| euro777 |
you all know what im talking about
crappy ratchets that slip (internal gears fucked), cheap driver bits that work once, made in china shit!!!
i am by no means a mechanic but i do all the maintenance on my car, gf's car and alot of friends who dont know jack about cars- i would love some feedback for what brand of tool i should go get to replace all the half sets, broken, golf prize, magyver shit i have been trying to use lately.
my old man swears by craftsman, i just wanted to throw this out there since i know alot of 780er's spend a fair amount of time under the hood and have probably cursed out many tools over the years.
what has worked the best?
thanks everybody, cheers for friday |
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| Rabb |
MAC
love my tools :D |
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| kevjs |
| I use Mastercraft and Mastercraft Maximum, both have held up well. |
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| iLLlegal |
haha slipping ratchets have been the source of all my injuries thus far. it sucks cuz its a regular size one (the only size that will fit in my engine bay!) went out and bought one of those big breaker bar ones. oh man i love it. but still can't use it all the time. :mad:
and umm I dunno what kind to get. I need new ones too lol |
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| oldraven |
| Snap-on. The tools are second to none, and the service is amazing. The reps would eat their own children if it meant you'd buy another ratchet. |
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| newaccorddriver |
| for occasional DIY stuff, id go with mastercraft. ive broken so many sockets and rachets that i just go up to customer service, and they give me a new one no questioned asked |
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| JustinL |
| I've had similar experience with craftsman from sears. They hold up pretty good and the times I've broken things, it's a no questions asked forever guarantee. |
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| Soulfly |
Mastercraft MAXIMUM Only... Not Just 'Mastercraft'.
And Craftsman.
Those are the only good tools for cheap. |
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| Godzilla |
| i have a bit of everything, while i liek MAC and Snap-On for some of the more important expensive tools. Mastercraft makes some damn good wrenches and socket sets. |
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| Blackout-spec |
mastercraft has to be the shittiest tools out there. they are all so soft.
craftsman are decent, never had one break on me.
snap on is $$$ |
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| euro777 |
quote:
Originally posted by Blackout-spec
mastercraft has to be the shittiest tools out there. they are all so soft.
craftsman are decent, never had one break on me.
snap on is $$$
this is sounding like the consensus, i think i will go with craftsman or the mastercraft MAXIMUM since they look a little more robust.
i think i will wait until i get a nice new garage before i go all the way and get something high dollar like Snap On or MAC
thanks for the opinions, time to get dirty- change oil, accessory belts, add oil catch can Home Depot style (thanks Auzzzie and my350z.com), detail engine bay, and hard wire the V1.
have a good weekend everybody!!! |
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| Z3r03rr0r |
if you aren't in a rush you can usually swing some amazing deals at crappy tire for the mastercraft maximum stuff
they will have a 300 piece socket set on for half price almsot once a month |
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| Soulfly |
quote:
Originally posted by Z3r03rr0r
if you aren't in a rush you can usually swing some amazing deals at crappy tire for the mastercraft maximum stuff
they will have a 300 piece socket set on for half price almsot once a month
Yeah.. Seriously.. Don't even bother with the Normal 'Mastercraft' stuff.. Only Buy the MAXIMUM.. Otherwise.. it's garbage.. |
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| Blackout-spec |
i know i picked up a 200piece or something socket set at sears for like 70$ a few yrs back. every piece still looks and works like new.
mastercraft on the other hand, i just needed 1 socket so i just picked it up at crappy tire, i broke 3 in a row before i told them to shove it up their ass and give me my money back.
craftsman i figure is the best for the price range and how much you would use them. |
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| euro777 |
| yeah CT always has those blowout 50-70% deals, i may wait and just use what i have for now, since i only need a couple for my current project. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| Anyone who pays full price for tools at Sears or Crappy Tire is a sucker. Even if it's not currently on sale, you can go up to customer service and ask them to bring up the most recent time it was on sale. |
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| Realistic |
imho use snapon... can't use anyhting better
but it doesnt matter what you use.. if it breaks, bring it back and replace it.
tools shouldnt break... then again, you get what you pay for. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
| heh, I use whatever is readily available.. I buy some stuff from Princess Auto, but it's so cheap I don't care if I loose it. I keep 90% of my automotive type tools in the truck at almost all times. I do alot of highway driving and I like to be able to fix almost anything on the side of the road. It's come in handy a couple times. I've had to re-wire 1/4 my engine bay once in a left turning lane on Mayfield road after a car fire.. while I was stripping out the burnt up stuff I sent a friend who was near buy for the 3 things I didn't have. |
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| chris f |
| SK is anther good brand, its right imbetween mac and your mastercraft and craftsman |
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| speedster9110 |
| If you work on anything where clearance is an issue, I suggest Facom.. better than Snap-on and usually slightly cheaper. |
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| anschutz_93 |
For sockets you can go cheap... craftsman, mastercraft, anything just make sure it has the lifetime warrantee. I have a snap-on socket set, the only size I've ever broken was a 10mm 1/4" drive... they are great but IMO not worth the money.
For ratchets, snap-on or MAC, personally I like snap-on better. That being said the internal gears are stripped on my 1/4" drive and I sliced my thumb pretty bad today when it skipped. |
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| THUD |
I use sears ratchets now there so far the best and ya I just walk in and say it's busted and they see my bandaid and blood all over my hand and give me a new one.
I like the maximum wrenches there not bad still a bit heavy compared to MAC but I have yet to wreck one, and for screw driver bit's I went and picked up a bin of all the common types from a liquidation place but a set of good snap-on or Mac tools screw drivers is a must if your doing a bit more than the average guy. |
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| svt28 |
| Ive spent well over 45grand on tools over the last 5-10 years, i have mostly mac and snap-on tools. The ratchets from both are complete garbage, my rep stops by once a week and he fixes a ratchet everytime he stops by. If i was going to purchase new tools again, i would be buying some husky tools from home depo. Ive already picked up a new 3/8 ratchet and havent been able to break it yet. They are very reasonably priced and are warrantied just like mac or snap-on. |
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| wildmx3 |
| most the mac and snap on stuff will breaks just as much as everything else....they do however make some good specialty tools that you cant find anywhere else... i highly reconmend mac's knuckle saver wrenches and there drill bits(lifetime warenty on the dits) and snap on does make decent ratchets with lots of teeth for the tight spots... as far as service goes with those two companies MOST of the dealers are absolutely brainwashed and think there is no other tool out there and most stuff is still overpriced...i have also had great experience with mastercraft max. and craftsmen... and sk seems to be a decent tool as well...:D |
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| Nis13 |
| master craft also offers a lifetime warrenty on almost all thier tools im sure craftsman does the same as well.. i broke my socket wrench and one of the guys in the shop said to just take it back and they will replace it... never got around to doing it though.. |
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| chris f |
quote:
Originally posted by svt28
Ive spent well over 45grand on tools over the last 5-10 years, i have mostly mac and snap-on tools. The ratchets from both are complete garbage, my rep stops by once a week and he fixes a ratchet everytime he stops by. If i was going to purchase new tools again, i would be buying some husky tools from home depo. Ive already picked up a new 3/8 ratchet and havent been able to break it yet. They are very reasonably priced and are warrantied just like mac or snap-on.
Lets see them!!!! |
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| svt28 |
| What do you want to see? Cam (krazie) and (Rileswrx) have both seen my box and tools and can vouch for them, as well as twiggs. The box alone cost me almost 15 grand. You want me to post picks of all my broken snap-on and mac ratchets?:dunno: |
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| REDX2NV |
Maybe its not the ratchets, just the people who use them make them shit.
No, you cant snipe your 3/8 ratchet with a 3 foot bar, or beat them with a hammer to get a bolt loose. No, you cant beat that bolt in place using your ratchet as hammer. Ive had the same snap on/mac ratchets for 4 years, and i have YET to break one. And yes, i use them every day out of my service truck, exposed to all elements. And yes, i will use those ratchets any day over mastercraft/crasftman, nice ratcheting mechanisms with using minmal swing to ratchet.
As for wrenches, ill leave the knuckle savers at home, mastercraft maximum, are cheap, decent, have a good feel to them and you dont feel bad when you lose one.
Sockets, shit sockets are the same as good ones, although i wouldnt cheap out on swivels if you like your teeth. |
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| svt28 |
| I dont even own anything that you could consider a snipe, i use a 3/8 impact or my 1/2 inch impact if the bolt wont budge. I dont treat my tools poorly because they are what makes me my $$$, All im saying is that with my experiences, the mac and snap-on ratchets seem to be made in the same place as the princess auto ones. My newes ratchet is one of the new stanley twist ratchets and it feels 1000 times better built then any mac or snap-on ratchet ive purchased in the last 4 years, no question about it. The best part is i didnt have to spend over $100 on a 1/4 ratchet, the stanley one was only $35 and my mac tools rep was the one who i got it from. He agrees with me that the mac ratchets are cheaply made and thats why he suggested the stanley one. To each their own i guess, im just speaking from my personal experience. |
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| deathwarden5 |
| If you want Snap-On quality but a bit cheaper, go Blue Point. Made by Snap-On, but generally cheaper. |
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| wubba_65 |
| If you're looking for a decent quality tool at a decent price, Proto tools are pretty good. That is what I have at home and they have been thus far really reliable. Warranty the same as snap-on and mac. Available at CenturyVallen and Acklands-Grainger for sure. |
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| chris f |
quote:
Originally posted by svt28
What do you want to see? Cam (krazie) and (Rileswrx) have both seen my box and tools and can vouch for them, as well as twiggs. The box alone cost me almost 15 grand. You want me to post picks of all my broken snap-on and mac ratchets?:dunno:
What did you get for 15 grand? mac, snap on? |
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| Twigs_Dee |
quote:
Originally posted by svt28
What do you want to see? Cam (krazie) and (Rileswrx) have both seen my box and tools and can vouch for them, as well as twiggs. The box alone cost me almost 15 grand. You want me to post picks of all my broken snap-on and mac ratchets?:dunno:
ATLEAST 15G's worth of tools!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God I don't know how many times crap-on and crap ratchets busted on me.... Pull, snap, try again, nothing. Deader than my dick when I look in a mirror butt ass naked. :blink: |
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| REDX2NV |
| 15g? Probably a macsimizer. |
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| ehos |
Hazet is the only way to go.
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| euro777 |
so after some research and careful consideration of everyones POV i rolled up to home depot to grab a set of the Husky tools.
100 pc mechanics set with 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" drive. $89
the task i had ahead of me was to drop the plastic under tray and then change the two accessory belts on the VQ35 (2005 350z), this would require a 10mm, 12mm and 14 mm (short socket 14mm to get in between fans and pulleys) and some extensions.
the pan- no prob
but as i go to set up the 14mm to crack the pulleys loose i realize that this husky set only has 7-9mm and then 15+ in the shallow socket and the 10-14 are only in the deep sockets (too long to use for this)
so long story short the husky tools seem like a great quality this specific set but only really have 1 socket of each size, so some are deep, some are shallow- and if you happen to need a size in deep and shallow these tools may leave you cursing. The larger set would likely save this hassle.
so after buying a brand new set of tools i was forced to use my shitty old set with worn gears that i got as a gift at some golf tournament, my poor knuckles.
but the car is ready for trip to van!! as long as my valentine1 comes in from fedex today :fingersx:
by the way, changing the belts on this engine was the easiest thing i have ever done- it took longer to remove the plastic undertray then it did to swap the belts. |
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| REDX2NV |
thats usually the case, the bargain sets are pretty crappy, albeit the mastercraft 241 piece combo set is fine for keeping in the trunk(and only $65 too)
Why didnt you use your old sockets on you new ratchets with your husky set? |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
quote:
Originally posted by REDX2NV
Why didnt you use your old sockets on you new ratchets with your husky set?
X2
Edit: I do most of my work myself, and have never had a problem with Mastercraft. |
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| euro777 |
quote:
Originally posted by REDX2NV
Why didnt you use your old sockets on you new ratchets with your husky set?
^^ basically what i did end up doing, but for one of the idler pulleys i had to use the gimp tool just because of clearance.
i just thought i would frame it the way i did so if anyone is going by our feedback they would know that they may encounter the same situation as i did and maybe not have a reserve set(s) of sockets to pick from.
either way, i would take scraped knuckles over an empty wallet |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
quote:
Originally posted by euro777
i just thought i would frame it the way i did so if anyone is going by our feedback they would know that they may encounter the same situation as i did and maybe not have a reserve set(s) of sockets to pick from.
Honestly though, what did you expect from a 100pc tool set? Regardless of quality. :dunno: |
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| GOT BOOST |
I like to use the Craftsman and Mastercraft line. Good replacement if they are under warranty.
Princess Auto for the most part has good tools. The powerbuilt or what ever it is called is pretty good. No real issues with them.
I will never purchase tools from Home Depot again, especially the Husky line.
The amount of BS I had to go through to get my 3 month old Husky Air Compressor fixed under warranty was unbelievable. 9 Months later and a million calls to Head Office, and various senior managers it was returned and still not fixed right. HD FTL!
When this one dies, I will purchase one from sears, or CT, Princess Auto. |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
I break the Power Fist line of tools pretty easy from Princess Auto, but easy exchange process, My floor jack lost the pin that lets me spin the handle to lower it.. I went in asking where I could get a pin, they said "Do you have the jack here?" me:"Yup, but I don't have the box" them:"Go get it and we'll just give you a new one."
One thing I noticed was the thinks like the dremel and the cordless drill knockoffs under the powerfist name you need to lube the bearings quite often of they seize.
My dad bought a portable ryobi table saw from Home Depot, it was less than 3mo old when something failed on it... they tried to fix in in house.. when that failed they handed it back to him in pieces and told him he was sol. |
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| svt28 |
quote:
Originally posted by chris f
What did you get for 15 grand? mac, snap on?
15 grand in the last year. I have spent well over 50 grand in the last few years. I have a snap-on box with side cabinet, it by itself was nearly 15 large |
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