| Casanova |
What is your opinion of our law enforcement? I ask for a couple of reasons.
1) The EPS has had some challenges in the past with Chief Lindsay, Police Commission, Overtime sting etc - among other things. Has your opinion or trust of the EPS crediblity suffered in light of these minor "scandals"?
2) The RCMP seems to have its fair share of credibility issues starting at their top leadership, questionable (alleged) entrapment investigations ie. Mayorthorpe's Dennis Cheeseman.
3) Anytime I have spoken to an EPS member I have been treated very poorly. For example, I went into the downtown station for a check or something years ago and brought my son with me who was probably 2 or 3. My son was scared shitless of police because his mom used to tell him they would come take him if he didnt listen to her (idiot). Anyway I hadn't been to the station before and approached the wrong side of the counter for background check and the member behind the desk mumbled at me then eventually raised his voice to me. I then explained to him quietly that my son was terrified of police and if he could say hi to him and be nice etc. He pulled out a coloring book and tossed it on the counter and walked away. I have had many bad experiences but this was the most pointed.
My personal opinion is that I always question a police officers motivation, if I get pulled over and have done nothing wrong, I am nervous as shit, almost as if they are unpredictable, when I see lights go on whether in front of me or behind, I immediately get nervous. If the police were to question me about something I think I would immediately opt to have a lawyer present, I wouldn't care what its about. My feeling is that they could talk you into a corner and twist your words and pin something on you.
Am I just paranoid? Do I watch too much TV? What are your thoughts on our law enforcement? I think (and hope) I am the exception.
No offense Blocker or Albertarc! |
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| AudiInProgress |
I also get nervous when I see lights and hear sirens, but I think that it's mainly because the majority of times I have been pulled over, I *WAS* doing something wrong... And I can admit that. And I have always paid my fines without contest. I've done something illegal, I got busted, I man up.
I have not come across many asshole cops, in fact, I don't really think I've come across any... Because I can't think of one even now that I try.
I personally find that Female cops tend to be worse than male cops, and perhaps it's because they're still fighting for equality in some way or another? Perhaps not from a career standpoint, but from a respect standpoint, both by officers and the public alike.
I have my suspicions that female officers put up with a lot of bullshit, especially when they pull over rig pigs and such, so they're probably a lot more stern...
Also, I've heard officers belittle female members of the force, and I half-agree with some of the criticism... A 5-foot-tall 100lb girl is *NOT* going to be able to handle herself as well as a 7-foot-tall 300lb man if the situation turned violent.
Sure she has a gun, and sense of authority, and realistically... That SHOULD be all it takes to control a situation. But people are fucked. People make bad decisions, and there are just some plain sick and twisted people out there.
There is protocol to follow, etc etc etc.
I believe in equality in the workforce, and policing is no different, and everything would have to be taken on a case-by-case basis. I'm just speaking in general. If the woman in question was some 1700th degree black belt, and the dude was just a tubby fucker, she'd probably handle herself just fine.
But I digress...
Aside from my observation that female officers tend to be more strict... I Also find that many of the newer, younger officers, tend to "have something to prove" or... I don't know. They just seem a lot less likely to give warnings, or let the little shit slide, opposed to a seasoned officer who would probably approach the situation differently.
All-in-all... I've never felt unfairly targetted, and no officer of the law has ever treated me with disrespect at a stop.
As far as the the "scandals" and stuff go, I've never heard anything about them, I don't read the paper - or watch the news... So I don't have an opinion on that matter. |
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| Grace Too |
I don't know about you; but I am a little pissed that they preach about keep racing off of the streets. Which is fine, but then the EPS takes all of our auto-cross dates at the base. It just seems stupid to me.
In terms of talking to officers, I have had no real issues, other than one constable that couldn't tell the difference between a Chevy Astro van and a Nissan 300zx. I should give him some credit they were both white.
I also do not want to offend the officers on the forum, I am just beyond frustrated with the hypocrisy that's all.
Cheers,
Grace Too |
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| euro777 |
i have had mixed experiences with the EPS, i have not needed help or been in trouble so mainly just traffic violations and random pull overs so my bias is more toward the negative side since they came to me rather than me coming to them.
i have also had cars stolen/broken into and they dont give two shits, but honestly i dont think it should rank that high on their priority list. But...this then makes me think of the tint hassles, and loud stereo hassles, exhaust hassles, driving an rx-7 while young hassles, driving a 350z while wishing i was still young hassles.....some of these hassles should not have ranked in any priority but the fine officers made it clear that i was in the wrong and i am going to pay and therefore had made it their immediate priority.
so this then lends itself to Casanova's argument of motivation, what motivates them to pull out the ticket book and write away, or simply let you off with a warning.
all in all i think it comes down to power, those with it tend to use it...
sometimes for good (eg.countless times 780 members chime in about a cool cop who let them off with a warning and a cool car comment- but a stern warning non the less)
sometimes to make an example (eg. countless times 780 members chime in about handful of tickets they just got)
either way i feel safe, i keep myself out of trouble and i try to not give any reasons to test the power and authority of the EPS since there is actual crime going on that our resources should be trying to take care of instead of writing tickets for tint and exhaust. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by Casanova
What is your opinion of our law enforcement? I ask for a couple of reasons.
1) The EPS has had some challenges in the past with Chief Lindsay, Police Commission, Overtime sting etc - among other things. Has your opinion or trust of the EPS crediblity suffered in light of these minor "scandals"?
2) The RCMP seems to have its fair share of credibility issues starting at their top leadership, questionable (alleged) entrapment investigations ie. Mayorthorpe's Dennis Cheeseman.
3) Anytime I have spoken to an EPS member I have been treated very poorly. For example, I went into the downtown station for a check or something years ago and brought my son with me who was probably 2 or 3. My son was scared shitless of police because his mom used to tell him they would come take him if he didnt listen to her (idiot). Anyway I hadn't been to the station before and approached the wrong side of the counter for background check and the member behind the desk mumbled at me then eventually raised his voice to me. I then explained to him quietly that my son was terrified of police and if he could say hi to him and be nice etc. He pulled out a coloring book and tossed it on the counter and walked away. I have had many bad experiences but this was the most pointed.
My personal opinion is that I always question a police officers motivation, if I get pulled over and have done nothing wrong, I am nervous as shit, almost as if they are unpredictable, when I see lights go on whether in front of me or behind, I immediately get nervous. If the police were to question me about something I think I would immediately opt to have a lawyer present, I wouldn't care what its about. My feeling is that they could talk you into a corner and twist your words and pin something on you.
Am I just paranoid? Do I watch too much TV? What are your thoughts on our law enforcement? I think (and hope) I am the exception.
No offense Blocker or Albertarc!
1) There is no doubt they have had some credibility issues at the top levels in the past. It appears they have made leaps and strides to make things better. Unfortunately being an EPS member is a thankless job. (No.. I am not one). You deal with the scum society has to offer on a daily basis, and seldom thanked or appreciated for what you do. The police have seen more that you and I could ever possibly imagine. I believe their training and past experience help to form the opinions and how they act. People and the Media are cop hating hungry, and never show the full picture, or report the events just prior to, during, and after the “incident” You will almost never see a story of how “Officer” blah did this to help out here, if you did.. it will be in the back pages somewhere.
2) As for the RCMP, yes they are police, but a different division and legislation
3) 99.9% of my dealings with the RCMP, EPS have been very pleasant. If they pull you over, they usually have a good reason to. Yes.. the odd time you will get one that is less than pleasant to deal with, but tell me what occupation you will not run into someone who is not pleasant to deal with?
When ever I see lights and sirens I do not panic. I watch to see if they are pulling me over, but I do not freak out. I do not fear the police as I know the avenues and appropriate actions to be taken in the event of mistreatment.
Overall, I think they are doing a great job and keep up the good work.
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| Graphicdude |
I have only had one major dealing with the Police in the past and at that time they were idiots. I had a gun pulled on me in a Grocery Store Parking lot in broad daylight.
Some dickhead asked me for some weed, I said I had none and he wouldn't let it go. He kept hounding me and I kept telling him I wasn't a dealer and I had none. He was in his car at the time, he pulls a gun from under his seat and says, "get in the car" Of course I booked it.
Being only 19 I was freaked out so I called the cops. Gave them a perfect description of the car, driver and 5 of six digits of the plate. Could they find this guy? No. Then they have the nerve to ask me, "was it a real gun?" How in the fuck would I know. I didn't stick around to find out.
THinking about after the fact, I shouldn't of called the cops. The bullshit of court, and that retard knowing who i was, where I lived, etc. would have made things worse for me. So in a way I am glad the cops were idiots at the time.
But what gets me is the hypocrisy. I can't speed but they can? They can pull off traffic violations but I can't? I say practice what you preach. Especially when you can tell they are not heading to an emergency. But what really gets me is seeing cops put on there lights to get in front of traffic, turn them off and continue their stroll down the street.
There was this one time I was on Yellowhead and this officer has his lights on, there were three lanes, so I pull off tot he center lane to let him pass, he follows behind me, so I pull off to the far right lane, he blows by me, swerves in front of me, gives me the finger and then turns his lights off. Then he continues speeding down yellowhead. I wasn't quick enough to get the car number because I was dumstruck. I couldn't believe what happened. It was extremely odd.
So to answer your question, I have no problems with them, there will always be corruption and dickheads on the force. As long as you keep your nose clean and treat them with respect when you do deal with them, you shouldn't have any problems. |
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| Invalid Zero |
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Overall, I think they are doing a great job and keep up the good work.
Agreed. I don't fear the police. I've got a few friends who are RCMP and city cops, and I think they do a great job. I've run into a jackass or two though.
I always laugh when I hear stories of people getting beat down for "no reason". Yeah right. If you're being a little fucko and giving attitude, you deserve what you get. |
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| Invalid Zero |
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Originally posted by Graphicdude
But what gets me is the hypocrisy. I can't speed but they can?
Yep, so quit crying about it. You have no idea where he was headed. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by Casanova
What is your opinion of our law enforcement? I ask for a couple of reasons.
1) The EPS has had some challenges in the past with Chief Lindsay, Police Commission, Overtime sting etc - among other things. Has your opinion or trust of the EPS crediblity suffered in light of these minor "scandals"?
2) The RCMP seems to have its fair share of credibility issues starting at their top leadership, questionable (alleged) entrapment investigations ie. Mayorthorpe's Dennis Cheeseman.
3) Anytime I have spoken to an EPS member I have been treated very poorly. For example, I went into the downtown station for a check or something years ago and brought my son with me who was probably 2 or 3. My son was scared shitless of police because his mom used to tell him they would come take him if he didnt listen to her (idiot). Anyway I hadn't been to the station before and approached the wrong side of the counter for background check and the member behind the desk mumbled at me then eventually raised his voice to me. I then explained to him quietly that my son was terrified of police and if he could say hi to him and be nice etc. He pulled out a coloring book and tossed it on the counter and walked away. I have had many bad experiences but this was the most pointed.
My personal opinion is that I always question a police officers motivation, if I get pulled over and have done nothing wrong, I am nervous as shit, almost as if they are unpredictable, when I see lights go on whether in front of me or behind, I immediately get nervous. If the police were to question me about something I think I would immediately opt to have a lawyer present, I wouldn't care what its about. My feeling is that they could talk you into a corner and twist your words and pin something on you.
Am I just paranoid? Do I watch too much TV? What are your thoughts on our law enforcement? I think (and hope) I am the exception.
No offense Blocker or Albertarc!
All police forces, without exception (RCMP, EPS, CPS, WPS, OPP, SQ, TMP, PRP, MP, etc etc) have issues with credibility. There are 2 reasons:
1) The press
2) Bad apples
Crooked cops sell papers. If the cop isn't crooked, just stick question marks at the end of your sentences to imply without being legally guilty of that implication. "Was the use of a taser really needed in this case?" as opposed to "He didn't need to use a taser". Of course this is all done under the guise of "the public had a right to know."
On the flip side....some cops really are bad apples, do abuse people, and in those cases, the public really does have a right to know. I think the problem stems from the fact that people are selfish, cops inconvenience them and in their selfishness they think there's more important "criminals" to go after, and they refuse to believe there might be 2 sides to every story.
As long as you know your rights, you're fine. Be polite no matter how rude the officer is. Don't be afraid to say no, even if he asks to search and hurls threats at you if you say no (you have the right to say no, even when you have nothing to hide...I always make them work for it and I used to do that job) and always be respectful. You never know what they know, or what they think they know, or what they saw or think they saw. Assume they know what they're doing even if you have your doubts. Don't physically prevent them from doing something. Don't sink to the level of insults or rudeness.
At the end of the day, if you did something wrong and he found out through an unlawful search (as one example), you fighting back or trying to physically prevent him from searching gives his search more credibility than had you just stood back and said "I do not consent to this search". In other cases, a wrongful arrest is pretty rare (especially from a routine traffic stop), and if you were polite and didn't fight back the money you'll win in the lawsuit will more than make up for your time.
If you know your rights and exercise them while remaining polite and respectful, there's nothing an officer can do to you that you aren't protected from. |
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| dtjohnst |
quote:
Originally posted by Graphicdude
Then they have the nerve to ask me, "was it a real gun?" How in the fuck would I know. I didn't stick around to find out.
It's a fair question though. They are trying to get facts. Was it a water gun, a toy gun, etc? You'd be surprised how many times asking a question that seems obvious jogs a persons memory into some detail they wouldn't have remembered otherwise.
Also, you can't say you know they aren't going to an emergency. You also can't say you know the emergency they were going to got cancelled. If they couldn't speed, or violate traffic laws, how would they chase bad guys? You're upset they didn't catch the guy, you're glad they didn't catch the guy, you don't think they should be allowed to violate traffic laws to catch the bad guy.
You sound like you don't know what to think, except that you don't like cops and can find any excuse to not like them. I've had many jobs that involved driving for a living. And in 12 years of driving I can count on 1 hand the number of officers I've seen put on lights and go through red lights only to turn them off again. I don't know what some of you people do that it's a regular occurance. I imagine half of it is you saw it once or twice, and your friends saw it once or twice, and they all have friends have seen it once or twice, and so people make it sound like it's a non-stop regular occurance.
If you get out of your way and think honestly to yourself, I bet you'll realize you don't actually have the information to back up how common you made it seem. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by Grace Too
I don't know about you; but I am a little pissed that they preach about keep racing off of the streets. Which is fine, but then the EPS takes all of our auto-cross dates at the base. It just seems stupid to me.
Oh you're not the only one pissed about that. This unfortunate situation is affecting a lot of car clubs this spring, not just ours. There are a couple communication avenues with the EPS being considered to hopefully open up a productive dialogue on this issue. |
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| quick_gold |
quote:
Originally posted by Graphicdude
There was this one time I was on Yellowhead and this officer has his lights on, there were three lanes, so I pull off tot he center lane to let him pass, he follows behind me, so I pull off to the far right lane, he blows by me, swerves in front of me, gives me the finger and then turns his lights off. Then he continues speeding down yellowhead. I wasn't quick enough to get the car number because I was dumstruck. I couldn't believe what happened. It was extremely odd.
He shouldnt have given you the finger, but as far as i remember if you are on a oneway street with more than 2 lanes you are supposed to pull over to the nearest curb lane and vacate the middle lane. So you should have either pulled over to the left shoulder, or pulled over all the way to the right hand lane/shoulder. |
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| Graphicdude |
quote:
Originally posted by dtjohnst
....Also, you can't say you know they aren't going to an emergency. You also can't say you know the emergency they were going to got cancelled. If they couldn't speed, or violate traffic laws, how would they chase bad guys? You're upset they didn't catch the guy, you're glad they didn't catch the guy, you don't think they should be allowed to violate traffic laws to catch the bad guy....
You didn't understand what I wrote. At the time I wanted tehm to catch the guy, but like i wrote..."THinking about after the fact, I shouldn't of called the cops. The bullshit of court, and that retard knowing who i was, where I lived, etc. would have made things worse for me. So in a way I am glad the cops were idiots at the time."
And you didn't understand what I said about speeding. I have followed cops who were speeding on Whitemud & other streets, no lights, no urgency, just driving. On one occasion I saw the car pull into a restaurant. But whatever, I have an opinion you have yours, no sense in battling about it because its going nowhere. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Grace Too
I don't know about you; but I am a little pissed that they preach about keep racing off of the streets. Which is fine, but then the EPS takes all of our auto-cross dates at the base. It just seems stupid to me.
They are taking all of your auto cross dates at the base?
I am not familary with this subject, however, I do know that we do our driver training out at the base.
If your auto cross dates are taken, thats because the base has chosen to alocate that land to the EPS for training.
Unfortunately when we are hiring over 170 officers every year for the next umteen years, we need to be able to train them.
I would rather have proffessionally trained drivers operating our police cars rather then any joe smoo off the street with and AMA drivers course.
It doesn't sound hipocritical to me, it sounds as if there is greater importance placed on training officers then you playing on the weekend. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| The next person that says "shouldn't of" is getting a size 16 boot in the teeth. |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
The next person that says "shouldn't of" is getting a size 16 boot in the teeth.
You shouldn't of said that. Their will be peoaple upsat with U. |
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| AudiInProgress |
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
You shouldn't of said that. Their will be peoaple upsat with U.
I made you my bitch once, I can most certainly do it again, see you at WEM buddy.
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I made you my bitch once, I can most certainly do it again, see you at WEM buddy.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Poor muffin,
I did not want to get my clothes dirty. Next time I will take you to the smack down. :lol: |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Yeah, yeah, Mr. Fancy clothes... Whatever you say. :asshole: |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
They are taking all of your auto cross dates at the base?
Basically yes. Currently with the exception of the Polar PCA and RX-7 club, who were each able to grab a couple dates (one per month), EPS grabbed ALL remaining weekend dates at Namao for May, June and July. Everyone else is SOL. So as of right now the soonest ours and other clubs could possibly get on there is August. (unless EPS decides to take those too)
I know they use the facility for training. However it raises questions... like why WEEKENDS? Is there some reason they couldn't schedule work-related training on weekdays, when it doesn't conflict with local motorsports activities. Obviously there could be military reasons why this has happened as well, but it's certainly a question worth raising. |
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| Rich_A |
| Since I moved from Cold Lake 3 years ago.. I haven't met a cop that wasn't crooked / tried to be extremely rude / threatening. |
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| Arikara1985 |
Only had one bad experience with cops before. I was 18 and going to work. I started work at 5:00AM, so I met my ride at the plaza across the street from my house at 4:30AM every morning. Well one morning as I just got across the street all I saw was an unmarked car pull up behind me with the driver yelling at me to put my hands on the hood. I complied and was wondering "wtf is going on". They searched me and started to accuse me of robbing a 7/11 down the street. They said they had a description of a male with a red shirt and baggy jeans (I had a red shirt on but I was wearing shorts). He then searches my bag which had 2 cans of pop and 2 bottles of water in it and he said "Where'd you steal this from?" I replied "From my fridge...". He then threatened to punch me in the mouth if I didn't start to tell him the truth. My ride finally showed up and they let me go.
Other then that, I don't think I have ever had a bad encounter with a cop. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Basically yes. Currently with the exception of the Polar PCA and RX-7 club, who were each able to grab a couple dates (one per month), EPS grabbed ALL remaining weekend dates at Namao for May, June and July. Everyone else is SOL. So as of right now the soonest ours and other clubs could possibly get on there is August. (unless EPS decides to take those too)
I know they use the facility for training. However it raises questions... like why WEEKENDS? Is there some reason they couldn't schedule work-related training on weekdays, when it doesn't conflict with local motorsports activities. Obviously there could be military reasons why this has happened as well, but it's certainly a question worth raising.
I don't know why the weekends were taken, as I am not in training section.
My point was, it is not being hipocritical to use the facility, unfortunately land is at a premium, EPS got it for training, not to take it away from the weekend racer crowd...
If we could afford to build our own track, we would... untill the city wins the lottery that is not going to happen. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Rich_A
Since I moved from Cold Lake 3 years ago.. I haven't met a cop that wasn't crooked / tried to be extremely rude / threatening.
Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. |
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| euro777 |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.
and some are shittier than others :lol:
my new sig |
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| Supra_devil |
my worst run in with EPS was over a minor speeding ticket and the guy was a complete DICK, i was 17 i think at the time and he was trying to push me around, making assumptions and just generally being a complete asshole. my mom and neighbours both were there and were not impressed with him. i talked to some people who knew of him and his family and said they are all assholes who think their king shit.
I had a more serious incident with the EPS when i was 18 and they were really nice and easy going, made sure i understood what was going on, etc. I told them so and told them about the pull over and they knew the guy and said he is still an asshole, lol.
most of the rest of my experiances i didn't personally deal with the cops much, check stops, couple of times at meets when cops showed up, etc. |
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| Grace Too |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
My point was, it is not being hipocritical to use the facility, unfortunately land is at a premium, EPS got it for training, not to take it away from the weekend racer crowd...
If we could afford to build our own track, we would... untill the city wins the lottery that is not going to happen.
I will make the hypcrisy clearer for you. You (the EPS) scream at us not to race on the streets right. Well since not all of us are striaght line racing douche bags. As in we like to turn left and right.
Then in one fell swoop the EPS takes all the track time, so it's like this: Don't race on the steets, oh yah don't race on the track either. For what training; give me a break if what you do is training than you guys need some serious help. Most cops can't drive their way out of an asshole. You guys have a 2 ton battering ram and use it as such. The only difference between you (the EPS) and the drunk guy is you guys have a badge.
Also if the city one the lottery lol they would build another overpass, and not a race track for the EPS. C'mon man lets use some logic here.
I know BLOCKER that you are not responsible for what's happening, heck I even think that you are a good guy. I just want my argument, and or opinion clear.
Cheers,
Grace Too |
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| Tech2 |
quote:
Originally posted by BLOCKER
I would rather have proffessionally trained drivers operating our police cars rather then any joe smoo off the street with and AMA drivers course.
I'll agree with this one since I was just about run down by a crook in a high speed chase. Both cop cars were under tight control during the fancy-pants driving that saw the bad guy (driving like that does indeed make him the bad guy) take air off the median he oversteered into and miss some old lady by a couple feet.
Besides that, every single run in with police or RCMP I've had has been professional and positive, from traffic stops to checkstops to someone in my family getting arrested to dealing with the neighborhood drug house to traffic accidents to showing foreign friends around the detachment. I'd say that's weird, not even a single time in my own personal dealings have I even got a bad impression. Sure I have some friends with horror stories (both sides of the law), but seemed to me in the bad situations it was the legal system that was the issue and not the cops. |
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| Driven |
| Case by case basis.. i've seen the eps handle themselves well... and then i've seen them total irrational and a serious waste of resources. |
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| shortie |
I actually have a lot of respect for the cops in town here. seriously, they put up with a LOT of shit.
Of COURSE the media is going to climb ontop of stories about crooked cops and bad apples - that is how media works - fear mongering and catering to everyone's consipracy theories.
having worked at the royal alex myself, I came to realize the crap side of law enforcement - dealing with the biggest dirtbags EVER you could imagine. the respect they all get is next to zero, and I fully understand their frustrations at times.
and yah, as a woman, sometimes you need to be a bitch and stern to get people to take you seriously, because there is a great deal of the population who will not in an authoritative position... |
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| Invalid Zero |
quote:
Originally posted by Grace Too
I will make the hypcrisy clearer for you. You (the EPS) scream at us not to race on the streets right. Well since not all of us are striaght line racing douche bags. As in we like to turn left and right.
Then in one fell swoop the EPS takes all the track time, so it's like this: Don't race on the steets, oh yah don't race on the track either. For what training; give me a break if what you do is training than you guys need some serious help. Most cops can't drive their way out of an asshole. You guys have a 2 ton battering ram and use it as such. The only difference between you (the EPS) and the drunk guy is you guys have a badge.
Also if the city one the lottery lol they would build another overpass, and not a race track for the EPS. C'mon man lets use some logic here.
Take your own advice. What makes you think you have any right to dodge cones on the weekends? You are at the mercy of whoever owns the lot/track whatever. Go give them shit for booking for EPS training.
I think your post is about one of the dumbest I've ever read on 780. |
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| arabian_ryda |
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Originally posted by Driven
Case by case basis.. i've seen the eps handle themselves well... and then i've seen them total irrational and a serious waste of resources.
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| XtraX |
quote:
Originally posted by Grace Too
I will make the hypcrisy clearer for you. You (the EPS) scream at us not to race on the streets right. Well since not all of us are striaght line racing douche bags. As in we like to turn left and right.
Then in one fell swoop the EPS takes all the track time, so it's like this: Don't race on the steets, oh yah don't race on the track either. For what training; give me a break if what you do is training than you guys need some serious help. Most cops can't drive their way out of an asshole. You guys have a 2 ton battering ram and use it as such. The only difference between you (the EPS) and the drunk guy is you guys have a badge.
Also if the city one the lottery lol they would build another overpass, and not a race track for the EPS. C'mon man lets use some logic here.
I know BLOCKER that you are not responsible for what's happening, heck I even think that you are a good guy. I just want my argument, and or opinion clear.
Cheers,
Grace Too
As a "straight line racing douche bag" I take offence to your comment as a whole.
I have my own perspective on law enforcement today but I keep that under wraps until I my head cools down. |
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Originally posted by Grace Too
I will make the hypcrisy clearer for you. You (the EPS) scream at us not to race on the streets right. Well since not all of us are striaght line racing douche bags. As in we like to turn left and right.
DON'T RACE ON THE STREETS! IT'S DANGEROUS AND ILLEAGLE!...
There are still events during the year for both straight line and turning douche bags to race... sorry if you are upset...
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[i]Then in one fell swoop the EPS takes all the track time, so it's like this: Don't race on the steets, oh yah don't race on the track either. [/B]
Again, they asked for it, the owner gave it to them.. he could have said NO.
No one is telling you not to race on a track... It is not the EPS's responsibilty to provide you with a place to play...
When your arrested for dangerous driving, we have a responsiblity to ensure you are informed of your rights and offer you access to a phone... not a track
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[i]For what training; give me a break if what you do is training than you guys need some serious help. Most cops can't drive their way out of an asshole. You guys have a 2 ton battering ram and use it as such. The only difference between you (the EPS) and the drunk guy is you guys have a badge.[/B]
And you could drive your way out of an asshole? You must have a lot of experiance being in one...
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[i]Also if the city one the lottery lol they would build another overpass, and not a race track for the EPS. C'mon man lets use some logic here.[/B]
It was smart remark, not a serious one... take a breath, cool down... No logic was intended
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[i]I know BLOCKER that you are not responsible for what's happening, heck I even think that you are a good guy. I just want my argument, and or opinion clear.
Cheers,
Grace Too [/B]
You probably don't think that anymore... sorry but i couldn't let some of those comments slide.
Cheers,
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| arabian_ryda |
holy shit blocker layed some smack down on that one haha.
if its one thing i notice about cops is they know all the good smartass remarks. makes me laugh i love it. :thumbup: |
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Here comes blocker from the top ropes!
Then finishing it off.
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