| wanarace |
My question isn't necessarily about the tint ticket. But about repeat tickets.
Can the fine for repeat tint tickets ever increase? I had an RC tell me that the next time I am caught with tinted windows the ticket will double. Is this possible or is it as ludicrous as it sounds? Also he says that warning has been "entered in the system" so next time the car will be towed for sure. Any truth to this? Once again I am going with bullshit but you never know. Do past traffic convictions get displayed when running your info through the system? Example: When running your info the officer sees that you already have two previous tint tickets. That would be one serious conflict of interest.
My story:
I recently received a tint ticket while being pulled over for speeding. The officer was nice enough to offer that I remove the tint immediately or take the ticket. I chose the ticket. That same day I got pulled over again for the tint. I told the 2nd officer I already got a tint ticket and I am going to remove when i get it back to Edmonton. He said ok, but you better do it or the next time the ticket fine will double and that he made a "note" in the system.
Thank you,
Steve |
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| JoshP2002 |
Im curious about the answer to this as well. If Im offered the ticket or removal, I think I'll just remove mine as Ive already gotten my first ticket.
Ive heard many scenarios that could happen - a lot of them seem far fetched though. Otherwise I cant imagine you would see so much tinting on the front windows of vehicles? In G.P. and Fort Mac its so common. |
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| AudiInProgress |
No... They cannot just arbitrarily increase the fine... Fine's have set amounts. That cop was just being assertive and trying to scare you... INTO DOING THE RIGHT THING.
Take off your fucking tint.
And quit speeding.
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| dtjohnst |
Or...perhaps he was saying that while the 1st ticket was the $57 "you have tint on your window" ticket, if he stopped the OP again he'd give him the $115 "you can't see properly through your windshield" ticket, which is $1 more than double the fine.
Would the 2nd one hold up in court without being reduced? ....maybe. Depends on who presides. |
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| GOT BOOST |
Me: Yes sir, have a nice day sir.
It is a slightly better answer than “Put it on my tab”. :lol:
A few weeks later have a discussion with the CP.
I think there would be some sort of record that they can pull up, but why worry about it. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Who said anything about a windshield? |
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| ~sanj~ |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
Or...perhaps he was saying that while the 1st ticket was the $57 "you have tint on your window" ticket, if he stopped the OP again he'd give him the $115 "you can't see properly through your windshield" ticket, which is $1 more than double the fine.
Would the 2nd one hold up in court without being reduced? ....maybe. Depends on who presides.
holy shit, your back???
i thought you were done posting on 780, or am i missing something. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Who said anything about a windshield?
I did. It's the only possible way I could see a ticket doubling. Do you have an alternative that doesn't involve a windshield?
quote:
Originally posted by ~sanj~
holy shit, your back???
i thought you were done posting on 780, or am i missing something.
No, I'm not back. I come to trade PM's with the guy who's babysitting my car since I gotta get it squared away so my company with ship it and figure while I'm here I'll come for a nice laugh. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
I did. It's the only possible way I could see a ticket doubling. Do you have an alternative that doesn't involve a windshield?
No, I'm not back. I come to trade PM's with the guy who's babysitting my car since I gotta get it squared away so my company with ship it and figure while I'm here I'll come for a nice laugh.
Negative. If the officer wants to be less than pleasant to deal with he can issue the $115.00 tint ticket straight up.
Happened to me. I fought it and won. |
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| JoshP2002 |
quote:
Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Negative. If the officer wants to be less than pleasant to deal with he can issue the $115.00 tint ticket straight up.
Happened to me. I fought it and won.
How do you go about fighting a tint ticket? |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by JoshP2002
How do you go about fighting a tint ticket?
Same way you do any other ticket. :D
Go have a conversation with the CP well before the court date.
Look sharp, clean, polished shoes (if wearing a suit). Be polite and respectful.
Thank them for taking the time out of their busy day to see you. (no one says it) and extend your hand to shake theirs. 99% chance they will not shake it, so do not be offended. Better to offer a gesture of courtesy and be rejected. The gesture should go along way in disarming the CP and letting him or her know you are not a tool.
Don’t try to BS and say you don’t have tint.
Say you have it, and what the percentage is. If you do not know, take an educated guess. Ie) 10-15%? In the front and limo in the rear. Tell them you can see the driver from outside. Let them know you just wanted to have more of a conversation around it.
They may reduce it, or throw it out. In my case he threw it out.
Hope it works out for you. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Negative. If the officer wants to be less than pleasant to deal with he can issue the $115.00 tint ticket straight up.
Happened to me. I fought it and won.
Naturally, but he can't go back in time and re-issue the one that another officer already gave for $115, so the only way he could double the fine on the next ticket is if he issued it, the tint was on the windshield, and he issued it for obstructed view on the windshield.
I'm not generalizing, I'm speaking to the OP's specific situation. Naturally there's any number of scenarios that could occur to any number of people under a variety of situations. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
Naturally, but he can't go back in time and re-issue the one that another officer already gave for $115, so the only way he could double the fine on the next ticket is if he issued it, the tint was on the windshield, and he issued it for obstructed view on the windshield.
I'm not generalizing, I'm speaking to the OP's specific situation. Naturally there's any number of scenarios that could occur to any number of people under a variety of situations.
I re read the op post and did not see anything about a windshield being tinted. :dunno: I read about the windows, but nothing about a tinted windshield.
How can the officer issue a ticket for a “tinted windshield” and be taken seriously when the windshield is not tinted?
The ticket for $57.00 is something along the lines of a non oem equipment violation. The $115.00 I had received was for “Tinted front windows” |
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| AudiInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Who said anything about a windshield?
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| JoshP2002 |
| Ive been told on the second time that you get a tint ticket they can raise the fine/make you remove it.. and if they let you go, but you get caught a third time you're screwed. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
I had been told at one time (And never pushed the matter at all) that there was the $57 ticket, and the $115 ticket which also came with an order to remove as part of the specified penalty.
What I was given to understand was that upon being found (oor pleading) guilty to that charge, you also had to remove the tint, or additional charges (contempt of court?) could be laid.
Dunno how accurate this is.
For me, I don't want to give the police any more excuses to pull me over. When I swapped over my doors for ones in better condition (from my parts car) I removed the tint that was on the windows. (GOT_BOOST can confirm, since he was the one who bolted the new doors on. :D) The tint was mild enough that I doubt it would EVER have been a problem, It looked like somewhere between 35 and 50%. I pulled it off anyway. I don't need the ticket. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by JoshP2002
Ive been told on the second time that you get a tint ticket they can raise the fine/make you remove it.. and if they let you go, but you get caught a third time you're screwed.
It could be argued that by removing the tint on that spot will leave a sticky residue that makes it more difficult to see out of and unsafe to drive.
I suppose if push came to shove, I could always call AMA and have them tow my car back to my house with the Tint on then have another conversation to the CP.
I doubt my next ticket will be $230.00 for tint. I could be wrong on that though. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Gyoba
I had been told at one time (And never pushed the matter at all) that there was the $57 ticket, and the $115 ticket which also came with an order to remove as part of the specified penalty.
What I was given to understand was that upon being found (oor pleading) guilty to that charge, you also had to remove the tint, or additional charges (contempt of court?) could be laid.
Dunno how accurate this is.
For me, I don't want to give the police any more excuses to pull me over. When I swapped over my doors for ones in better condition (from my parts car) I removed the tint that was on the windows. (GOT_BOOST can confirm, since he was the one who bolted the new doors on. :D) The tint was mild enough that I doubt it would EVER have been a problem, It looked like somewhere between 35 and 50%. I pulled it off anyway. I don't need the ticket.
I do not know how accurate that is. I was TOLD the second I handed over my licence and registration in the Macs store parking lot that I was getting 2 tickets. 1 for tint, the other for seatbelt violation.
It was the first and ONLY run in I had with the EPS about the tint on the Avalon.
I can confirm you had switched over the non tinted windows to the supra. I do remember switching over the doors...that was a fun project. :D |
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| aarrgghh |
Blocker I'm sure will correct me, but as I recall there's the $57 fine for general equipment not up to reg's and the specific more expensive tint ticket. They come from different parts of the reg's (can't be bothered to look them up) and its the officers discretion as to which one he uses. If you get the $57 one he was trying to give you a break.
Mike, I've had to pull my tint on my last car a couple of times on the street, and it doesn't impact visibility or cause any problems unless you try to lower the windows. After the first ticket I got with the car (the low one) I always next got the high ticket or an offer to skip the ticket if I pulled the tint right there, needless to say I simply pulled and went to a lighter shade (car was black with a black interior and no ac).
Its also a pain in the ass to remove the glue, but simple green, a razor blade and elbow grease, followed by a normal glass cleaner works very well. Things to remember for your next ticket :lol: |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by aarrgghh
Blocker I'm sure will correct me, but as I recall there's the $57 fine for general equipment not up to reg's and the specific more expensive tint ticket. They come from different parts of the reg's (can't be bothered to look them up) and its the officers discretion as to which one he uses. If you get the $57 one he was trying to give you a break.
Mike, I've had to pull my tint on my last car a couple of times on the street, and it doesn't impact visibility or cause any problems unless you try to lower the windows. After the first ticket I got with the car (the low one) I always next got the high ticket or an offer to skip the ticket if I pulled the tint right there, needless to say I simply pulled and went to a lighter shade (car was black with a black interior and no ac).
Its also a pain in the ass to remove the glue, but simple green, a razor blade and elbow grease, followed by a normal glass cleaner works very well. Things to remember for your next ticket :lol:
:lol:
I will take my ticket and make a trip to the CP to have a discussion. :lol:
I have not removed the tint on my cars, nor do I have any intention to. I do not believe that they can seize your car for having tinted windows. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by GOT BOOST
:lol:
I will take my ticket and make a trip to the CP to have a discussion. :lol:
I have not removed the tint on my cars, nor do I have any intention to. I do not believe that they can seize your car for having tinted windows.
Why not? they can impound for improper lights, it's an equipment violation, if they "deem it a safety hazzard" do they not have the power to impound it? |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
Why not? they can impound for improper lights, it's an equipment violation, if they "deem it a safety hazzard" do they not have the power to impound it?
I would have to go back and search the regs. Perhaps blocker could clarify that.
However to impound a vehcile for tinted windows would be the funniest thing I have heard yet.
If it happened to me, I would be drafting up a formal letter of complaint that night to the Chief, the officer, the supervisor of the officer and also to the appropriate channels.
Not to say I go out looking for troubble, but if my car were to get impounded for something like tinted windows, I would be rather annoyed.
Using the logic you quoted you could be impounded for a burned out tail light as it is an equiptment violation and could be deemed a saftey hazzard. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by GOT BOOST
I would have to go back and search the regs. Perhaps blocker could clarify that.
However to impound a vehcile for tinted windows would be the funniest thing I have heard yet.
If it happened to me, I would be drafting up a formal letter of complaint that night to the Chief, the officer, the supervisor of the officer and also to the appropriate channels.
Not to say I go out looking for troubble, but if my car were to get impounded for something like tinted windows, I would be rather annoyed.
Using the logic you quoted you could be impounded for a burned out tail light as it is an equiptment violation and could be deemed a saftey hazzard.
Which is true... but most times with a burnt out bulb they probably give a chance to get it fixed...
With my bulb issue a couple years back the cop would have towed my car(I had white Led up front, check the LED thread for a pic) if I didn't have stocker bulbs in the car... it was fricking -45, middle of no where, literally, took me 90 min to take them out and put the stocekrs in.. and yup he woulda towed it.. |
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| BLOCKER |
You can not have your vehicle siezed for a simple equipment violation, that being said, if you do have an equipment violation the officer can sieze you licence plate and hold it untill the vehicle has been brought up to snuff...
Your thinking so what, he siezed my licence plate... I will just drive home and go get a new one tomorrow... wrong...
1. you will not be driving home because your vehicle does not have valid regstration
2. the "registrar" will not issue you a new plate untill the equipment has been fixed...
3. Your vehicle will not get siezed, rather you will have to tow it home.
Refferences:
Inspection of vehicles
66(1) A peace officer may, for the purposes of
(a) ensuring that a vehicle or its equipment, or both,
(i) are safe to operate, and
(ii) meet the vehicle and equipment standards and requirements provided for under this Act,
or
(b) determining whether the condition of a vehicle or its equipment contributed in any manner to an accident,
do one or more of the following:
(c) direct that the vehicle or its equipment, or both, be subjected to an inspection, examination or test by the peace officer;
(d) direct that the vehicle or its equipment, or both, be subjected to an inspection, examination or test at a place and by a person specified by the peace officer;
(e) direct that the vehicle or its equipment, or both, or any specific part of the vehicle or equipment be repaired;
(f) direct that the vehicle or its equipment, or both, be removed from the highway or from operation and that it not be returned to a highway or operation until the vehicle or its equipment, or both, have been, as the case may be,
(i) rendered safe to operate,
(ii) repaired, serviced, altered or otherwise dealt with so that they meet the requirements of this Act, or
(iii) repaired in accordance with the directions of the peace officer;
(g) direct that the directions given under this section be complied with within a time period specified by the peace officer;
(h) direct that, after the directions given under this section have been complied with, the vehicle or its equipment, or both, be reinspected by a peace officer at a time and place specified by the peace officer.
(2) A direction given under this section must
(a) be in writing, and
(b) be served on the person to whom the direction is made.
(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a direction given under subsection (1)(c) may be given orally if a peace officer inspects, examines or tests the vehicle and its equipment forthwith after the direction is given.
(4) If a driver or an owner of a vehicle is given a direction under subsection (1)(f), a peace officer may seize the licence plate and certificate of registration issued in respect of that vehicle and hold the licence plate and certificate of registration until the vehicle or its equipment, or both, have been, in accordance with the direction,
(a) rendered safe to operate;
(b) repaired, serviced, altered or otherwise dealt with so that they meet the requirements of this Act;
(c) repaired in accordance with the directions of the peace officer.
(5) A person shall not do any of the following:
(a) fail to comply with the directions given by a peace officer under this section;
(b) operate a vehicle on a highway in contravention of a direction given under subsection (1)(f);
(c) put a vehicle into operation in contravention of a direction given under subsection (1)(f).
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Removal of vehicles
77(1) A peace officer may cause any vehicle to be removed and taken to and stored in a suitable place when the vehicle
(a) is abandoned under section 76;
(b) is left unattended on a highway in a manner that obstructs the normal movement of traffic;
(c) is parked on any highway in contravention of this Act or a bylaw;
(d) is parked on a highway in a manner that prevents access by fire‑fighting equipment to a fire hydrant;
(e) is not displaying a subsisting licence plate or a permit;
(f) is parked on private property without the consent of the owner of the property or on a highway in a manner that obstructs any private driveway;
(g) is left unattended on a highway and, in the opinion of a peace officer, the vehicle, its contents or any goods being carried by the vehicle are liable to be stolen or tampered with;
(h) is situated unattended at a location or in a condition so that, in the opinion of the peace officer, it constitutes a present or potential hazard to persons or property;
(i) is seized under section 172, 173 or 173.1.
(2) When the Registrar, a peace officer or another person authorized by the Registrar believes on reasonable and probable grounds that a vehicle referred to in subsection (1) is worthless, that person may, subject to the regulations, cause the vehicle to be moved to a nuisance ground, salvage yard or municipal dump for disposal or to be otherwise dealt with under the regulations.
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I think that covers it?
Seizure of licence plates
168(1) If a peace officer has reasonable and probable grounds to believe
(a) that a vehicle is displaying licence plates that
(i) were not issued for that vehicle, or
(ii) were obtained by false pretenses,
or
(b) that a vehicle is located on a highway in contravention of section 54,
the peace officer may seize and take possession of the licence plates displayed on that vehicle.
(2) When licence plates are seized under subsection (1)(a) they may be retained by the peace officer until the facts concerning the issue of those licence plates have been determined or, if an information is laid, until the final disposition of the matter.
(3) When licence plates are seized under subsection (1)(b), they may be retained by the peace officer until the owner of the vehicle is in compliance with the requirements of this Act respecting the insuring of the vehicle.
(4) If licence plates are not returned to the Registrar pursuant to a request made under this Act, a peace officer on the direction of the Registrar may seize those licence plates and return them to the Registrar. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
^---- Ok, good, but if an officer siezes your plate and you can't tow it home right away, technically could they not tow it to an impound lot because isn't illegal to have a vehicle on a public road way without proper plates(aka the cop took it)
Just a Q, not being an ass. |
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| BLOCKER |
| or you could have it towed to a lot of your choice |
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| GOT BOOST |
Ahhh..
Thanks BLOCKER.
Good info. :D I knew I could count on you. :beer:
Silverneonracer and everyone else reading this thread.
I did not mean to come across as an arrogant prick. I enjoy a good old fashioned friendly debate every now and then. :beer:
Now to further your point BLOCKER...
If one were to have their plate seized as the vehicle does not conform to standards. Does all one need to do is get an inspection, have it passed and taken to the registrar to get the plate re issued?
Or... do they have to take the inspection to the police, they sign off on something that you take to the registrar to get the plate back. :dunno: |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
quote:
Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Ahhh..
Thanks BLOCKER.
Good info. :D I knew I could count on you. :beer:
Silverneonracer and everyone else reading this thread.
I did not mean to come across as an arrogant prick. I enjoy a good old fashioned friendly debate every now and then. :beer:
Now to further your point BLOCKER...
If one were to have their plate seized as the vehicle does not conform to standards. Does all one need to do is get an inspection, have it passed and taken to the registrar to get the plate re issued?
Or... do they have to take the inspection to the police, they sign off on something that you take to the registrar to get the plate back. :dunno:
Ohhh good question.. the only time I had something like this actually happen my plate was siezed for being expired, and as such they towed my truck, no choice, they didn't even tell me until the rearend was already up on the tow truck(I was still in the truck) I re-reg'd the plate that was on the truck, found out the cop took it, i had to go back, pay again for a new plate, etc.. cost me $1200 to get my $2000 truck back. |
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| BLOCKER |
In a perfect world the PO would do the inspection... he would also notify the registrar... in a perferect world...
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Thank them for taking the time out of their busy day to see you. (no one says it) and extend your hand to shake theirs. 99% chance they will not shake it, so do not be offended. Better to offer a gesture of courtesy and be rejected. The gesture should go along way in disarming the CP and letting him or her know you are not a tool.
Why would I not be offended? Their too good to shake my hand?
I remember going to shake a cops hand once. Word for word he replies, "I don't know where that hands been".
Fuckin chump. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
Fuckin chump.
Maybe he was thinking the same thing about you.:dunno: |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
Maybe he was thinking the same thing about you.:dunno:
Yea when I say thanks for the help, goto shake his hand, well dressed for work.. He really has a reason to think that.
:rolleyes:
Refusing a hand shake is rude. I don't care who you are. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
Yea when I say thanks for the help, goto shake his hand, well dressed for work.. He really has a reason to think that.
:rolleyes:
Refusing a hand shake is rude. I don't care who you are.
Catching a guy jerking off in his car and refusing to shake his hand is rude?
Some drunk stumbling idiot who hasn't had a shower in 4 years want to shake your hand and refusing is rude?
A lot of people don't like to shake hands, I am not commenting specifically on your case because I don't know exactly what happened.... what I do know... you are easily offended...
oops! sorry... didn't mean to sound as sensitive as a 6 year old girl.. my bad |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
Catching a guy jerking off in his car and refusing to shake his hand is rude?
Some drunk stumbling idiot who hasn't had a shower in 4 years want to shake your hand and refusing is rude?
A lot of people don't like to shake hands, I am not commenting specifically on your case because I don't know exactly what happened.... what I do know... you are easily offended...
oops! sorry... didn't mean to sound as sensitive as a 6 year old girl.. my bad
Always reachin for the stars with your "what ifs".
OR there's just the off chance he was a dick. Cop or not. Or does that badge automatically make them a stand up guy in your book?
It's like me sitting here defending every Australian. |
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| AudiInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
Why would I not be offended? Their too good to shake my hand?
I remember going to shake a cops hand once. Word for word he replies, "I don't know where that hands been".
Fuckin chump.
They're |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
They're
Your a dumb shit Rob. You never learn. |
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| BLOCKER |
Not reaching for the stars, I don't know where your are gettting the "always reaching for the stars" from however....
There is always to sides to every story.... you started your post with"
'I remember going to shake a cops hand once. Word for word he replies, "I don't know where that hands been".'
And ending it with:
"Fuckin chump."
So are we to believe you just because you made a post on 780...
That "cop" is not here to defend himself... for all we know you were just another drunking idiot on whyte trying to hi-five every "cop" as you stumbled down the street during the oilers play off run two years ago.
Any body who ends their post with "Fucking chump" in my opinion is here simply to argue and stir the pot. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
Not reaching for the stars, I don't know where your are gettting the "always reaching for the stars" from however....
There is always to sides to every story.... you started your post with"
'I remember going to shake a cops hand once. Word for word he replies, "I don't know where that hands been".'
And ending it with:
"Fuckin chump."
So are we to believe you just because you made a post on 780...
That "cop" is not here to defend himself... for all we know you were just another drunking idiot on whyte trying to hi-five every "cop" as you stumbled down the street during the oilers play off run two years ago.
Any body who ends their post with "Fucking chump" in my opinion is here simply to argue and stir the pot.
That's fair enough. It's just always been a slap in the face too me.
Never been on the otherside of the fence though so I guess I can't say if I'd do the same. |
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| AudiInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
Your a dumb shit Rob. You never learn.
You're
I'm a dumb shit? You're the one who doesn't understand simple grammar. You're the one who came into the law enforcement section of our forum and started talking shit about cops. I hope you get banned, you crybaby fuck. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
That's fair enough. It's just always been a slap in the face too me.
Never been on the otherside of the fence though so I guess I can't say if I'd do the same.
No worries... its all good,
and yes there are "dick" cops |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
You're
I'm a dumb shit? You're the one who doesn't understand simple grammar. You're the one who came into the law enforcement section of our forum and started talking shit about cops. I hope you get banned, you crybaby fuck.
Down boy!!! |
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| AudiInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
Down boy!!!
Yes sir!
And check your PM's on a completely unrelated topic. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
You're
I'm a dumb shit? You're the one who doesn't understand simple grammar. You're the one who came into the law enforcement section of our forum and started talking shit about cops. I hope you get banned, you crybaby fuck.
EDIT: Pm'd instead. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| BLOCKER - Empty your PM box please. |
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| AudiInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
EDIT: Pm'd instead.
Empty your PM box too... I can't reply. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
Empty your PM box too... I can't reply.
no big loss |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
In a perfect world the PO would do the inspection... he would also notify the registrar... in a perferect world...
:dunno:
ahh... ok.
Right on. Thanks for the info. :beer: |
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| type_r_project |
| There are special conditions in which you can have tint legally on all windows. If you have a eye condition which requires reduction of light in order to drive properly, you may be issued special license requirements. It's rare though, but maybe you can give it a shot and pretend to have glaucoma :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
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Originally posted by type_r_project
There are special conditions in which you can have tint legally on all windows. If you have a eye condition which requires reduction of light in order to drive properly, you may be issued special license requirements. It's rare though, but maybe you can give it a shot and pretend to have glaucoma :lol: :lol: :lol:
it's called sun glasses.. or those laser eye surgery sunglasses which let almost no "unfiltered" light hit your eye.
You might be able to get away with a light tint if you have that condition where your skin is allergic to light, but how would you make it from the car to a building... you'd have to cover up anyhow....
"Sir why are you wearing a ski mask and sunglasses while driving? Off to rob a bank?" "No Officer you see I have this condition, I'm allergic to light, and since I can't tint my windows I have to drive like this, or at night.."
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| type_r_project |
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Originally posted by SilverNeonRacer
it's called sun glasses.. or those laser eye surgery sunglasses which let almost no "unfiltered" light hit your eye.
You might be able to get away with a light tint if you have that condition where your skin is allergic to light, but how would you make it from the car to a building... you'd have to cover up anyhow....
"Sir why are you wearing a ski mask and sunglasses while driving? Off to rob a bank?" "No Officer you see I have this condition, I'm allergic to light, and since I can't tint my windows I have to drive like this, or at night.."
heh
lol heh got me... :lol: it was worth a try.
Maybe some of those people can have the windsheild ground to their prescription lol:cool: |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
I re read the op post and did not see anything about a windshield being tinted. :dunno: I read about the windows, but nothing about a tinted windshield.
How can the officer issue a ticket for a “tinted windshield” and be taken seriously when the windshield is not tinted?
The ticket for $57.00 is something along the lines of a non oem equipment violation. The $115.00 I had received was for “Tinted front windows”
The windshield is a window, is it not? You look through it from the inside to the outside world? Who said it was NOT a windshield?
If you want to be a nazi and split every hair possible, go right ahead and I'll keep answering you. Doesn't matter to me. I'm on 2 weeks off, I got plenty of time.
The OP said he was wondering if he could get a 2nd ticket for the same violation and have it doubled. He can, as I outlined, if the window in question was the windshield. He could have gotten the $115 ticket right up front, but he didn't. Maybe uber car guys would NEVER call the windshield a "window", but not everyone is an uber car guy and I don't assume every uses the exact, specific, technical terms.
As you should know from my prior posts, I do not outline every possible situation every time I make a post. I am specifically answering specific questions. I assume the OP is smart enough to know that if his windshield is not the window in question that a fine for the windshield wouldn't apply.
Having said all that. I shouldn't have to. It should be understood that I'm not going to explain every way these situations could possibly go down nor do I give information on how things could have been initially when the question was about future occurrences. |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
The windshield is a window, is it not? You look through it from the inside to the outside world? Who said it was NOT a windshield?
If you want to be a nazi and split every hair possible, go right ahead and I'll keep answering you. Doesn't matter to me. I'm on 2 weeks off, I got plenty of time.
The OP said he was wondering if he could get a 2nd ticket for the same violation and have it doubled. He can, as I outlined, if the window in question was the windshield. He could have gotten the $115 ticket right up front, but he didn't. Maybe uber car guys would NEVER call the windshield a "window", but not everyone is an uber car guy and I don't assume every uses the exact, specific, technical terms.
As you should know from my prior posts, I do not outline every possible situation every time I make a post. I am specifically answering specific questions. I assume the OP is smart enough to know that if his windshield is not the window in question that a fine for the windshield wouldn't apply.
Having said all that. I shouldn't have to. It should be understood that I'm not going to explain every way these situations could possibly go down nor do I give information on how things could have been initially when the question was about future occurrences.
WINDSHIELD
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/WINDSHIELD
WINDSHIELD
One entry found.
windshield
Main Entry: wind·shield
Pronunciation: \ˈwin(d)-ˌshēld\
Function: noun
Date: 1902
: a transparent screen (as of glass) in front of the occupants of a vehicle
My cars from the factory came with a tinted windshield. To split hairs further, it is tinted on the top.
Door Glass. A piece of glass that is inserted into the door. You can usually roll them down, and up.
It does not take an uber car guy to figure that one out. I have never heard someone say..shit man, I broke my windshield on my door. You need to have an IQ less than 10 to pull that off.
Windshield, door glass. Pretty self explanatory to me.
Now I can see a ticket being issued for a windshield if it is actually tinted. Normally the ticket is issued for a front window/ "door glass" tint violation.
Anyways we are off topic.
Sure, I imagine you can get ticketed for the same violation again, and have it doubled. Sometimes you will deal with an officer that is less than pleasant and give you the big one right up front with out any warning, explanation, etc. So what. Fight the ticket if you get it, or pay it. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Yeah. What the fuck. Windshield = front of the car... The rest are just regular ass windows. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Edit: Double post |
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| dtjohnst |
So let me get this straight: there are technically NO windows in a vehicle, therefore if someone says window, it OBVIOUSLY can't be a windshield and would have to be "door glass".
Is a windshield an opening, made of glass, that allows occupants to see out? Yes? Then it could be called a window.
Seriously dude, dig your head out of your ass, quit being a douchebag, and accept that a windshield could be called a "window" by one who isn't using technical terms.
Window comes from the Norse vindauga, which means wind eye, or stops wind and lets you see through. Both of which my windshield does. Maybe your windshield is different. Or maybe you define window differently than the norm. Beats me. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| A windshield is different from a window... I have never heard of the windows on the sides or back of a vehicle refered to as a windshield. Side and rear windows will shatter into tiny pieces, whereas the windshield will not, lending further credibility to the fact that they are to be distinguished between. Also... The average car will spend MOST of it's life driving forwards, hence the greatest wind speed will be coming at the front of vehicle... Windshield. |
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| dtjohnst |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
A windshield is different from a window... I have never heard of the windows on the sides or back of a vehicle refered to as a windshield. Side and rear windows will shatter into tiny pieces, whereas the windshield will not, lending further credibility to the fact that they are to be distinguished between. Also... The average car will spend MOST of it's life driving forwards, hence the greatest wind speed will be coming at the front of vehicle... Windshield.
I didn`t call the windows on the side a windshield, I called the windshield a window. And again, by definition, it is a window. It blocks the wind and allows you to see out.
So again...if someone says they have tint on their windows, I don`t assume that they`re speaking technically and assume they have an untinted windshield, I answer their question and use the term windshield if I`m talking about windshield so there`s no confusion, and assume that if their windshield isn`t tinted they know enough to disregard that.
I would`ve thought the grammar police would have better reading comprehension than you`re demonstrating at the moment. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Obviously I missed something. I apologize. |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
I didn`t call the windows on the side a windshield, I called the windshield a window. And again, by definition, it is a window. It blocks the wind and allows you to see out.
So again...if someone says they have tint on their windows, I don`t assume that they`re speaking technically and assume they have an untinted windshield, I answer their question and use the term windshield if I`m talking about windshield so there`s no confusion, and assume that if their windshield isn`t tinted they know enough to disregard that.
I would`ve thought the grammar police would have better reading comprehension than you`re demonstrating at the moment.
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
Or...perhaps he was saying that while the 1st ticket was the $57 "you have tint on your window" ticket, if he stopped the OP again he'd give him the $115 "you can't see properly through your windshield" ticket, which is $1 more than double the fine.
Would the 2nd one hold up in court without being reduced? ....maybe. Depends on who presides.
Uhh…
Your response to Robs post.
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
I did. It's the only possible way I could see a ticket doubling. Do you have an alternative that doesn't involve a windshield?
No, I'm not back. I come to trade PM's with the guy who's babysitting my car since I gotta get it squared away so my company with ship it and figure while I'm here I'll come for a nice laugh.
In response to my post…
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Originally posted by dtjohnst
Naturally, but he can't go back in time and re-issue the one that another officer already gave for $115, so the only way he could double the fine on the next ticket is if he issued it, the tint was on the windshield, and he issued it for obstructed view on the windshield.
I'm not generalizing, I'm speaking to the OP's specific situation. Naturally there's any number of scenarios that could occur to any number of people under a variety of situations.
I could go on being a douche, as it is more fun to watch you back pedal. |
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| BLOCKER |
| Anyone else tired of this thread? |
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| AuZZZie |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
Anyone else tired of this thread?
I stopped reading the long winded stuff a couple of pages ago. :beer: |
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| Twigs_Dee |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
Anyone else tired of this thread?
:thumbup: endless battle now. :mad: |
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| BLOCKER |
Alright, that's three votes...
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