| Couple food Q's - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| Rich_A |
Hey guys, I've been adjusting my diet a bit more recently and have a couple Q's
1. What is something I can eat before bed / later in the night that won't make me a lard-ass?
2. What sort of food should one eat before as well as after doing a cardio work-out?
Also.. anyone have any good recipes for using canned tuna? It's my new savior so I just need to make it a few different ways so I don't get sick of it.
Finally... is there really that much difference between Skim and 1% partly skimmed milk?
Thanks. |
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| the_fornicator |
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Originally posted by Rich_A
Hey guys, I've been adjusting my diet a bit more recently and have a couple Q's
1. What is something I can eat before bed / later in the night that won't make me a lard-ass?
2. What sort of food should one eat before as well as after doing a cardio work-out?
Also.. anyone have any good recipes for using canned tuna? It's my new savior so I just need to make it a few different ways so I don't get sick of it.
Finally... is there really that much difference between Skim and 1% partly skimmed milk?
Thanks.
1) Obviously things low in carbs, calories and fat. I'd suggest rice cakes with tuna or tuna with some greens, tomatoes, onions with a bit of olive oil and balsamic vinegar.
2) Personal preference though keep it as a small snack. No meals or anything otherwise your bloods gonna go straight to your stomach for digestion. Nothing if I'm not even hungry. If starving, maybe just a *bit* of carbs or protein.
Tuna:
- tuna + black pepper + salt + lemon juice + mix with rice (quick and easy)
- tuna and rice cakes
- tuna with the salad as I mentioned earlier
- tuna melts are good, but a little heavy given the cheese and bun.
- Put it on a margharita pizza (Germans seem to love it)
I have no idea about the milk question. I say the difference is minimal and comes down to a preference of texture? *shrug* |
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| XtraX |
1) Air popped popcorn is one I use. Low cal, low fat.
2) When doing cardio I'll usually have a good about a 1/2 hour before and immediatly after.
Tuna = gross. If it's from the sea it ain't for me.
Lastly
Skim milk has no fat, 1% has some fat.
Also if your really having trouble with what to eat I recommend you talk to a dietitian. I recommend http://www.bodyby24-7.com/. I know the look like juice monkey body builders but they are really nice people and they know their shit. I know 3 people who have used them in the past few years and they've really turned their lives around. |
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| Jord@n |
| Keep the tuna recipes comin! :thumbup: |
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| Alpha Gangsta |
1, I tend to just have a bit of low fat yogurt or fruit before bed. Something "light".
2. No meals before working out but maybe a snack like a granola bar or etc.
3. I'm a lazy ass. Canned tuna, salt, pepper, olive oil and whatever pasta noodles you want. I eat it cold and just mixed up together. throw in whatever else you want. |
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| AudiInProgress |
| tuna ftmfw |
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| Talon_66 |
| Casein protein before bed |
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| shortie |
its a myth that eating at certain times (like after 6pm.. whoever the hell invented that diet) will contribute to added weight... people just say that because it gives a cut off time to make them stop eating, and they will thus not eat as much total in the day, which contributes (obviously) to less cals at the end of the day total.... but I too prefer something lighter like popcorn or rice cakes, etc...
protein after cardio (of course everyone has different opinions)... in a nut shell whey (and eggwhites) is prolly the best because it hits the blood stream faster than other amino acids... (ie: less muscle is 'burned') and eat like ~40g carbs (depending on your daily macronutrient breakdown) like an hour and half later (otherwise you risk an insulin spike) and preferably a slow burning carb source (oatmeal, sweet potato, yogurt... etc) to moderate insulin release... (people will disagree and bitch and whine and say I am wrong, which is fine, everyone has their own 'thing' for post-w/o.. whatever)
tuna -- tuna cakes - yum.. mix with some spice and eggwhite, squeeze out excess liquid, put in fry pan and pan fry... add some nofat mayo or whatever on the side. otherwise tuna is pretty nasty. could put it on a salad maybe...
"MILK ees fo' babies" - to quote Arnold.. lol kidding, there is fat in 1%... nothing really huge though... like 2.4g fat per cup vs. 0.6g fat per cup... personally I just prefer skim because I grew up on it :thumbup: milk products are good for you, there have been some studies that show the benefits. I say if all you like is 1% then go for it, no use freaking out over something so small |
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| SilverNeonRacer |
I grew up on Homo milk, the wife liked 2% so I switched.. then she liked 1% and then I switched... I used 2% for cooking though and 1% for drinking annd cereal.
Tuna.
Tuna buns..
Tuna, real cheddar cheese(I use medium and grate it finely), Miricle whip(I use reg, you can use low fat or whatever you want), and a shot of relish(I use regular Green).
How much of each is up to you.. I use 4 cans tuna, 1/2lbs cheese, 2tbl spoons Miricle whip, a good shot of the relish, mix it all up put it on a bun or some sort.. you can eat it like that or wrap it in foil bake at 350 for 20min. You can replace the relish for diced onions as well. - i get about 10-12 buns I use onions buns, you know, bigger than a dinner roll, but smaller than a keiser. |
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| ehrgeiz |
1. Veggies, nobody gets enough. Bell Peppers, Spinach, Cauliflower, Broccoli, Tomatoes, Carrots, Cucumber ect.
2. Depending on your workout intensity and body weight, a mixture of whey protein usually about 25 grams, 1 teaspoon creatine and 35ish grams of powdered Gatorade, add water and shake. |
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| P_D |
Tuna Stuffed Peppers
Ingredients:
2 cans of flavoured tuna( i like sundried tomato
table spoon of salt and pepper
3 cloves of garlic chopped
handful of chopped of spinach
3 or 4 green onions
3 medium to large bell peppers cut in half length wise.
Directions:
Wash everything in cold water first thing. Mix all the ingredients together in a bowl and stuff the pepper with the tuna mix. Place the peppers in the oven at 375 and bake till the tuna browns. the skin on the peppers might blister and turn black but dont worry cuz you wont be eating the skin. after the tuna browns place some cheese(i like havarti) let it melt. once the cheese has melted pull them out and let for 10 min or so cuz they will be bloody hot. |
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| Rich_A |
effin A. I had a huge dinner 2 hours before workout today and set a new personal best for cardio. I'm not even hungry at all right now. Just got done at the gym 30 minutes ago.
burnt over 600 calories just running and also did some upper body / bench.
I still feel like I have energy to spare |
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| the_fornicator |
I could never workout 2 hours after a huge meal. not enough time for me, imo.
oh yeah, the bavarians love their mozzerella. good dish that I learned from them.
- a tomato or two diced into thicker cubes
- whole mozzerella (in its water) also diced in thick cubes
- fresh basil
- olive oil
- balsamic vinegar
- tuna (just thought about adding this)
- salt + pepper
mash all that shit into a bowl and it's fucking delicious. |
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| ZEguy |
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Originally posted by the_fornicator
I could never workout 2 hours after a huge meal. not enough time for me, imo.
oh yeah, the bavarians love their mozzerella. good dish that I learned from them.
- a tomato or two diced into thicker cubes
- whole mozzerella (in its water) also diced in thick cubes
- fresh basil
- olive oil
- balsamic vinegar
- tuna (just thought about adding this)
- salt + pepper
mash all that shit into a bowl and it's fucking delicious.
Does sound fucking delicious, will try. :thumbup: |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
This thread gets a :thumbup:
Anything I was going to say has been said, and I got some Tuna ideas out of it. |
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| Flex |
A good thing to eat before bed is cottage cheese. Its a real easy digestable protein so its ko to eat before bed. If you want to add some flavor that tastes really good add some pineaple.
Depends on when you do your cardio. If you want to set your metabolism for the day do your cardio first thing in the morning before you eat. Then eat your normal breakfast afterwards. This will set your metabolism higher for the day.
For tuna, a really goo thing to do is fry it. frying it takes the fishy taste out of it. You can add egg, green onion, mushrooms or what ever you like. Also a like franks hot sauce makes it good to.
For milk the only difference is the fat content, skim is less of course. If you read the label skim also has a higher protien content. |
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| Flex |
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Originally posted by shortie
[B]its a myth that eating at certain times (like after 6pm.. whoever the hell invented that diet) will contribute to added weight... people just say that because it gives a cut off time to make them stop eating, and they will thus not eat as much total in the day, which contributes (obviously) to less cals at the end of the day total
The idea behind not eating after 6 (which I would feel is to early I would say 8 pm) is most people are not active during this period before bed. So if you are eating that late, anything you are eating isn't getting burnt off and is just stored....hence the fat gain. Also when your stomach is full and working on digesting you don't sleep as well either. |
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| shortie |
you burn calories as you sleep.. breath.. sit on your ass and watch tv... and those calories will be burnt the next day anyways... calories don't just magically turn to fat over night and 'store' like that...
I agree with having a quick digestable protein though, prolly best. easily absorbed... fast, not too heavy feeling.
I know body builders leaner than you can imagine who eat up to and including bed time, infact some get up during the night to keep eating on a timely fashion... it really doesnt matter when you eat so much as what you eat in the end.
its a myth not to eat after like 6 or 8 - it was made up by some jenny craig-type to stop over-eaters from eating extra calories they dont need, as most overeaters have habits of binging at night. tell them not to eat past 6, and they will enevitably eat less calories every day than they would have with the meals they eat after 6... |
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| Flex |
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Originally posted by shortie
you burn calories as you sleep.. breath.. sit on your ass and watch tv... and those calories will be burnt the next day anyways... calories don't just magically turn to fat over night and 'store' like that...
I agree with having a quick digestable protein though, prolly best. easily absorbed... fast, not too heavy feeling.
I know body builders leaner than you can imagine who eat up to and including bed time, infact some get up during the night to keep eating on a timely fashion... it really doesnt matter when you eat so much as what you eat in the end.
its a myth not to eat after like 6 or 8 - it was made up by some jenny craig-type to stop over-eaters from eating extra calories they dont need, as most overeaters have habits of binging at night. tell them not to eat past 6, and they will enevitably eat less calories every day than they would have with the meals they eat after 6...
You cant use bodybuilders as an example for the average person. Everything they do is extreme and not relavent to the real world.
So eat a big meal everynight before bed and tell me after a while you dont start putting on weight. And the calories you burn from sleeping and breathing are so minimal that they wouldn't even count to the average person and what they eat. And if you could burn suffient calories sitting on your ass on the couch why are there fat people then?? I know its what they eat, but this is what we are talking about, the average person and their eating habits. |
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| shortie |
sigh.. i didnt say it was sufficient energy to burn all your calories or anything.. but if all you ate was your minimum required cals a day and all you did was sit and do nothing all day, then you would technically gain no weight.
whats the difference between eating before sleeping and eating while sitting at a desk all day?
basically it is simple mathematics - you burn more than you eat, you lose mass... there are of course many factors in between there. but I would argue hands down if you took the same person and had them eat the same amount of calories and macronutrient breakdown a day 1) before 8pm ... and 2) any time through out the day and right before bed... the results would be identical with the same starting weight, and what not.
eating a huge meal before bed though sucks to digest... i agree, easier to sleep with less to digest. I am just saying that it doesnt matter when you eat, but what - cals burned from activities and just living plus cals you take in need to come out to a deficit. (other than it is also helpful to eat little meals through the day to help metabolism and insulin spikes, etc... and keeps you less hungry and likely to binge out at meals)
in the end, its personal preference -whatever makes you happier really. |
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| the_fornicator |
sounds like you just read a coles notes about dieting on the internet, caught certain tid bits that appealed to you and regurgitated it.
I'm not even going to bother correcting or questioning any of that. just be a waste of time. |
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| shortie |
it is more that I am just trying to provide a simplistic coles notes version as I am not in the mood to write an entire novel on the subject... nor provide scientific studies and a frickin thesis on top of it.
who the fuck cares anyways, everyone believes different things will work, so just do what you think is right and be happy. I really don't care...
I hate the $#@ing health/nutrition debate. like poking yourself in the eye over and over |
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| the_fornicator |
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Originally posted by shortie
just do what you think is right and be happy
fair enough.
I just get annoyed when people spew out theories and claim them as facts. e.g.
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Originally posted by shortie
I am just saying that it doesnt matter when you eat
If you don't know, quit providing incorrect information. It misleads people. |
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| the_fornicator |
regardless, back on topic.
list a great chicken dish that I usually make and eat with rice and canned corn. Not necessarily the most healthy dish but nowhere near unhealthy.
- preheat oven to 160°C (I dunno what that is in °F)
- take chicken thighs (doesn't matter how many -I usually cook 3 so I'll eat 1.5 for supper and have 1.5 for lunch... with skin) and rinse under cold water. Then pat dry with paper towel.
- throw em all in a ceramic baking thing (with at least 1.5" sides) skin side up
- drizzle some light soy sauce over the chicken
- now sprinkle with a little bit of the following:
- lawrey's seasoning salt
- granulated garlic powder (not to be confused with garlic salt)
- black pepper
- white pepper
- basil
- parsley
- oregano
- dried chili flakes (LOTS)
- sprinkle a *bit* of granulated sugar on top
- drizzle with some canola oil and a bit more soy sauce and bake for 40 minutes (tops).
pop on some Entourage and drink a beer. By the time that's done, chicken is ready.
Serve with fresh white rice and corn (I dunno, I dig creamed corn though not too many people seem to like that stuff)
Simple, painless to prepare and super tasty. |
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