4th because if you dont, all that work in the summer is useless because you need your 4th before you can start to get steam time for your 3rd. so if you fail your 4th class absa exams in april, your basically fucked!
and let me know what books you need because i only have a few. and try to buy your book used because once you pass your 4th and so on, you will never look at them again.
i paid about 3000$ i think for the first year, just for books.
total for 1 year, cost me about 8000$ the code books are what costs a lot. try to photocopy someones because once you get a job, every plant will have them and yours are now useless. |
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| teg91 |
Alright..Thanks for the heads up.. i will keep my eye open just cause.. lolz.. rather to be paid than not.. lolz..
yeah man for sure i will let you know for sure after i get my booklist.. damn.. those books are expensive! you bet i am going to try to get used books.. lol.. |
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| teg91 |
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Originally posted by Blackout-spec
you HAVE TO pass your 4th because if you dont, all that work in the summer is useless because you need your 4th before you can start to get steam time for your 3rd. so if you fail your 4th class absa exams in april, your basically fucked!
you bet i am going to work my ass off this fall.. :D one of the reason i am staying away from girls these days.. dont need dramas.. lol :thumbup: |
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| EK9Hatch |
Blackout-spec - Thank you for taking the time to give me that great advice :thumbup:
Couple other questions...
I'm 99% sure I want to take this...BUT
I'm feeling extremely overwhelmed. Here's why...
In high school I fucked around a lot and graduated with less than stellar marks. I read that only a basic Math, Physics, etc is required, with only a 50% mark needed. BUT...obviously there is only a limited space, so the better your marks, the better chance you have of getting in. On the NAIT website, it said that the average mark for getting in was 70%. If I remember correctly, I would need to improve a few of my marks to hit that.
Also, there is a Pre-Engineering Program, but it starts at the first of May until July :( I don't have enough time or money to take that course load right now.
So I don't think I'll get in this year :( I assume this program is only offered every September?
What other (if any) options do I have? :dunno:
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| Blackout-spec |
yah the 2 yr tech only starts every sept.
you can take the pre tech in sept or in january also then go right into the 2 yr tech in 09. i think the pre tech course is only 4 mths long.
Sure it only says you need basic classes to get in, but when i was in class, the guys that didnt have good grades in high school or the ppl that were not fresh with all the math, physics, and thermodynamics's were really finding it hard. taking the pre tech course is a huge bonus from what ive heard. when i applied the avg was 80% or something and i didnt get in, so i went to upgrade some marks to get above 80%, then when i went to apply again, they doubled the intake so the acceptance avg was only 70%.
i can almost guarantee you that if you just barely get in, you will find it tough. there was a big division in the class between the guys who got in with 80% averages, and the guys who only had a 70% avg. you will be really stressed out because they move fast and if you dont get it the first time around, you will be going home and trying to figure it out till 2am. they are very long days in class too, i started at 8 and went til 6 somedays, then you go home and study for 4 hrs because you have 4 fucking exams next week. theres always a test to write every week. after the first month, you into it hard.
also, about 1/3 of the instructors are useless and you wont learn a single thing from. for those courses your basically on your own to learn that course.
oh you also need a minimum of 80% attendance and 100% attendance for labs or you wont pass the course and get your diploma.
if you have a lot of free time and are dedicated enough, you can just buy the books and study on your own to write the absa exams. you dont even need to go to nait to become a PE. NAIT is basically just a full time tutor for the text books.
im studying on my own for the 2nd half of my 3rd class because i didnt take the 2nd year and only got the first half of it. |
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| teg91 |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
In high school I fucked around a lot and graduated with less than stellar marks. I read that only a basic Math, Physics, etc is required, with only a 50% mark needed. BUT...obviously there is only a limited space, so the better your marks, the better chance you have of getting in. On the NAIT website, it said that the average mark for getting in was 70%. If I remember correctly, I would need to improve a few of my marks to hit that.
Also, there is a Pre-Engineering Program, but it starts at the first of May until July :( I don't have enough time or money to take that course load right now.
So I don't think I'll get in this year :( I assume this program is only offered every September?
What other (if any) options do I have? :dunno:
Thanks guys,
Jamie
Dont worry i am sure you're not the only one that fucked around in highschool.. LOL I am one of them.. hahha... thats one of the reason i am upgrading.. And the other reason was just to refresh myself after so many years not doing math and physics..
I think the average they need is 65%, thats what i've been told anyway.. But try to keep your average above 65 before final.. My average for both math and physics right now is 80+ :D
If you cant do it this year, the other option is upgrade the courses next year and apply next year?
just fyi... put in your application as early as you can.. I handed mine is last year before
Christmas, and your career done asap after you hand in your application. I would suggest you go to Nait open house as well..
oh btw.. if they want to you take eng 30.. IT SUCK BALLS! i am lucky enough i got credit from my previous diploma.. I had to fight with the registra office for that credit.. LOL |
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| stealth |
Blackout-spec, for your 4th you need to take some form of schooling. ABSA made this a requirement within the past few years.
Also, the thing about not looking at your books again... Remember all ABSA exams are cumulative. So second class papers can have 4th class questions...
Expect to study your ass of in school like previously stated. |
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| Blackout-spec |
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Originally posted by stealth
Blackout-spec, for your 4th you need to take some form of schooling. ABSA made this a requirement within the past few years.
i just looked in the regs, no shit! that sucks! |
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| EK9Hatch |
Damn...I'm starting to get more and more nervous now! lol I guess its like anything though....if you study enough, you should be fine.
Looks like its a HUGE workload then. I would assume working even Part time would be extremely hard and not recommended?
How do you guys survive??? At 26 years old, I don't exactly have the luxury of going back home and living for free. I need some sort of income for rent, food, car payment, etc, etc
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| teg91 |
I dont think they offer part time.. i am not sure..
I am sure you will be able to get tru it.. I always tell myself to put all your heart into it.. Just like any other things..
sell some of your cars.. =D lolz..
i am not sure how the workload are.. But from what i read now.. i am nervous too.. lol :fingersx: |
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| teg91 |
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Originally posted by stealth
Crack sales.
haha.. that could get busy as well.. LOL |
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| EK9Hatch |
No I didn't mean taking the program part time, I mean working part time.
From what you guys are saying, it seems to be quite the work load and sounds like having even a part time job while going to school would be next to impossible.
So what I'm wondering is, how would you get by and pay the bills? I guess maybe take out some student loans? :dunno:
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| teg91 |
student loan it is.. =D..
i know some guys are takng EI as well.. lol |
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| Blackout-spec |
student loans are the only way to do it if you dont have cash saved up. some weeks its easier then others where you wont do much homework. its not every night that you will do a few hrs of studying. but there is a lot of exams, like 25 + the finals every semester so maby 35 exams. i think i wrote atleast 4-5 tests for every course. nobody checks homework, but if you dont do it, well goodluck on the tests. so its up to you how much homework you will have. i definatly didnt study 4 hrs every night. some weeks all i studied was 4 hrs but some weeks are insane for exams and assignments and all sorts of crap.
i took out student loans, and now that im done, work a few extra shifts and they are paid off in no time. dont worry about money because you will be making lots when your done.
i only worked 1 day a week just to make some cash, and i wouldnt want to work more then that. all i did was work 12 hrs every sat. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Can you get enough from Student loans to go to school AND live? What would be the average a student loan would give?
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| Blackout-spec |
everyone is different. its hard to tell.
you can go online and apply and it will tell you based on what you fill out how much they will give you. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Maybe I should work my ass off this next year to bring down some of my debt. Having a car loan, insurance, a visa bill, cell bill, rent, utilities, personal loan and other loose ends isn't good if I plan on going back to school full time.
Student loans will only cover School and basic living expenses correct?
Thanks for all the help again guys, I really appreciate it. I've been out of school for sooooo long, so this is all new to me.
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| teg91 |
| hehe hope to see you in school.. :thumbup: |
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| Blackout-spec |
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Student loans will only cover School and basic living expenses correct?
Jamie
99% sure thats correct. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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hehe hope to see you in school.. :thumbup:
Jason, are you going this September?
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| teg91 |
| yes i am... i am kinda nervous and anxious in the same time.. lol |
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| EK9Hatch |
You're lucky. I wish I was enrolled this year :(
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| teg91 |
Yeah i know.. I was lucky enough to realized, IT wasnt for me and i quickly enrolled and upgrade physics and math...
its not too late for you to do so yet anyway.. :beer: |
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| EK9Hatch |
Well with everything on my plate right now....I think the best solution is for me to continue working until this December, then take the Pre-Engineering Program in January. Then enroll for the Sept 09 Program.
I'm just anxious to get started. Sucks that it won't be for over a year from now :(
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| teg91 |
| yeah i think thats the only option you have.. But make sure you enroll early... like i mean before Christmas break.. I would suggest you talking to one of girls in registra office, to get some idea when you should register and stuff like that, just to make sure you get a spot.. I am sure you dont want to miss another semester... |
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| anschutz_93 |
Fuck me, all this talk of a 100k/yr job a couple years out of school makes me want to drop out of actual engineering. Then I remember that in order to make this 100k/year I would have to stay in this shit hole of a Province where it snows IN THE MIDDLE OF APRIL and summer is little more than a word on our calender.
It has been mentioned but I'm not entirely sure, you can challenge all exams until the 4th year which you must take formal schooling? These exams, are they similar to the CA exams were they occur once per year and only a certain quota are allowed to pass, or are they more low-key and just write them at nait on an afternoon of your choosing? How many writing periods are there per year? How fast can the entire (4 year?) program be finished if you challenge exams until your fourth year? |
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| Blackout-spec |
ok you have it all backwards, a 4th class ticket is the lowest, and a 1st class ticket is the highest. it would prob take you 5-10 yrs to get your 1st class if you go at it slowly.
you take a 2 year course at nait that prepairs you for the Alberta boilers branch exam aka ABSA exams. there are already pre set dates on when the exams are. you have to have all the pre req's that are listed in the Power Engineering Regulations before you are even allowed to write an exam. also, it now states in the regs that you must take a certified course in order to write your 4th class papers. the tests are not easy, and im 99% sure nobody has ever gotten 100%. there are question on these exams, that not even instructors or 1st class chiefs can answer. you are only allowed to fail 3 times before you are banned from writing any exam for 6 mths. you need a 65% to pass, a 64.9 and you will fail, they dont round up. the exams are generally 4 hrs long and you will need all 4 hrs, and there are in total 12 exams that you need to write in order to get your 2nd class. |
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| EK9Hatch |
Blackout-spec - Again, I would like to thank you for all your help! Mean a lot dude...you are helping me tremendously!
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| Blackout-spec |
im just trying to stay up late because i work tomorrow night and i need to sleep in so i can stay awake all night.
your welcome.. |
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| stealth |
O yea, one other piece of advice.
Your digestive system gets messed up on shift work.
Sometimes I am sleeping and I need to get up and take a shit. |
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| P_D |
quote:
Originally posted by liveforspd
I hear cock sucking is in high demand for people like you.
lol |
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| EK9Hatch |
quote:
Originally posted by stealth
O yea, one other piece of advice.
Your digestive system gets messed up on shift work.
Sometimes I am sleeping and I need to get up and take a shit.
I've worked the rigs for a couple years...so I know all about shift work. I work 1 week of days, 1 week of night.
Another question...
Do PE's usually work set schedules? like so many days worked, then so many off?
Are shifts usually 12 hours? 10 hours?
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| teg91 |
quote:
Originally posted by EK9Hatch
I've worked the rigs for a couple years...so I know all about shift work. I work 1 week of days, 1 week of night.
Another question...
Do PE's usually work set schedules? like so many days worked, then so many off?
Are shifts usually 12 hours? 10 hours?
Jamie
I think it depend where you work. But form what i heard is 12 hr shift.. not sure about the set schedules.. i am sure it is set..? |
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| Blackout-spec |
its always 12hrs in the industry.
our schedules are given to us at the begining of the year.
its already set on a rotation so we know what we are working for the rest of the year. if you ask me a specific date, i can tell you exactly what im working.
my schedule is 5 on 5 off, with a 4 on 4 off somewhere in that rotation. it allows for 2 weekends on, 2 off. it works out nice. |
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| 30psi_on4banger |
I dunno how much you riggers are pulling in lately but I've been working Road Construction in the city (7 months seasonal)
My first 7 months as a laborer I made 55k
My second season I pulled 66k
This season I am hoping to pull 75-83k because I'm an operator now so that came with an 8 dollar an hour raise.
(Im 20, turning 21 in august).
We work bullshit hours and no scheduled days off but I get to see my girlfriend every night and sleep in my own bed.
something to consider at least. |
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| Blackout-spec |
where the hell do you work that you dont have a set schedule?
thats the first time ive heard that. |
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| GQsmooth |
quote:
Originally posted by liveforspd
I hear cock sucking is in high demand for people like you.
:lol:
On a serious note, why not take a trade? |
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| stealth |
quote:
Originally posted by 30psi_on4banger
I dunno how much you riggers are pulling in lately but I've been working Road Construction in the city (7 months seasonal)
My first 7 months as a laborer I made 55k
My second season I pulled 66k
This season I am hoping to pull 75-83k because I'm an operator now so that came with an 8 dollar an hour raise.
(Im 20, turning 21 in august).
We work bullshit hours and no scheduled days off but I get to see my girlfriend every night and sleep in my own bed.
something to consider at least.
You are an equipment operator?
Also Jaimie, I know Crane Operators make good cash! 40-48$ an hour. Have you ever considered that? Only shitty part is that you may have to work out of town, or in Ft. Sask when these plants start construction...
I always considered taking that profession.
Their are work schedules out their where you are rotating on and off quite a bit. Such as 3 on 1 off 3 on 3 off, etc. |
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| Jayturbo |
Bad field of work IMO.
There IS NO MONEY IN OIL AND GAS AT ALL. |
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| 30psi_on4banger |
Well we start at 7am so I guess that is considered "scheduled" but then we work till whenever!
Early in the summer we work usually 12-14 hours a day. Then crunch time at the end of the summer/fall 14-20 hours a day.
The rule is they have to give us 4 days off in a month, not necessarily together or anything, but they usually don't even bother , I don't know how they get away with it but I gotta admit after summer and having all that cash in the bank its still really rewarding.
Pay and half after 3pm everyday
Double Time Sundays |
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| bapestaaa |
I've quickly scanned through all 7 pages and not to sure if someone has mentioned asking RADRIDE about Power Engineering.
I'm just finishing up high school and read up about Power Engineering. After learning that Rad has chosen this profession I decided to PM him and ask questions. He was actually nice enough to give me his phone number and talk to him over the phone. Rad has a lot of insight since he's been working this field for ~8 years.
He had told me that, through his experiences, if you are young and want mad money but at the sacrifice of your social life this is the job for you. Many times you are on the job long hours and such. I was also told that this is a seniority based field. Say you come out of school with a higher certificate than somebody who's been working on-site for 5 years, you are still at the bottom rungs of the ladder. Everyone above you has the first dibs on booking days off and such.
However, if you consider more of a city-sided job--something I am more interested in as well-- there is a commercial side to Power Engineering, this including working with refrigeration and such. Here you are able to go home at night, eat dinner with the family and have a nice sleep in your bed. Ofcourse the pay does start lower than you would working on the industrial side of PE. But from what I was told, the pay working in the commercial sector has the possibility to increase more since you are working with businesses and such whereas in the industrial side everything is structured.
Just passing on some info from one member to another. Hope this helps |
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| EK9Hatch |
quote:
Originally posted by 30psi_on4banger
I dunno how much you riggers are pulling in lately
If I work 28 days straight I gross just over $15,000.
Its good pay but the work sucks donkey diarrhea. Plus, being out of town for that long sucks.
I have another question....what are the chances of getting work in or near Edmonton after taking the 2 years at NAIT for Power Engineering Technology?
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| Blackout-spec |
| well i only did the first year then got hired on in ft sask. i know a few guys that got jobs local. |
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| Talon_66 |
This thread has been quite interesting, Ive been looking at Power engineering for over a year now.
Im more interested in taking it via correspondance |
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| EK9Hatch |
quote:
Originally posted by Talon_66
This thread has been quite interesting, Ive been looking at Power engineering for over a year now.
Im more interested in taking it via correspondance
How and where do you take this through Correspondence?
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| Talon_66 |
quote:
Originally posted by EK9Hatch
How and where do you take this through Correspondence?
Jamie
NAIT |
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| teg91 |
yeah i heard about the Correspondence NAIT offered.. But i am not sure how it works though..
Jamie, you can call Power Engineering office tomorrow before they close for the summer if you're interested.. |
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| greatboy |
Well i dunno if i have any valuable insight since Blackout-Spec basically answered every question lol. Hey Kyle...if u remember me from your class its Jonathan the azn guy lol.
I just finished my last exam yesterday and finally completed the 2-year Power Eng Tech program. I have my 3rd class and going to be writing 2nd class end of this month.
Overall..I thought this program was very easy to get through...considering if you manage your time correctly and don't procrastinate. Yes you have like 7-8 courses a semester so it averages about 30 hours of schooling a week. However most of the classes are listen and leave and forget about it until midterms and finals. The only classes you gotta work at is probably the math and calc courses...and the thermodynamics. In the first year the math is basically high school math perhaps even easier. The second year you have calculus but believe me it is a way easier course then the calc u take in high school Math31. The physics is high school physics as well. I went through my 2 years working a part time job and i didn't find i had a problem with not having time to study.
i currently have a job with the shell upgrader in fort saskatachewan. They only took 4 graduating students out of the 40ish students graduating. IMO i think getting a job around edmonton is pretty hard if you have no experience as it is highly competitive for the jobs since many ppl who working in ft mac want to come back to edmonton after making a whackload of cash. Currently there is a ton of jobs for power engineers in cold lake area where they think will be the next fort mac. The pay is also much lower in the city compared fort mac ...cold lake etc.
Most places in Edmonton require a 3rd Class which is minimum basically. Unless your working in heating plant. Shift work is really easy especially in places wehre the plant runs very smoothly 99% of the time and u won't have to do much work but i think there is a extreme boredom factor. If you can't keep yerself busy or entertained you will hate the job. |
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