| chukirps13 |
What's your opinion on knock off wheels versus the big name originatators?
I'm in the process of deciding if I want to drop that extra $xxx amount for a set of the real thing.
So far I'm feeling that knock offs would be the better option for me since:
-I managed to scratch my stock 17s in 4 months
-Lower chance of getting jacked
-If I do get jacked it won't be so bad
-I'd fit right in with all the knock offs on the road
-I save $xxx amount of money for vacation
but I'd be feeling guilty. |
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| Stainless |
| I don't think that real wheels are the best option for Edmonton. Just get the knock offs, and drive your car without worrying that you're going to hit a pothole, or get gravel damage. If you look at a brand like Rota, the quality is just fine, and they look good. 95% of the people around here wont be able to tell the difference anyways. |
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| gjgud |
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Originally posted by Stainless
I don't think that real wheels are the best option for Edmonton. Just get the knock offs, and drive your car without worrying that you're going to hit a pothole, or get gravel damage. If you look at a brand like Rota, the quality is just fine, and they look good. 95% of the people around here wont be able to tell the difference anyways.
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| silviadrftr |
| enjoy your knock off wheels....but why spend the big money on rota wheels when you can just buy speedy wheels???:dunno: |
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| RADRIDE |
Unless you are a serious track guy then I would buy knock offs for sure. They might weigh a little bit more than the originals but then so will your wallet.
R.K. |
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| jordanturbo |
| The only reason I am goin for the real deal is because I have the extra money laying around right now, and since my car will only be taken out on the odd weekend for a short cruise, or to the track, exposure to the elements, and risk of getting damaged is minumal. My friend's civic which will be daily drivien, bought a set of real baller work rims for special occasions, then a set of integra type r's and buddyclub's for daily use. If neither of these options are possible I would def be down with buying some knockoffs. |
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| Refresh |
if you got dough get something real
if you're hurtin get some rotas
both will do the same thing |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Nothing wrong with replica's. |
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| ae1969 |
Replicas are fine. They are typically much heavier than stock.
I am not a big fan of increasing unsprung weight but for the price difference the average driver will not notice the difference.
I use replicas on the street and the good stuff on the track. |
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| stealth |
I always bought replicas or cheap rims.
They are great if you want to save money, and want something that looks good.
As long as it looks descent go for it! Not everyone is going to come up to you and ask you how much you paid and what brand they are.
I recently bought some authentic rims, only reason I did was because they came in the offsets I wanted, and they look awesome. |
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| Refresh |
| One thing to keep in mind is that with places like Import Concern and all the JDM junk cars coming in, real wheels are now very attainable at prices close to rotas/konigs etc... So if buying used it would be real wheels for me. |
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| STiPWR |
I've seen broken replica's..... Having my spokes snap, or rim crack in half while driving isnt something I like to worry about when driving higher speeds.
I agree there are some exceptions out there.... But there is even pics online of Rota's breaking.
It totally depends on what you do with your car. I buy brand name rims because they are manufactured well with attention to detail. Depends on how you drive, and what you do with your car.
Rims/Rubber are what keeps your car on the road. I dont think its something you should cheap out on.. Maybe thats just me. |
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| wireless |
see.. way i see it
if ur not gonna be drifting or racing and in your daily routine or w.e u dont drive like a total fucking idiot rotas, or konigs, or w.e u choose aren't gonna break on you.
pictures of broken rotas are most likely from some 16 yeearold taking his 240 on a 120kmh drift and smoking a sidewalk |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
enjoy your knock off wheels....but why spend the big money on rota wheels when you can just buy speedy wheels???:dunno:
Big money on Rota's? lol Rota's are cheap! :p
I love Rota Wheels though...nothing wrong with them :)
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| zhao |
just learn about rims and what the difference is between high end rims and cheap crap.
and lol at rota's being real rims, they are cheap knock offs.
when you are talking 'real' rims, i assume you mean high end. high end would be volks, work, advan, bbs, etc. stuff that is about $800-$1000 a rim. there are advantages to those rims, but a lot of it is also the name. What you can assume with these is they are well made, usually are light (not always true though, volks are usually very light, but bbs can be somewhat heavy), and have good finishes that will hold up to using a long time (especially with bbs, not so much with say, volks)
then in the middle you have some well manufacturered rims that are decently priced and hold up well, a good example would be enkei's. you can get some very good rims in this bracket if you know what ur looking for.
then on the bottom end, you have the 'crap'. motegi, core racing, etc. these rims are usually heavy and have poor finishes, they are also often very weak compared to the more expensive rims, especially if they are 'light weight'. i've seen motegi's finish start to bubble and flake off, a true sign of crap, but hey, motegis are dirt cheap.
also, its a "price:quality" curve of what you get. you can get some absolute crap for dirt cheap, add a bit more $ and get some rims that are several times better for quality, add fair bit more $ and get some rims that are even a bit better, add a shit load more $ and get some rims that are a tiny bit better even. |
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| MR. BATES |
who really cares??? just run whatever YOU like. I have personally run both. I am the biggest wheel whore you can imagine. I personally like to run the real deal wheels for the street. on track days i prefer to use replicas. why?? if anything happens during track days, rotas are cheap to replace.
imagine replacing an MF8 or an sw388. there what?, like 400 a piece for 15's? ridiculous. I can pick up a single rota for like $130 and have it the next day. jmo |
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| EK9Hatch |
Another thing that I would like to add is, it really comes down to the vehicle you are putting the rims on.
If you have a Civic or sport compact, I wouldn't mind putting on some quality knock offs on it (Yes, there are Cheap and Quality knock offs)
But if I had a more expensive car like a Luxury Sport (something like a M3, SL500, etc) I would only use high quality wheels. (Work, HRE's I-fordge, etc)
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| AuZZZie |
I own Volks and i vote replicas.. This city is far to poorly fuckin maintained to drive on $6000 wheels.
In hind sight I wouldn't do it again. Then again in hindsight I woulda bought a truck for this shit hole. |
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| RADRIDE |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
I own Volks and i vote replicas.. This city is far to poorly fuckin maintained to drive on $6000 wheels.
In hind sight I wouldn't do it again. Then again in hindsight I woulda bought a truck for this shit hole.
Sounds like someone needs a hug.
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| nxs |
Knock off wheels are rice, straight up.
Shitty wheels for shitty cars, they are for cheap people who cheaped out. They are fine for winter duty or poor people though. BTW, add an extra X to "$XXX" cost of real rims. |
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| Sport ///Mode |
I would say you should get real wheels but buy them used.
I've heard of replica wheels warp/bending after hitting something as minor as a pothole. As well as finishes chipping and peeling, but atleast they are cheap to replace...cheaper to get a new rim than repair the old one! Also try looking into lower models in high end lines.
I know with BBS, they offer the CH series which is the only BBS wheel that isn't forged. It's significantly cheaper than all other models, looks great and is still decent quality. Post up pix once you decide so we can check em' out! |
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| Driven |
| I'd rather buy real wheels. Added bit of insurance. Yea.. you also work harder to get them because of the price.. but they're not gonna flake on you.. bend on you as easily.. not gonna weigh 44 lbs a wheel...and you'll have the satisfaction of being able to say you bought real wheels instead of knockoffs. |
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| Sport ///Mode |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Another thing that I would like to add is, it really comes down to the vehicle you are putting the rims on.
If you have a Civic or sport compact, I wouldn't mind putting on some quality knock offs on it (Yes, there are Cheap and Quality knock offs)
But if I had a more expensive car like a Luxury Sport (something like a M3, SL500, etc) I would only use high quality wheels. (Work, HRE's I-fordge, etc)
Jamie
Hehe Apparently HRE's, iForge, Volks, etc.. are only "mid range" when it comes to wheels. I know of people gettin' one of a kind custom made CCW's and straight ballin' brands like Neez and DPE. |
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| chukirps13 |
I was considering a set of rotas which would be around $500. My other choices are a set of Weds Sports, Gram Lights, or Work Emotions which range between 1200 to 1700 a set. Nothing too expensive either way.
I think all of these wheels are under 20 ilbs if not 18 ilbs. Anyone know what the stock 17 inch EP3 type r/CSX type S wheels weigh? |
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| chewy |
| I'm sorry but how can you even drive knowing you have FAKE wheels on?? If you have fake wheels on you are a poser and a ricer straight up. |
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| chewy |
If you can't afford real wheels then save up till you have enough money to buy REAL wheels??
Rocking fake wheels may fool others, but it won't fool your conscience :thumbup: |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by RADRIDE
Sounds like someone needs a hug.
R.K.
Trade you the hug for a plane ticket. :cool: |
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| RADRIDE |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
Trade you the hug for a plane ticket. :cool:
As long as you pack me in your luggage because I'm going with you.
R.K. |
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| zhao |
quote:
Originally posted by Sport ///Mode
Hehe Apparently HRE's, iForge, Volks, etc.. are only "mid range" when it comes to wheels. I know of people gettin' one of a kind custom made CCW's and straight ballin' brands like Neez and DPE.
IMO just because they are one of a kind, custom, or expensive, doesn't mean they are high end. i don't know a place on this planet that would call volks or bbs rims mid range. thats like saying Ferarri is a midrange car because some jackass custom made a car for you and decided to charge a couple million dollars. |
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| Sport ///Mode |
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Originally posted by zhao
IMO just because they are one of a kind, custom, or expensive, doesn't mean they are high end. i don't know a place on this planet that would call volks or bbs rims mid range. thats like saying Ferarri is a midrange car because some jackass custom made a car for you and decided to charge a couple million dollars.
Custom made rims will fit a car much like how a custom tailored suit would fit compared to an off the rack Boss suit. Clearing BBKs, crazy offsets and widths that just can't be found in your application.
I'm personally running a pair of 19" Forged BBS's but I know where they stand on the food chain. Hell, some OEM rims on highend cars are so awesome, there is no reason to even rock anything else. |
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| wireless |
do people make custom tires for custom rims? :dunno: id assume so
and an example of cars with crazy OEM rims. = any lambo murcielago
or e46/e92 m3's |
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| Sport ///Mode |
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Originally posted by wireless
do people make custom tires for custom rims? :dunno: id assume so
and an example of cars with crazy OEM rims. = any lambo murcielago
or e46/e92 m3's
I'd assume most tire companies have alot of sizes that people would be willing to pay alot more for, it's just not going to be availible on tirerack.com, etc.
When you want to talk about crazy ass OEM wheels, look no further than the Bugatti Veyron. Michelin spent millions develping tires just for that car. The set of tires cost $17k and the wheels alone are $43k. There's no doubt in my mind that other high end supercars have similar practices.
On the more reasonable side of the spectrum, the OEM BBS E46 M3 CSL wheels are undeniably the most commonly replicated and most popular wheel I know of. Yet, it's literally to impossible to get an authentic set because BMW will not sell CSL parts to non-CSL owners. |
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| zhao |
quote:
Originally posted by Sport ///Mode
Custom made rims will fit a car much like how a custom tailored suit would fit compared to an off the rack Boss suit. Clearing BBKs, crazy offsets and widths that just can't be found in your application.
I'm personally running a pair of 19" Forged BBS's but I know where they stand on the food chain. Hell, some OEM rims on highend cars are so awesome, there is no reason to even rock anything else.
you're only really talking about looks though. i care at least as much about quality and weight as i do about looks. paying some niche market (possibly fad) company for their recognized artistic ability does not mean they are going to make a good quality light weight rim. i could really care less what a rim looks like if it weighs a ton/is not made right.
as for clearing bbks, weird offsets, and weird widths, brand name manufacturers have crazy amounts of options for offsets, widths, heights. if its a car on the road worth putting rims on, there is a brand name rim that covers pretty much any application.
and further, if OZ, bbs, etc is good enough for professional racing, its good enough for me. i really don't see any advantages to stupidly expensive custom rims. |
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| Sport ///Mode |
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Originally posted by zhao
you're only really talking about looks though. i care at least as much about quality and weight as i do about looks. paying some niche market (possibly fad) company for their recognized artistic ability does not mean they are going to make a good quality light weight rim. i could really care less what a rim looks like if it weighs a ton/is not made right.
as for clearing bbks, weird offsets, and weird widths, brand name manufacturers have crazy amounts of options for offsets, widths, heights. if its a car on the road worth putting rims on, there is a brand name rim that covers pretty much any application.
and further, if OZ, bbs, etc is good enough for professional racing, its good enough for me. i really don't see any advantages to stupidly expensive custom rims.
I think you are misunderstanding me, when I'm talking about "high end and custom" rims. I'm refering to rims that are better engineered. Not customized by West Coast Customs to be pimpin' and blingin'. A set of wheels that are given total undivided attention rather than being made on an assembly line. I'm talking about perfectly balanced, forged wheels that are lighter and stronger because more attention to detail has been payed to them.
Off the shelf BBKs work well with off the shelf wheels, but when you are looking at 6 piston caliper and 14" rotors, custom wheels are usually the only way to go. If people are willing to roll their fenders to fit a specific size, they probably don't usually settle for sizes that are the norm.
Infact, brand name companies like HRE and iForge make tonnes of custom one off sets of wheels for customers all the time. Lots of people customize their 3piece HREs by having specific parts painted/coated for looks.
The BBS/OZ rims on race cars are more than likely custom made. The reason the same compnaies are often used is because the same companies usually sponsor the cars/event. They in turn, use the victories to build up their name with racing heritage so they can sell the mass produced wheels. Bottom line is that you get what you pay for. Custom, brand name, or replicas.... |
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| cupcake |
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Originally posted by chukirps13
I was considering a set of rotas which would be around $500. My other choices are a set of Weds Sports, Gram Lights, or Work Emotions which range between 1200 to 1700 a set. Nothing too expensive either way.
Thing is, if you say you're going to be feeling guilty for getting cheap replicas, then you know in a year or two, you'll be buying real ones. So instead of spending $1000 now on replicas (tires included) and then spending another $2000 on real ones (tires included again) in a year or so, just spend $2000 now. The $1000 you didn't spend will be saved money.
Check online sales. Some sites are having pretty awesome sale on their mid range wheels. I got my SA-70 28% off from TireRack. It looks like there are some wheels on TireTrend that are half off. No one at my work knows anything about cars, but when I look at my wheels, I can smile since I know I'm one step close to the C-One V1 Celica. |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by cupcake
Thing is, if you say you're going to be feeling guilty for getting cheap replicas, then you know in a year or two, you'll be buying real ones. So instead of spending $1000 now on replicas (tires included) and then spending another $2000 on real ones (tires included again) in a year or so, just spend $2000 now. The $1000 you didn't spend will be saved money.
Check online sales. Some sites are having pretty awesome sale on their mid range wheels. I got my SA-70 28% off from TireRack. It looks like there are some wheels on TireTrend that are half off. No one at my work knows anything about cars, but when I look at my wheels, I can smile since I know I'm one step close to the C-One V1 Celica.
tires included? bahahahaha.. :lol: |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
I own Volks and i vote replicas.. This city is far to poorly fuckin maintained to drive on $6000 wheels.
Well I'm glad there is someone who spent (slightly) more on rims than I did... haha. :thumbup:
And quit complaining about your hair sized scratch on your dish that ONLY YOU can see jayson .. lol |
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| cupcake |
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Originally posted by Driven
tires included? bahahahaha.. :lol:
Want me to show you a receipt?
Like I said, I got my WedsSports on sale and I believe my Spec 2s were on sale too. Maybe I just got lucky. But if you don't believe me, I have the receipt to prove I spent $1800 for everything, including shipping & broker fee (or whatever it is). |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by cupcake
Want me to show you a receipt?
Like I said, I got my WedsSports on sale and I believe my Spec 2s were on sale too. Maybe I just got lucky. But if you don't believe me, I have the receipt to prove I spent $1800 for everything, including shipping & broker fee (or whatever it is).
POST PICS! |
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| Driven |
quote:
Originally posted by cupcake
Want me to show you a receipt?
Like I said, I got my WedsSports on sale and I believe my Spec 2s were on sale too. Maybe I just got lucky. But if you don't believe me, I have the receipt to prove I spent $1800 for everything, including shipping & broker fee (or whatever it is).
No i don't care. Those must be pretty small wheels. As most people who buy quality wheels are paying 2 grand for the wheels alone.. if not more. On top of that.. tires in those sizes.. real sizes...cost alot more than for your 15x6's.
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Originally posted by STiPWR
Well I'm glad there is someone who spent (slightly) more on rims than I did... haha. :thumbup:
And quit complaining about your hair sized scratch on your dish that ONLY YOU can see jayson .. lol
I didn't see his scratch either? :dunno: ..lol |
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| silviadrftr |
you dont need to spend 6k on wheels on tires...there are always deals to be found! work termist 18x9 +9 and 18x10 +18 WITH tires can you guess what i paid????
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
[B]you dont need to spend 6k on wheels on tires...there are always deals to be found! work termist 18x9 +9 and 18x10 +18 WITH tires can you guess what i paid????
1500? and yes.. i agree that you can find real high quality wheels used.. for alot better prices than new. Although some people have baller-status and just buy everything new. |
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| chukirps13 |
quote:
Originally posted by Driven
No i don't care. Those must be pretty small wheels. As most people who buy quality wheels are paying 2 grand for the wheels alone.. if not more. On top of that.. tires in those sizes.. real sizes...cost alot more than for your 15x6's.
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Weds/SA-70F.htm |
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| silviadrftr |
quote:
Originally posted by Driven
1500? and yes.. i agree that you can find real high quality wheels used.. for alot better prices than used. Although some people have baller-status and just buy everything new.
that isnt baller status to me, thats money wasting...wheels new or used do the same thing....those 6k wheels and tires can be found for 2k all over the place in the states and japan and that 4k can be used for go fast parts haha no offence to those who spent that much! |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
that isnt baller status to me, thats money wasting...wheels new or used do the same thing....those 6k wheels and tires can be found for 2k all over the place in the states and japan and that 4k can be used for go fast parts haha no offence to those who spent that much!
Yea i know what your saying.. and i would do the same. Great deals from yahoo auctions and the us. :beer: |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
those wheels are gross.
i don't even see 18x10.5 or bigger.. :dunno: ..:( |
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| chukirps13 |
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
those wheels are gross.
Just showing that it was possible for cupcake to purchace whatever wheels for whatever price. |
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| chukirps13 |
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Originally posted by Driven
Yea i know what your saying.. and i would do the same. Great deals from yahoo auctions and the us. :beer:
Yahoo Japan FTW, shipping on the other hand sucks. |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by chukirps13
Yahoo Japan FTW, shipping on the other hand sucks.
Depends who you know.
And nobody was saying they didn't believe her about the wheels she bought... what we're saying is.. people buy wheels alot bigger than what she did. Atleast she purchased real wheels and not knockoffs. i can give a :thumbup: to that.
Here's another good argument... people buying nice wheels.. and crappy tires for them. WTF? |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by silviadrftr
that isnt baller status to me, thats money wasting...wheels new or used do the same thing....those 6k wheels and tires can be found for 2k all over the place in the states and japan and that 4k can be used for go fast parts haha no offence to those who spent that much!
Find me Volk GT-S in Gold with +17/+18 Offset in a 19/10.5 for $2000.
Yea thats what i thought. Put a pipe in it. :rolleyes: |
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| zhao |
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
those wheels are gross.
says the guy with the ugly messed up looking silvia. |
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| zhao |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
Find me Volk GT-S in Gold with +17/+18 Offset in a 19/10.5 for $2000.
Yea thats what i thought. Put a pipe in it. :rolleyes:
ya pretty much, gl finding some LE37s for a specific car in a specific color also. also try to find some spoon sw388 rims too. thats just not happening unless u want to spend a year or 2 looking. some stuff needs to be bought new, or found used for the price it was new pretty much. |
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| cupcake |
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Originally posted by Driven
No i don't care. Those must be pretty small wheels. As most people who buy quality wheels are paying 2 grand for the wheels alone.. if not more. On top of that.. tires in those sizes.. real sizes...cost alot more than for your 15x6's.
Why would I buy wheels that are the same size as my stocks? They're 17x7.5. Way to make assumptions, :asshole: !
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Originally posted by silviadrftr
those wheels are gross.
I'll admit that the photo they have sucks. If I looked at the photo, I wouldn't have bought it either.
As for pictures of my wheels, I just had to take them off for winters. :( Unless you meant the receipt. |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by Refresh
http://www.vancouvercivics.com/foru...d.php?tid=74282
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here you go - spoon wheels for cheap... there is deals to be had you just got to look a bit... i got my mugen MF8's for same price as new rotas :)
Great.. spoon wheels look like fucking shit... i don't care what anyone says... also 4 lug? That's for faggots.. along with 15x6.5 size... |
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| Refresh |
| Yeah - that extra lug sure makes a difference... |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by Refresh
http://www.vancouvercivics.com/foru...d.php?tid=74282
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here you go - spoon wheels for cheap... there is deals to be had you just got to look a bit... i got my mugen MF8's for same price as new rotas :)
Even though those wheels are not in perfect shape, that is a good deal. If I was to that stage of my EG build, I would seriously consider them.
Good find.
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by zhao
ya pretty much, gl finding some LE37s for a specific car in a specific color also. also try to find some spoon sw388 rims too. thats just not happening unless u want to spend a year or 2 looking. some stuff needs to be bought new, or found used for the price it was new pretty much.
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| EK9Hatch |
Aaron...I just noticed your Avatar.... ABOUT MOTHERFUCKIN TIME!!!! :D:thumbup:
Jamie |
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| Soulfly |
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Originally posted by Driven
Great.. spoon wheels look like fucking shit... i don't care what anyone says... also 4 lug? That's for faggots.. along with 15x6.5 size...
You can't start hating on 4 lugs.. and 15"... Seriously...
The people, along with myself, that rock 15" Rims, do it because there is a performance factor to be had and also a certain percentage of tire height that doesn't allow the wheel to come in contact with a pothole.
When you think about it... we run a 15" rim with a 50 series tire.. What do you run? a 17" rim with a 50-40 series tire depending on wheel width?
Don't hate on 4 lugs, Hate on the SMART Cars with only 3 lugs... |
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| STiPWR |
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Originally posted by EK9Hatch
Aaron...I just noticed your Avatar.... ABOUT MOTHERFUCKIN TIME!!!! :D:thumbup:
Jamie
Thanks dawg! I need a new one with my lip on. |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by STiPWR
Thanks dawg! I need a new one with my lip on.
And some snow in the background. And if you come near my house with christmas carols then we'll add some custom pin striping too. :D |
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| Driven |
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Originally posted by Soulfly
You can't start hating on 4 lugs.. and 15"... Seriously...
The people, along with myself, that rock 15" Rims, do it because there is a performance factor to be had and also a certain percentage of tire height that doesn't allow the wheel to come in contact with a pothole.
When you think about it... we run a 15" rim with a 50 series tire.. What do you run? a 17" rim with a 50-40 series tire depending on wheel width?
Don't hate on 4 lugs, Hate on the SMART Cars with only 3 lugs...
I'm honestly just hatin cause i missed the gym and it's snowing now. The only reason you'd wanna run small wheels of because of weight savings. Who cares about potholes? Your precious rotas cost fuck all. I could understand if you were running real GAB's.. but ya.. that's not the case.
Yea don't take it personally.. i just need to lift weights otherwise i'm an asshole. |
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| EK9Hatch |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
And some snow in the background. And if you come near my house with christmas carols then we'll add some custom pin striping too. :D
:lol:
Jamie |
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| Soulfly |
quote:
Originally posted by Driven
I'm honestly just hatin cause i missed the gym and it's snowing now. The only reason you'd wanna run small wheels of because of weight savings. Who cares about potholes? Your precious rotas cost fuck all. I could understand if you were running real GAB's.. but ya.. that's not the case.
Yea don't take it personally.. i just need to lift weights otherwise i'm an asshole.
I only like them because they are pretty simple design, and they are Red... Also.. Regardless of the wheel, be it real or not... I'd rather not have to buy 5 or 6 wheels when I should only need to buy 4. Stupid potholes.... Actually.. I take that back.. it's not even about the potholes... It's more so, the fucking Train tracks... FUCK those piss me off.. I suspect my brand new suspension will be blown in a few months here... :mad: |
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| what kinda suspension you get? |
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I'd only buy real if I was making a show/track car or if there wasn't a knock off that was nice enough.
stuff like Advan / I-Forged you can't cheap out on with replicas. |
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