| oldraven |
A resounding 'Fuck you, BMW!' was heard round the world.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/cts-v-b...or-a-sedan.html
Cadillac today reported its CTS-V sedan achieved a record 7 minutes 59.32 seconds lap time at Germany's famed Nurburgring test track. The sub-8-minute lap is the fastest ever documented for a production sedan. The new model — which goes on sale late this summer — was first unveiled earlier this year, and is now undergoing final testing.
One of the objectives the Cadillac team had when it set out to develop the CTS-V was to make it the world's fastest production sedan, according to GM. Output is estimated at around 550 horsepower, although final numbers have not been released.
GM says it will release the car's certified SAE power ratings, acceleration specifications and U.S.-market pricing in the coming weeks, as testing is finalized. We're expecting official word on the car's MSRP in less than 30 days.
GM recently indicated its new Corvette ZR1 would beat the Nissan GT-R's record lap time of 7 minutes 29 seconds, however times have not been released. |
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| SilverE90 |
| Impressive for sure. But why so much hate for BMW? :dunno: |
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| Invalid Zero |
| Awesome. CTS-V's give me a boner. I'd love to have even an old 400hp model. |
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| arabian_ryda |
| when im a old man thats a ride im gonna wana have. pick up all those senior bitches for sure in that thing. |
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| dwarfy123 |
BMW>Cadillac
When I first read the title, I read it as "Cadillac first sedan to break in 8 minutes on the Ring" That would have been more believable.
Your Caddy may go around a track fast once, but it will break down and never work again after that. You know that BMW will destroy that time when they come out with the next gen M5 in a few years. |
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| Prudz_lude |
| don't BMW's fall apart all the time. last time i heard they are pretty bad for falling apart lately. :dunno: |
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| dwarfy123 |
| If you look at JD power charts, there reliabilty is above the median, compared to all other cars. Caddy is way down at the bottom. |
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| crzyone |
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Originally posted by dwarfy123
If you look at JD power charts, there reliabilty is above the median, compared to all other cars. Caddy is way down at the bottom.
WTF are you smoking?
http://www.cartest.ca/what_are_the_most_reliable_v.htm
Looks like Cadillac is in 5th place, 175 problems per 100 vehicles.
BMW is in 11th with 225 problems per 100 vehicles.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/rating...atings-by-brand
Looks like Cadillac beats BMW again. Every site I look at has the Caddy on top.
I bought my 06 CTS instead of a 3 series because I went on MSN autos and read all the user reviews. There are a lot of quality issues with BMW. Bulletproof drivetrain but other small shit keeps breaking. The CTS owners were far happier and reported a lot less issues than the BMW owners. If you don't believe me, take a look for yourself.
I would enjoy driving a BMW more, but the CTS is my wife's daily so I wanted something reliable. So far it has been 100% reliable, and when I'm driving it I beat on it.
Edit to add, this is the latest 2007 study.
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/ne...aspx?ID=2007130
Looks like caddy is in 3rd place. BMW is 7th. They are both above average for dependability. Saying Caddy is unreliable shows you didn't actually look it up or do any research. |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
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| rp_guy |
quote:
Originally posted by dwarfy123
If you look at JD power charts, there reliabilty is above the median, compared to all other cars. Caddy is way down at the bottom.
and this is why people have a preconception that bmw drivers are dicks |
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| TyPhOOnSliPPerY |
| yeah I have to agree with that ... they are great cars but not gods gifts like they are made out to be in conversation |
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| silvia s13 |
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Originally posted by Invalid Zero
Awesome. CTS-V's give me a boner. I'd love to have even an old 400hp model.
My buddy had one for a couple years....fuck that thing could rip! Only shitty thing was that it came with run flats.....and he went through them in the first summer LOL $2400 of fun. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| I was just watching some old Top Gear episodes and came across the one where they review the original CTS. Even with the V6 they loved the car. I wonder if they'll take a new CTS-V out this season?:dunno: |
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| GQsmooth |
| I love this car:bowdown: |
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| Silence* |
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Originally posted by Prudz_lude
don't BMW's fall apart all the time. last time i heard they are pretty bad for falling apart lately. :dunno:
Lol, I just put my sub in my E36 and something fell out inside my door panel today :lol:
I gotta admit, I love the new CTS-V! |
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| ZEguy |
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Originally posted by TyPhOOnSliPPerY
LOL'D!!11 |
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| IDTrav |
10 seconds faster than the RS4!!! :mad:
Nice. Good little read, thanks Raven :beer:
Quite impressive as BMW has their test facility just up the road from the track haha. I can't seem to find what kind of time the new M3 sedan puts down... if they've even ran it yet. Doesn't deserve an M-badge if second to the Caddi :lol: |
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| supeg |
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Originally posted by IDTrav
10 seconds faster than the RS4!!! :mad:
Nice. Good little read, thanks Raven :beer:
Quite impressive as BMW has their test facility just up the road from the track haha. I can't seem to find what kind of time the new M3 sedan puts down... if they've even ran it yet. Doesn't deserve an M-badge if second to the Caddi :lol:
Slower then the caddy for sure around track and in a straight line.
The new Caddy is amazing. |
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| IDTrav |
quote:
Originally posted by supeg
Slower then the caddy for sure around track and in a straight line.
The new Caddy is amazing.
Yeah i guess hey...especially with 550ps :eek: |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by IDTrav
Yeah i guess hey...especially with 550ps :eek:
And two doors. I can't wait to retire.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/d...rticleId=126113
Oh, yeah. I don't hate BMW, I just hate that every car on earth is compared to, and usually deemed inferior, to their cars. It's getting old. |
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| SilverE90 |
| Well they do seem to strike a damn good balance in the ride handling area. They handle better than some sports cars yet still ride almost as smooth as some luxury cars. First time I drove one I was really impressed which is why I now own one. :thumbup: (even though mine is a pretty basic one :( ) |
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| dwarfy123 |
| Haha, K i got pwned. |
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| Geofux |
I know someone who has BMW's and it seems he's always spending money on fixing them ... I don't know how he does it.
The new CTS-V's are alright cars, I prefer the older ones though. |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
I have to admit, for pure performance and price, this new CTS-V is amazing... but again (sorry, old topic) I can't stand the fit and finish of american vehicles. Whether its a dodge or a cadillac... as the Jezza said "It just feels cheap". I'd never make this claim for a pure drivers car but this is supposed to be a performance LUXURY sedan. They're getting better though!
For me,
MB E63/CLS63 AMG > Audi RS6> BMW M5> Cadillac CTS-V
Price and reliability not counting though. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Gangsta
Price and reliability not counting though.
Price and reliability are always the last things on my mind when I buy a vehicle also. :lol: |
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| AudiInProgress |
quote:
Originally posted by dwarfy123
BMW>Cadillac
When I first read the title, I read it as "Cadillac first sedan to break in 8 minutes on the Ring" That would have been more believable.
Your Caddy may go around a track fast once, but it will break down and never work again after that. You know that BMW will destroy that time when they come out with the next gen M5 in a few years.
Sure, for double or triple the cost... |
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| oldraven2 |
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Gangsta
Price and reliability not counting though.
So, you're buying your car purely for its snob appeal? Not for its reliability, or its performance, or because it's a good deal. Just because it has softer plastics that are screwed closer together and a badge that says 'Yeah, I just got hosed, but it allowed me to spend a huge amount of money and display that fact.'
Hitler thought he was superior, but it just turned out that he was short and ugly, with a bad moustache, but he could get a crowd going. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
oldraven2
New Member
Registered: May 2008
My Ride: Some car
Location:
Posts: 1
WTF is "oldraven2"? :dunno: |
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| oldraven2 |
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Originally posted by Inzane
WTF is "oldraven2"? :dunno:
Hi I'm new to the sight teh name oldraven was alredy taken. looks like some goof driving a ford beat me to it. |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
quote:
Originally posted by oldraven2
So, you're buying your car purely for its snob appeal? Not for its reliability, or its performance, or because it's a good deal. Just because it has softer plastics that are screwed closer together and a badge that says 'Yeah, I just got hosed, but it allowed me to spend a huge amount of money and display that fact.'
Hitler thought he was superior, but it just turned out that he was short and ugly, with a bad moustache, but he could get a crowd going.
Did I say I preferred the above mentioned due to "snob appeal" and name sake alone? No, I didn't. This being a Sport Luxury Sedan category, I believe there should be a certain necessary refinement. I would not make these comments about a Pontiac G8 GT or a Charger SRT. (I'm actually excited about the G8, mmm... Holden)
When price doesn't matter and you can afford the gas/insurance/repairs/etc, the little things count. Thats simply what I was getting at. Fine, if you were on a budget, I'd take CTS-V simply for performance. and I'll admit, its great for what it is. Maybe its stupid to you but when I'm paying a "premium" for a car, I'd rather spend the extra and get 100% rather then 95%.
To further my point, check the "Money is no object" poll, theres a reason why the new GTR or the ZR1 isn't on the poll. There may be a limited parallel but I hope I don't have to explain the significance of it to you. |
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| Inzane |
quote:
Originally posted by oldraven2
Hi I'm new to the sight teh name oldraven was alredy taken. looks like some goof driving a ford beat me to it.
Well hello there. :lol:
If you're going to bear that name, you're going to have to act the part of alter-ego to the other oldraven. Which means you're tastes would be opposite of course. eg. You hate good beers and despise shitty GM cars.
Think you can handle that? :p |
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| sick_boy |
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Originally posted by oldraven2
Hi I'm new to the sight teh name oldraven was alredy taken. looks like some goof driving a ford beat me to it.
hmmm only 2 posts on the forum and already beaking of some of old members on the board....some one is got attitude problems my friend.. i think you should watch it or you will get kicked out:asshole: |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by Inzane
Well hello there. :lol:
If you're going to bear that name, you're going to have to act the part of alter-ego to the other oldraven. Which means you're tastes would be opposite of course. eg. You hate good beers and despise shitty GM cars.
Think you can handle that? :p
screw that!!1Chevys been making the best and most reliable cars for nearly 100 years. I say chevy because the CTS is based on a chevy platform which means its awesome!
Go Molson! I am Canadian!!1
wuz I talking to you sickboy? |
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| oldraven |
Oh, shit! Never mind. I got my posting privileges back, but now I can't edit my post to cover up my huge screw up. (I tried Inzane, I really did).
Who's the noob now?:banghead: |
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| sick_boy |
| oh so you are oldraven2 sorry my mistake, i just thought some guy created same name as you |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by sick_boy
oh so you are oldraven2 sorry my mistake, i just thought some guy created same name as you
No, my account is a little on the fritz and I made a new one to find out what's going on. Thought I'd have a little fun with it, but ended up tripping on my shoelaces a bit. :thumbup:
I was trying to be a brainless chevy die-hard who makes up shit as he goes along and thinks the Sigma platform is a 'chevy' and not a Caddy only chassis.
but i fail |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by oldraven
No, my account is a little on the fritz and I made a new one to find out what's going on. Thought I'd have a little fun with it, but ended up tripping on my shoelaces a bit. :thumbup:
I was trying to be a brainless chevy die-hard who makes up shit as he goes along and thinks the Sigma platform is a 'chevy' and not a Caddy only chassis.
but i fail
Looks like it works now. :blue: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
Looks like it works now. :blue:
Posting and PM's do. Editing posts and my profile doesn't. :confused: |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by oldraven
Posting and PM's do. Editing posts and my profile doesn't. :confused:
Stop your whining.
:stickpoke
I will look into it. :D |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
Did I just get punk'd by an imaginary alter ego?
damn! |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Gangsta
Did I just get punk'd by an imaginary alter ego?
damn!
I'd like to say you did, but I'm worse at this than Sunny.
*edit*
SOLVED!
Now get back on topic, people.
Thanks. Happy belated Moderators Day! |
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| euro_ftw |
omg . i will say it again
BMW>cadillac. :thumbup:
my car is almost 20 years old and runs better than a 2008 car.:bowdown: |
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| SilverE90 |
^ 08 Kia?
And I drive a BMW... |
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| euro_ftw |
quote:
Originally posted by SilverE90
^ 08 Kia?
And I drive a BMW...
lol propably:lol: |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by euro_ftw
omg . i will say it again
BMW>cadillac. :thumbup:
my car is almost 20 years old and runs better than a 2008 car.:bowdown:
Yes. Better in every way. They're more reliable, faster, more affordable, better to look at......... wait.
(I'm going to edit out the cursing. It's getting out of hand.) |
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| euro_ftw |
| lol. i allright i fail.:( |
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