| Graphicdude |
On my way home form seeing Ironman and being oblivious, I was speeding, probably passed the ghost car at a set of traffic lights. Well anyways he pulls me over on Whitemud tells me I was speeding, of course me being a douche, I didn't even realize it so I was more than willing to accept my fate. But the cop decides to let me go with a warning.
For that, I say THANKS!!! Cheers! I definitely will be watching my speed. You don't get lucky twice in a row.
Also, passed a check stop on 512 heading into the Park. Thanks as well. That is the first check stop I have rolled through in the past 2 years. Glad to see one tonight. And to the guy in the Bimmer who busted a U to avoid the check stop, next time you will learn that yourself and your wife maybe shouldn't of been drinking. Dipshits! |
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| iLLlegal |
| haha very lucky. best I got was the officer lowered how fast I was going so i got a cheaper ticket. I wish I just got a warning though heh :p |
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| BigTrucker |
quote:
Originally posted by Graphicdude
And to the guy in the Bimmer who busted a U to avoid the check stop, next time you will learn that yourself and your wife maybe shouldn't of been drinking. Dipshits!
Was there not a couple cops going the other way to bust the guy? I rolled through a checkstop on Stony Plain Road around 215 street a few weeks ago and I saw a guy bust a U-turn and got pulled over a few seconds after he started going the other way. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| I've never gone through a checkstop... Not because I avoid them, but just because I've never come across one, and it kind of bums me out - I want to be checkstopped. |
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| Tech2 |
| I'd love to see more checkstops. Drinking and driving is not cool, and the minute I spend telling a cop i didn't drink keeps everyone safer on the roads. |
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| blondy |
Glad you got the break Graphicdude...lesson learned I guess...nice of the officer to do that for you
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I've never gone through a checkstop... Not because I avoid them, but just because I've never come across one, and it kind of bums me out - I want to be checkstopped.
Loool me too...the one time I did go thru one they just waved me thru
I'm always the designated driver..put the drunks in the hatch and away we go
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| Twigs_Dee |
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
I'd love to see more checkstops. Drinking and driving is not cool, and the minute I spend telling a cop i didn't drink keeps everyone safer on the roads.
Doesn't really keep everyone safer.... They are wasting their time and yours while your sober and drunk drivers are out and about cruising freely or getting waved thru a checkstop cause the law bidding citizens are the ones pulled over.
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Twigs_Dee
Doesn't really keep everyone safer.... They are wasting their time and yours while your sober and drunk drivers are out and about cruising freely or getting waved thru a checkstop cause the law bidding citizens are the ones pulled over.
:dunno:
I guess there was no one charged with impaired operation last checkstop season.... you might want to check your stats before you comment next time.... |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by Twigs_Dee
Doesn't really keep everyone safer.... They are wasting their time and yours while your sober and drunk drivers are out and about cruising freely or getting waved thru a checkstop cause the law bidding citizens are the ones pulled over.
:dunno:
What would you suggest? A "DRUNK" bumper sticker on all the impaired drivers vehicles so the cops can just pick them out in traffic without a check stop?
Seriouslly. Your comment makes ZERO sense. |
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| Tech2 |
| Maybe he was drunk when he posted. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
What would you suggest? A "DRUNK" bumper sticker on all the impaired drivers vehicles so the cops can just pick them out in traffic without a check stop?
Seriouslly. Your comment makes ZERO sense.
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
Maybe he was drunk when he posted.
Agreed
Graphicdude, Although it was not I who gave you the break, thanks for the props (speaking on behalf of the rest of the LE community) |
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| ZEguy |
quote:
Originally posted by Twigs_Dee
Doesn't really keep everyone safer.... They are wasting their time and yours while your sober and drunk drivers are out and about cruising freely or getting waved thru a checkstop cause the law bidding citizens are the ones pulled over.
:dunno:
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| joker |
Twigs this is the last time I warn you about posting your borderline retarded opinions in this forum.
Actually now that I think about it that one was full on retarded. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by Twigs_Dee
Doesn't really keep everyone safer.... They are wasting their time and yours while your sober and drunk drivers are out and about cruising freely or getting waved thru a checkstop cause the law bidding citizens are the ones pulled over.
:dunno:
I've never hit one in Edmonton...do they actually wave people through and only stop some? I've hit a few in MB and a few in ON, and they've always stopped everyone no matter how backed up that made traffic. |
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| iLLlegal |
| I know this may sound stupid but what do police actually do at check stops. I myself have never gone though one but what is the general process they do. like I still have my GDL till 09 which means 0% alcohol but lets say I have a pint watching the hockey game then drive home. do they just stop people they suspect to be a hazard? I am totally against drunk driving I'm just curious.... |
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| Geofux |
quote:
Originally posted by iLLlegal
I know this may sound stupid but what do police actually do at check stops. I myself have never gone though one but what is the general process they do. like I still have my GDL till 09 which means 0% alcohol but lets say I have a pint watching the hockey game then drive home. do they just stop people they suspect to be a hazard? I am totally against drunk driving I'm just curious....
You are on your way to answering your own question .. driving home with a GDL license after a pint of beer.
Hmm, let me think. Don't bother? If you come across a checkstop you've royally screwed yourself over IF you do get pulled over. |
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| Tech2 |
quote:
Originally posted by iLLlegal
I know this may sound stupid...
...like I still have my GDL which means 0% alcohol but lets say I have a pint then drive home. ....
Then you wouldn't be at 0% now would you. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
I've never hit one in Edmonton...do they actually wave people through and only stop some? I've hit a few in MB and a few in ON, and they've always stopped everyone no matter how backed up that made traffic.
Depending on the night, sometimes, everyone gets stopped, sometimes not.... |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by iLLlegal
I know this may sound stupid but what do police actually do at check stops. I myself have never gone though one but what is the general process they do. like I still have my GDL till 09 which means 0% alcohol but lets say I have a pint watching the hockey game then drive home. do they just stop people they suspect to be a hazard? I am totally against drunk driving I'm just curious....
Your car pulls into checkstop after being waived in, conversation follows:
Officer: Evening, it's check stop season have you had any alcohol to drink tonight?
You: I had a couple while watching the game
Officer: when did you finish your last drink?
You: about 15-20 minutes ago.
Officer: may I see your licence registration and proof of insurance please.
You: Yes sir, here you go
Officer: I have reasonable suspicion to believe you have alcohol in your body, please step out of the vehicle and accompany me back to my patrol car.
You: [gulp] Yes sir... (takes a seat in the rear of police car)
Officer: (reads the demand)
"I am a peace officer and pursuant to the provisions of the criminal Code, I deamand that you provide a sample of your breath forthwith suitable for anaysis by an approed screening device. Failure or refsal to comply will result in your being charged accordingly under the Criminal Code. Will you comply with this demand?"
You: [gulp] Yes sir
Officer: [presents the intoxilyzer 400D] This is the approved screaning device (ASD), it is an intoxilyzer 400D when you provide a suitable sample it will give one of three readings.
1. it could give a number, the number may be between 0-49, if a number is shown, that is you actual blood alcohol level. (In milligrams alcohol /millilitres blood aka: mg%)
2. it could give an "A" that means your blood alcohol level is between 50-99 mg%
3. if a "F" is shown, that means your blood alcohol level is over 100 mg% and your are considered impaired.
You: [gulp] Can I call my lawyer?
Officer: At this point No, the demand is made in accordance with the criminal code, you must provide a suitable sample forthwith, if you recieve an "F" or a "Fail" we will give you an oprotunity to contact a lawyer as you will be under arrest for impaired opperation and will have to take you to a testing location to be put on the Intoxylizer 5000C.
You: okay
Officer: [show the mouth peice] this is the mouth peice you will be blowing into, as you can see we do NOT reuse these, this one is sealed in plastic, do you want to verify?
You: no thanks
Officer: [one end of the package and puts it onto the ASD keeping the plastic on the end you will blow into untill your are ready to blow, this will ensur the officer will not touch the mouthpiece with his hands.] You will need to blow suficiant force to hear a whistle. If you do not blow hard enough you will not hear the whistle. Be prepaired to blow for approximatley 8 seconds. Do you understand?
You: [gulp] yes sir. [provides a sufficiant sample]
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Officer: [shows you the result] Its an 8, good for you, we will not be pursuing you criminally, however, you licence shows you as a GDL, that means there is a zero tolerance for alcohol.
You: [say nothing, because reality is starting to set in]
Officer: [gives you the suspension notice and tow form] can I call you a cab?
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| BigTrucker |
| If somebody blows over the legal limit for their license (GDL or not) can they call somebody to pick up their car or does it always have to be towed? |
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| BLOCKER |
That is at the discression of the officer...
It doesn't have to be towed, sometimes its parked, sometimes it is picked up by friends...
It depends on the situation... not your choice, officers choice.
They do have the lawfull authority to tow however. |
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| svt28 |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
What would you suggest? A "DRUNK" bumper sticker on all the impaired drivers vehicles so the cops can just pick them out in traffic without a check stop?
Seriouslly. Your comment makes ZERO sense.
I think what he is refering to is the fact that when me and twigs were younger and MUCH stupider, we went through many checkstops. Most of you might not think that is a big deal except for the fact we had been drinking and on more the one occasion we shouldnt have been driving at all. What happenened when we went throught the checkstop you might ask :dunno: a whole lot of fuck all. We stopped, talked to the cop, and proceeded on our way. We were VERY drunk by the way. Im not saiying at all that what we did was right or acceptable in any way, im just trying to give you guys some imput as to where twigs bases his opinion on. This was almost 10 years ago so maybe they have changed how the operate the checkstops. |
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| Twigs_Dee |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
I guess there was no one charged with impaired operation last checkstop season.... you might want to check your stats before you comment next time....
I know there stats are still fairly good. From what I have been told with my friends with RCMPs. I haven't looked at them myself yet still. Just saying Check Stops should be redesigned on how they are performed. Like example. No waving ANYBODY thru while the officers are busy with the current vehicles pulled over. Its a check stop. Everyone going thru should be checked. And checked well. Like put their heads in or near to help get a better smell of things. :dunno:
When I was younger and a complete tool, there were times I should've been caught. I know there "isn't enough" officers to pull this off cause they dont want complaintants about the hold ups. BUT ALWELL! Officers are doing their job and they make you wait 10 minutes, or 30 minutes just to check ALL the vehicles. Let it be! What the stats sky rocket if that was done. :dunno:
Just IMO..... :dunno: |
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| Graphicdude |
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
Maybe he was drunk when he posted.
I wasn't drunk. If I was, my Wife would have been driving. |
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| Twigs_Dee |
quote:
Originally posted by Tech2
Not you, Twigs.
Nope. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Twigs_Dee
I know there stats are still fairly good. From what I have been told with my friends with RCMPs. I haven't looked at them myself yet still. Just saying Check Stops should be redesigned on how they are performed. Like example. No waving ANYBODY thru while the officers are busy with the current vehicles pulled over. Its a check stop. Everyone going thru should be checked. And checked well. Like put their heads in or near to help get a better smell of things. :dunno:
When I was younger and a complete tool, there were times I should've been caught. I know there "isn't enough" officers to pull this off cause they dont want complaintants about the hold ups. BUT ALWELL! Officers are doing their job and they make you wait 10 minutes, or 30 minutes just to check ALL the vehicles. Let it be! What the stats sky rocket if that was done. :dunno:
Just IMO..... :dunno:
We all did stuff we shouldn't have and gotten away with it...
Re design the checkstop... the way it is run right now is actually pretty efficient, yes people do get waived through.. thats because they don't have enough man power to check every one quickly with minimal hinderance on the average joes life...
we have to be concious of making people wait... longer wait time = more complaints... it is a balancing act... some wait is acceptable, a lot of wait is not.
The more experiance you have dealing with drunks the easier it is to spot them... you were lucky... |
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| friedn00dles |
| pretty much as everyone says. i went through a checkstop in the middle of the thrid period of an oilers game. had to leave to the southside. on the henday heading south from sherwood park i can see that checkstops was already set up in both directions. the first turn out had 3 cruisers with no flashing lights. pretty much trying to trap anyone trying to avoid the big checkstop. once i approached the checkstop offer asked the same question as mentioned before. i can hear him trying to take a sniff inside my car to see if there was any scent of alcohol. pretty nice guy started talking about the oilers game and stuff and how he was stuck out in the cold during the game. but seriously more chekstops should be set up. cops aren't wasting there time doing this. |
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| friedn00dles |
| pretty much as everyone says. i went through a checkstop in the middle of the thrid period of an oilers game. had to leave to the southside. on the henday heading south from sherwood park i can see that checkstops was already set up in both directions. the first turn out had 3 cruisers with no flashing lights. pretty much trying to trap anyone trying to avoid the big checkstop. once i approached the checkstop offer asked the same question as mentioned before. i can hear him trying to take a sniff inside my car to see if there was any scent of alcohol. pretty nice guy started talking about the oilers game and stuff and how he was stuck out in the cold during the game. but seriously more chekstops should be set up. cops aren't wasting there time doing this. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
I've been through a number of check stops.. last one I think they were more entertained at how I managed to shove a 6'x7' L shaped desk with drawer unit and 7' hutch in the trunk of my fifth ave and if I was drinking... while I was getting my license ance registration out they went around back and looked at the desk.... when they came back, they didn't even want to see my paperwork anymore... just let me go :P
but I don't drink, plus I was only one on that stretch of road for a bit.... 97st north just passed the overpass coming from CFB Edmonton(Namao).
Most times I go through checkstop I have some sort of beverage, like ahot chocolate/pop, when they ask if I've been drinking, I hold it up and say only this... and they let me go...
checkstops can be fun sometimes to actually... if you have nothing to worry about(aka not drunk, and all your paperwork is in order) |
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| arabian_ryda |
| hey blocker i got a question for you. whats the like pulling a driver over under the influence of weed does he have to submit too a blood test right away? convicted of DUI? suspended licence? |
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| BLOCKER |
At this point there are no "Tests" that can be done to prove you have marijuhana in your system. (legally speaking).
You could still be charged for impaired opertaion, but it is baised on observations made by the officers
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smell
sings of impairment
addmitions
driving pattern
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| Tech2 |
I'm all for weed, but not at all for weed and driving.
Is it tough to get an impaired conviction for pot smoking? Does that charge get superseded by possession or something? |
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| BLOCKER |
| Last time I charged a guy for Pot while driving he was convicted |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
Interesting thread so far.
I rarely drink. It's habbit from when I was 18, and the only one in my group of friends who had a car. (And at that, it was a big 4-door sedan.) Thus whenever we went out for the evening, I was the DD. At that time, a lot of places were more than happy to keep the DD in pop/coffee all night, even if the DD was being somewhat unreasonable. ;)
Anyway, I've gone through 1 checkstop in the last 24 years, and I've been out in a lot of what I thought would be prime checkstop times. At that one instance, I was coming home from the airport from a late flight. Had I anything to drink? Not a drop. Told the officer so, and he told me to have a good night. I was kind of surprised that he took my say-so for it so readily, but I was not impaired, nothing in the car smelled of alcohol, so I can see why,
I've been asked to provide a breath sample at another time. I'll admit to being a bit distracted, I was going to work a graveyard shift downtown, driving down 124th street. I went through a yellow (It was kind of a darkish yellow, y'know?) and got pulled over. The officer thought that I might be impaired (I was fiddling with the radio earlier, and the car may have wandered a bit.)
Perfectly dry, I hadn't had a drink in literally weeks at that point. Blew a solid "F". I was astounded. Sat in the back of the cruiser for a bit, talking with the officer, trying desperately to convince him that I was sober. (Coming up on being late for work, really afraid of getting fired. Jobs weren't as easy to come by in the 80s.) The officer allowed me to try again after 10 minutes, at which time I blew a zero. I thanked the officer, and went on to work at exactly the speed limit. Made it just in time. Happy ending. The only explanation that I have been able to come up with concerning that F was some candy that I'd been sucking on until a few moments before. Maybe it had something that the detector reacted to? Dunno. :dunno:
Anyway, I would have less objection to a checkstop every couple of weeks than I do to the road closures around my office this afternoon. |
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| Casanova |
Despite the social stigma and outrage attached to DUI's, when I used to frequent the bar scene, its remarkable to see how many ppl pounding drinks in the bar and then hop in the drivers seat at the end of the night. Scary stuff.
Is there any progress on sensors built into cars that would stop anyone over the legal limit to start the car? |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by Casanova
Despite the social stigma and outrage attached to DUI's, when I used to frequent the bar scene, its remarkable to see how many ppl pounding drinks in the bar and then hop in the drivers seat at the end of the night. Scary stuff.
Is there any progress on sensors built into cars that would stop anyone over the legal limit to start the car?
They already have it. Good luck putting that into every consumers car. Having to blow everytime you start your car. Never going to happen. |
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| Dan_Gyoba |
The question reminds me of that ad on the radio, with all these people talking about how stupid drinking and driving is. Then the tag line "If nobody's doing it, then why..."
I wonder how many people just aren't ADMITTING to it.
I know that one of th ose "blow before you start" devices can be ordered installed in your car, but I also know how easily something like that could be bypassed, even if it were installed on my car. -- Not that it would be.
I will admit that I sometimes will have one drink before driving home, provided that it's with a meal, and that I won't have anyone else in the car with me. More than one, I won't.
Interesting though that at some events, I am fighting a lot of peer pressure, even when people KNOW that I'm driving home. "Oh come on, one more won't be a problem!" This can even come from people who at other times will insist that they'd never encourage impaired driving.
To the point though. Would I agree to have such a device installed in my car? Not a chance. For one, it'd have to be bypassed for my remote start to function (And I want that to function, thank you very much! I don't like driving a cold car in the wintertime.) so I'm not sure how much good it would do, unless it prevented the key from being turned in the ignition instead of an electrical system disable. I know that driving is a privilege, not a right, but I think that I deserve the right to be presumed innocent of impaired driving. If I were to be convicted of impaired driving, I recognise that as a right that I may have to give up, and at that time, sure. I'd have the device installed to regain the privilege of driving, given that choice. |
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| cupcake |
Hopefully, the following questions haven't been answered yet. If they have been, sorry.
So how do officers decide who to pull over at check stops? I would expect young people in a group and older single males would be a good "target" group. Or is it just based on timing?
I have a GDL and a couple weeks ago, I had 3 drinks (girly cocktails at the rate of about one an hour) before 11. I drove home at around 3:30. I assumed 4.5 hours would be enough time for 3 drinks to metabolize. So let's say I did get check stopped, and I blew a low number. Would my license be suspended on the spot even with the circumstances? If I told the circumstances of what I just detailed, would the officer think I'm lying/minimizing?
And what if I had one of those rum filled chocolates right before I left work and got check stopped 5 minutes after? Would that count? |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by cupcake
Hopefully, the following questions haven't been answered yet. If they have been, sorry.
So how do officers decide who to pull over at check stops? I would expect young people in a group and older single males would be a good "target" group. Or is it just based on timing?
I have a GDL and a couple weeks ago, I had 3 drinks (girly cocktails at the rate of about one an hour) before 11. I drove home at around 3:30. I assumed 4.5 hours would be enough time for 3 drinks to metabolize. So let's say I did get check stopped, and I blew a low number. Would my license be suspended on the spot even with the circumstances? If I told the circumstances of what I just detailed, would the officer think I'm lying/minimizing?
And what if I had one of those rum filled chocolates right before I left work and got check stopped 5 minutes after? Would that count?
In my experiance Checkstops are random... I pull over one car, deal with it, send it on its way... pull over the next one in line....
Likely those 3 drinks would have been proccessed by your body (over 4.5 hrs)... however... if you did blow even a low number, you would likely have been suspended on the spot, GDL has a ZERO tolerance...
If you had finished your drink just 5 minutes before, you should be detained for 10 minutes... there should be 15 minutes minimum between time of last drink to time of breathalyzer...
Those rum fill chocolates would not give much if any of reading... if you did eat one, you would likely wait for the 15 before you blow. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
I personally am disappointed with the amount of Check Stops I've went through.
There should be no such things as "Check Stop Season". It should be year round. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
I personally am disappointed with the amount of Check Stops I've went through.
There should be no such things as "Check Stop Season". It should be year round.
I agree, they should be year round... it all comes down to funding...
We have been doing the odd checkstop outside of checkstop season recently... |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
it all comes down to funding...
Yeah, that's the sad part. So much money put into areas that it shouldn't be, instead of where it should be. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by EDISKRAD EHT
Yeah, that's the sad part. So much money put into areas that it shouldn't be, instead of where it should be.
agreed |
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| RangerMan |
I agree..there should be more checkstops, I've only been through one checkstop during 4 years I've lived here - 111thave CDN brewhouse
A cheque stop on whyte ave would be nice..maybe thats asking much though, high volume area. |
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