| grego |
I got a letter in the mail from impark saying I owe them $68, and if not paid by a certain date they will take further action etc.
It had the date and time of the infraction, and I remember the night and know that yes I was parked in one of their lots after 6pm, as the ticket states. (I think it was about 11pm)
Regardless when and where, I did not get a physical ticket on my windshield; I remember coming out and mentioning that I probably got a ticket, but alas there was none. So obviously I am surprised to get this letter.
Anyone know what I can or cannot do?
Thanks. |
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| Driven |
Throw that shit right into the fucking garbage.
Dead serious.. they can't do shit. |
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| sikid111 |
| would'nt it go to collections sooner or later?? |
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| shortie |
no one pays impark tickets...
at least no one I know does. they can't do crap-all and arent going to waste the money trying to go to collections or legal action over 70bucks :rolleyes:
when I worked at the hospital we all just parked there. I have several tickets from them. the trick is to not get so many as to land on their 'tow' list, because that they will do.
otherwise just throw them out and enjoy your day |
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| arabian_ryda |
haha speaking of the devil i got one in the mail today too. 120 bucks or else they will send me to collection funny thing is i dont use there lots anymore so i cant get towed.
and for any1 that lands on there tow list just change your plate every couple months and your good to go. |
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| stealth |
I just throw mine out.
A few times I called in and told them that their ticket dispenser was f-ed up and took my money. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
Unlike city tickets, Impark doesn't have the ability to prevent you from using motor vehicle services. The tickets aren't issued by law enforcement personnel, so they don't carry the same kind of weight. The tickets are issued under private property bylaws, instead of specific municipal bylaws, so enforcement is entirely up to the company.
This pretty much limits what they can do to towing your car away, if it's left on their property. If it is not on their property, they can't touch it. They also won't check the tow list unless you're parked in the lot with no payment ticket.
Technically, they COULD hire a collections agency, but most of these agencies won't be interested in doing much for the tiny commissions for successful collection. They also don't have much leverage on you, which makes even that tiny commission unlikely.
It is, however, best if you can avoid the situation. Nobody wants to get their car towed, right? |
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| white99GT |
Yeah, I honestly wouldn't worry. I've had numerous tickets from them and encountered just about every conceivable situation parking in their lots, from running up to stop the tow truck driver from towing my car to being ripped off by their crooked ticket dispensing machines. I've had them come after me with collection agencies and I never paid a dime. I never noticed anything on my credit bureaus, either.
When I used to park downtown just about every day back when they had the machines that would spit out the different colored tickets a la the vertical quarter/loonie washing-machine style coin inserters I'd buy a bunch of tickets over the course of a month or so and when I was done for the day I'd collect them in my glovebox. Soon enough I'd have enough of each color and when I'd pull into their lot at the start of the day I'd just fish out whatever color I needed and put it on my dash. Never had a problem that way, and it was free parking. :lol: |
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| grego |
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Originally posted by white99GT
Yeah, I honestly wouldn't worry. I've had numerous tickets from them and encountered just about every conceivable situation parking in their lots, from running up to stop the tow truck driver from towing my car to being ripped off by their crooked ticket dispensing machines. I've had them come after me with collection agencies and I never paid a dime. I never noticed anything on my credit bureaus, either.
When I used to park downtown just about every day back when they had the machines that would spit out the different colored tickets a la the vertical quarter/loonie washing-machine style coin inserters I'd buy a bunch of tickets over the course of a month or so and when I was done for the day I'd collect them in my glovebox. Soon enough I'd have enough of each color and when I'd pull into their lot at the start of the day I'd just fish out whatever color I needed and put it on my dash. Never had a problem that way, and it was free parking. :lol:
Lol nice job. Yea I will let it go and see what happens. I got a few imparks in the past and never paid them, this is the first time I've received a letter in the mail though, and this time I truly never received the ticket. |
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| AuZZZie |
ImPark CANNOT send it too collections. It is not LEGALLY possible. They cannot prove who was driving the vehicle.
Think of it like a photo radar ticket. The same reason you don't get demerits.
Been over this beore. |
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| toyotajosh |
| I think I have like 10 tickets and they tried to tow my car one time but I got out there in time and gave the driver like $40 and I havent heard from impark since. He told me that if I wanted to park there again that I beter get a new plate if I dont pay the tickets. |
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| HEWSINATOR |
| It seems like people have no problem not paying for parking and then telling Impark to stuff it. I have a hard time telling this apart from stealing a hard good from a store. It is their business, they pay for the lots and their operation and maintenance. |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by HEWSINATOR
It is their business, they pay for the lots and their operation and maintenance.
If you think they pay for maintenance. You've never parked in an Impark lot. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
What or even whether they pay for lot maintenance is beside the point. You are still using a service that they provide without paying.
It's one thing if the ticket dispenser took your money and didn't spit out a ticket. It's happened to me before. No guilt about not paying the ticket. I told them that I paid for parking, never paid the ticket. Got a notice a while later that I was on their tow list. I ignored that.
As for them being able to send it to collections, it doesn't matter if they can prove who was driving the car, they only need to be able to prove that your car was parked without proof of payment. However, like I said earlier, that's not exactly a collection that an agency is going to trip overthemselves to get. |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by Dan_Gyoba
at.
As for them being able to send it to collections, it doesn't matter if they can prove who was driving the car, they only need to be able to prove that your car was parked without proof of payment. However, like I said earlier, that's not exactly a collection that an agency is going to trip overthemselves to get.
No your wrong. You CANNOT report it to an individuals credit report without proof of the individual.
It doesn't matter if collection agencies would take them as a client or not. Because they can't legally report to the bureau. I've look into it before.
By your reasoning companies would have 1000 negative hits on company vehicles. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
By the same turn, the city should be unable to enforce photo radar tickets, as per what you're saying. Also, you'll find that enforement is a completely different matter if you get a parking ticket from the city.
Go ahead, try to renew your driver's license or registration with an unpaid photo radar ticket. You can't. Why? Because the charge is "being the registered owner of..." -- which you are.
Similarly, the parking ticket is issued against the car, and by extension, the car's owner. Get a parking ticket (or photo radar ticket) in a rental car, and the rental company WILL get a letter, and the credit card authorisation that you left as part of the rental agreement will be charged to cover it.
Get a parking ticket (or photo radar ticket) in a company car, and your boss will probably dock your wages to cover it. It's a pretty standard clause in company car contracts.
What Impark (Or other parking lot company) lacks is an effective means of collection.
As I mentioned before, if you get a parking ticket from the city, they have no more proof than Impark about who did the parking, but what they do have are effective means to enfore payment. Some cities can even place a lien against the vehicle, which gives them the right to come and take it from your home.
Also, because the city's parking restrictions are enacted in law, the parking offence becomes one that you can be convicted of in a court, which makes it a more serious matter. Impark does not have this distinction. |
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| Ayeso |
Jaysons point was that...
That a collection agency MAY take on the claim but they cannot affect your credit rating because they cannot prove the induvidual who was driving. They can however try and make you pay it.
Your example of photo radar FURTHER proves the point they cannot prove who was driving therefore they CANNOT give you demerits or anything BUT they can make you pay.
Its the same with impark, they can try and make you pay but CANNOT effect your credit rating?
At least thats what I get from his post.. and your post further proves the point.
If they could then photo radar tickets would go to the owners license and effect his insurance ratings etc.. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
I agree, that they cannot affect your credit rating, but not for the reasons listed. The ticket is issued to the vehicle owner, not to the person driving/parking it. That has nothing to do with who owes the money. I also never said anything about it affecting your credit rating, only that they CAN take it to a collection agency. MY point was that the collection agencies don't WANT the business, since there's really nothing that they can do. They've got no legal recourse except to say that they'll tow the car if it's found in Impark property (The only place they have the right). They can't put a lien against the car, and can't even affect your credit rating.
As such, I was simply responding to the "No, you're wrong. Even in the quoted part of AuZZZie's post, there's nothing in there that (I think) even suggests a credit bureau, only collection agencies, which is entirely a separate matter.
What I'd initially read into AuZZZie's post:
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Originally posted by AuZZZie:
ImPark CANNOT send it too collections. It is not LEGALLY possible. They cannot prove who was driving the vehicle.
This is incorrect, for two reasons.
1. They CAN attempt to hire a collection agency to come after you for money. This does not imply a mark against a credit rating. I can hire a collection agency to attempt to collect on an invoice that I send to my customer, too, but it won't affect their credit rating.
2. It doesn't matter if they can prove who was driving the vehicle. Not one iota. The ticket is issued against the vehicle, and by extension the owner, not the driver. This has nothing to do with the company's ability to call in collections, or even affect a credit rating.
If you skip out on a city issues parking ticket, and leave the province, that will affect your credit rating, even though they can't prove you were driving the car, it doesn't matter. The difference here is that you now owe a court ordered fine, as opposed to the purely private sector fine levied by Impark. This was my original point, which AuZZZie told me I was wrong about -- which I am not. I am not the one to draw the parallel between photo radar and a parking ticket, my comparison was between a city bylaw ticket and an Impark ticket. |
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| Bad Egg |
I thought the government shut down IMPARK's ability to search registries by license plate number, or they at least they did for awhile. That meant they couldn't hound people for their parking lot tickets, since they had no way of knowing who the owner was. They must have opened up the registry to IMPARK again if people are getting letters in the mail again.
Anybody know when this changed? |
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| AuZZZie |
Holy fuck. I'm not gonna waste my time.
The point is. Collection agency, weather they take the client or not. CANNOT report to any of the bureaus on a private parking ticket like Impark.
END OF STORY. I've looked into. If you'd like to do the same go ahead cause your just talking out your ass. |
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| white99GT |
Impark deserves what they get. Their machines suck, they rip you off, the lots are in horrible condition, and they gouge just because they can.
They can eat my ass with a spoon. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
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Originally posted by AuZZZie
Holy fuck. I'm not gonna waste my time.
The point which you seem to be missing is that I do not and have never disputed this. |
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| sliptank |
Aren't University of Alberta tickets pretty much the same?
I have a few tickets in arrears there, but I'm no longer a student so I doubt it really affects me, other than the possibility of ending up on their tow list. |
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| shortie |
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Originally posted by sliptank
Aren't University of Alberta tickets pretty much the same?
I have a few tickets in arrears there, but I'm no longer a student so I doubt it really affects me, other than the possibility of ending up on their tow list.
all they do is tack it on your studen profile so you owe unpaid tickets at the end of the year and you cannot graduate, register for classes, or get transcripts, etc... doesnt matter for the non-students, unless you get on a tow list or something, like you said |
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